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Angelina Jolie and her double mastectomy
May 18 2013
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RHP User
13 years ago
I seriously do not think Angelina needs to raise her public profile. I commend her as it would not be any choice! It would not be an easy decision to make. People do not have major surgery just for the hell of it. I really do not think Angelina is that shallow. I know it was difficult for my mother though she no longer has any traces of cancer. Mun had hers 20 years ago. Yes I am in a high risk category and I have a choice like Angelina to make as well if I so choose. Could and will i go through with it - I really do not know. As I said it is a big decision and I really do not want fake tits. All I can do for now is keep my health in check.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That it was a courageous decision by Miss Jolie, and we commend her for it and wish her well. From our own selfish perspective, we are in tears! Lets be honest, they were one stupendous pair of boobies, and they won't be gracing the screen again.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Some people are arses. She has had an operation, which she needed to have. I'm sure having it was a huge decision for her.She has come out publicly I am sure to heighten awareness and perhaps help women who are thinking of having it done...to be brave...or to make women think about their health and not bury their heads under the sandShe should be commended
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RHP User
13 years ago
Why don't we all just remove parts of our body that MIGHT get cancer....fuck me we'd have nothing left... Simple fact is life's a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate... If we concentrated more on enjoying it while its here and less time giving ourselves stomach ulcers worrying about frivolous shit like this we'd all be a happy species.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
She hardly needs to raise her public profile. She's a well known humanitarian and ambassador. She's faced a REALLY tough decision and could keep it private but she hasn't, I applaud her. Yes she's using her profile, but to educate others and hopefully save lives. Like when Kyle Minogue was diagnosed with breast cancer, the number of women getting checked increased dramatically.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I applaud her, he has made the decision based on sound medical knowledge and information, and the realisation that she was at a very high risk. She wants to be around to see her children grow up, and if the tests are there, the genetic information is there, why the hell wouldnt you??? I have a daughter with a genetic disability. testing is being worked on as we speak, so when shes old enough to start a family she can make an informed decision.
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Cheekyarses
13 years ago
Brave.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot' Why don't we all just remove parts of our body that MIGHT get cancer....fuck me we'd have nothing left... Simple fact is life's a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate... If we concentrated more on enjoying it while its here and less time giving ourselves stomach ulcers worrying about frivolous shit like this we'd all be a happy species.- Posted from rhpmobile sorry but thats a really irresponsible comment to make!!! she had a mother die at a young age from cancer, she was proven to have a very high (86%)risk for memory chance of developing it, and she is mother to 6 children!!!! she could die in the next decade and leave them to grow up motherless, or she could remove her breasts, reduce her risks by a whopping 80%, raise her children, live to see her grandchildren, and die of natural causes. She can have some cosmetic surgery if she wants to, so its really not a biggy! How dare you describe the topic of breast cancer as "frivolous shit" !!!!!!!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot' Why don't we all just remove parts of our body that MIGHT get cancer....fuck me we'd have nothing left... Simple fact is life's a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate... If we concentrated more on enjoying it while its here and less time giving ourselves stomach ulcers worrying about frivolous shit like this we'd all be a happy species.- Posted from rhpmobile What the fuck!!!!!! I have a high risk of getting breast cancer,THAT is a medical FACT! Why the FUCK would you call it a frivolous concern!! Do you have children??? Do you have the love of your life in your life? Do you not VALUE life!!!!!!Absolute discussed in your comment!! Grrrr!
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have children..... Ok let me paint the picture for you all. Firstly I don't call breast cancer frivolous shit. But what I do call frivolous shit is the extreme measures that people go based on RISK. Ok so lets assume she increases her chances of not contracting breast cancer..... The day after she walks out in front of a bus and dies....a drunk driver runs into her.... All very pertinent risks to death but I see we don't stop driving or walking down the street. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
To say she's brave is just delusional.... The brave women are the single women battling breast cancer right now....with noone that visits them....the women that will leave their kids orphaned but still fight on.....ALONE. That's brave, and very courageous. To have a double mastectomy without breast cancer is just scared. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot' Why don't we all just remove parts of our body that MIGHT get cancer....fuck me we'd have nothing left... Simple fact is life's a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate... If we concentrated more on enjoying it while its here and less time giving ourselves stomach ulcers worrying about frivolous shit like this we'd all be a happy species.- Posted from rhpmobile Sirlurk, this is an extremely ignorant comment to make. Do you understand about genetic testing for cancer risks, and why that is done? Jolie had genetic testing because of a family history, and that indicated a very high risk - a lot higher than the 'usual' risk - of her developing breast cancer. It's not like she just thought out of the blue one day, "Oh I think I'll just get these boobs taken off in case I get cancer." That is the reason for genetic testing in cases like this, so that the person who is at a much higher risk can decide if they want to take actions to lessen that risk. It is not something that is done frivolously for people who have the normal risks everyone has of getting certain cancers.Both of my mother's sisters died of ovarian cancer, so her latest sister to pass had genetic testing done before she died to see whether she carried the gene that increases susceptibility. If she had tested positive then all of her genetically close female relatives would need to have been tested as well - her daughters, my mother, and probably me as well. And let me tell you, if I found out I was positive for that gene, I would have my ovaries removed in a heartbeat if it meant I significantly decreased my chance of dying a particularly horrible death from one of the nastiest cancers there is. You need to think a little bit more, and perhaps do a bit of research, before posting ill-informed comments like this sirlurkalot.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot' To say she's brave is just delusional.... The brave women are the single women battling breast cancer right now....with noone that visits them....the women that will leave their kids orphaned but still fight on.....ALONE. That's brave, and very courageous. To have a double mastectomy without breast cancer is just scared. - Posted from rhpmobile You have got to the kidding. This is the most warped view I think I have ever heard. So women who have cancer but aren't alone aren't brave? Nobody is brave unless they are sick and don't have anyone to support them? What the hell man?? Let me tell you, if those single women battling breast cancer that you are talking about had had some way of greatly decreasing their chances of getting it, then I'd bet in almost all cases that they would have done it. Most people don't really care about being martyrs and have people admiring them for their braveness when they're fighting a possibly terminal illness. They'd much rather have not got the illness in the first place.I guess you're going to stop looking both ways before you cross the street? Stop wearing a seatbelt when you're driving your truck? There are a hundred things that you do every day basically to stop yourself from dying, so by your reasoning you shouldn't be doing any of them, because that makes you a coward and scared. So go on, stop doing them, and I'll be interested to see how many people say you were brave.
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RHP User
13 years ago
There is No comparison! You are comparing two entirely different scenarios. Sure I could be taken by a shark while diving, or my parachute may not open after my free fall, HOWEVER I assure you I have eliminated all possible risks of these happening with in my own capabilities! Like, I could be hit by a bus and heaven forbid I have looked both ways and made a sensible choice which I THOUGHT, was safe to cross the bloody road. The act of a drunk driver does not even compare in the slightest. We make a choice to stay out of the way of a drunk driver, though they have made a choice to drink then drive. Out of MY control completely. If you have been told the likely hood of YOU developing prostate cancer was at 85% and you had a choice to have you prostate removed to eliminate all possibility of developing the death sentence disease ...WOULD YOU! You have kids you say so would you not want to be around for them longer than have them watch you die an agonising slow death. Let's be real here. I think not. As for the brave comment, sure they are brave however, there is no need to even compare as I am sure if the single mother had a choice also to have a double mastectomy she would! Though she may not either although she would of been given that choice by the medics, JUST like a friend who is going through with it now. O do not want die and I certainly do not want to develop breast cancer though like Angelina I have a 85% chance of doing so! I have a choice to eliminate this to 0% just like her. How is that brave you ask....If you don't understand them you probably never will. Many woman have their ovaries out as they have an increased of ovarian cancer! I had a hysterectomy as I had an increased risk of contracting cervical cancer. The increase was caused by a slight change in my cell structure though not life threatening so I made a choice to eliminate the chances to it to 0%... and by fuck I am glad I did!!!! You know what though, it was a difficult decision!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Very brave , shows other women that no one is above this type of disease.Anything that highlights to other women to get checked out is a great idea.Onya Angie and wish you the best of luck girlfriend sirlurkalot its time for your enema !
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RHP User
13 years ago
Of course there is risk in every day living, BUT there are professionals who work to assess those risks and limit them for you-ie pedestrian crossings were built years ago so people stopped being hit by cars/trams/horses WHATEVER.....OH&S was created to stop fatal accidents from occurring in the work place,......Immunisation was brought in to stop young children from dying unnecessarily, water purifying systems were introduced to suburban housing decades ago to stop disease...SHALL I GO ON?????? SO if your father had testicular cancer, and died a horrible death at only 40, and here you were at that age, and the DR said you have a 90% chance of developing that in the next few years, possibly not living to see your 1 child grow up, leaving them struggling emotionally, financially etc....and that DR said you could lesson your chance by 50% removing 1 testical now, 90% with 2-you wouldnt do it??? If you answer NO you are a selfish bastard!!!!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
She has a very high risk of contracting Cancer, due to her families historyShe can reduce the risk substantially by having a mastectomy No brainerand an incredibly ignorant responseScared? No she is living in the real world....looking at the reality and reducing her risk to dying of the same thing as she has a gene mutationSo women like myself, who get checked on regularly.. because my mum had cancer and four of her aunties died quite young from it are delusional? No, I'm smart and looking out for my interests Quoting 'sirlurkalot' To say she's brave is just delusional.... The brave women are the single women battling breast cancer right now....with noone that visits them....the women that will leave their kids orphaned but still fight on.....ALONE. That's brave, and very courageous. To have a double mastectomy without breast cancer is just scared. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'inspirit' There is No comparison! You are comparing two entirely different scenarios. Sure I could be taken by a shark while diving, or my parachute may not open after my free fall, HOWEVER I assure you I have eliminated all possible risks of these happening with in my own capabilities! Like, I could be hit by a bus and heaven forbid I have looked both ways and made a sensible choice which I THOUGHT, was safe to cross the bloody road. The act of a drunk driver does not even compare in the slightest. We make a choice to stay out of the way of a drunk driver, though they have made a choice to drink then drive. Out of MY control completely. If you have been told the likely hood of YOU developing prostate cancer was at 85% and you had a choice to have you prostate removed to eliminate all possibility of developing the death sentence disease ...WOULD YOU! You have kids you say so would you not want to be around for them longer than have them watch you die an agonising slow death. Let's be real here. I think not. As for the brave comment, sure they are brave however, there is no need to even compare as I am sure if the single mother had a choice also to have a double mastectomy she would! Though she may not either although she would of been given that choice by the medics, JUST like a friend who is going through with it now. O do not want die and I certainly do not want to develop breast cancer though like Angelina I have a 85% chance of doing so! I have a choice to eliminate this to 0% just like her. How is that brave you ask....If you don't understand them you probably never will. Many woman have their ovaries out as they have an increased of ovarian cancer! I had a hysterectomy as I had an increased risk of contracting cervical cancer. The increase was caused by a slight change in my cell structure though not life threatening so I made a choice to eliminate the chances to it to 0%... and by fuck I am glad I did!!!! You know what though, it was a difficult decision! All power to you and your smart response
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RHP User
13 years ago
Irresponsible, indeed. If the doctor told you you had an 87% of getting testicular cancer because you have the cancer gene, but a 5% chance after you had them both removed (in the remaining tissues), would you? You have kids, would you take the risk and just wait it out or would you be pro-active about it? This is not being scared, this is Angelina making a very brave choice to give her children the best chance of growing up with a mother. I think it's a no-brainer, and kudos to her for going public.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Is that it's okay to just cut stuff off given that you have a heightened CHANCE of developing cancer??? I couldn't see myself rushing in to hospital to have my lymph glands removed because my father has just had treatment for non-hodgkins lymphoma. He had a tumour the size of an apple in his groin, it was littered all around his heart, in his bone marrow even. His father died of a cancer related illness when my father was 30. Should I be that paranoid about preventing my own death by having parts of essentially my immune defence removed??? I think not, as I have lived my life every day, and I'm grateful for every day that I wake up. I'd be missing out on life itself should I choose to consume myself with the same level of extreme paranoia. Most cancer patients don't realise that they have cancer. For some, it will be too late by the time a diagnosis is made. This lady is a role model for young women all around the world. I pity the poor girls that follow her footsteps that take prevention to this level of extremity, based on a risk. Would I get my testicles cut out for an 86% chance?? Or my prostate?? Nope. The remaining scar tissue ALSO has a chance to mutate to malignancy. Being PROACTIVE doesn't surely mean I need to have parts of my body removed. Early detection systems, are and always be my first choice, not elective surgery.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot' I have children..... Ok let me paint the picture for you all. Firstly I don't call breast cancer frivolous shit. But what I do call frivolous shit is the extreme measures that people go based on RISK. Ok so lets assume she increases her chances of not contracting breast cancer..... The day after she walks out in front of a bus and dies....a drunk driver runs into her.... All very pertinent risks to death but I see we don't stop driving or walking down the street. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
SirLurk I agree with all the ladies. Your comment makes absolutely no sense at all.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Is that I'm against genetic testing, that I'm against awareness of breast cancer. I'm not. I understand fully, that Mrs Jolie was tested for a genetic protein that is apparent in a vast majority if not ALL people who have contracted breast cancer. But this issue has nothing to do with awareness from my view. What message does it then forward on to people who look upon this woman as a role model?? It says to me, that we all need to rush in to our surgeons to have this test, and IF that test reveals we have a heightened risk then, we need to remove those body parts that are potentially affected. That to me makes no sense at all.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think it was her choice and should be respected. Nuff said. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Seriously? I'm really disappointed you feel this way Of course you are entitled to your own opinion and we have all read it along with your subsequent posts....I just hope you have read and taken on board what these ladies have written in response.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Angelina published one of her first books just after 2001. She was sent death threats relentlesly. If you haven't read one of her books, I doubt where you could understand why she revealed what she did. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think it was a huge decision as an actress to have your breasts removed!! I hope other woman who were very self conscious about doing it now have the strength to go through with it as someone as famous and sexy as her can do it then so can we!! If she wanted to big note she would of sold her story to a magazine from the start and had the whole thing published but she didn't she kept it personal and only went public once it was over to raise awareness!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
"To have a double mastectomy without breast cancer is just scared" How dare you. Ignorant & plain dumb. Shame on you SLAL. Caveman mentality at its most pathetic. - Posted from rhpmobile
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sweetgem
13 years ago
Sirlurkalot, reading your comments is bringing tears rolling down my face!!! Let me tell you a real life experience of mine! In my 20s, I used to not think so much about my health, because I was young and careless, so I only had a pap test done every 3-4 years, and guess what, 3 years ago, I was suddenly diagnosed with a high risk of developing cervical cancer!!! How the hell did I get that??? No clue! Genetic perhaps, but nobody, includes my Gynecologist, was 100% sure, but one thing is for sure is that there has been cancer history in my family!!! And the diagnose was a life threatening diagnose!!! For my type of illness, there is no medication and/or treatment that can cure it except for operation! So, I was left with a choice of not having the operation and allow the abnormal cells to continue to develop into cancer cells in the next few years (even if I kept myself in check with follow up check every 6 months), or have the operation and reduce the chance to 0%. It was a tough decision because the side effects of having such operation is huge to an extend where they will affect my future fertility (and I won't go into too much details about it, because I have no obligation to share openly on the Forums). So I chose to leave the operation out for a while and went on to taking herbal medicines hoping to cure the problem from drinking them (stupid move I must say), which did slow down the abnormal cells from developing fast, but it didn't cure it! The herbal medicines costed me an arm and a leg to continue, so I had to stop taking them. Guess what, the abnormal cell rapidly grew after I stopped taking the herbal medicines and my Gynecologist had to force me to face my problem and the reality! Everyone including my boss had told me that I was stupid not to have the operation in the first place! So I had to agree with everyone who really love and care for me and had the operation. Now I am feeling healthy as and can live a normal life again, including sexual life! Please note that while I was diagnosed with the high risk of getting cancer, I did not stop doing what I was doing before the diagnose, nor did I sit on my arse doing nothing but feeling sorry for myself or miss a day of enjoying breathing the fresh air, etc. etc. but the thought that I might have to fight with cancer soon, or even lost my life, scared the hell out of me!!! Therefore, I picked up the courage to face the reality and accepted that I will have serious issues with my fertility in future, and signed the papers to go into the operation theatre!!! Now I am glad that I made the right decision to have the operation, otherwise my family would have suffered with me or even lost me forever; my friends would have to attend my funeral in the near future; and there would be no sweetgem posting funny, stupid and serious threads on RHP IF I did not have that operation 2 years ago!!! ------------------------------------- Back to OP's thread, I commend Angelina Jolie's courage and decision! It's ignorant and cruel for anyone to think or say Angelina uses her health problem to uplift her public profile! Like who doesn't know Angelina Jolie seriously?!?!?! And is her star status falling currently that she would need to replace a pair of real boobs with artificial boobs just simply to uplift her profile?!?!?! Pig brain thinking I must say!!! I think those who have said all the negative things about Jolie's decision to speak and share about her problems are those who have no life, cold blooded, heartless and are indeed jealous of her courage!!! Grow up those ignorant idiots! Speak coldly again when you are diagnosed with a life threatening illness or disease!!!- Posted from rhpmobile
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platinumblonde69
13 years ago
I have followed this post with interest because I cannot believe how the male brain thinks sometimes. I have friends who have lost their life to breast cancer, who have left young children, their loving husbands, and to think someone is criticised for making a decision to heighten the awareness of such a topic and to want to spend every possible day with her family just seems weird. Im sure lots of women didnt know that such as test was available and if the guys listened to the news, it is only suggested for those who are very high risk, not for someone who is paranoid with no history of breast or ovarian cancer in their family. At a cost of approximately $3000 it is not accessible to everyone. One of my friends has been tested since she was 20 years old due to the high risk factor in her family. She has two gorgeous babies under 3 and is engaged to be married at age 34 and she will be speaking to her Dr about this test to see what her chances are of contracting it. Another one of my friends has just had the double mastectomy and hysterectomy done due to having this test done. She has no children but after finding a lump in her breast and being so close to loosing her life she decided to eliminate any risks. She wishes she had of known about her high risk 10 years ago (her mother died of ovarian cancer and she was unaware the two were related). As for Sirlurkalot suggesting we could be hit by a train or bus tomorrow, yes that is true. But if we had a crystal ball and knew WHAT TRAIN or WHAT BUS we would avoid it at all costs.For me personally, I know what I would do if faced with such a decision. Plat
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RHP User
13 years ago
Okay you feel strongly that we shouldn't be getting tested as this may lead to people removing all sorts of body parts based on a percentage or on something that may or may not happen. In a way I understand where you are coming from. Although Angelina's mother died from breast cancer & once you have had the test and doctors tell you you have 87% chance of the same thing happening to you. As a mother you almost have no choice. You don't need your boobs to live and they can reconstruct your boobs anyway so they probably look better than before! I am not belittling her decision I am know it would have been a traumatic one as boobs are linked to a women's femininity. To me, if you are a parent and are given those odds there is nothing else you can do. In fact I would say it would be irresponsible of you not to. SirLurk. Why would you risk it?
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RHP User
13 years ago
And yes in a lot of ways I wouldn't want to know in advance but that is the way of the future. DNA testing which will be able to "predict" your future. And if they say you have 80% of heart disease if you hit a certain weight for an example, then wouldn't you take particular care of your weight and fitness in order to decrease those odds if you can? Okay, removing body parts is extreme I grant you that but still, 87% chance is just too high a gamble for me when you know you can do something about it. I was watching an interesting Richard Dawkins documentary a while ago and he had a DNA test and one of the things they told him was that if he had taken up smoking, which luckily he hadn't, he would have an almost 100% chance of brain cancer I think it was. Going from memory here but it was really interesting. SirLurk, don't take everyone's comments about your "insensitivity" to heart. I don't think you made it clear where you where coming from in your original comment and this is an emotional subject for lots of people which is why you received some very passionate responses. xx
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RHP User
13 years ago
I've read all of the comments. Had a big think too and needed to buy more nurofen... But what I see in the responses to my views is this. Stupid, ignorant, selfish, caveman mentality....which are well and good if I were wanting vitriolic diatribe. But the message is clear. Mitigation of risk is clearly the point that you're all making, AND without this radical preventative surgery, she WILL not MIGHT be dead before her children are all grown up. Also based upon that same thought process, given my family history of cancer on both sides of my family, I WILL be dead before my kids are all grown up if I don't have my lymph glands removed, my bone marrow(to prevent my heightened risk of leukaemia) extracted, and I would be selfish, ignorant, stupid and just plain evil if I didn't. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
SirLurk is getting a hammering but I think we all misunderstood where he is coming from. Now agree or disagree he feels strongly that getting these sorts of test and chopping off body parts is wrong. At what point do you start to risk it? 50% 40% should all women just have a mastectomy and reconstruction as a matter of course? I think this is where he is coming from.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well I have had a lump removed which has put me in a higher risk category. Should I go have the test too? When I was a smoker this also put me in a higher risk category... But hopefully now that I have stopped this risk will reduce. I think I would be too scared to have this test although reading some comments I probably should. 😢
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RHP User
13 years ago
I don't have an issue with testing, where have I ever said in my posts that I have??? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' SirLurk, don't take everyone's comments about your "insensitivity" to heart. I don't think you made it clear where you where coming from in your original comment and this is an emotional subject for lots of people which is why you received some very passionate responses. xx Sorry, I still think that he showed a great deal of insensitivity and ignorance. I read his further posts about where he is coming from, and it didn't make any difference to my opinion.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' SirLurk is getting a hammering but I think we all misunderstood where he is coming from. Now agree or disagree he feels strongly that getting these sorts of test and chopping off body parts is wrong. At what point do you start to risk it? 50% 40% should all women just have a mastectomy and reconstruction as a matter of course? I think this is where he is coming from. can have his opinion on not having those things done, and choose himself not to have them done, but making negative comments like he has about other people who do choose to have them done and calling them "scared" and bad role models etc. is way out of line. Basically he has no right to impose his views on and negatively judge other people who do choose that path.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I disagree with your comment that I have misread SLAL post incorrectly. I do not think he is an insensitive forumite though I do think his judgement is ill informed and he is jumping to ridiculous conclusions. As Plats say's it is suggested to those who are very high risk AND it not a decision made lightly.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'SirLurk is getting a hammering but I think we all misunderstood where he is coming from. Now agree or disagree he feels strongly that getting these sorts of test and chopping off body parts is wrong. At what point do you start to risk it? 50% 40% should all women just have a mastectomy and reconstruction as a matter of course? I think this is where he is coming from. Meeks, regardless of where he is coming from, he is entitled to his opinion and I'm entitled to be pissed off about it. I made my thoughts clear both here and in a private message. Shit stirring or not Lurk, I will repeat I found your comments irrisponsible and offensive. That's my opinion and I won't apologise for it, as I'm sure you won't for yours. That does not mean my views of you as a person have changed. Had all responses before mine been visible when I posted, I may have have stuck to my email to you. But it is what it is. I do respect that you stood your ground though and did not flip-flop.
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RHP User
13 years ago
For the record, I respect your opinion and I do enjoy a good debate. However I do not have to agree! If you feel you are being labeled as insensitive and so on then why comment on the forums? This is where my head gets done in on the forums..................why do people take things personally when they are just opinions. It does mean I think any less of you.
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RHP User
13 years ago
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RHP User
13 years ago
I respect an opinion based on decent facts, but suggesting that we are all going to chop body parts off is being silly. Sir's comments are inappropriate
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is an emotional topic and I too find his view hard to understand with regards to Angelina's case. But he has a valid point ladies. Where do you draw the line? I do feel there is a lot of shouting at SirLurk. I too violently disagreed with his comment, although I don't think it was offensive or that he was intentionally being offensive. He in fact feels just as strongly as we all do. Sorry SirLurk... I am speaking for you which I probably shouldn't and I know how strongly he feels about it because I have already had a fight with him about it offline!! With this one we will have to agree to disagree I think.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Although granted saying its is frivolous is an odd comment. Nothing about this topic is frivolous. Kisses to all peeps.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Wasn't suggesting anyone should change their opinion or apologize for their opinion. Of course not. Just trying to point out that SirLurk's opinion is valid too and I did see some people say he was insensitive, etc but that was my interpretation. Everyone is making very good points and there is merit to both sides of the argument.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I was diagnosed with breast cancer 8 1/2 years ago. I was 42. I had accidentally fallen pregnant and had my last child at 40 with the other two being 8 & 11 years older. I had no family history ..... It has to start somewhere!! One of the things many people do not realise is that breast cancer does not go into remission. So to date I am 8.5 years cancer free. I live with the fear everyday that breast cancer may come back and maybe in another part of my body, ie lungs, brain, bones, liver - particular favorites of breast cancer to mestastasise (or secondary cancer). I have big beautiful breasts at 50 and I thank God everyday that I have them!! I had surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation therapy!! It wasn't a great time for my young family or partner. This outline is to let u know that I have a little idea on the subject. In my case having my breast removed or having the tumor removed with follow up treatment and my survival rate was the same. Remember my baby had just turned two. I chose to have the lump removed, as if the cancer ever comes back it will most likely come back In breast tissue. If you have no breast tissue it can come back on the chest wall. Much harder to treat. I am involved in Breast Cancer circles to date, i have seen girls lose their lives, lose one breast, lose two breasts because the cancer has come back In the other side. I have seen girls have elect to have double mastectomies after cancer has returned after lumpectomies, I am also watching my friends fighting cancer in their bones, brains, lungs and livers as secondaries to breast cancer!! I have a daughter. I ask her to be vigilant and check her breasts often for any changes - my tumor didnt show in a Mammogram, I found it having a shower as I brushed my hand along my breast. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
As my posts aren't Facebook status'. They are however my view, if someone takes issue with it, all good, it's their entitlement. - Posted from rhpmobile
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13 years ago
Would I advise my daughter to have a dbl mastectomy, because she has an increased risk of having BC?? Hell no - that would be her decision. Would I have had both breasts removed if I knew what was ahead of me?? Probably not but was well and truly prepared to lose one!! Angelina Jolie is a very brave woman for standing up in front of the world and telling us, and having the critics go wild. For removing her breasts not braver than any other woman I know. Scared?? Probably!! Going under the knife for any surgery Is scary!! Angelina made a decision that was best for her and her family based on the up to date information at hand. Her Choice!!! I for one applaud you Angelina, and bless you for a speedy recovery!! BTW. I have seen some amazing reconstructions up close and personal!!! If it ever visits my boobs again I'm getting me some of those!!! Sorry for the lengthy post - obviously a subject close to my chest!!! Gypsy😍 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I knew that.
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RHP User
13 years ago
What was that? Oh it's the sound of crickets over at sirlurk's profile. Female attention diminishing.....
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is what it is I no longer post on the forums anymore but this subject cannot be, but close to my heart Im currently "battling" synovial cancer - google it - in my rite hip - a tumor lodged between my femur and pelvic bone. - I was diagnosed in February 2012 - I was asymptomatic and the tumor was found when I was undergoing a medical test for another issue. This cancer does not respond to chemo - it is only treatable by radiotherapy and amputation - amputation for me, would more than likely require the removal of the whole of my rite leg or a massive cutting into the pelvic bone and top of the femur (either way, rendering me dependable on walking aids and people for the rest of my life) with absolutely no guarantee of a "cure". As Im sure anyone can appreciate this was a massive shock to me and wow what choices Ive been offered. I had to fly to Melbourne earlier this year to meet with a specialised oncologist (Perth sadly has 3rd world options when it comes to cancer treatments here and many people have to fly East for diagnoses and treatment) who gave me another option which required the drilling into my bone and the depositing of radiation pellets,that leak their poison into my system..in the hope of shrinking the tumor if not eradicating it. I have chosen this option with hope - I wont bore you with the details of the agony and pain Im currently going thru with this treatment but Im perservering, some days are good and Im ok, other days Im dependant on crutches (especially now that its cold) all the while, trying to hold down a new job. The frustration is I have to keep flying to Melbourne for treatment and Im not even going to go into the cost factor....no Medicare covers very little of this The point of my story is this. If had to have my choice of cancers, well I would certainly go with a cancer that allows me to have amputation and fighting chance of survival (in my case amputation still does not give very high odds) - I do not say this flippantly but I wouldn't hesitate to remove tissue that is not for want of better words "required" lowering my chances and a cancer that would also allow me to rebuild (via plastic surgery) the discarded tissue so that I may look "normal" - currently we cant rebuild hips or legs. And I admire any person who is currently battling with any cancer - anyone experiencing this hell will tell you that often the treatment is far worse than the actual disease and when you lay in bed at nite, alone, in the dark, scared and wondering.......all you can do is pray and ask for the grace to face your demons In 2001 my husband died of a rare form of skin cancer which traveled to his lungs - dermatofibrosarcoma - he was 45 - Im sure if had been given a opportunity to remove any part of his body in the hope of a cure or a chance of a longer life, he would have chosen that option without a thought.................you dont not know what true pain is until you watch someone you love dying............and there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do My whole life is now based around beating my disease. Im undergoing experimental treatment which leaves me depleted and scared and which has destroyed my looks and my sensuality. Ive changed my diet, altered my exercise regime (swim now) , changed my job, discarded toxic people and things that are no longer supportive or relative in my life, but as result Ive also become a virtual recluse but I hope somehow, Im finding grace - ironically it was a regular forum poster here who encouraged me to walk this path of acceptance and grace and Im trying very very hard to do so. I was disappointed to read what SirLurk wrote although I fully support his rite to his opinion - however all I can say is until you have experienced or alternatively watched someone you love go thru this you have absolutely no way of knowing how you will react or what you will do (in regards to amputation ) .... - I only pray that none of you have to face this reality...ever As for Ms Jolie...yay for her...for being proactive, for speaking out on what is a personal matter and raising awareness. If her actions lowers her chances (remember her choice still may result in her getting cancer) then you go girl....her body, her choice. And if her words encourage others to go and get tested, and helps them in making proactive decisions regarding their health (which btw is everything) and even more, helps save even one life, then that is absolutely fantastic. .... I only wish I was so brave...
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RHP User
13 years ago
When you say people are doing it out of fear... I say people are doing it out of bravery. If you have a test done, which you are not opposed too, then I would say you would be completely irresponsible and selfish not do something about it if you could. As a parent you don't have the right to gamble your life. Not with a 87% chance. And not knowing is much easier than actually having the test you know. Well SLAL if you are for early detection I hope you are regularly having a finger up the bum then!
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13 years ago
Honestly I think that only a cruel person would say Ange has done this for a boost and because they have probably never taken a stand on anything themselves :P ...FFS she lost her mother and has a serious risk that is way beyond normal ....Ange is not and doesn't need to grab for attention like some celebrities....get over it ppl!
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RHP User
13 years ago
And apologise to all that have read my views....they are pig headed, selfish, and ignorant to at best....- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Shinas, thank you for sharing. Wishing you much strength, as always.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Ms_Devious' I do respect that you stood your ground though and did not flip-flop. Quoting 'sirlurkalot'I will retract my previous comments.... And apologise to all that have read my views*Rolls eyes and leaves thread*
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RHP User
13 years ago
I wish you all the best on your new journey. xoxoxox
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RHP User
13 years ago
But, I think, there is a big difference between the risk and the actuality. Get the tests done, sure, but make sure you explore all the other possible ways of reducing the risks before cutting bits from your body. Plus, the way medical research is progressing, most cancers will be treatable without surgery in the near future so the younger you are the more likely they will have a less drastic treatment. Personally, I refuse to live in fear if what tomorrow might bring.
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RHP User
13 years ago
But I can admit defeat and acknowledge the jury for its opinion. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I am so sorry to hear about your illness. Wishing you strength for the fight. xx
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have been told by a few people that they could probably cure cancer and other diseases now but there is no real money in it so why would they. Now that is what I find offensive.
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platinumblonde69
13 years ago
Quoting 'Funlover71' But, I think, there is a big difference between the risk and the actuality. Get the tests done, sure, but make sure you explore all the other possible ways of reducing the risks before cutting bits from your body. Plus, the way medical research is progressing, most cancers will be treatable without surgery in the near future so the younger you are the more likely they will have a less drastic treatment. Personally, I refuse to live in fear if what tomorrow might bring. Well said...and fingers crossed the cure is sooner rather than later....Plat
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RHP User
13 years ago
For me the whole purpose of posting this was the amount of women in my family I've missed out on getting to know because of breast cancer. 2 grandmothers and a couple of aunties and a cousin. But being male we don't always get to understand it. So the stories shared are a big eye opener for me and thank you for sharing them. For all those in battles with cancer or others you know, God bless and I pray for you all.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
What most people don't realise is 'the powers that be' don't want cancer cured due to the fact that its a multi-billion dollar a year cash cow for the health industry . These feel good stories will pop up every now and then to give everyone a sense of hope. But the reality is money makes the world go around, and while there is that much money to be made from cancer and its "treatments", then cancer will continue to be on the increase no matter how many celebrities speak out. Ask yourself, why is it that with all the money that has been donated over the years, cancer as a whole is still on the increase in most categories ? Despite all the modern day testing and screening, all the billions donated, its still on the increase. You have to think like "them" to understand how "they" think, and when there is billions in the treatment of cancer, and billions being donated over the years, then cancer is not going anywhere while "they" run the show, and will continue to increase as it is today. Sorry if that sounds negative, but when you see how the real world works, who's running it and how they run it, then nothing can dismissed, especially when the results are staring us in the face and cannot be disputed. If you don't believe this, then ask yourself why does only a few cents from every dollar actually reach the destination that the whole dollar was intended ? Who gets the rest of the money and "admin fee's" is just an excuse for someone offshore bank account where the many will never been seen again let alone used for cancer research.
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RHP User
13 years ago
SLALI see where you are coming from, but it is a rather stupid, if not illogical opinion.A person has control of the coming life threatening events. "Oh a bus is comming, i better jump out of the way" "Oh a road, best i stop and look both ways before I cross the street" "Oh, a nuclear bomb is coming, i better start digging a bomb shelter" "Oh, some dude looks right pissed off and he's gonna slap my face inside out, i better run to my mummy"Breast cancer, or any medical issue, is not controllable. It is something that just there. And how would anyone know without being tested? For all i know.. i could have TESTICLE cancer.. but i never got myself tested. But hey.. if i did, and found i DO have cancer on me balls.. Fair enough.. I be happy to ball-less twat than to die of young age. I have too much shit i wanted to do, so much crap i wanted to see. Im not done yet with life. I want to live in good health.These ladies have a choice. IT IS THEIR CHOICE. Your opinion is irrelevant.You really need to sit back, and think it all over again, at every possible aspect, every possible view, every possible thoughts, because my dear good sir, your comments just made you a YAFIR (Yet Another Fucktard In Rhp):)
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RHP User
13 years ago
your an idiot
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RHP User
13 years ago
Lol is that what you believe I'm here for??? To impress??? Bahahahaha - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'DJB76' What most people don't realise is 'the powers that be' don't want cancer cured due to the fact that its a multi-billion dollar a year cash cow for the health industry . These feel good stories will pop up every now and then to give everyone a sense of hope. But the reality is money makes the world go around, and while there is that much money to be made from cancer and its "treatments", then cancer will continue to be on the increase no matter how many celebrities speak out. Ask yourself, why is it that with all the money that has been donated over the years, cancer as a whole is still on the increase in most categories ? Despite all the modern day testing and screening, all the billions donated, its still on the increase. You have to think like "them" to understand how "they" think, and when there is billions in the treatment of cancer, and billions being donated over the years, then cancer is not going anywhere while "they" run the show, and will continue to increase as it is today. Sorry if that sounds negative, but when you see how the real world works, who's running it and how they run it, then nothing can dismissed, especially when the results are staring us in the face and cannot be disputed. If you don't believe this, then ask yourself why does only a few cents from every dollar actually reach the destination that the whole dollar was intended ? Who gets the rest of the money and "admin fee's" is just an excuse for someone offshore bank account where the many will never been seen again let alone used for cancer research. Late last year I attended a lecture at UWA here in Perth by a very well known Professor, Professor Martin Tattersall (Sydney) a world leading oncologist..the title of the lecture was "How and when do I tell my patient the truth?"...it was a lecture for med students ...and it really was about , at what point do you tell your patient that there really is no more hope ? (read: nothing more that the medical profession can do except palliative chemo) - you could have heard a pin drop in that auditorium which sat 3000 students, doctors and the curious that day. It was a disturbing and thought provoking lecture and it would be fair to say I left there very depressed. During question time a med student asked "Professor are we beating cancer ? " - the Professor answered "We are prolonging it........we have good remission results but rarely do we have a complete cure - cure defined by the fact that you are completely cancer free after 7 years and it NEVER returns........." ..a sobering thought.. However.. You never take hope away from anyone,.. if you lose hope you lose everything...and never take a day for granted...ever Thankyou Ms D, Inspirit and Luckdragon..:)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Cancer is on the rise because people live long enough to get it now, at the same time as lifestyles are becoming poor enough to expose you to a lot of risks apart from mere gentic ones. There are a whole pile of other things money hasn't solved in modern life either.No idea where my previous post went, but google ``Rosalarian ticking time bomb'', if you need a one-page comic to spell out Why, Angelina Jolie.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Good to see you posting. :)Thank you for sharing.Thinking of you - you are in my thoughts and prayers.FOXY xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
cancer is on the rise A. Because of all the preservatives and food B. GMO foods C. Increased hormones given to our meat supply and D. Which I think is the most important - STRESS/worry, in particular people not letting go of shit. I have made observations over the years of those, who I know who have suffered form cancer and most of them have had a lot of stress in their lives, in which they have not let go. I believe stress can alter our cell structures. Life is for living not stressing. :-) Just my thoughts......
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RHP User
13 years ago
Its all so simple really. Like the old saying goes prevention is better than a cure
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RHP User
13 years ago
Funlover.....well said... And inspirit I couldn't agree more...- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'lizzie193'your an idiot Lizzie, we disagree with opinions here, but personal attacks and name calling are uncalled-for.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Inspirit, you are exactly right and these are the reasons cancer is on the increase because it was planned that way by those who not only profit from owning the companies that put these chemicals into our food and water, but when you look deep enough are the same people that have invested financial interests in the health system that then profits from all the treatments of cancer. Most people don't realise that it always goes back to the top end of the pyramid. There is a small, but very powerful few at the top end, but they are the receivers of all profits at the end of line. As an experiment, type in a known company name, then see what company owns it, then what company owns that, and then what company owns that and on and on, and you'll find in most cases its all goes back to the same few companies. Then look into who owns, runs or controls those companies and then look into all their other industries that they are receiving profits from. You'll soon see how the pyramid works and who's at the top of it ! I think its great that Angelina has raised awareness, but the whole point is why we continue to allow these people and companies to poison us on a daily basis, then the rates of cancer will continue to increase, regardless of how many celebrities speak out. Eating healthy is no longer an option to fighting cancer, and THEY know this, that's why even now the healthy food is also being poisoned, or injected with chemicals. Many of these chemicals may not cause cancer directly, but will target area's of the brain that then make critical thinking and decision making a clouded blur, or as its more commonly called.......'being dumbed down'. Dumbed down slowly enough over time so that we accept their treatments, accept cancer, and accept the costs of the treatments, but dumbed down slow enough that we don't notice as a collective. If cancer can be cured by research and donations, then why not tax the Catholic church on its billions of tax free profits , and tax the illegal federal reserve and that should raise all the money needed for a cure. But THEY don't want a cure, because there is too much money being made in the treatment. We have all been taught that PREVENTION is better than CURE, so if we could prevent cancer then there is no need for a cure, but while its in all our foods and water supply, it WILL continue to increase and the celebrities will continue to line up to be a spokesperson ! I have nothing against people having hope, but I just hope that their hope isn't a deluded reality, or a false hope. And while THEY continue to poison us, and WE continue to allow it to happen, then i'm sorry but there is little, to no hope. And that is the cold hard reality of this whole situation.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sirlurkalot'To say she's brave is just delusional.... The brave women are the single women battling breast cancer right now....with noone that visits them....the women that will leave their kids orphaned but still fight on.....ALONE. That's brave, and very courageous. To have a double mastectomy without breast cancer is just scared. - Posted from rhpmobile I would step away very very quietly I have known of men to have their prostrate out, and they were told no sex again or death so for most people with the gene for any kind of illness you have to caculate the risk and think of your future if it was me i could never been that brave but i am at the end of my life and my girls are grown women. your not a woman honey you dont have boobs, but men get breast cancer as well you know. so your choice would b e to keep your man boobs then ?
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RHP User
13 years ago
I thought sirpooroldlurkalot was about to get his bits cut off... but the forums are passionate and often views differ and thats how its meant to be
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RHP User
13 years ago
But Lurk a lot of people are faced with this decision daily and by Ange doing this she has shown them there is another choice and they too can take that path seeing someone such as herself as done it. I couldnt imagine the fears faced I dont consider knowing you have over 80% chance of getting cancer equivilent to taking normal everyday risks by living our lives.What I would like to see know is money towards reconstructive surgery after this operation because that I am sure plays a huge impact on the women who test positive for this gene.
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RHP User
13 years ago
As a relative newbie I always lurk and watch the old hands. I also felt the need to stick up for Sir Lurk even though I couldn't agree with a thing he said. I also felt that perhaps people could have explained the facts to him without dragging him across hot coals (hell maybe he likes that kinda thing). I get his view, and agree we can't chop bits off 'in case'. But this is a very different known genetic predisposition where only fools ignore the stats. I have also sat across from an Oncologist getting the 'talk' and know the terror. Just need to send light & love to Shinas. Lot's of it!!!!!!!! MK x
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RHP User
13 years ago
The brca1 gene is a gene responsible for repairing damaged DNA or the destruction given the damage is too great. The mutation on this gene changes the repair on the damaged gene and it remains repaired but with some errors. This, seems to be what triggers cancer cells. While I can duly note, and accept that this type of disrepair that's left is targeted at the breast tissue and the ovaries, it is NOT solely limited to these. While I can acknowledge that by having a prophylactic mastectomy(double in this case), may mitigate the risk of developing breast cancer, you're not mitigating the likely hood of developing cancer period. You're simply shifting the availability of developing cancer in that commonly targeted area to another part of the body. So while I can acknowledge that Miss Jolie may have reduced her risk in developing breast cancer, she has not guaranteed or even mitigated her risks of dying any more so, or increased her lifespan any, PRIOR to this surgery. I could and would see value in this procedure IF there was more of a chance of mitigating her risk of developing cancer in general, but, while this mutation of the brca1 gene is left unresolved, you're not preventing or mitigating a thing in my view.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
......- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'MissKay' As a relative newbie I always lurk and watch the old hands. I also felt the need to stick up for Sir Lurk even though I couldn't agree with a thing he said. I also felt that perhaps people could have explained the facts to him without dragging him across hot coals (hell maybe he likes that kinda thing). I get his view, and agree we can't chop bits off 'in case'. But this is a very different known genetic predisposition where only fools ignore the stats. I have also sat across from an Oncologist getting the 'talk' and know the terror. Just need to send light & love to Shinas. Lot's of it!!!!!!!! MK x ...and yet...... a majority of women in here stated their preference for a circumcised penis.Just sayin...DG
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RHP User
13 years ago
People do some research, you might be surprised to find out how many people have and have lived their lives with the cancer gene and lead healthy lives. Yes, removing her breasts will lower the chance. Brave, I think not. Regular checks up would get any problems in enough time. It's not like she can't afford the best doctors. Just waiting for all the followers to remove their breasts as well.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Everyone HAS these genes... called BRCA1 and BRCA2. (BR identifying 'breast')We are all born with a pair... one from each parent, and their role is to produce specific proteins to repair cellular damage that occurs through the normal cell functions.Some women inherit BRCA mutations, and when both genes become damaged (though toxins, hormones or mutation), then the, thats where normal repair functions are affected and cells may become malignant.Some ethnic demographics have higher proportion of this gene, and others a higher representation of a different defective gene.People buy lottery tickets with higher odds.... and hope they win.Angelina took stock of her odds and did what she thought was right.... for her.... given the information she was presented. End of story really.DG
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RHP User
13 years ago
As a high profile person she is bringing to attention a matter of great importance rather than burying one's head in the sand.There are emotional and psychological issues that stops a woman from chopping her breast off, ie. rejection from mate, so it is not just her but any woman who would go through this.Just imagine you were told to chop your dick off or die of cancer, does that bring home the emotional and psychological implications then?A real man would stand by his mate but unfortunately some men don't have the courage to stay.This decision highlights the positives, eliminating any possibility of cancer as she wants to live a full life with her husband and kids.If her profile brings to attention the matter of breast cancer and pro active action then it is a good thing, a lot of groups have applauded her high profile, not as a look at me thing but to bring the matter of Breast Cancer to the Fore.
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RHP User
13 years ago
She had options, she had the support of a loving family, she had staff to take care of her children whilst she recovered, she could have an reconstruction by the best plastic surgeons avaiable as soon as she was physically able and she did. She had the money to be able to make this choice, she wasn't grandstanding by any means, otherwise cameras would've followed her throughout her operations. She has raised awareness, this can never be a bad thing, even if we don't have the options that she has. My Mother had breast cancer and had a mastectomy, she fought the battle of the breast but unfortunately secondary cancers are common and uncurable. Angelinas story not only raises awareness of preventable cancers but highlights the fact that there even though she has taken extreme measures to prevent one cancer she is still at risk of others. There can never be enough awareness.
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RHP User
13 years ago
My heart goes out to you.. Not in pity. I think you sound incredibly brave. I'm Sending you a big warm cosmic hug to wear around your shoulders for when you are alone at night scared and wondering... Feel my hug instead. I wish you well xxxxxxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
My heart goes out to you Not in pity, I think you are incredibly brave and thank you for sharing. I'm sending you a big warm cosmic hug to drape around your shoulders so when you feel alone in the dark scared and wondering ... Feel my hug instead I wish you well xxxxxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
I am no longer following this thread, because its being trolled. Great intentions Op and for the record, I could only begin to imagine the anguish Angie felt. She was very brave to be upfront about it, and if young girls got a scare and started checking their breasts in the shower because of her then good on her. To be in a high risk group and not gather all the facts about possible outcomes via various roads of treatment is ignorant, naive and means you are either in denial or scared to face your demons. No amount of wiki clarification should make someone dismiss their current situation as flippant. Go see a Doctor SirLurk, for your children's sake.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Ms Jolie was facing and continues to face the terror of cancer. Because it was breast cancer, she was facing the destruction of two body parts that, in this society at least, define her as a woman. Because she is a glamorous female actor, they helped to define her in that role, down to helping determine her market price. She had no doubt been taught to value herself by her appearance, and by her breasts. She was given an expert diagnosis and prognosis. Prudently, she measured her risk - and risk measurement is what we all do many times a day. She acted on that assessment. So far, choosing to be mutilated, even with the best reconstruction, in the midst of a tsunami of doubt and terror, was of course brave. Of course. But then, when all she must have wanted was to curl up in a ball, hide from the world, and try to forget, she did something else. She destroyed any Monroe image she might have had to tell the world. That won't get her any more scripts; it won't get her any more money; it won't minimize chances of spread of the cancer. What it will do is warn others to get check ups and such treatment as is necessary. The cost of this unpaid public service is that she cannot even have privacy in her illness. It will shadow her, and some people will think her less glamorous, less desirable, and move away when she walks in. True bravery to benefit others. I call that nobility. And she is still goddamn good looking.
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RHP User
13 years ago
You nailed it... well said
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