tcm70

tcm70

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My last puff

September 12 2018

I could be opening myself up for some vitriol here, but in this case I believe I can use any negativity as a positive drive for me. Haters will hate, I’m hoping for mainly some positive inspiration tho. So, I’ve been a smoker for about 30 years now. Yes I’m one of those evil social lepers. I show it on my profile so I’m not avoiding the fact. I’ve had it in mind for a long time now to quit, but tomorrow becomes the next day etc etc. The prices have just gone up again, quite significantly and it’s really jarred me into wanting to quit. I know there’s the obvious health reasons and others, but as I don’t “suffer” from any effects as yet from smoking, it’s not in my face and reminding me. Whereas this latest price rise has irked me enough to say enough is enough. The last week or so I’ve been cutting down and watching my habit/times. And have been using a couple of nicobate mints to see how they go and to prepare my mind to use them as a helpout. Has anyone else kicked the habit? What methods did you use. What advice can you give? And secondary to this, not that this is my reason for wanting to quit, but I do see a lot of women not wanting to meet smokers at all, adamantly written in their profiles. I’ve always respected that and never approached them, however, in their view, what would be an acceptable time frame of not smoking to be able to class myself as a non smoker on my profile? I’m always going to be honest about my status and as such will not be changing my status simply upon quitting. Any input will be much appreciated.

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I gave up smoking when I was 33. My trick was to go jogging around the block after work each day...so I'd be puffing and sucking for air. Maybe because I had asthma as a child. After that, the last thing I wanted was a smoke. It worked for the 3 months I needed to break the addiction. That, and it was firmly fixed in my mind by then that I didn't want to die young from something I could prevent.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    It's not easy but it is do-able.Giving up the durries is one of the few smart things I've done.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    you have my complete support in this I know you and I know you will do this xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Mare great to hear you have given up, I quit about 3 months ago and driving to work one day I said I want to quit. I did use champix because I really wanted to quit and did not want to go back to it. Three key things that helped me were, knowing when you smoked and do something in that period which is get up and walk around, chew gum. Secondly and most important is support, make sure you have support and people know you have given up so that they give you positive reinforcement and finally commit to not going back. Out of interest how much is a pack now of what you smoked ?? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    People are allowed to have a choice without being called a hater 🙄 I gave up the day l found out l was pregnant, guessing that's not an option.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    My relationship with the ciggies is one of love/hate. I genuinely love smoking cigarettes, which is always hard for non-smokers to get their head around, but when everything is all good ciggies are one of my best friends. When I say ''things are all good'' I mean that I am not smoking too much. I am only about 6-8 a day and like you TCM it does not affect my health very much at all. Having said that, I have long since forgotten what it was like to not smoke so perhaps I am deluding myself, perhaps I would feel a million bucks without the smokes compared to what I feel now. I am all about balance, so to balance the smoking out I eat well and exercise regularly. Having said all of that, I would love to quit smoking and have tried in the past. I haven't in many years as I knew I was kidding myself. I found the patches were awesome but gave me really horrid dreams (which they say is an urban myth but it certainly was true for me). Of course they have lozenges, gum, wafers, condoms all infused with nicotine now so curing the craving for nicotine is a lot simpler than having to slap a patch on and wait. Curing the habit though, that's the worst part - beer at the end of the day, crowd-watching with a beer at the pub, by a pool with a beer and a good book (do you see a trend with beer forming here?). No way on gods green earth am I quitting beer, and ciggies are a fine complement to beer. My job, when it is not busy is actually very boring and affords many opportunities to relieve the boredom with a quick ciggie (no beer though sadly). These sorts of factors have always been what has caused my wagon-falling in the past, to the point that I no longer entertain the thought of quitting. Good luck with your epic journey TCM, and to me it is an epic journey - it would be the biggest of my life were it me - and do try not to murder someone. I for one could think of at least 8 people at my work who had best give me a wide berth should I ever try to quit the cigs.

  • Supernova

    Supernova

    7 years ago

    Well done on making the attempt to quit. When I quit smoking a year or so ago, I found a method that worked for me... It might not work for you, but it can be worth trying. As smokers know, it's often about certain triggers and habits that make us smoke, as much as the cravings, so when I quit, I purchased a Vape pen from a tobacconist (you can also find plenty of varieties online). Now you might be thinking "But isn't vaping just swapping cigarettes for another *kind* of smoking?" Initially, yes, but the thing to remember is this: Vaping is far less toxic, much much cleaner, and also doesn't involve any nicotine. You CAN get E-Juice with nicotine in them, but I wouldn't recommend this, as part of the addiction to smoking is because of nicotine. I know some friends who are literally addicted to patches and chewing gum years and years after they quit smoking. The problem for them, is that they still have their nicotine addiction, and now if they don't have a gum or patch handy, they start to crave a smoke again. So, I carried a vape-pen around when I quit, using menthol E-juice (as it's kinda like a menthol-cigarette!) and whenever I felt like a smoke, I just used the vape for a few minutes. What that does, is get you through THAT craving, as you "simulate" smoking...and then you'll find, a few moments later, you'll be distracted by something, or need to go somewhere, do something at work, get lunch, whatever...and all of the sudden, you've beaten another craving! As the weeks go by, using the vape instead of the cigarette, the nicotine will have completely left your system, and all of the sudden you won't have the cravings for a cigarette anymore. And as more weeks go by, you'll find yourself "in the clear" so to speak. You won't have nearly as many cravings - if any- and you'll also start to see your vape as pointless, because the vape has no real addictive chemicals or qualities. I just used it in those initial weeks to ween me off smoking, and I must say it worked a treat. So maybe consider purchasing a vape-pen? Choose some fun flavors, and use it to get you through the cravings in those difficult first few weeks! Soon after, you will ditch the Vape-pen as well, which is easy as you won't actually be addicted to it. Patches and nicotine gum / spray etc does work for some people, but unfortunately it keeps the nicotine in your bloodstream, and hence when you ditch those, cravings can come back (as I've witnessed with some of my mates) Good luck!

  • Supernova

    Supernova

    7 years ago

    Exercise, Exercise, Exercise! Makes you feel good, releases positive endorphins, a natural high, lower blood pressure, lose some weight (Or gain muscle), and help you to sleep better at night... Absolutely - joining a gym and begin exercising, it will certainly help.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Hey, we are one of those couples who avoid smokers. If you have given up and the smell is no longer noticeable we are happy to play... The smell is what turns us off, so a vape pen wouldn't be an issue for us. I would say a week, not that we would be interrogating you about it. Good luck giving up love kitty

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    7 years ago

    26 years ago i gave up ,3 packs a day cold turkey ,,when it went from may be a health hazard to confirmed is a health hazard ,well done giving up has to start somewhere and you are making the first steps , and that step is the big one ,if you slip up don’t throw the attempt away just keep on going , you can do it , mr b - Posted from rhpmobile

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    7 years ago

    to work out how much i have saved ,on packs of peter jackson 30s costing $2.50 a pack when i gave up from recollection ,it never kept track of when they went up in price at all ,but wow those buggers are expensive now 😳 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    At a rough calculation you’ve not spent $71,220 on smokes based on $7.50 per day for 365 days x 26 years plus 6 full days as every 4 years is a leap year... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • tcm70

    tcm70

    7 years ago

    Thanks so much everyone for all your words. I havnt had time to go thru everything fully yet. But very flattered by all the positive vibes. I’ll sit down a bit later and have a more thorough perusal and I’ll work out my maths to. Thanks again to all of you. 👍🏽

  • BungCpl

    BungCpl

    7 years ago

    I decided it was time to give up 8 years ago, that was after smoking fuultime for over 20 years. As for how I gave up, I read the Allen Carr book called ‘The easy way to stop smoking’ it’s an interesting read, you keep smoking as you read it and he makes you realise that you don’t really like smoking and it’s takes hard work to keep the habit up, at the end of the book you just stop smoking and go about your life as a non smoker 😀 On a money side of things, after the both of us stopped smoking we saved enough money to renovate our house and go overseas every year for a holiday. Definitely worth the very short term anxiety of stopping Good luck with your journey, hope it all goes well

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    7 years ago

    yup i get that number working on 7.50 a packet but i just googled them and a peter j packet of 30 rrp is $41 😳😳😳😳now ,so your numbers are like mine way off ,i know they haven’t been that price for ever that’s what’s makes it hard to work out what i’ve actually saved ,GEESUS,at that price i’m saving 120 A DAY 😳my mum used to smoke 5 packs a day. and on a thursday night buy 3 cartons and run out , mr b - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    1990, my Wife enrolled me in the quit program and asked me to go along to a few meetings...It was a 6 week program, on the 1st week we were told that if we could carry our durries and lighter we could also carry pen and paper. Our job was to log every durrie and score it 1 - 5 on the "must have" scale, with 5 being the must have. The following week it was obvious that I was a heavily addicted smoker. The next thing we learnt was to disosciate the cues that make us want to smoke from the smoking, eg a smoke after a root in bed or after dinner in a comfy chair in front of the TV. In both of those cases it was wait awhile then go outside and smoke there. Then it was a case of cutting the "1's" the "2's" etc so by the end of 6 weeks I was down to just a few per day...There's a hell of a lot more to it and I'm happy to go on, especially if asked. It's not easy but YOU can do it...hell I did

  • BungCpl

    BungCpl

    7 years ago

    That’s a f@#k load of cruises you could of paid for since giving up 🛳🛳🛳

  • tcm70

    tcm70

    7 years ago

    So much terrific info here. I’m soaking it all in, I’ll try and reply to as many of you as I can, as I really appreciate your thoughts. Tonight with a bit of extra time due to not ducking outside for a smoke😉, perhaps I can answer all of you. Pipsqueak, thankyou, it’s lovely to hear your support and confidence in me x. Kool, Meander, Mojo, DirtyMale, PassionFreaks, Boobs and NewVicCpl, as your all ex smokers, you are inspiring in proof that it’s possible, especially Boobs, omfg man, 3 packs a day, fuck me, and to go cold turkey, full respect. Full respect to all of you that have quit. 👍🏽 I do smoke rollies Meander, and I’ve thought about going out on tailors, but sometimes when I’m city driving I buy a small pack as it’s hard to roll a dart driving in that chaos, I find they give me a dry and sore throat, that could possibly help, but I think I’d get annoyed by that and want a rollie as a farewell. Lol. I’ve tried a vape before Supernova, wasn’t to impressed and it made me cough like crazy, so similar to going to tailors I think it’d bug me. DirtyMale, I’ve heard about champix and what was the other one? Zyban or something, tbh, I’m kinda scared to try a medication path, bit hypocritical possibly seeing I smoke cigarettes with all their chemicals and shit in them, but I think those drugs are along anti depressant lines and I’m not keen to fuck with the balance in my mind, thanks for the input tho, I know it works for some. NewVicCpl, I’ve have heard about that book to, tho couldn’t remember it’s name, cheers for that, that’s an option I’d try for sure if I find I struggle. PassionFreaks, yes your right, shouldn’t be haters about choices, tho I was expecting a bit of “yeah quit you dirty stinking fuckin prick” so it’s been awesome to see such positive responses by ex smokers, smokers and non smokers. And huge respect for you for quitting when pregnant. That’s a total effort for the sake of another. Okey, yeah mate, I hear you about the love/hate relationship, but I’ve hit the hate/hate relationship with it now. Yes, the beer and ciggy will be missed and that’s one trigger I’m going to have to really watch. Each time is a minor battle tho and victory gives a bit more confidence and strength I think. I hope. Kitty, thank you for your input, tho I think myself I will lean towards more like Meander suggested and give it a few months at least before I change my status. If within a week I had a swing with a couple I’d think I’d end up smoking, or maybe that’s steaming,lol, but it could revert me, a few months and I think I’d be confident in having actually quit. My maths actually add up to be fairly embarrassing, a pouch of the tobacco I smoke is now about $75. Plus with papers and filters rounds it off to say $80 (2-3 years ago the same pouch was about $45.) I’d buy a pouch every 4-5 days, so I’m looking at about $600 minimum a month. $7500 a year. How fucked is that😬. Bloody good holiday in that or anything better than smoke. Yep, I’m going beat it.

  • theoxisback14

    theoxisback14

    7 years ago

    In the end what ever you choose to help you will be just that. I used champix and it helped a lot but the thing is I could at anytime pick up another cigarette and smoke it, You’ve gotta get rid of the habit yourself but changing the things you do when you smoked - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    As NVC suggested, l know a few people that used that book as well to quit. I've never read it and have no idea how it works but it apparently it has a good success rate and probably a cheaper option too. Worth a try. You too Okey 😃

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    7 years ago

    forgot to add they were pj dark blue,so they were the16 heavy duty mg ones , also gave up about 10 black coffees a day , lmao and people think i’m the energiser bunny now ,they have no idea ,lmao fact is many as you can see have travelled the road and can support you and share story’s , mr b mr b - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I found that my state of mind...my outlook on my life going forward was probably the main driver behind my giving up.I didn't want it to be the possible cause of my death one day...I was quite aware that there were enough things that could do that already, without me adding to it.But it had been a few years building up in my mind before I was ready to just stop one day.And I looked for the thing that I didn't like to do when I smoked...exercise...and I used that to break it.But seeing that some people light up a smoke after stepping outside a gym, I guess it isn't everyone's trick. About 5 years ago I gave up adding sugar to my food and drink for the same reasons. I was concerned I would get diabetes if I kept having 2 tablespoons of the stuff in each of my 3-4 cups of coffee a day.At first it felt like all the pleasure had gone out of drinking coffee( well, instant coffee still tastes like shit...which was why I was adding so much sugar )...but, my tastes eventually adjusted.A flat white with no sugar tastes very sweet to me now, compared to plunger( which I drink at home ) which is bitter, compared to instant( which I drink at work ) which still tastes like shit.Presumably, it's the lactose( which is a sugar ) in the flat white which gives it the sweetness. I'd say my sense of taste and smell is more refined(?) since I gave up tobacco and excess sugar.After a few months, a year....that's one of the physical rewards of doing the hard yards of quitting that you'll appreciate.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    But seeing that some people light up a smoke after stepping outside a gym, I guess it isn't everyone's trick. Oh so very guilty. Funny thing is, the only time I ever did it I sprung one of the personal trainers - a hardcore exercise and clean-living Nazi - who had ducked to the same little hidey-hole I had.

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    7 years ago

    yes if you read the labels on milk they have s small amount of sugar from something but not sure it’s the lactose because lactose free also has the same amount. , but i’m will you and have no desire for sugar in my latte or flat whites the milk takes the bitterness out enough for me ,how the hell i used to drink black coffee with a dash of cold water is beyond me 😳 mr b - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    If I see social smoker, it means they are a regular smoker. If it says regular smoker, they on crack for sure... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Oh, I still drink black coffee with nothing added now and again....for that kick-in-the-guts wake up, but I prefer my white-no-sugar. I wasn't even aware that lactose is a sugar until I started home brewing beer.I've occasionally used it as a sweetener in stouts( hence the name, milk stouts ) because yeast wont convert it to alcohol...unlike glucose and maltose.

  • tcm70

    tcm70

    7 years ago

    That’s what I started smoking on Boobs, my old man used to smoke those and I’d nick a few every now and then. Talking about smoking after a gym session, I used to play a lot of basketball, and yes, used to light up as soon as outside the rec centres. What used to amuse me tho was one of the main umpires who ran the whole game with us, so he was non stop running to keep up, at half time he used to sneak out the side door and punch a couple of winnie reds into him. Kool, yeah mate, I believe state of mind is a big factor for sure. I also don’t wish to die from something caused by smoking. I do think I’ve been building up to this quitting stage for some time now, but life just kept ticking along without me making a stand and quitting until now. I meant to mention the exercise thing you bought up in previous post to. I’m not one for a gym environment for exercise, but I have some lovely scrub areas out behind my house that I’m starting to either walk or ride my pushy around the tracks in it a lot more frequently. Also with the weather warming up I’m getting keen to surf a lot lot more than I have for while, so hoping that will be a focus for me to. As for coffee, I’ll still add my 2 sugars for awhile, one vice at a time I think. This past week or so I’ve been doing similiar to what Mojo mentioned, really paying attention to which smokes I have at certain times and why. And have so far cut down from 15-20(or more) a day to 5-6. I think my hardest one will be the first one in the morning with my coffee, tomorrow being Saturday I’m planning to start the day without that one, as I won’t be at work to murder anyone if I don’t handle it to well. 😂. Tho honestly, I think I’m fairly in control of my emotions and should be able to contain any angst and turn it around to a positive light.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    There's nothing quite like unfiltered American cigarettes.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    you have to do it properly though and use nicotine. Good place Ive found is in NZ 40 bucks for 100ml free post lasts me about 3 monthsGo the 28mg stuff, Ive found the easiest way for most smokers is to transition over from smoking.Keep smoking but alternate with the vape and slowly go over to vaping. Ive got a few really hard core smokers off the habit this way, myself included.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I love smoking

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Boobs.... Yup...numbers will be way off based on 15,000 increases lol When I was plugging away a pack of 30’s a day I’d buy 40’s in a carton for the week...that ended up at about $130 I think it was at a supermarket for 5 packs... made it easier but that’s still $6000 or so a year for me based on the current prices at the time I was on em...3.5 years on I should have a house deposit lol as that’s $21,000 or so, but it’s gone too as I go camping more, recently bought a kayak for my fishing, blah blah blah...productive things I realise in comparison though..