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Hope is a word I have been pondering lately
March 17 2013
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RHP User
13 years ago
My problem with the word "hope" is that it implies a lack of autonomy and personal responsibility. Over a lot of things we have no control, and I get that someone can hope for good weather or a positive outcome of someone's cancer operation. (Is hoping and praying the same thing in situations like that?) However, a "sitting back and hoping for a good result" attitude kinda gets up my goat. At least "prepare for the worst" implies that some kind of action is needed. I think when people leave things up to the universe, they are definitely likely to be disappointment. Especially when their dreams were unrealistic to start with. Now excuse me while I make sure my phone is working. I'm expecting a call saying I won OzLotto any day now.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Wishin' n hopin' and hopin' and prayin' .........
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm not a fan of hope.......for me it denotes a powerlessness that i don't subscribe to. I'm just not willing to sit back and wait for someone...something.....to deliver to me the things i want from life. I have always assumed that what i want from life is possible, that it will happen and that i can achieve it. I start from a point of view of assuming that it will happen, then i ask myself....what do i need to do to make it happen. Hope for me equals powerless.....I much prefer to take action. I do know that sometimes circumstances are beyond our control, but even then we usually feel better for taking some action........hope alone has never been enough for me.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think hope is inevitable for humans. A positive, action-oriented version of it is aspiration. What a beautiful thing, to aspire to something and make choices in your life to bring that something to fruition. Hope is destructive when it leads to inertia, wallowing, and an inability to face reality. I have compassion for myself and others when hope is futile but strong. I know there's pain ahead and I wish me/them strength. Eventually, a rational person recognises pointless hope and does the work to let go. Delusional or 'stuck' people have a much harder time, I think. Big hugs to anyone who's hanging on to futile hope at the momen. May your journey of letting go be freeing for your spirit x
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RHP User
13 years ago
i am going to get a root tonight, that is the positive but i bet my wife has the negative to match that, lol.
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madotara69
13 years ago
Traditionally, hope sat with faith. Troubled families in Mid Eastern cultures, had faith for god to return to them, lead them to happiness, hope was a comforting sense for the family loved ones, to share in thought, while exercising the belief for faith.If for example; I were to say to you, Freya reading these posts and sharing a few thoughts with you has led to wanting to come and meet for the chance to talk with you. If you Freya agreed to the same senses. Then we would share the feelings for hope, until the time we met.If for example; A bloke sitting at the bar in a pub, saw a pretty lady at a distance, and expressed that he hoped to take her home and root her that night. It is not the proper word. As the lady does not know to his thoughts,the bond with hope can not be shared, without him approaching her to establish that she has reason for his thoughts, then maybe she would then share with the bloke, their hope to leave with him later, and root. Wish may be the better word, when he was at the bar, distant and unknown to her. Intend as well. Plan, Gunna, Will, want even.Not hope, that is a bonding word for the Father to the Mother, and for their children, to see food on the table that day, and each day until faith prevails. Mado
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RHP User
13 years ago
.....we wouldn't buy lotto tickets, go on dates or be on this site.We know we will get lucky eventually.
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RHP User
13 years ago
after the word ...........love Without hope we are nothing My life is full of hope - some hopes are unrealistic - some are dreams of a better life, some outcomes I will control but some I wont..but do not take hope away from me ever !!! We all get out of bed each day filled with hope - that whatever our current situation is ..that it gets better. You know you hope to win the lottery, hope to get that job promotion, hope the weather is good today, hope my footy team wins etc Our hopes and dreams drive us...as they should .... A small story: When I was a med student - I refused to complete a turorial - the tute was on..how to inform a terminally ill patient or family member that there was no hope of recovery- I walked out of the tute and was hauled off to my professors offce..for a please explain....I stood before my stern Porfessor and when asked to justify my actions I told him this: I had AML when I was 19 - at this age it is ususally fatal but I survived..thru the wonders of modern medicine , grit and will and yes hope....Im not religious but I hoped and believed that I would get better and I did.................I refuse to tell anyone that there is no hope (even if tehcnically there isnt - I will not destroy anyones belief system to suit my own cause - and yes folsk there is miralces that defy scient and medicine) I will not have anyone tell me, that I cannot hope for anything - if my hopes are unrealistic - then in time...it is up to me to realise that my hopes are just dreams and WHEN I AM READY - I WILL LET GO....BUT ONLY WHEN I AM READY - a pateint dying knows in the end anyway....if all is holess then why bother at all...........thor int eh towl and awlak away or fight to the bitter end...but let the patient decide when its the end............not the doctor.. I failed the tute..but I passed the course with distinction....with the Professors commendation When you take hope away from anyone..you leave them nothing - I will not be a victim of that. I hope for love in my life, I hope for a cure for cancer, I hope my football teams wins the GF ( a given) I hope for a phone call, I hope to hear the words I love you, I hope to live my life with dignity and grace, I hope for a good outcome for a job interview this week, I hope that someone takes my phone call tonite when I ring them..glad to hear my voice, I hope I remem ber how to rock stilettos (ballet flats being my foot wear of choice at the mo) I hope I can remember where I put my car keys (again) ... I hope the kids next door realise that Snoop Dog (at 4.00am in the morning) is RUDE. I will not buy into any ones idea of what my hopes should be............I know what I hope for and I will chase my hopes and dreams to the bitter end....or when Im ready to say...enough - but Im the only one that can decide if my hopes fall short of reality for me...............................not a man in a white coat..
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RHP User
13 years ago
I was hoping for an other good thread :) .... My short answer is "Dum spiro spero". Would you like to read some more ?
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RHP User
13 years ago
was not about taking hope away or saying that the positive aspect of hope doesn't exist,my point was about the negative aspect of hope,something in our society we are often in denial about.Sometimes it is called false hope.
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RHP User
13 years ago
As Oscar Wilde said, "Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience."Hope is just the expectation of something that you want to happen to eventuate. If people to not have hope, they do not achieve. After all, as some people have noted, some of us, including me, are here hoping to meet someone and have a great time. It has not happened yet, perhaps never. Frustrating, yes. Hopeless? No. I get to read forum posts and contribute where I can. Is it helpful or entertaining to anyone? No idea. I still do it anyway as it has meaning for me. Hope is something that a person believes in. With that hope, the person will do something to make sure that the expected outcome becomes a reality. If it does not happen, well, try another approach. It is a fallacy to think that we have full control over our lives. We have control over the decisions we make but not the outcomes. I have a friend who gets frustrated when things don't turn out like she wants. I just shrug it off, saying I did my best, but it did not eventuate as I thought it would. I'll try something different or move on. Letting go is an important part of life too. Is there really a negative to hope? The anti-thesis of hope is despair. I would think that hope can become despair if a person is not well grounded.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Without hope we definately have nothing to live for, good and bad. I work with and encourage hope everyday, hoping to live one more day because you are so loved and wanted and you don't want to miss one minute of this thing called hope. What most people wish for is in no category called hope. Hope you get what you wish for :-)
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RHP User
13 years ago
but I will answer your questions more directly Does hope sometimes feed our delusions,set us up to always be disappointed.? Yes it probably does..but then what do you put in its place if we take from one hope ? Does hope keep us grasping for what might be the unattainable? Yes but the question is is it attainable ? -only each iindividual can decide that Is it better to be contented with what we already have in life and be pleasantly surprised when we actually get more.? Yes we should be content with our lot in life..but are we ? theres is nothing wrong though with wanting/desiring more..but the catch is to appreciate it...but how often do we ? Does hope sometimes lead us to bitterness because we feel hopeless when what we were hoping for did not eventuate? It can, if we let it - we chose our emotions and reactions to any given situation As Christos so eloquently put it..."Dum Spiro Spero"
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RHP User
13 years ago
False hope.... Its crushing.....Happens to me sometimes...dislike when someone sets me up, gives me hope..then nothing..Much like The Disappearing Act...disappoints me, cause I wait in hope..... :-( Foxy - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
What a beautiful, impassioned post. I think I hope for all of those things too (minus the football - seriously, who gives a toss?! :P)
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RHP User
13 years ago
When hope is mixed with futility it can prolong suffering. Sometimes a quick shot of reality is the kinder medicine.
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Smilingwithfun
13 years ago
To generally quote from a movie "Hope is a good thing,perhaps the best of things" Only when an unreal expectation is hoped for does it hurt to hope,then again, what is an unreal expectation. Putting a timeline on hope is not good. Hope is a great emotion for me,like finding the perfect wave. And with hope, like the perfect wave,i'll ride it till the end.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sometimes hope can bring a force of will from an individual or a crowd. False hope can be dashed against the rocks like a wave but you can be assured that wave after wave will come.It is in our nature to hope, it stirs our will to fight for what is ours and how things should be. When that man stood in front of the tank column in Tiananmen Square he was hoping to bring about change and he did. A single unarmed man against huge war machines, most would see his physical actions as hopeless but they weren't.Yes false hope can be damaging but without hope we are nothing.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Freya???
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RHP User
13 years ago
Freya ..
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RHP User
13 years ago
Freya, 'hope' and 'expectations' are different yes? or no? I believe that hope has no time limits. WHEN by my solitary hearth I sit,And hateful thoughts enwrap my soul in gloom;When no fair dreams before my "mind's eye" flit,And the bare heath of life presents no bloom;Sweet Hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,And wave thy silver pinions o'er my head!Whene'er I wander, at the fall of night,Where woven boughs shut out the moon's bright ray,Should sad Despondency my musings fright,And frown, to drive fair Cheerfulness away,Peep with the moonbeams through the leafy roof,And keep that fiend Despondence far aloof!Should Disappointment, parent of Despair,Strive for her son to seize my careless heart;When, like a cloud, he sits upon the air,Preparing on his spell-bound prey to dart:Chase him away, sweet Hope, with visage bright,And fright him as the morning frightens night!Whene'er the fate of those I hold most dearTells to my fearful breast a tale of sorrow,O bright-eyed Hope, my morbidfancy cheer;Let me awhile thy sweetest comforts borrow:Thy heaven-born radiance around me shed,And wave thy silver pinions o'er my head!Should e'er unhappy love my bosom pain,From cruel parents, or relentless fair;O let me think it is not quite in vainTo sigh out sonnets to the midnight air!Sweet Hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,And wave thy silver pinions o'er my head!In the long vista of the years to roll,Let me not see our country's honour fade:O let me see our land retain her soul,Her pride, her freedom; and not freedom's shade.From thy bright eyes unusual brightness shed---Beneath thy pinions canopy my head!Let me not see the patriot's high bequest,Great Liberty! how great in plain attire!With the base purple of a court oppress'd,Bowing her head, and ready to expire:But let me see thee stoop from heaven on wingsThat fill the skies with silver glitterings!And as, in sparkling majesty, a starGilds the bright summit of some gloomy cloud;Brightening the half veil'd face of heaven afar:So, when dark thoughts my boding spirit shroud,Sweet Hope, celestial influence round me shed,Waving thy silver pinions o'er my head! You know who.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Just after I joined the beautiful Hesione disappeared, only to rise from the ashes as Freya a short time later. Maybe this is a natural turn of events that must happen biannually. Here's hoping!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Very naughty of her to not say good bye! Hope all is okay.
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RHP User
13 years ago
She'll be fine... She just needs time and space. Foxy- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
The beautiful Freya returns soon. Maybe the 31st of March would be appropriate? ;-)
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Playful2looking
13 years ago
Hope is the main force of the human spirit maybe best teamed with Imagine. You hope; you imagine; you succeed
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RHP User
13 years ago
The two strongest of human emotions are hope, and fear.Now I believe that to have hope is fine.........but its not how I like to live my life.I'd rather have a strategy....than to rely upon the intangibility of hope.DG
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Playful2looking
13 years ago
I dont see hope in negative way. For example you house burns down in a bush fire sure you have insurance. so there is some money. but you need more then money to rebuild your life. you hope that can find the the strenght to rebuild. sure you can say Bugger it i will rebuild but you still have to conquer the emotional hurdle... hope can give you that. hope is not about sitting on ya arse
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