M56
IF REQUIRED
November 28 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
Means those people will bare-back with strangers which to us is pretty dodgy but hey thats only because we don't want to become disease riddled statistics.
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RHP User
14 years ago
They don't like wearing protection but will if you insist.Whenever i see that on a profile i always click next without another thought,as it tells me that they do not care about their own sexual health let alone yours.No Sex ,(no matter how good it may be) is worth dying for.Unsafe Sex is like playing Russian Roulette with your genitalia.Play Safe....not Stupid
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RHP User
14 years ago
Condoms are good....butt dont live in fairy land, Complete Safe Sex = No Sex and bodily contact with others. . Just saying be a realist. Have you seen the stats in the USA the biggest cause of STI leading to cancer / deaths in women....and there arnt a condom in the world that protects you from that one.
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wannabyummymummy
14 years ago
"if required' can mean a couple of things i have found.1) as previously stated can mean they dont wear them unless you insist on it (and like others have said for me that is a NEXT!!)2) in a couples situation sometimes if the lady has "always" and he has "if required" they could be referring to the fact that if he penetrates a woman other than his own partner then he will wear one (which is fair enough so well worth asking the question)I agree that condoms do not make sex 100% safe and yes there are a lot of nasties out there that are transmitted via oral but using a condom in conjunction with regular testing and risk management is definitely safer than nothing at all and in my view the only way to go. WBYM
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yes we realize 'doms fail and nothing is bulletproof. I'd rather a calculated risk than definately picking up the diseases of a bare-back enthusiast and everyone else that person has rolled in the hay with, ever. Doing that is like bare backing an unknown quantity of people. I have to think of people who would care so little of their own health...what else would that person get up to if they are willing to play roulette like that with my life and theirs and who knows how many others. Well to quote my high school sex Ed teacher back in the mid 90's....if its not on it's not on. Ever.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Look but don't touch...lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wow...go bare back and you will definately pick up a disease.... Silly comment. Guess they didnt look what actully is the biggest killer STI for women in the USA and no condom offers protection. We agree condoms are a must .....buttt dont live in make believe land.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Learn something every day. So barecack with untested partners.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It means if you are stupid enough not to insist that the guy wear a condom. He will slip it in without a condom if he can get away with it, because is "safe because I get checked monthly."
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RHP User
14 years ago
NEXT !!! Can't stand it when to have to ask ! We know some seasoned swingers who don't use condoms , so fricking stupid on my opinion ! This is one of the first things I check on profiles !
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RHP User
14 years ago
Why would we bother opening google for your stupid quiz time? I don't live in the USA and I don't care if flying nuns are there number 1 killer. And I am guessing you didn't google the meaning of calculated risk before huffing and puffing your way thru the thread, dumbarse.
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RHP User
14 years ago
If a guy has "If required" on his profile and registers to attend our parties we wont allow him to be accepted.Always put always for all activities if you are a single guy and want to get selected to attend our venue.Leesa
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RHP User
14 years ago
We know you are a bigger one.....lol Ample?
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RHP User
14 years ago
No gloving no loving... :p
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RHP User
14 years ago
Did you just do the rhp equivalent to I know you are, you said you are but what am I? That's awesome. Lol you guys are hilarious. Seriously I hope we are that funny when We're a few days off retirement too. To be honest the last post was just a wind up as it's always the same 10 people saying the same boring stuff over and over in this forum so you know, the obligatory shake up was in order. I mean it's hard enough to believe what most people here say, having been around a while and knowning the distinct smell of bs. (well not having been around as long as you guys if we are chucking out body-type funnies) However, and on a serious note.... Who are you, of such meglomaniac importance and with staunch desperation to be heard, that you think that anything you say is interesting enough to warrant anyone to even open a window and google what you are blabbering on about? Who cares what happens in America? Who cares if the answer was pop-tarts or I'll fitting shoes? How about just typing 'lifestyle choice affirming shit no one cares about' and be done with it. I dont get it. Are you a school teacher, does blathering on like a know it all come natural or do you just enjoy chiming in randomly to squirt irrelevant facts to the masses in order to justify your own tendencies or something? Or are you simply the pretentious Internet personality you appear to be. I mean everyone knows condoms aren't fool proof, even people like a hundred years younger than you know that. Is that your big point? Seriously, the thread is asking the meaning of statement. We state an opinion after the fact. No amount of American fact finding from some old guy Internet personality will change the fact that I and most decent folks think that it's off, gross and would turn our noses up at it. Google that fact. Maybe we can quantify this in a mathematical expression if this helps you. (Unprotected partner risk x everyone that person has ever been with x everyone those people have ever been with / the amount of lies they tell about having check ups, squared by the amount of people in the equation who are or were intravenous drug users) x the amount of sti's floating around the general population today to the square root of how small these circles really are= sick. Ample enough?
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RHP User
14 years ago
I know if some one is freely willing to admit it on there profile by using the words (If required) then there complacency is almost certain.What I would like to mention.Just becuse some one has (Always) Listed in there profile you cant be sure and you are still just taking thee word for it. They could be shagging there ass off in a Thai brothel all year unprotected and simply type "Always" in there profile.Like others have said given that nothing is 100% so on top of other precautions regular std testing is almost essential. Both Jane and I do this and we are glad our regular playmates do the same and are all open and honest enough to share the results openly with each other.Tim
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RHP User
14 years ago
Trust you feel better now. Read our posts we always agreed with you "USE CONDOMS". Your comments quote " we don't want to become disease riddled statistics. " Like yummymummy says condoms, regular testing, and we also add lifestyle choices. Thats why we dont play at clubs / parties / randoms we have not met previously. We want to see their profile as we will add: If they are looking for or have interests in high risk activities / inc relationship status, as well as the condoms thingie we will say "next". We consider: If a couple goes to parties and have 4-5 different partners on a weekly basis vs a couple that plays 3-4 times a year both with condoms ...there is a difference for us in calculated risk. "You can do much better than condoms by themselves." .... thats fairyland stuff. and "definately picking up the diseases of a bare-back enthusiast" Now the above is even a bigger exgaeration based on???? Where did you get that from? "That anyone who has had bare back sex is carrying diseases"
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RHP User
14 years ago
quote justenough: Thats why we dont play at clubs / parties / randoms we have not met previously. We want to see their profile as we will add: If they are looking for or have interests in high risk activities / inc relationship status, as well as the condoms thing we will say "next". We consider: If a couple goes to parties and have 4-5 different partners on a weekly basis vs a couple that plays 3-4 times a year both with condoms ...there is a difference for us in calculated risk. That's a really good point. Given that each time you have sex with a new person even fully protected you are still putting yourself at a very small risk of picking up something. Multiply that small risk by a lot of people and well you know the answer.We tend to do the same and take note of people who seem to be indulging in multiple new partners on a regular basis. This along side of lifestyle choices. Like people that involve heavy drinking or drugs while swinging. Both impeding some ones judgement when it comes to safety choices. We tend to steer clear of couples with bi males and couples that are just playmates. It might be discriminatory but we feel that wiping a few risk category's off the cards can just lower the risks a little before we even begin.I guess its a bit like what an insurance company would do putting together a risk profile.Tim
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hotjohn asked an extaordinarily simple question that was answered adequately within the first couple of posts. Justenough seems to be offering a counterpoint, without actually disagreeing with the majority view, suggesting that you have a greater probability of contracting a terminal disease naturally than you do of contracting a terminal illness through unsafe sex. Remember, the only trully reliable way to avoid STI's is abstinance. Condoms are recommended but not compulsory. I choose to use condoms with strangers, why take unnecessary risks, but this is still a matter of personal choice. People will often use US statistics in arguement simply because our lifestyles greatly mirror theirs while results of research carried out their is easily accessible and still relavent to Australians. Ctowntwo has been unnecessarily hostile and abusive. It's quite typical of people from lower income earning communities to carry a chip on their shoulders and attack others for daring to have an opinion that differs from their own but still, I need to ask, why? Please, chill out. Live and let live.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Lower income? Really? Lol I can't begin to tackle that nugget so won't even attempt it. No we aren't all chipped up over income and that has got to be the third dumbest comment I've read so far in the forums at least off the top of my head. I return douchebaggery with calling out douchebags. Want to scoff at my opinion directly as has been done in reply to our first post in the thread with no provocation? no problem. We can send that right back. Want to rumble again? You got it. Want to try and go personal and attack body types? Age before beauty grandad. Stating an opinion is stating an opinion. Quoting us and calling us all sorts of thick is lame. I don't know what world you guys live in but in ours things get called the way they are all day, every day and smug condescension gets returned with hostility and the contents of anyone's wallet is irrelevant.
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RHP User
14 years ago
omg a cat fight over condoms? we say no condom, no play, but are always aware that you have a much higher likelihood of contracting some insidious little bug through unprotetced oral sex......so we dont play with players, or people whose lives are driven by this 'play', and would never do a group evening or attend a venue, where you might be in contact with many, tho only play with 1......
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hottjohn
14 years ago
Well what a response for a SIMPLE question some people sound like there not having enough sex
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
It means these silly people are willing to risk their health & yours.... if someone messages us with that in their profile, it's an automatic ..no thanks! Then there are the profiles that have NEVER to the safe sex question...WTF is wrong with those fools????
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hotjohn says sound like some here are not having enough sex .... Like.....think you may well be right, we just cant get enough of each other, well we like that excuse...lol Butt Brett why call people silly and fools? its only going to provoke, even though its true! Mike there is no cat fight about using condoms, cant see anyone saying dont.
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RHP User
14 years ago
If you were to read my post again, Ctowndimwit, you would read that I didn'tcall you lower income earners, I correctly stated that you come from a lower income area. I am very familiar with your area as I was a former Macarthur resident and very grateful to move away. I was sick and tired of being accosted by people of your ilk. What I did accuse you directly of was being unnecessarilly hostile and abusive and suggested that you chill out. Instead you continue your aggressive stance, displaying your ignorance and constantly uttering ridiculous drivel. You can't even stop to find out who you're attacking. 'Grandad'!? I'm a female, moron.
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RHP User
14 years ago
We don't live in campbelltown. We live almost 3 hours away from campbelltown in Newcastle, which is nowhere near MacArthur. I had never heard of MacArthur until just now. Regardless of this it does not make your comments appear any less random and dense. Furthermore the grandad reference was not aimed at you but aimed at justenough. Read it again closely. After reading your response I really don't know what I can say. It would be funny if you weren't serious.... But apparently you are so I digress.... Justenough. We stand by all of our comments here. Bareback enough and the law of averages equates to you picking up diseases sooner or later. You can knit pick about bullet dodging, no problem, some may even get lucky enough to not get diseases but in this day and age it is doubtful. Furthermore googling american stats is a waste of time for a multitude of reasons. Firstly we have socialized health care systems. Americans do not. This makes health screening accessable to all. Early detection of cervical cancers and std's saves lives. We do not have 2 countries bordering our soil like America. One of those being Mexico, an impoverished nation with health care systems and social elements to match. Now much of the American statistics available online are gossly exaggerated by right wing lobby groups who want to promote abstinence by scare tactics. Not saying that the stats are faulse completely but how stretched are they? You would really need to check the credability of your sources instead of repeating everything you read. I really cannot believe any, let alone all of these things need to be spelled out to you publicly while you try to imply we are the idiots here. We also stand by our comment that you are nothing more than a smug Internet personality. Your response now just further proves our point. You should really stop sitting on here offering advice like some expert to people who may unfortunately be too green to know any better. As they say, when the blind lead the blind everyone falls down a great big ditch.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting '4HardnIntense'It means if you are stupid enough not to insist that the guy wear a condom. He will slip it in without a condom if he can get away with it, because is "safe because I get checked monthly." absolutely perfectly said! i think we get the meaning people!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
We hear what you are saying. Butt, When we quote what the Aus Govt sex clinic nurses congradulate us on with our safe sex choices, after studying or risk profile....young know it alls like you then say what you did. So guess Ctowntwo we are happy that you know it all....what say we leave as that.
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RHP User
14 years ago
My apologies. C'town is a common term applied to Campbelltown and I simply leapt to the conclusion from your unruly manner of expressing yourself. Inspite your vehement attacks on Justenough they never once contradicted your initial statements. Your more recent posting is closer to what they were trying to inspire, that being discussion, but everyone's point still eludes you. You have reseached your geography well enough and also pointed out my own geographical error, but you still stubbornly choose to ignore that our own health and lifestyle statics do (unfortunately) mirror that of the US. Further, with the exception of your first and last postings, you have been offensive. My mistake in your place of residence did not make me wrong in my comments on your antisocial behaviour. Try lifting your game a little. Big smiles all round.
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RHP User
14 years ago
i thought if required meant "if we get to penetration" ? You can do lots without need for protection. again ,talk to people and clear up any cloudy areas....before you start to play. we dont all read things the same it seems and rule Number 1 in swinging is allow others their own choice without shit canning them... is this a school playground? zzzz
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