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Heartfelt Tribute 2...

December 20 2014

Early this week I posted this same thread with the intent of offering the people of RHP a place to express their grief for those 2 young Australians who perished in the Sydney hostage siege. The post was pulled after a complaint' so I ask that everyone who joins shows the respect for this sensitive subject. The sea of floral offerings now evident in Martin Place show the real Australian spirit .. RIP Katrina and Tori..

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Is still there for people to read.even though it's an edited version.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Just a terrible even by a crazed man..... yes RIP Katrina & Tori but also to the other traumatised victims. Life will never be the same for them.......

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Quoting 'joder181' Just a terrible even by a crazed man..... yes RIP Katrina & Tori but also to the other traumatised victims. Life will never be the same for them....... event not even. sorry.....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I just wish we could stop hating

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Martin place today to pay my respects ... Extremely emotional - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    This tragedy touched so many. Rest in peace, Katrina and Tori.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    RIP - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ...that sprung up the following day. It involved non-Muslim Australian citizens offering to ride on public transport with their Muslim counterparts to show that we do not hold all Islam accountable for the actions of one insane zealot and also to defend in case someone did. R.I.P. Katrina and Tori. Peace to all.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Yesterday a beautiful muslim bride in full white wedding gown including traditional head scarf, laid her wedding bouquet with the thousands of other flowers in Martin Place. The crowd there applauded her when she did and so do I. I can only imagine how much this simple action touched everyone, including the bride and groom who showed alot of courage . The wedding planner had advised the bride not to attend because of the likely backlash on her wedding day , but she insisted.. Thumbs up from me.. Then there was the group of muslim bike riders ( bicycles ) who rode from Punchbowl to Martin Place to pay their respects. Their spokeperson was interview on 7 and spoke extremely well.. So good to see the muslim people coming out to show their support..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Call me a nark..... I don't care.... we're expressing our views here. But I thought the gesture of the muslim bride and groom .... was rather an attention seeking move on what should have been a special day just for a couple who were solidifying their unity...... to eachother. They could just as easily shown all their respect, love and have done it as man and woman..... without the obvious wedding/religious display.... just as hundreds of other people of all faiths including Islam, have already done to show support for those who were lost to this vile act. DG

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    I was happy to follow and add to this hashtag. Naturally I feel a patriotic urge wanting to smash and stamp out any religiously motivated crime raring its head in our country. However with scarce detail this seems more a nutcase rampage and a terribly misguided one at that. Either way the facts or at least the reported facts ultimately fall I do not feel it's even slightly logical nor Australian to put a blanket blame on an entire group. I've toured through Muslim countries by myself. I've felt the feeling of being the odd one out. Are all white Christian Hindu catholic Bhuddist agnostic atheist etc etc Australians as pure as the driven snow - of course not.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    And obviously we should all mourn any senseless loss like this. I may even take my kids to see the makeshift shrine.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Keep the post on track.. ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Maaaaaaate..... it was on the track YOU built. Now you're complaining where the train is heading?! #quityawhingin'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I told rhp monitors I wouldn't be drawn into confrontation.. and I wont.. I noticed you never posted any tributes... ? thats my track... ?

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Quoting 'jensman1903' ...that sprung up the following day. It involved non-Muslim Australian citizens offering to ride on public transport with their Muslim counterparts to show that we do not hold all Islam accountable for the actions of one insane zealot and also to defend in case someone did. R.I.P. Katrina and Tori. Peace to all.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    It certainly was a tragic event and, despite the best efforts of the police, seems as though it couldn't have ended any other way. The thing I wonder about, however, is why the public gets intensely involved in these high profile cases and appear blind to the suffering of Indigenous Australians, the poor and other minority groups. These often horrific systemic injustices are with us every single day, yet you will never see the outpouring of grief that we witnessed as a result of the Lindt hostage siege. Clearly the collective grief that follows a tragic event such as the Lindt siege is fuelled by around-the-clock media saturation, because they know people will watch and identify with it. The Murdoch press wasn't the only media organisation that could be labelled 'ghoulish'. Yes, they are pandering to the mainstream, where any one of us could have been in that café. But do we really need to be able to identify with a situation to show empathy and concern for others in a bad situation. Given the latest incident and similar ones that have gone before, and people continue to suffer in our prosperous country, it seems that the answer is yes.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    .. and completely understand where your coming from.. . I think the difference here is we've been expecting something like this to happen for years and now that it has we've been stunned into reality.. Terror in a Martin Place who would have thought.? Not for one moment am I disrespecting what you had to say..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Jay_me' I told rhp monitors I wouldn't be drawn into confrontation.. and I wont..(you just did... and sought to make it look otherwise) I noticed you never posted any tributes... ? thats my track... ? Notice harder... elsewhere. Full stop

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    There was an immediate identifying with the hostages because this event unfolded before our eyes...it didn't just happen and then we heard about it,in some way we participated too.We imbued the hostages with the value we place on our own lives...we place less value on the lives of indigenous people and other marginalised groups and unless we directly come in contact with their suffering,we don't think about them....Just recently there was a little bit of press coverage regarding the increasingly high suicide rate of indigenous children..but then we moved on.....We only really know some of what Tori and Katrina went through,and most of us may never really know the full story,but both of these people were heroic in their actions and because of them,others were able to flee it seems.....The man who committed this act was a self styled terrorist and should have been in prison for other crimes such as a number of sexual assaults and the brutal murder of his ex wife xx Freya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Yes, Freya, the mainstream media sets the agenda. But if we strive to become more knowledgeable about what's going on in our communities, and not allow ourselves to be spoon-fed information, then we as a public can alter what the media deems important to report. We could all be heroes and save the lives of many people, if only we put our thoughts and compassions into action. Even expressing those ideas en masse would make a significant difference.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And I pay my respect to all that have their lives cut short.This is a high profile murder and some media outlets have sensationalised the tragedy into something that it is not.The basic facts are this guy was a lunatic and acting on his own. It wasn't a terrorism act. Jay you were using some emotive words in your last post. I may be reading into something you are trying to allude. So this is why Ive posted here.

  • one4thetaking

    one4thetaking

    11 years ago

    Tiroba I agree with you especially given the more recent events in cairns and the murder it over a hundred innocent school kids in Pakistan. I feel that we need to question the role of mainstream and social media more. I don't accept the publics right to know as a legimate reason having been learnt the gruesome details of a friends horrific murder through the front page of the local newspaper some years ago. My question then to the editor was the publics right to know against friends and families right to be spared the gruesome detail? Also where is the same public reaction to the weekly deaths from domestic violence? And to raise/ question in this manner can subject you to ridicule when rationale debate is needed. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Correct, you are reading into something.. Both posts were only posted to give the people of rhp somewhere to express there grief.. Good to see you took time out to do just that, and that alone...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    But what was the GOV thinking letting these radicals into the country in the first place.Be it boat people or immigration.