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Justice ?
June 27 2014
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is the answer here. He is a demonstrated recidivist sex offender, and has had his chances. That's justice for the community he preyed on. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
@ tristed mister Castration will not work. Sure, it will affect his hormones but it will not fix a broken mentality. Gaol, away form the community is the only option for two legged vermin such as this person. DFG
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RHP User
12 years ago
Agreed. No rehabilitation for this sort of person. Personally I think people that harm children in this manner should not be able to breathe the same air we do. However out laws seemed determined to protect the perpetrators not the victims. So.... Lock him up and throw away the key. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
A special prison, should be made for those that repeat an offence that take the liberty, life or peace from another in those circumstances............. The horrible truth is that the amount of 'abuse' these offenders get inside the jail, makes their situation worse, most times to the point of no return to society should be considered..
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madotara69
12 years ago
Put them in the main population in the prisons and guaranteed they will not offend again. Mado Mado Tara xx
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MissBishere
12 years ago
I agree Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sorry to interrupt. Just wanted to ask if DFG stands it damn fucking good! :p
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RHP User
12 years ago
So I guess my thing is against not so much just the crime committed or the person who committed it but the seriousness of how it is taken by the people who have the power of judgement compared to tbe people the crimes were committed against.
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Smilingwithfun
12 years ago
In the USA Judges up to a certain level have to be relected to there position. Here in Australia, once appointed they are there for life. No answering to the people, so they become immune to society. High wages, no accountability, good job, if you can get it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
These people do not want to live by the laws placed for civil people so when will the LAW makers wake up too this. We the people need to send a clear message to the pollies to do something or we will put someone else in thier place that will protect our children,family members and those who are unable to help themselves. Enough is enough stand up place perssure on your local member to do something or we will elect someone who will.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Agree Mrs Peachy And what really got to me, apart from what this slimeball did, was that the judge stated that this guy will probably reoffend but he had to release him as his hands were "tied" due to the current laws Like WTF ? change the f****** laws Am I the only one getting that?, is that not what we elect our politicians to do? Agree Nigel And what about the victims and the ones that didn't/couldn't come forward, what about their rights ? Meeka, I was wondering what DFG stood for too, or are they all just located next to each other on the keyboard :-) How do you space on these forums ???
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Bigmamma1' A special prison, should be made for those that repeat an offence that take the liberty, life or peace from another in those circumstances............. The horrible truth is that the amount of 'abuse' these offenders get inside the jail, makes their situation worse, most times to the point of no return to society should be considered.. It would IMO be bad karma to wish upon anyone the horror we wouldn't wish upon anyone.
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RHP User
12 years ago
For why it's important to change the law is Daniel Morcombe,his killer had raped a child before and had , I think attempted to murder him....that child is now a grown man and of course totally traumatised still....Daniel would no doubt still be alive if the courts had acted according to the crime committed....he would still be in jail Q
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Changing laws may help. I believe before anything...is to highly educate young children, with very highlight being "grooming" stages, starting in prep or early education years in the school systems. Young children are too vulnerable and innocent to be exposed to such horrible abuse in the community, with educating "grooming" it may change the future, as schools are are starting point for these sick people. Most of the time the innocent children know the person, which makes it even more frightening. :((((( As for those who have done the crime...I agree with Bigmumma. :) Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
He is a serial offender, someone who will never stop. I'm sick of my taxes paying for facilities and salaries on a system that doesn't work. Let's be honest here I'd rather him be dead so we don't have to worry about him committing more crimes. People like him need to disappear, I'm sick of all these do gooders telling me he still has rights! The moment you commit crimes like he has including other such crimes and higher wave those rights. So many of them out there who are protected and they already look for their next victim. Were just dumb enough to keep letting it happen
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MissBishere
12 years ago
For simpleneeds 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍 But I recently watched a doco on capital punishment and there was this man who had been found guilty and given the death penalty and it turned out he was innocent of all crimes they had the wrong man. I'm this instance he wasn't killed BUT begs the question what happens if they get it wrong? As a parent i want them to all die I don't think they have a place in our society and if it was my child I honestly think I would kill the person responsible and happily do my time in prison. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
Handing him over to the family members of the victims, that seems like justice to me.... I'm really not sure how on earth anyone can put a time frame for the incarceration of someone who has repeatedly fucked up, taken a child's childhood, or destroyed someones life. Australia's judicial system has failed so many and really needs a serious overhaul badly......👎
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RHP User
12 years ago
was effected by the murder of Sarah Cafferkey. I didn't really know her, I had met her, but she was friend of my sister and brother. Same thing, guy was a repeat violent offender as was Jill Maher's killer. I don't know how many times we have to hear about these people being let back into society and the 'conditions', well they aren't going to stop anyone doing what they really want to do. It is like restraining orders, not worth the paper they are written on.
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RHP User
12 years ago
...wasting tax payers hard earnt dollars for what??. I would rather my taxes go to those, who are really in need.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Who is anyone to wish death/life upon another? ... Sorry that does not fit well in my eyes.. Wishing death upon someone, well I wouldn't think/wish that on my own worst enemy. I think taking life as electric chair, hanging etc etc, whatever it be, it's not right as I tend to believe ALL humans have a right to life.. Even tho a person may take someone else's life or innocence- it's not up to the public to decide- give them a choice I say, put the owners back onto the person. Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Who is anyone to wish death/life upon another? ... Sorry that does not fit well in my eyes.. Wishing death upon someone, well I wouldn't think/wish that on my own worst enemy. I think taking life as electric chair, hanging etc etc, whatever it be, it's not right as I tend to believe ALL humans have a right to life.. Even tho a person may take someone else's life or innocence- it's not up to the public to decide- give them a choice I say, put the owners back onto the person. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
With capital punishment....but life in prison meaning just that Q
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RHP User
12 years ago
If you commit such heinous crimes then you have chosen already to give your life up. Why house these monsters and "rehabilitate" them back into main stream society. They fuck up innocent peoples lives for ever! The perpetrator does not care - they are incapable. I do understand and respect opinions of others. I once thought "right to live" as well.
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
And perpetrators they are and you're right they're incapable of caring or remorse, it's a disease that can't be cured, hence why they are repeat offenders, still think handing them to the families of victims and letting them deciding their fate is a good idea.....
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Sometimes, repeat offenders have been abused themselves (mentally and physically), sometimes by close family members (patents) to them that is all they know... It's a psychological abuse cycle that goes from generation to generation..sometimes that's all people know how to treat others....."some" cases are quiet sad, if you hear about their childhood abuse. It's still no excuse tho to take away young vulnerable children's innocence. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta3' With capital punishment....but life in prison meaning just that Q They are just oxygen thieves. My taxes can better help the homeless than some fucker in jail for life.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Sometimes, repeat offenders have been abused themselves (mentally and physically), sometimes by close family members (patents) to them that is all they know... It's a psychological abuse cycle that goes from generation to generation..sometimes that's all people know how to treat others....."some" cases are quiet sad, if you hear about their childhood abuse. It's still no excuse tho to take away young vulnerable children's innocence. Foxy Use them for science experiments instead of poor innocent animals.
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
Yes it's sad, but under no circumstance should it be used as an excuse, it doesn't give them the right and you can't let your past defined who you are and the choices you make as an adult. Try and use that for an excuse to the victims and their families, who have to deal with it and live with it..... We as adults have the ability to change, improve, enhance and grow into who we want to be. We all make choices and I'm sorry but to choose a life of pure evil, well quite frankly it's a bad choice......Consequences for your actions......
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RHP User
12 years ago
You took the words right out of my mouth........ It is only unfortunate that we do not have the resources or systems to be able to put in place somewhere where rehabilitation can be utilised at the appropriate times......... We, today take note of signs and symptoms given at schools etc, that shows something is not right in the child's environment....... We as a society let them down by not provided the counselling and resources at THIS moment, rather than wait and say, we will see what happens.
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RHP User
12 years ago
There are homeless people who seriously need housing , medication, food. Hospitals are short of beds, equipment staff..Police services are under funded..the list goes on and on.. Just put the fuckers to death , save millions.. Yeah sure we can feel sorry for them and release them but what about their victims? Chances are they will rape or murder again..What about their victims? dont they deserve protection? Dont hard working Australians deserve protection from these assholes? Who cares if they had a tough life..who hasn't? Its no excuse to do what they do..
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Sorry to interrupt. Just wanted to ask if DFG stands it damn fucking good! :p I'll get back to you on that one.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Missb72' For simpleneeds 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍 But I recently watched a doco on capital punishment and there was this man who had been found guilty and given the death penalty and it turned out he was innocent of all crimes they had the wrong man. I'm this instance he wasn't killed BUT begs the question what happens if they get it wrong? As a parent i want them to all die I don't think they have a place in our society and if it was my child I honestly think I would kill the person responsible and happily do my time in prison. - Posted from rhpmobile Since 1991 the Innocence Project has freed over 300 people that were falsely incriminated. The law would rather commit a type II error and exonerate a person from a crime they committed than a type I error which would see an innocent person falsely incriminated. For this reason I have mixed feelings towards capital punishment because I am a parent and also a victim of a violent crime. I'm with you Missb, if it was any of my children I would have no hesitation in taking matters into my own hands.
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RHP User
12 years ago
People are going to begin to take matters into their own hands if the law doesn't start to keep these animals in check. After the armed hold ups at work, my eldset son was checking out weapons online for me. He wanted to buy me a gun. I told him that was not necessary because if I had one, I would probably use it and then I would be the one sent away for defending myself so it wasn't even worth it.
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tamworthguy46
12 years ago
I think I am indeed in favour of capitol punishment, but only where there is no dispute of ones guilt, why ....because some people are just pure evil, and due to their actions they don't have a right to live in society in any capacity..... and the rest well, life in prison, should mean that they die in there.......... I have also always told my children that you are responsible for your actions, everyone can think of endless excuses why people have done this and that ....it doesn't change the fact.....that the deed has been done, and sometimes redone..... does it ?......and there is a price to be paid for everything. Just my opinion ...Tam
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RHP User
12 years ago
Bottom line, he should not be freed if he still poses a danger to society. In thise case, women and children must be protected. Whilst he may have served a sentence for the crimes he committed, the law has a duty to protect in such cases. There are types of crime that exceed a normal view of punishment and go beyond the need for retribution or reformation of character, but puts others at risk. In such cases a sentence is only a number, but the risk is that great it overwhelms a normal right to freedom for a normal crime.
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madotara69
12 years ago
A man that rapes a nine year old girl, has a putrid and twisted mind, they don't become rehabilitated, more so only institutionalised,in and out of prison each time they re-offend is nothing for them. While they are in prison they are under strict protection, separated from anyone other than the same type of offenders and they get sent to country prison farms while living quite a comfortable life inside. But what right do they have for hanging on to those memories that give them such pleasure? I personally don't believe they deserve to have the privilege for an active conscience and modern medicine should be able to remedy that.
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