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Let's look at some of the words we use that cause contention.
March 10 2012
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RHP User
14 years ago
That of superiority or condescention? Confidence in your stand perhaps? Vehement defense underfire (usually my downfall but not unjustified)? Maybe simple shit stirring, hey?
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RHP User
14 years ago
There are other senses of those words and most word's that vary from dictionary to dictionary. Senses that are often conflicting and sometimes contradictory. Let alone from one person's interpretation to another- it makes it hard to translate and understand messages especially through a screen. That's why I try and clarify that I am taking it right and do my best to make it clear.Another sense of 'judgemental' 1. of or denoting an attitude in which judgements about other people's conduct are made.Another sense of 'opinion' 2. a personal view, attitude or appraisal.English is a really hard language to learn even if it's your1st.'Judgement' is simply in one sense of the word 'the opinion formed' so you would then think/judge/form opinion that someone 'judgemental' is someone that forms opinion and it's neutral but no it gets a negative attached to it because of the the "stupid" "moron's" that make form crap opinions in masses!!!My favourite misnomer is what is thought to be sarcasm but which is actually irony- sarcasm is never meant as a playful joke.... the whole point is to insult and ridicule, mock in a nasty way- I am rarely sarcastic..... I am often ironic :)Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
"Personal veiw, attitude or apraisal" still describes opinion as making a personal judgement. Dictionaries often vary in their description of a definition but that doesn't really change the meaning of the word itself and I haven't come accross any that trully contradict another. Look up 'beautiful' in any dictionary and while the words may vary, they will all describe you.
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RHP User
14 years ago
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RHP User
14 years ago
I meant contradiction in the senses of definitions within the 1 dictionary...... as in when there is like 10 different meanings of a word and some of them do not make sense in relation to each other or even oppose.And from dictionary to dictionary there is confusion because of what is said in some and not said in others (when condensed) Some definitions elaborate more indicating an aspect of the definition that is absent in others. The definition I found for 'opinion' does not at all refer to 'resting on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty', so one could assume if reading mine that it is an opinion can be congruent with fact/ certainty as it neither accepts nor rejects it.:) Hmmmmm beautiful = attractive/ pleasing, thanks but it's a double edged sword.... sometimes I am down right painful- just ask my man ;)Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Oblivious - unmindful; unconscious; unaware Opinionated - obstinate or consceited with regard to the merit of one's own opinion; conceitedly dogmatic
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RHP User
14 years ago
You must be very familiar with it. A few more for you: Obnoxious - annoying or objectionable due to being a show off or attracting undue attention to one's self Dismissive - indicating lack of interest or approbation; scornful; distainful Pompous - characterised by an ostentatious display of dignity or importance Pretentious - full of pretense or pretension
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RHP User
14 years ago
Please excuse my ignorance, I'm not yet very internet savy. I've seen you use 'imo' before but I'm not familiar with it. What does it mean?
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RHP User
14 years ago
It isn't the words. Most people will hear a word, and regardless of what your dictionary meanings are going to be, there will be a general consensus of what that word means. The generally accepted meaning of a word is what makes a word meaningful.Generally people are pretty crap at communicating with the written word. You'd think with the advent of the internet and so much online interaction that we would have become better at it, but no, we've just become better at littering a page with emoticons to try and put tone and context into what we're saying.With most opinion based discussion there is a way of sharing your opinion in a non-confrontational way. It's when people try and justify their opinion that the most trouble starts.For example. "I like cats". Great! Thanks for sharing that. "I like cats, dogs are slobbering stupid animals who are to dumb to look after themselves". Um, ok, way to go piss off the entire dog loving population of a forum.Something a bit more relevant. "I like tattoos". Sweet. Me too! I especially have a thing for tribal work. "I dislike tattoos. I much prefer bare skin". Thanks for sharing, I don't agree but I understand where you're coming from."I hate tattoos and the people who have them are unemployable psycho feral criminals". Well, we know what happens then.So, I understand everyone loves to share an opinion, but to justify you're own preferences there is no need to be judgemental of opinions that aren't your own.
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RHP User
14 years ago
RHP we need an edit function. *your
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RHP User
14 years ago
The Microsoft 9mm hand gun or the Mac 'Mini-Gun'.
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RHP User
14 years ago
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RHP User
14 years ago
I more often hear "shouldn't".
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RHP User
14 years ago
Except when the general consensus is a misconception and then to me it renders the word meaningless.Jensman some words from me-Literal.Pedantic.Highfalutin.Funny how the synonym's of a word are a confusing mix of good and bad WTF??? It baffles me.Ha Mrs PP I thought IMHO was 'honest' opinion and a word for you.....could :)Quoting 'Polar_Bear_Grrr' It isn't the words. Most people will hear a word, and regardless of what your dictionary meanings are going to be, there will be a general consensus of what that word means. The generally accepted meaning of a word is what makes a word meaningful.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It's been said many times, in many ways. A person can be intelligent but people are stupid. A consensus on something does not inherently make that thing correct. Look at how many people are adamant about gay marriages being wrong. They can give you any number of reasons for their belief that it is wrong and even after you decimate their arguements, they will cling to their beliefs and end up attacking you for your audacity in opposing what they "know" to be right. A general consensus of the meaning of a word, does not alter that word's definition, it simply makes that particular group of people wrong. Never forget, once upon a time, everyone "knew" that the Earth was flat and that the Sun circled around us.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I love words....I love how they look flowing from my fingers...I love how we can stroke people with our words,I love the sound of words.....all the ssssss ....the soft syllables.....and the rrrrrrrrr and the ttttttttttttttt .....I am a big fan of irony.....not ironing though hate that..........words are quite simply wonderful ........like silence too....the spaces between words .
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RHP User
14 years ago
I've been getting into more trouble for being pedantic about the correct use of a word. "Racism". It seems that very few people really understand the word or even the concept. BAs this other thread progressed, it was asserted that I was racist for trying to define the word. Sexist too, for disagreeing on the subject with a couple of women. Apparently, judging from some other posts, all you have to do is recognise a different skin colour to be racist. Pretty sad really.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Racism...a deeply held belief that a person from another race is inferior .Racism is,predjudice,discrimination,antagonism towards another, based on this belief. Chauvinist....a person who is inconsiderate of ,or prejudiced against another of a different sex, nationality or culture .x Hugs
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QLDtwo4fun
14 years ago
"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master— that's all."
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RHP User
14 years ago
IGNORANUS adj. Someone who is both stupid & an asshole.
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RHP User
14 years ago
LMAO Mik....you is a funny man....purdy too...IMOx Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
was laffin soooo hard forgot ya E....so here it is
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Hesione' was laffin soooo hard forgot ya E....so here it is ta....gotta have that 'E'....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Sex /seks/ (noun): 1. waaay more fun to talk about than what's wrong with how people talk in the forum2. waay more fun to think about than how to make the forum 'a better place' for people who spend too much time thinking about the forum.xx Sarah
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RHP User
14 years ago
...to be too fernickity about wordsBut I do like the word procrasturbation....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Throw some of that lovely sex my way. I'm sure you can distract me from these pages for a minute or two.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear' Way more fun to do... than talk or think about! But then one wouldn't be on the forum at the time, I'd hope
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RHP User
14 years ago
...a shot of it and gash the bad thing is a good word too. | Let's talk about S-E-X | | See you next Tuesday sexy!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' Throw some of that lovely sex my way. I'm sure you can distract me from these pages for a minute or two. How'd you know I have a premature ejaculation fetish?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Context Intention Interpretation Grammar!!! Clarity Phsycolinguistics Use of negatives
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MissSarahCurious' How'd you know I have a premature ejaculation fetish? More of an attention deficet. Umm, what were we talking 'bout???
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RHP User
14 years ago
Marriage :p
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' I've been getting into more trouble for being pedantic about the correct use of a word. "Racism". It seems that very few people really understand the word or even the concept. BAs this other thread progressed, it was asserted that I was racist for trying to define the word. Sexist too, for disagreeing on the subject with a couple of women. Apparently, judging from some other posts, all you have to do is recognise a different skin colour to be racist. Pretty sad really. No - I called you sexist because you specifically replied to two women and proceeded to call us hysterical, when neither of our responses indicated anything of the kind. An inherently sexist comment, that you can't see that doesn't mean that it wasn't.
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RHP User
14 years ago
...but you are wrong. I was describing the use of the word, "racism", where it clearly wasn't warranted as an over reaction, ie. hysteria, and I would have written the same thing had I been corresponding with a male. There was no sexism in it at all. Calling me racist and sexist for daring to disagree with a female definitely strikes me as a hysterical response. Sorry, I calls 'em as I see 'em.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' ...but you are wrong. I was describing the use of the word, "racism", where it clearly wasn't warranted as an over reaction, ie. hysteria, and I would have written the same thing had I been corresponding with a male. There was no sexism in it at all. Calling me racist and sexist for daring to disagree with a female definitely strikes me as a hysterical response. Sorry, I calls 'em as I see 'em. Except Jensman, you called me hysterical before I even directed comments at you other than saying that copying and pasting dictionary definitions wasn't really contributing to th discussion (which I still maintain it wasn't). That was hardly hysterical. When did you last call a man hysterical? Considering in Victorian times women were treated for "hysteria" and that the word itself is innately tied to the uterus (hystera=uterus in Greek) then it was completely sexist, whether or not that was your intention. I called you sexist for that which was directed to me and I called you racist for your other comments on that thread.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It's shot down the post I was about to make however it in no way indicates a sexist attitude on my part. I was unaware of the origins of the word, only it's definition which is, "an uncontrolable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterised by irrationality, laughter, weeping etc." Lets face it, ignoring the definition of a word and then insisting to use it incorrectly is irrational. The use of the term, "racism" was, as I have stated, an over reaction. I willingly admit my use of the word hysteria was an exageration but it was my intent to indicate how the attitude you and lil_bit_angelic exhibited is very much a precursor to mass hysteria, "a condition affecting a group of persons, characterised by excitement or anxiety, irrational behaviour or beliefs, or inexplicable symptoms of illness." Whenever you start accusing people of a crime (racism is a crime) and rallying people to an unjust cause, you are creating a potential environment for mass hysteria. I never lived in "Victorian" times so I was unaware of the words history and I'm grateful to become aware of it however, in modern times, for "hysteria" to be inherently sexist would mean that only women are capable of it. I certainly don't believe this. Do you? To be sexist, a person must believe that their gender is superior to the opposite. I don't believe this. Do you? To be racist, a person must believe that persons of a race other than their own are inferior. I don't believe this either. Do you? I challenge you to quote a single thing I've ever written that is racist. It's obvious that my inclusion of the definition was warranted as you and others still don't understand the concept.
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RHP User
14 years ago
As you've pointed out to me the significance that "hysteria" holds to you as a woman, I apologise for using it and retract it from my statement. However, "ignorance" and "intolerance" still stand.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Which is what you are beginning to sound like Jensman.
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RHP User
14 years ago
"Supercilious" I'll have to go and look that one up.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I know it's difficult to tell in a post as a person's facial expressions aren't visible and the tones of their voice are not heard but neither of these words apply to me. con·de·scend·ing /ˌkɒndəˈsɛndɪŋ/ Show Spelled<kon-duh-sen-ding> Show IPA adjective showing or implying a usually patronizing descent from dignity or superiority: They resented the older neighbors' condescending cordiality. I trully don't believe I'm a superior person. I do believe that there are inferior people but I don't count Polar_Bear_Grrr as such. su·per·cil·i·ous /ˌsupərˈsɪliəs/ Show Spelled<soo-per-sil-ee-uhs> Show IPA adjective haughtily disdainful or contemptuous, as a person or a facial expression. Similarly, I have no contempt for her. Actually, I like her, it's just that, in this instance, I disagree with her.
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RHP User
14 years ago
ONOMATOPOIEA....always gives me a buzz....rolls off the tongue..love is soft in sound...hate is sooooo very harshx Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Hesione'ONOMATOPOIEA....always gives me a buzz....rolls off the tongue..love is soft in sound...hate is sooooo very harshx Hugs H on·o·mat·o·poe·ia /ˌɒnəˌmætəˈpiə, ‐ˌmɑtə‐/ Show Spelled<on-uh-mat-uh-pee-uh, ‐mah-tuh‐> Show IPA noun 1. the formation of a word, as cuckoo, meow, honk, or boom, by imitation of a sound made by or associated with its referent. 2. a word so formed. 3. the use of imitative and naturally suggestive words for rhetorical, dramatic, or poetic effect.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Racism isn't a crime (would our legal system be able to handle it if it was!). Racial vilification is, and discrimination based on race is, but you know, people can be racist all they want to be. Of course, you called me hysterical before I called you racist (and I think you may or may not be, it's hard to tell from forum posts, but you say you're not, so we'll go with that), and based on that, and the connotations associated with that word usage, and that it was directed at two women, I did see red when I typed that response. However, before wheeling that out (and I do apologise for the racist comment, I was looking for cheap points ~shame faced~) all I had done was dispute that adding definitions didn't really contribute to the conversation, especially as it had moved at that point from Tim's original post. That point, and also saying how I find myself occassionally behaving in ways that I don't like and I modify this behaviour/thought processes and that it was funny how it was mainly white guys saying that what Tim was perceiving as racism (and he later changed his wording), wasn't. None of that was directed at you, none of it showed any intolerance.So to reach hysterical, ignorant and intolerant from that posting, well, yeah. You saw what I think about that.It's not often I get riled up, but you managed in a scant few lines! I have to admit it was a bit of fun.
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RHP User
14 years ago
You got me again. I started this thread to encourage people to be more careful of their word usage and comprehension and you've caught me out again for being guilty of poor word usage myself. What I meant was that racism is criminal behaviour not an indictable crime. My bad. Now let me ask you, what is it about the white men disagreeing with the claim of racism. Does it say to you that these men are racist and trying to cover up? All it tells me is that we are in Australia and there are a lot of white Australian males on adult dating sites.
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RHP User
14 years ago
'Bitchitude'................when 'attitude' simply isn't enough...........
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' You got me again. I started this thread to encourage people to be more careful of their word usage and comprehension and you've caught me out again for being guilty of poor word usage myself. What I meant was that racism is criminal behaviour not an indictable crime. My bad. Now let me ask you, what is it about the white men disagreeing with the claim of racism. Does it say to you that these men are racist and trying to cover up? All it tells me is that we are in Australia and there are a lot of white Australian males on adult dating sites. White men do, even though a lot would disagree, have the most amount of inherant privilege in this society we live in. Sure you're going to get the guys complaining about family law court rulings, but the very fact of being a white male in Australian society means they have many more opportunities available to them than anyone else, even white women. Of course, white women have innate privilege as well, except those within child-bearing age, it kind of gets a bit iffy then when it comes to employment, but in other instances it's the same between men and women. It's really basic stuff. If someone asks you where you're from, you think immediately to where you grew up, say Manly. For anyone non-white the question refers to their ethnicity, even if they too were born in Manly and their parents too were born in Manly. A white man by himself in town on a Saturday morning will find it easier to catch a cab than a man of any other colour, although, in this example, the privilege belongs to the woman, because a single white woman will flag down that cab before anyone else.That's why it was amusing. The people most unable to determine whether or not something is/isn't racsist or prejudicial are also those most unable to comprehend it, due to the status they have in our society, yet that was the majority of people commenting on that post. (Which had nothing to do with preference as some people have since mentioned). It doesn't mean that they themselves are racist, it was just an observation.
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RHP User
14 years ago
...but I do admire the way you express yourself when you're not riled up. The status of white men in Australian society does not mean that they can not comprehend it nor does it mean that they are safe from it. There are a great many people who have suffered racial offences from white Australian men and therefore believe all are racist. This belief gives rise to a racial predjudism in themselves. There are others who come to our country with preconceived beliefs of their superiority to whites. Believe me, I know what predjudism is and I have been a victim of it. It's sad but inevitable. I've met Indians who believe in their superiority, usually older people who were brought up when the cast system in India was still influencial but I know that not all indians are like that. I've been attacked by Australian Aborignals but I don't believe that they all hate whites. I've been the victim of a Lebanese gang and yet the two best friends I've ever had have both been Lebanese.
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RHP User
12 years ago
And, time to add a word, COUGAR, that one should not utter for fear of bringing down the ire of RHP women on one's head... because the fact that you used it means something to them and no denying on your behalf is going to change their point of view. It could, after all, be the end of the world. LOL
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