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Charge for males at parties and events
December 20 2020
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RHP User
5 years ago
I think its a disgrace. Our local clubs are pretty good, some nights they have reduced prices for single guys. You get a few couples moaning about the single men but they forget that hubby was once a single guy.
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SpicyKale
5 years ago
It's an interesting debate! On one side you charge more to limit numbers, get those that are serious and hopefully those with a bit of class... the problem is doing so can give a sense of entitlement to the guys paying large sums of cash to attend. Your local club, "the rabbit hole" will only allow singles attend that they've actually met, they also limit to keep genders matched and don't charge huge amounts more. OSS I believe have a similar policy at Annandale? Depending on the night you'll pay a bit more. So they both vet and neither will accept shit behaviour. It's probably a decent way of doing business, paying the same amount as a couple isn't all that bad? Charging huge amount more with expectations attached is just bad business practice on behalf of other venues and in all honesty you can just avoid them can't you?
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SimplyUs
5 years ago
It’s certainly an interesting question you raise. You’re right that the number of males can be limited by simply restricting the number of spots. We also can’t help but wonder whether this practice contributes to the number of “thirsty” single guys who are expecting to get something for their money, which is a common complaint on here...
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RHP User
5 years ago
What have you got when charge exuberant entry fees in order to screen single men?? Clearly just the same standard but has money... Money in my view hasn’t ever been a good screening tool....I suspect that this will only exploit the fact that at some point, we all have our price.... Kinda sad really
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Freaky_Fun
5 years ago
I think it's shit too. Especially the club prices although it's a little hard to vet once they're already at the door. It's always the same price for single females and males at my parties. If single females don't want to pay 🤷♀️. I quite like men so always happy for them to attend. As it turns out l always have more women than men. I do vet extremely hard for my parties and l make no apologies for that. I use common sense and a good judge of character and that has served me well. My parties are always fully booked so I'm doing something right.
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MsSuperFoxy
5 years ago
It doesn't appear fair. However I do see both sides. There is pros and cons. I was told once(by a well known business owner), it's just business. But then again it does shift out those very thirsty single men. But then again, I have witnessed those thirsty men behave disgusting at a club. I've even had a pool cue thrown down at me on a pool table because I stated No. I have also witnessed (single and married men) things, that my eyes wished they've never seen. That's not on, well not in my eyes anyways. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
5 years ago
The size of his dick is proportionate to the size of his wallet! That's how the formula works! 😔
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LibraLovers
5 years ago
There are pros and cons to it I guess. I personally don't like when wealth or attractiveness ends up being the decider who can attend. I think they should be screening for someone's attitude, as being hot or rich doesn't mean you can be trusted to behave. But those few single male regulars are a huge stream of income for the club. I don't know what the cashflow of running these events is like or how profitable it is, but I'm guessing at least right now during the pandemic, that would be a loss for them to reduce single men's tickets and everyone else's would probably be raised to cover it. The only other positive I see is that if the tickets are prepaid, making it more expensive would increase the likelihood of people showing up. I hear it's hard to predict numbers due to this, and that it happens a lot with single men, but I don't think they're the only ones who can be unreliable.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Basically, they are pimps
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AKAHunk
5 years ago
My thought is the really quality single guys won't pay (too much) to go to a swingers club, they have plenty of other options. I'm ok with paying the same as a couple, but more than that is pushing it. If it's just about a high price with no vetting you'll risk getting "cashed up bogans" who feel they're entitled because they've paid so much.
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platm
5 years ago
Grt
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RHP User
5 years ago
Should be priced per person flat rate. Simple
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KSB79
5 years ago
The price is also closely related to the exclusion which I find in most events. The following extract is from a major event. "Single Men and Women Men – it may appear prejudiced but SINGLE MALES are not invited, regardless of whether they wish to come alone, or with other guys, or with couples. We are simply enforcing the repeated requests of our regular guests who are couples and single women. Women – by themselves, groups or with couples are very welcome." I get the need to protect patrons, I get the habitual bad behaviour more frequently displayed by single males, and I get the need to attract women and couples... but surely in this day and age there are better ways than discrimination. 'The single male is a sex pest, but once he partners up he is reliable and desirable' - the logic is flawed. If it was just a few events that were trying to cater to woman more it would be different.. but it's not, it is most events. Gay couples (men) are also discriminated against here and pose no risk of predatory behaviour against women, yet they are also banned. I would much prefer to see careful screening of a select number of spots tailored to the event and audience than discrimination.. yet is seems to continue to be rife in this lifestyle... I don't understand why and I don't understand how society continues to allow it to continue. I would have thought social control would have intervened here. Surely we can do better.
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Long_May_We_Play
5 years ago
As a single male, i just don’t even waste my time and go, to be treated this way ! How different it would be if the females were charged double or triple admission fees..........🤔
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RHP User
5 years ago
It’s almost 2021. Gender based pricing needs to stop period. I have never been to an event that has gender based pricing and never will.
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earthpig
5 years ago
It's just the way it is... Guys have always paid... Swings and roundabouts...
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Freaky_Fun
5 years ago
Of course you could always host your own events or parties and charge whatever you want for your effort and time it takes to organise 🤷♀️
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Swingingnudist
5 years ago
I was organising events a few years ago and always had extra guys because thats what the ladies requested. All the guys were well behaved and got invited back to other events. It all depends on how and what type of party you are aiming to run.
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RHP User
5 years ago
I enjoy themed club nights but dont go to many because of the lack of single guys. I wish clubs had a regular singles night (at the weekend, not random weekday evenings) where it was a good ratio of single men to women and we all paid the same entry fee. To be honest, some of the hubbies can be pushy and sleazy, yet they call single guys pests
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RHP User
5 years ago
The charge was the least of my concern when I went to my first party/club night in Perth years ago. Being the introvert I am, I found the entire process daunting... from start, to the meet and greet. If paying higher fees as a single male, meant a guarantee of meeting single females, or least knowing you’ll have similar people to meet, greet, get to know before the lights go dim who are just as out of their comfort zones as you are... and who had paid less, - then I would have no qualms about paying slightly more. Unfortunately I felt like I paid more, to a. Be the only single male, b. Initially more uncomfortable than everyone for this reason. I still had a great time, and was made to feel comfortable by some very strong minded women, though I guess I have too also wondered if the whole experience was worth me paying more than what couples were paying?
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ExhibitionistEve
5 years ago
Are people really crying discrimination over this? Sorry but I totally disagree. To me it means treating someone unjustly on the grounds of something they can't change. But we're talking about sex, and potential sexual access to other people in a vulnerable setting, which no one has a right to. You will not be disadvantaged in life if you can't afford to attend a swingers party. It's not a matter of equal opportunity, it's the host's prerogative to decide who they invite and what they charge. Nobody deserves access to these parties, it's a privilege - male or otherwise. I've been rejected before as the hosts were aiming at an older crowd (40+) and said my presence won't suit the vibe. I don't whinge about 'age discrimination'. Nor do I whinge when my ticket sometimes costs more than half a couple's ticket. If you don't agree with it don't give them your money. That's not to say I'm a fan of gender based pricing or think achieves much vetting-wise; I'm strongly in favour of alternative screening methods if hosts have the resources to implement them, but I think there is a profit being made off the current system. It's a flawed system but it's not discrimination.
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2EssesExploring
5 years ago
Simple economics of supply and demand at the end of the day. Add to that some basic marketing principles and it is worth attracting single women at reduced profit margin. From what I’ve seen most events will charge couples around $100 and single women $50 and single men anywhere from $100-200. This is likely quite fair and sound business practice. The couple are paying g $50 each, the same as the single woman, all fair there right? Then single males wanting in to the event are likely in oversupply and the organisers don’t want it overrun with randy single guys as they aren’t aiming at a gangbang style event so demand for the few tickets available is much higher so reflected in the price. Another idea I’ve just thought of is why the single guys are attending, are they just after a smorgasbord of available women to stick their bit in or do they truly value the dynamic offered? A nice prostitute will cost from $300 and hour up so anyone just wanting a cheap root would think a few hundred bucks for many hours in a room full of women primarily there for sex would be great value. Just like a concert, those front row tickets are exorbitantly expensive but the true fan will gladly pay!
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RHP User
5 years ago
The Reverse Sexism is rampant when attending Clubs or reading many of the profyles. The whole scene has a very strong theme that seems to enjoy belittling and ridyculing the guys . It's actually quite nasty .
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RHP User
5 years ago
Have to agree kinkyhugh. All this does is turn away "quality" guys, as they don't NEED to go to a club or party to pick up. And in fact has the opposite affect of attracting the more desperate and dateless types.
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2EssesExploring
5 years ago
Just reading through all the comments and remembering past experiences I remembered what were the most fun and successful nights out I have been to. Without a doubt they were loosely organised meets at normal clubs at no extra cost than the club entrance. All the money saved could be spent on champagne and cocktails and people just mingled as one normally would at a club but with a little more intimacy and familiarity. Most of these nights didn’t result in play time although some always had hotel rooms on offer but you met people you liked and would organise to meet at a later date. To be honest they were also mostly couple based but I could see the same thing working with single guys. If anyone was being a dick they would not get anywhere and likely would be handled by the existing club security. Does anyone do this anymore?
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playingwithfire
5 years ago
Can’t see the problem really. There’s disparity in all areas of gender. (Think hair cut $) Lets face it. Single men that attend a lifestyle club/event are counting on a target rich environment. Try bringing a +1 and everyone’s a winner. There are many dynamics at play when a couple make a decision to enter the lifestyle. The reason single men want access is much more basic.
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RHP User
5 years ago
I throw parties and I charge everyone the same price. Couples, single guys and single women. The guys are all heavily vetted though. I attract quality guys bc they are not paying more and bc I attract such high quality guys we get lots of single women to our parties too. No single girl has ever complained about paying the same as guys.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Single men seem to be quick to say they are coming, but usually fail to turn up. By increasing the price, it helps to ensure only committed men actually get a place. Plus it’s nice if men are willing to pay more so women can pay less. We spend enough on our outfits and everything else we are required to do to impress men and look sexy.
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