RHP

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Just an opinion.

January 30 2018

This thread, as the topic title says is for sharing an opinion and if anyone wishes to post a reply or sharesome insight to a post or post an opinion about something themselves, we all learn something from different perspectives. I was visiting a shopping centre the other week as I was walking along two plain-clothed police ( possibly detectives ) and six about uniformed police went flying past me. I am glad I was up the opposite end of the centre away from the situation because of what could have been if it had been an entirely different outcome. I found out what happened as I spoke to some people who work at the centre. What bothers me is the language used in the headline: Firstly from what I was told there was no gun-wielding, ( the gun was fake, fortunately ) what bothers me is the term cross-dresser unless I am wrong I am coming from the platform that a cross-dresser is a male, ( if I am wrong about that I apologise I certainly don't want to offend anyone ) why didn't it just say a man was arrested.The reason I feel the way I do is because I believe the words/language and how it's used as to me it will keep sending the wrong message, it needs to change. With the plebiscite on the marriage equality postal survey being a success and everything that comes with that isn't there a need for the language and words to change not just in articles but during conversations too. As I have shared already, both my beautiful son and daughter are gay, so I am happy that they along with everybody else now have that equality 😊 I would also like to add I also believe there are many other ways we use language and words not related to the above that needs to change too.

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  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    What bothers me is the language used in the headline: "Gun Wielding" cross-dresser arrested at Melbourne mall. and meant to have been- about six uniformed police

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Rubi_Rose' What bothers me is the language used in the headline: "Gun Wielding" cross-dresser arrested at Melbourne mall. and meant to have been- about six uniformed police

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    The person arrested was male. Also meant - that the cross-dresser a was male

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I agree that headlines are sensationalised with irrelevant details regularly and that it should not be acceptable. I think this is journalist ethics issue and I strongly feel that an fair and balanced news media is fundamental to the proper functioning of our democracy and as such this is a serious issue that people who care about freedom and our democratic rights should take seriously and I commend you for speaking up about this. One question I have is; was the perpetrator of the crime actually cross-dressing as he committed the crime or was the perp just known or alleged to be a cross-dresser? If he was actually cross-dressing at the time then perhaps it could be argued that it was a relevant detail in the story. But I think using term "cross dresser" which implies a sexual kink rather than a cunning disguise is unethical as it unfairly associates cross-dressing with criminal behavior and hints that cross-dressing is some form of deviant behavior which is unjust to all law-abiding cross dressers. This irrelevant association is an all-to-common practice in our news media and, I believe, is used intentionally to manipulate public opinion on various matters. My opinion is that the news media should not seek to influence public opinion outside of opinion pieces and it definitely should not use surreptitious tactics to do so.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Newsbenders...

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Generally don't take the kink/swinger scene with a lot of respect. There was a news report a while back of armed police raiding a swinging club in Melbourne and shooting a guy! The presenters on the morning News were laughing about it! I get the feeling that any other club would have been taken more seriously

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    8 years ago

    Sensationalism sells - headlines are the immediate attention grabbers and when people walk past news stands (for example), it is the 'loudest' headline that will get the attention, and possibly the sale.Had a perfect example of this on the radio just this morning. A woman in Sydney saw a magazine headline abut Charles and Camilla divorced. She was in so much shock (she forgot to buy the mag) she called up her daughter in England to find out what it was all about. Found out of course no truth to the matter. Old school journalism at play - if you can't get sex into the picture, sensationalize it. Better still if you can fit both. Tall

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    8 years ago

    There was a recent cover headline on a women's magazine where it had 2 well known celebs pics on the cover with the words that they have found love. It was put together in a way that had it looking the 2 of them were together, one being the blonde vet, forget who the other was. My ex wife bought it for the story and found they had found love. Just not with each other. Headlines to sell but distort

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    What would you want the headline to be? * the person had what they wanted others to think was a real gun *the person was not concealing the ‘gun’, I was openly displayed * the person was identified as a cross dresser..... weren’t they appearing that way? * in this era it seems identifying people by their gender is an offence punishable by death and harassment on social media by those who take offence and faux outrage at pretty much everything So I’m curious as to what the alternative attention grabbing, but factual headline would be 🤔 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    8 years ago

    Cross-dressing and Trans persons. Because we are different to mainstream. It probably can still sell more papers. You don't get the papers with the headlines when a woman is arrested wearing a business suit or jeans and a t-shirt. But let's be clear, Cross-dressing is a fetish, Trans is not.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' Cross-dressing and Trans persons. Because we are different to mainstream. It probably can still sell more papers. You don't get the papers with the headlines when a woman is arrested wearing a business suit or jeans and a t-shirt.----- so true But let's be clear, Cross-dressing is a fetish, Trans is not. ----Thank you I just learnt something

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Need to clarify meant I knew Trans was not a fetish but I have now learnt that cross-dressing is.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    ...and got up your nose so the bullshit strategy worked! Sadly had the headline been about how many children died of starvation in Africa or even how many Aussie kids went to school without a decent breakfast? Yeah, you're right...no one would have read it. 😟😠😡 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I was just having an opinion that I believe with the times that, not just with the headline I mentionedbut that the words and language used in articles not just headlines, but in conversations too about a number of issues to me could do with a shift of some outdated attitudes/thinking,after all it is now 2018 don't we know enough by now for some sort of progress to start taking shape.It's not up to me to put come up with ideas for headlines, it's up to what each company's policy's are as well their morals and ethics. Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' What would you want the headline to be? * the person had what they wanted others to think was a real gun *the person was not concealing the ‘gun’, I was openly displayed * the person was identified as a cross dresser..... weren’t they appearing that way? * in this era it seems identifying people by their gender is an offence punishable by death and harassment on social media by those who take offence and faux outrage at pretty much everything So I’m curious as to what the alternative attention grabbing, but factual headline would be 🤔 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    as I said I happened to be visiting the shopping centre at the time it was taking place, and as I mentioned I spoke to some people who work at the centre so I know a little bit more than what was in the headline/article. I am glad that the gun was a fake otherwise it would have been a whole different situation with dire consequences and a major news story.BTW It's something that I have felt morally and ethically concerned about for a very long time, nothing to do with the headline. Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' ...and got up your nose so the bullshit strategy worked! Sadly had the headline been about how many children died of starvation in Africa or even how many Aussie kids went to school without a decent breakfast? Yeah, you're right...no one would have read it. 😟😠😡 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Yeah, you're right...no one would have read it. 😟😠😡 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    that I find concerning to CM what I notice these days is the way news is presented and how quickly it becomes old news.Also the order of and how stories are reported and the way to reporters sound scripted, fortunately there are some well written articles and stories reported by reporters who work for company's/ tv networks as well as the independent/ freelance reporters/ journalists. Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Sadly had the headline been about how many children died of starvation in Africa or even how many Aussie kids went to school without a decent breakfast? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I do look past a lot of mainstream media and try to seek out those kinds of indepentant stories/articles.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I am aware news readers/reporters do voice training. These days to me it just sounds blah blah and imo quite often it doesn't even hit the mark.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    as I said I was up the other end of the centre, I did think about following the police but thought better about doing that and am glad I didn't.From what the people I spoke to told me it appears the person was cross-dressing at the time they did share that he lives in one of the suburbs in the area and mentioned how he dresses and some other things they have noticed about him.I am in no place and won't make a judgement on anything I was told as I know nothing about the person.Some things I was told sadly has got me thinking he is not well, so if he needs help I hope he gets that assistance of course only if he wants any help and support that is offered.If you wish you can view the article yourself and come to your own opinion by what you read and see in pics. Quoting 'deepestpurple' One question I have is; was the perpetrator of the crime actually cross-dressing as he committed the crime or was the perp just known or alleged to be a cross-dresser?

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    is accredited to (Albeit - WRONGLY SO) Harry S. Truman in intercourse with General McCarthy in 1945, it STILL fucking holds true to bullshit on "Political Correctness" "Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by clean end!" IF in fact, a male, dressed as a female, holding and displaying ANY sort of Gun.. fake, edible OR real, was arrested in a Melbourne Mall, THEN it does ALSO hold true that "A cross-dresser wielding a gun was arrested in a Melbourne mall" The dopey fucker is lucky the fucken cops didn't shoot him dead..AND, I might add... "They SHOULD have"..Too much political correctness and "Go easy of fuckwits" happening in society today..OF course, this is MY opinion... as was asked for.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I agree a percentage of fuckwits need more than a slap on the wrist, but there are some fuckwits that do need to be supported and I'm not saying they shouldn't have consequences, but there are times that trying to assist them from falling completely through cracks might prevent things from escalating.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    I am very aware most perps are never truly remorseful they just play it to get off hopefully with a lighter sentence,that pisses me off. And like many I get really pissed off at a lot of sentences and always feel for the victims and their relatives when the justice is up shit creek.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Firstly I am glad he wasn't shot I would not have wanted to have walked along and been witness to the crime scene aftermath. Secondly it was of course still during school holidays and where it occurred which had a lot of shoppers ( it was in the market area ) I have little doubt of the impact to the shoppers and also the possibility considering there was a reasonable police presence shoppers could have been shot with the possibility of a fatality or two occurring. Quoting 'cavey50' The dopey fucker is lucky the fucken cops didn't shoot him dead..AND, I might add... "They SHOULD have"..Too much political correctness and "Go easy of fuckwits" happening in society today..OF course, this is MY opinion... as was asked for.

  • RHP

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    8 years ago

    Two out of three ain't bad, shame it wasn't a codeine addicted, gun wielding cross dresser. That would have given the Newsbenders a trifecta.