M62
On or off topic
December 21 2014
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AnnieWhichway
11 years ago
I did post a response a while ago that touched on my TS partners suicide but it was not approved. It is a touchy subject and can understand both sides of that. On one side someone' s personal experience may help someone in that dark place get the help they need. It could also help people that have been affected by an event like that. On the other hand, does the moderator have the backgroundtraining that can judge what would be helpfuland what could be potentially dangerous in either approving or denying a post. Perhaps with that subject, the public liability would be too risky for the rhp owners and would therefore be easier to avoid.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I love the diversity on these forums, we are all human and have differing ideals, morals and views and I love that about it. I have had a different opinion on many issues with others and I love it, some people challenge my ideals and maybe I do that to others, whether they like it or not I am not sure, but I imagine most people who are willing to publicly put their 2 cents forward has a thick skin and enjoy reading another perspective. That is what a forum is about afterall, I don't want to sit here agreeing and kissing the OP's arse. As for dark subjects, I too have had threads knocked back about sex and drugs. I think it is an interesting subject but it was knocked back on a few occasions. I may not always agree with what everyone has to say but I will defend their right to say it. Being gagged is Big Brother at it's best. Nobody is going to agree on everything all the time, and thank god for that! I love everyone for their strength and conviction in what they have to say. Does make me wonder why anyone would go and complain to the mods because I think if you are that sensitive about other people's opinions then maybe you shouldn't be reading. I do not agree however with pubic attacks on people personally and that does irritate me when I read people squabbling with no real argument about the topic. Maybe they should take it up in email instead like one beautiful forum lady did with me recently when I offended her. We both had our say and kissed and made up :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
I've been touched by suicide more times than I care to remember, starting with my father's suicide when I was very young. Since then that frosty hand has cuffed me too often, so naturally I get hot and bothered on this subject. I have learnt to keep my more extreme views to myself as they are not always popular! Suicide is not always about "depression" and every suicide is as individual as the victim...it's a shame it doesn't get the same "attention" as the road toll...either in real terms or per capita.Moderate as you will...or not this issue is a real modern tragedy
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RHP User
11 years ago
It's a joke... The same people who whinge about the moderating are often just as much a part of the cause. Whether they've reported a post or a topic...
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RHP User
11 years ago
Maybe the mods might consider that by caving to the whingers they risk offending others who are enjoying a topic.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Loved the diversity of a few years ago.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Even has naughty corner :)..,and I am sitting in it xxFreya
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madotara69
11 years ago
Lovely to see you. It is a bit more than annoying, it can be embarrassing, I put up fair thought out post as header for discussion and was ready to get right in amongst it, as to jmans OP, pointing out an argument getting heated was based on misguided belief, the powers with persuasion riding on very thin air, was being hurled as bricks, just the way jman enjoys it. He can't have all the fun so I felt like evening the odds and throwing a few back. Just as we had them on the run it gets shut down, if it was because of the tone of the argument it did not have any weight it was all but fizzled out and the nature of the discussion so close to being set for a good sit in at the table. It was a set up that's what it was. Hope that sounds as impressive as it would have been jennylee. What I think would be acceptable is for the mods to get jimmy in and set up a tone bar or something or a page away from the apps red tape. Mado Mado Tara xx
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Lovinit28andKC72
11 years ago
I think it's going a bit overboard, I've had quite a few of my posts removed in recent times. Not only does it annoy me, but it put the whole tread out of whack and makes it incredibly difficult to read. It's an open forum and I thought that's what it's all about, sharing experiences and opinions. We are all different, our experiences, our journeys, our opinions, our thoughts and our lives. Of course there are going to be debates, that's what I like, I like to hear the opinions of others and I believe everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if I don't agree with it....I'm not easily offended, but possibly have offended others, it's only my opinion, but it matters to me.... I have learnt so much here in the forums, about myself and about others... So I will continue to contribute, share, annoy, be over opinionated and when I'm sick of that I will go back to being a lurker.....💋
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Freya79' Even has naughty corner :)..,and I am sitting in it xxFreya
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RHP User
11 years ago
I'm not fussed what people write on the forums. If I don't like or am not into a subject, I just don't reply or read it. Like the TV, if I don't like a show, I change the channel. I'm not going to call channel 7 each time. Not sure why people report posts. Unless it's about child abuse or something hideous like that, just move along to the next post. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
I don't see it as RHP caving so much either I suppose. It's their party after all and I get to attend for free, lol. I believe the wonder of connections will still happen if they're meant to. :-) . I did wonder why your recent thread was deleted though Jensman. The level I would have been with you on would have been the new 40 and 50 kph in the last few years. Blessed has my driving record remained, my parking record, not so good. . Apparently that sort of thing matters on one of the Worst Driver's page. 0:-P. People there are so pedantic, even about whether pics were taken legally even.
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RHP User
11 years ago
That the personal attacks seem to be few and far between...there is still little sniping between posters who will never agree on anything but I am glad that the pages of vitriol are no more....However I think it is terrible that just one individual complaint about a post or a whole thread,can shut it down xxFreya
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RHP User
11 years ago
I've always loved the forums since I started posting... Yeah it can get narky at times, but egos are bound to be tested... Perspectives challenged... But you do get over any butthurt that goes on....no different to offline. I think that the butthurt is a necessity in order for people to grow and become better people.. But... No matter what goes on inside these walls, and conversations, I'd still sit down and have a drink with most of you.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
the Moderator judge a forum thread, yes it get's heated sometimes, still many people are here to put water on the fire and after all most of the times we are all calm again after a couple of pages. We are on a side many people would not approve off, and RHP has to recognize this too, so giving us the freedom to express, not only sexual but also what we thing is a path in the right direction. So I ask the moderator please open your eyes and mind not only to sexuality but also to threats which touch us deeply and let us decide which threat will run out quickly. How else can people show what they really thing. Ohh I just hate this controlling shit. And as someone said, RHP should not bend down to the few who can't hack it. In my opinion people who run to the moderator to cry.......he /she offended me are pathetic little shits, it reminds me of kindergarten behavior, stand up and be counted without being rude or threatening to anybody, and should you really don't like a threat stay away.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Freya79' Even has naughty corner :)..,and I am sitting in it xxFreya
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RHP User
11 years ago
And talking about sex.But there is more to life, and there are interesting people here with interesting views on a range of topics. Sure it's primarily a site dedicated to sex and hookups, but many of us like to hook up with others we find intellectually stimulating as well as physically hot. It's also a great way to give people enough rope to show their true colours. That said, it's a commercial business and RHP have a higher purpose. While the forums are an important part of keeping us amused and coming back to the site on a regular basis, the contributors and even the lurkers are a fraction of the RHP membership. The primary purpose is SEO* - providing the content and keywords to ensure Google send more potential members this way as often as possible. RHP will have their own views and reasons for limiting the discussions based on their commercial goals. Many of us see RHP as a community, with the forums, chat rooms and meetups key to the shared experience. It's not a community though, it's a commercial marketplace. The community is created by the users, not the owners, and sometimes the needs of the two will not meet. If community is seen to conflict with selling membership then we're not going to win those battles. Personally I think that more rounded, more interesting forums would enhance the site, but the management obviously disagree. It's a shame. *Search Engine Optimisation - the process of creating content and structure that will place a site higher in the search listings for specific search terms - eg, search for "swinging in Australia" and RHP want their site to be top of the list in Google. By including the term right here in my comments I've just done RHP a favour.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Like if I wanted to start a topic."Sex is fucking Awesome when you slam Crack" This would definitely be banned. Tho if I worded it something like. Help I'm Addicted to crack" Then that would more than likely be allowed (But I still don't know" Not everyone here lives in a fluffy pink world and some of the darker subjects should be open for discussion. You never know who is reading the forums and how some things said may help people. So long as your not advocating something that is illegal or immoral (according to the immoral acts of Oz, not an individuals sense of moral) then said topics should be open for discussion. We are after all adults and are aware of these issues that affects some peoples lives.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I have found that the forums are not the stimulating, mentally challenging place it was........... I met so many people of the mind through the forums, people I shared ideals and beliefs with, people I wanted to meet in real life............. It has become quite stagnant and I only hope that it goes even part way back to the way it was before......... Thanks Jensman for posting
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RHP_Editor
11 years ago
There appears to be a lot of assumptions about moderation and RedHotPie's management. Firstly, RedHotPie is indeed a business but that is not to say the owners are not a part of the community (did you think they randomly decided to start RHP up?) and enjoy the various discussions that have taken place over the years. We (as an operational body) are however, mindful of topics that may have a negative effect both on the website as well as the community. Our preference is to exclude topics that are considered 'triggers' for some people. These may include topics such as suicide, sexual assault, mental health issues and other traumas. We have no doubt that the majority of posters have the capacity to keep discussions about these topics civil but it only takes a a word or two to bring up bad memories for some people, or for a topic to simply go wrong. No one should be, or feel responsible for another person's well being. Yes, we appreciate that the support of fellow posters may be beneficial to many people under some circumstances but the opposite occurring is just as likely with so many strong and conflicting personalities coming together. We also prefer to exclude or limit the discussion of illegal activities for common sense reasons. You may wish to have a thought-provoking debate about medical marijuana but we know from past experience that a couple of posters will (sometimes inadvertently) spoil the fun by discussing how they smoke it, grow it, distribute it. Most such posts are removed before view naturally, but if a topic invites that sort of response regularly, we'd rather pull it. Unfortunately aside from ensuring content is relevant to a topic and adheres to our Terms of Use, moderation is largely us being school teachers. If someone whinges to us about a topic, we sometimes dismiss the whinge or if the whinging is loud enough, we try and find a solution. Sometimes we just don't have the time or inclination to find out 'who started it' or what exactly someone said that offended someone, so a topic dies or gets frozen. We try and avoid it but if a topic has run its course and no one seems to be staying on topic, that's a solution. We're looking forward to upgrading various features on RedHotPie in the New Year and Forums is indeed one area which we hope to find new ways to ensure that contributing to it is fun. This may even include getting the original poster to help moderate their own replies and manage what goes in it. To be honest, we can only work with words sometimes. We don't always know if what seems like an insult is actually an insult to the recipient or not but the original poster may be a better judge of that. To wrap things up: * We actually do appreciate feedback but Forums isn't where to post it if it is regarding concrete issues with the website or suggestions for RedHotPie that you'd like to see taken on board. That's what our Help section is for. * If you have an issue with RedHotPie, then once again, take it to the Help section. If you think someone at a party has bad breath, you usually discreetly take them aside to tell them, not announce it to the whole world or get a whole bunch of people to agree with you. * Don't open a can of worms. If you know a topic is likely to, then please word it differently, or stress in your original post that replies *must* stick to the topic. I think that's it. Have a great Christmas and look forward to seeing what you get up to in 2015 :) Ed.
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RHP User
11 years ago
show us yer tits ☺️ Please!!!! 😜 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP_Editor
11 years ago
Who's to say I haven't already in Amateur Pics? :) Quoting 'sir_stir' show us yer tits ☺️ Please!!!! 😜 - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
11 years ago
Quoting 'RHP_Editor'. To be honest, we can only work with words sometimes. We don't always know if what seems like an insult is actually an insult to the recipient or not but the original poster may be a better judge of that. The political correctness interpretations sprouted about the forums has buggered up the Aussie lingo, call a bloke a Galah someone reads it and gets all cocky about it. Heavens too Betsy for a fair suck of the sav in the crucial sakes of a conversation, some silly ding bat will get all saucy and stick it up you. Considering this is jensmans thread, then the honours on him respectively as example, the suggestion he moderates the interpretations put forward to the topic as offensive amongst his peers jman As long as you're fair dink ya grumpy old bastard, pull a swifty on us! and we'll have yu by the short and curlies. I think it's a wonderful idea.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Well unless they're in my inbox or in my face it never happened 😝
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RHP User
11 years ago
Just cause RHP get busy and cant be arsed reading where the problem comes from.........we all have to suffer. If I treated my workforce like that I would be arsed! Stay on topic RHP - No need for a cop out.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Quoting 'RHP_Editor'. To be honest, we can only work with words sometimes. We don't always know if what seems like an insult is actually an insult to the recipient or not but the original poster may be a better judge of that. The political correctness interpretations sprouted about the forums has buggered up the Aussie lingo, call a bloke a Galah someone reads it and gets all cocky about it. Heavens too Betsy for a fair suck of the sav in the crucial sakes of a conversation, some silly ding bat will get all saucy and stick it up you. Considering this is jensmans thread, then the honours on him respectively as example, the suggestion he moderates the interpretations put forward to the topic as offensive amongst his peers jman As long as you're fair dink ya grumpy old bastard, pull a swifty on us! and we'll have yu by the short and curlies. I think it's a wonderful idea. Jeezuz - an i really reading this. Talk about freedom of speech - NOT - Every one is different in here and opions do not always gel but hey. As an individual I know I insult some people cause they piss me off and they insult me back. How many fucks are given - NONE.
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RHP User
11 years ago
.....and Merry Christmas and I hope your holidays are a blast.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Left over strawberryies up my bum boxing day. .:) - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
11 years ago
Gotcha, that was fckn easy, and jman gets a blow job out of it.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Left over strawberryies up my bum boxing day. .:) - Posted from rhpmobile I'm listening to Christine the Strawberry Girl like never before
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RHP User
11 years ago
Ey EB
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RHP User
11 years ago
Tis the season to be giving On another note. WHY do RHP not have an edit option. I am sure many posters hit "SEND" then say "OH FUCK". I know I do.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'RHP_Editor' This may even include getting the original poster to help moderate their own replies and manage what goes in it. Ed. Im a firm believer in if you write it you own it. OP's should not have the ability to moderate posts. That is a recipe for a one way opinion.Give everyone instant posting and put a dislike button on a post. Certain amount of dislikes == removal of the post. automatically when that number is reached. Yeah posters moderating the posters.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Thank you for posting. I know that you (or your colleagues) have done so before and I was hoping you would include yourself in this discussion. I would like to see more of it as it makes your role and presence feels less clinical. I do feel like a rat in a maze sometimes, flailing about in here. It would be nice if you joined in more often, perhaps even warning when a post or the direction of a thread is threatening to end it.Your statement does make your role and expectations clearer. I don't think I would like to preside over my own topic however. This would create too much bias in the discussion. We questioned the notion that posting an opening statement denotes ownership of the subsequent thread in the forums some time ago and the consensus was 'no'. Giving an individual that power would enable them to steer the debate in such a direction as to achieve their own desirous outcome. This does not happen in the real world (well it does when a blowhard bigot bullies his way through but it shouldn't) and I wouldn't like to see it here.I hope this thread doesn't lose momentum now, as it is an opportunity for forum regulars to make their voices heard and there may be other grievances or suggestions that could be put forward that might be helpful. The idea of an edit function makes a lot of sense.Just one other suggestion that I hope you'll take on board, in order to placate sir_stir (and myself really), could your change your picture from a white silhouette to a shot of your tits, please? (If you're actually a bloke, leave it as it is. I'm not big on cock shots.)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'inspirit'Jensman - Cum and stick your dick in my mouth .....and Merry Christmas and I hope your holidays are a blast. ...I'm on my way.
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MsJonesy
11 years ago
I too thank the Editor for chipping into the thread; great to hear your views on what happens in the sandpit. What I would like to think happens behind the scenes is that you keep a list of the serial whingers. If they are requesting too many posts be taken down or they are continually in a state of angst about posts or particular posters, then you may wish to consider them as a querulous complainant - if not a vexatious complainant. Perhaps they are the ones who need to a quiet word from the Editor about tolerance and freedom of speech. Keeping a few serial complainers happy at the extent of the majority is a no win situation and would ultimately impact your business far more than keeping these negative Nellies happy.
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RHP User
11 years ago
It would be nice to see a little more tolerance for new posters too...as for OPs moderating their own threads,a few OPs already try and do that ...one person goes on the attack as soon as someone has a different point of view to his xxFreya
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RHP User
11 years ago
The autocorrect seems determined to turn you into a kiosk😀...I do hope you sell gelato 😛
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RHP User
11 years ago
Actually freedom of speech is not enshrined in our constitution,it's the First Amendment of the U.S.A's constitution...xxFreya
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RHP User
11 years ago
"Australia is a party to seven core international human rights treaties. The right to freedom of opinion and expression is contained in articles 19 and 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)." Though it adds: "You will need to consider the right to freedom of opinion and expression if you are working on legislation, a policy or a program that: regulates the content of any speech, publication, broadcast, display or promotion regulates the format or manner of any form of expression (for example requires prior approval for public protest or places restrictions on the uses of places in which protest activity may take place) restricts or censors media coverage, including in relation to political matters requires material to be approved before it may be published attaches criminal or civil liability to the publication of opinions or informationregulates or restricts access to information, including on the internet imposes censorship or provides for classification of entertainment content, or regulates commercial expression (such as advertising)." I think some of these regulations are applicable to RHP. Thanks for a great topic, Jman, and Ed. for responding too. Everything I was going comment has mostly been said, so I'll just give a thumbs up.
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RHP User
11 years ago
If we pls, and to all the haters ,well you can go eat a c__k meat sandwiche. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Other people's dislike for a topic or the responses within it, shouldn't prejudice others! With an online thread,if you don't like it,click a button & you're out of it! YOU have the choice! Too easy! Me,I'm open & broadminded enough to listen to & discuss anything. IF I don't like something,I have a choice to stay or go Not fucken hard is it! Now where's all the debauched folk hiding out?!? haha
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RHP User
11 years ago
It is an adult forum so no body should be restricted butI will admit some reply like a child not an adult.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Let's rebel
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madotara69
11 years ago
At least I know now why my posts don't get moderated to the tip Meander, no one understands them, it's all dressed subliminal and flies under the radar.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I love the forum"s, I deliberitely (spelling) hesitate to comment on some subjects due to not having the intillect or experience to give any wisdom in such matter's. I find that some forumites, have an opinion no matter what the post and it scare's me that a person may act on that opinion like a puppy wagging it's tail wanting a scatch behind the ear's.As for the narkyness, I sit back and have a giggle waiting for calm, and usually put it down to the fact they just had a bad fuck and need to de stress or they desperately need there brains fucked out, and no one seem's to care.....knots
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RHP User
11 years ago
Did anyone notice the latest infringement stats from NSW police? Around half of the traffic fines (and revenue) are from cameras snapping people doing less than 10km/h over the speed limit. Thanks for the response Ed, but cans of worms make the world a more interesting place.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Death sadly we all deal with it throughout our lives either very close people or just someone we know... It's a thing that can take us by surprise or it's right in our faces :( yet in general we are not meant to talk about this common life Challange :( we are just meant to deal with it... Shame on RHP for not allowing people's feelings or views to be entered here
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RHP User
11 years ago
I wanna say what eva I wanna say, an' I wanna be able to edit it tooo...
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RHP User
11 years ago
quoting chevtrek "To bloody silly It is an adult forum so no body should be restricted but I will admit some reply like a child not an adult." Bit like your response really... 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear' I wanna say what eva I wanna say, an' I wanna be able to edit it tooo... And... and... and... I waaant to be able to block people posts in the forums who piss me off tooo...
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RHP User
11 years ago
I was here for the few months both posts and threads were free to post instantly by all... It Was a good time. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'RHP_Editor' There appears to be a lot of assumptions about moderation and RedHotPie's management. Firstly, RedHotPie is indeed a business but that is not to say the owners are not a part of the community (did you think they randomly decided to start RHP up?) and enjoy the various discussions that have taken place over the years. We (as an operational body) are however, mindful of topics that may have a negative effect both on the website as well as the community. Our preference is to exclude topics that are considered 'triggers' for some people. These may include topics such as suicide, sexual assault, mental health issues and other traumas. We have no doubt that the majority of posters have the capacity to keep discussions about these topics civil but it only takes a a word or two to bring up bad memories for some people, or for a topic to simply go wrong. No one should be, or feel responsible for another person's well being. Yes, we appreciate that the support of fellow posters may be beneficial to many people under some circumstances but the opposite occurring is just as likely with so many strong and conflicting personalities coming together. We also prefer to exclude or limit the discussion of illegal activities for common sense reasons. You may wish to have a thought-provoking debate about medical marijuana but we know from past experience that a couple of posters will (sometimes inadvertently) spoil the fun by discussing how they smoke it, grow it, distribute it. Most such posts are removed before view naturally, but if a topic invites that sort of response regularly, we'd rather pull it. Unfortunately aside from ensuring content is relevant to a topic and adheres to our Terms of Use, moderation is largely us being school teachers. If someone whinges to us about a topic, we sometimes dismiss the whinge or if the whinging is loud enough, we try and find a solution. Sometimes we just don't have the time or inclination to find out 'who started it' or what exactly someone said that offended someone, so a topic dies or gets frozen. We try and avoid it but if a topic has run its course and no one seems to be staying on topic, that's a solution. We're looking forward to upgrading various features on RedHotPie in the New Year and Forums is indeed one area which we hope to find new ways to ensure that contributing to it is fun. This may even include getting the original poster to help moderate their own replies and manage what goes in it. To be honest, we can only work with words sometimes. We don't always know if what seems like an insult is actually an insult to the recipient or not but the original poster may be a better judge of that. To wrap things up: * We actually do appreciate feedback but Forums isn't where to post it if it is regarding concrete issues with the website or suggestions for RedHotPie that you'd like to see taken on board. That's what our Help section is for. * If you have an issue with RedHotPie, then once again, take it to the Help section. If you think someone at a party has bad breath, you usually discreetly take them aside to tell them, not announce it to the whole world or get a whole bunch of people to agree with you. * Don't open a can of worms. If you know a topic is likely to, then please word it differently, or stress in your original post that replies *must* stick to the topic. I think that's it. Have a great Christmas and look forward to seeing what you get up to in 2015 :) Ed. Considering the topic of the OP having some control over their thread has raised it's head again, I thought I'd bump this up for consideration. See if anyone feels different now. 🍑Peachy
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MsJonesy
10 years ago
Quoting 'kissk' I too thank the Editor for chipping into the thread; great to hear your views on what happens in the sandpit. What I would like to think happens behind the scenes is that you keep a list of the serial whingers. If they are requesting too many posts be taken down or they are continually in a state of angst about posts or particular posters, then you may wish to consider them as a querulous complainant - if not a vexatious complainant. Perhaps they are the ones who need to a quiet word from the Editor about tolerance and freedom of speech. Keeping a few serial complainers happy at the extent of the majority is a no win situation and would ultimately impact your business far more than keeping these negative Nellies happy. I still stand by what I said on this thread. There appears to be a certain few who have a hot line to the mods, who seem to listen and act on their serial whinges. I don't know why. It's taken down some good threads for no reason...oh hang on. There is a reason - certain people getting their panties in a bunch.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Can't quote as on iPad. I still feel exactly the same, I don't see how this post changes anything and I don't like people having threads cleared simply because they offend their sense of order. Unless the thread topic violate the TOS in a major way, it should be left. Unless a post violates the TOS in a major way, it should be left. And nothing should be deleted without some sort of a moderation note to the person whose post was moderated/deleted. what would it change? What WOULD be a good change is to handle moderation like every other major forum out there, community moderators - IMO 'thread based' moderation rights is a whole can of worms and system customisation they shouldn't even be thinking about until basic navigation and JavaScript/markdown text entry is working.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I intensely dislike acronyms!!! They exclude people and make them feel stupid and unloved... I also have the flu.... Oh wait a minute this isn't the venting forum :/ oops Xxviolet
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RHP User
10 years ago
Serial complainers that for their own personal agenda, will complain about a poster or what/how they post. Even when it was not directed at them. Just move along....
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RHP User
10 years ago
Does the violator become a tosser 😝xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
So, putting aside your perception of serial offenders because there is no proof of any such thing. Considering the sheer number of deletions, and I know I don't report all that often, sometimes not for months at a time, there has to be more to it. What now? I only raised the issue because of concerns I saw on another thread about the hope the OP had been contacted before their thread was deleted. Was that a genuine concern? Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
It's not a big problem for me, I very rarely lose posts. So, I am probably coming from a very different place. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
I can live with double posts (helps if poster only clicks once btw, lol). I can live with typos (they have their moments) I can live with multiple posts (multiple offender here) I don't think I could live with the confusion of posts appearing and changing. If editing were to be allowed, I guess I could be interested in the idea of a short window where the post doesn't appear in the forum but you can see it there and edit it. Maybe a 2 step post in effect? Just my thoughts.🍑 Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
I don't think I've ever reported a post in the however many years I've been here - I don't see that much content on here that warrants being complained about that frequently. It probably doesn't surprise anyone that the people who regularly request posts be deleted are the ones having less of their own posts removed. It seems like you're not very familiar with other forum software, almost every forum on the web runs on either phpBB or vBulletin. Both allow full editing at any time, the only difference is that after a short grace period, editing the post includes a notice that the post has been edited. (If you're including Facebook as a forum, you can edit the post but it will still allow you to go back and see the history of the edited post - AFAIK the only way to actually fully remove the text is to delete the post and start again). Posts should be immediately posted to the forum, it's frustrating and disjointed when posts suddenly show up. If they need to be moderated then it isn't hard for mods to remove them/edit them and it isn't hard to have tools that would check posts and flag them if they were suspect. Double posts shouldn't even be a thing, it's simple to stop a double post - you just give a unique id every time you give a form you could make a post from, and check that you haven't received that ID already. If you have, dump back out and say it's a possible duplicate post (and send back a new ID so it can accept the post if they then hit send).
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' Posts should be immediately posted to the forum, it's frustrating and disjointed when posts suddenly show up. If they need to be moderated then it isn't hard for mods to remove them/edit them and it isn't hard to have tools that would check posts and flag them if they were suspect. I don't post to many forums, but I read a few, and the RHP forum format is archaic. The delayed posting of comments is ridiculous and prevents those without IP from participating fully in the forums.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Thanks for the inference. It doesn't surprise me that people will make up whatever they want without a trace of proof. I've been putting up with it for years. That is the way of this forum. Like a lot of regulars, I lost my IP recently and a whole pile of posts, I just didn't advertise it in the fora. We've spoken in the fora often enough for you to understand I'm a novice in the understanding of tech. But I do know how fb goes... I admin a few groups there with nary a deletion. I know what a hassle it can be in the general areas of fb to see what they said before and it doesn't interest me to have to do that here with the way words get confused even when they're still right there for everybody to read. The IP situation, changing that would slow down some of the overriding opinions of people with IP. We get so much control over the forum because of that 'power'! Peachy
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MnauMnau
10 years ago
One solution might be, who ever complains about thread, post, comments - restrict their access to these forums, threads, posts or even users. If someone complains about my profile, restricted them from seeing it. If someone doesn't like my topic, restrict them again, from seeing my thread or topic. IMHO
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RHP User
10 years ago
RHP has answered too, don't know if it's on this thread or elsewhere but that's a no too. If I could restrict myself from the occasional thread or two, I wouldn't mind. I can block posts on facebook that I don't want to see. And then it's, out of sight, out of mind. I wouldn't actually want to block anyone on that level. S, might I add that I have a lot more respect for the mods than what you suggested. Preferential treatment is not the case at all imo. I reckon people just don't bother reporting me. Peachy
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MnauMnau
10 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL' .... If I could restrict myself from the occasional thread or two, ..... Peachy No, you wouldn't restrict yourself from someone. It would be admins / mods decision. If someone is complaining to mods and then its up to them to decide about restrictions. You can already block someones profile, but we talking about forums, topics, threads... When someone is complaining about topic, restrict them (admins / mods / OP) from viewing the thread. Also, paid members only forum would be good to have too I think.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL' RHP has answered too, don't know if it's on this thread or elsewhere but that's a no too. If I could restrict myself from the occasional thread or two, I wouldn't mind. I can block posts on facebook that I don't want to see. And then it's, out of sight, out of mind. I wouldn't actually want to block anyone on that level. S, might I add that I have a lot more respect for the mods than what you suggested. Preferential treatment is not the case at all imo. I reckon people just don't bother reporting me. Peachy you could always just "not open the thread" - it's not like this is an iPhone with an annoying badge sitting there until you look and clear away the notification. I'm not suggesting preferential treatment, I'm suggesting that there are people who get about here with their big boy/girl pants on and when something is posted that they don't like they just roll their eyes, maybe swear under their breath, and move on to the next post. Then there are others who apparently take pleasure in reporting things to mods and a post that is reported is one that is more likely to get deleted (or a thread if that's the case). So the "people that request posts get deleted" rarely have their posts removed when compared to the "people who don't request" since the "people who don't request" wouldn't be requesting that posts get removed. So that dovetails with what I said, they might not get reported - people might just swear under their breath and eye roll at the umpteenth thread from 10 years ago resurrected and just move on to a topic they want to post in. Quoting 'PeachyPearL'I know what a hassle it can be in the general areas of fb to see what they said before and it doesn't interest me to have to do that here with the way words get confused even when they're still right there for everybody to read. you don't "have" to do that in FB, you just look at the post as it is. It's just a mechanism that allows people to really see what was actually said originally if they REALLY care.
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RHP User
10 years ago
It's not that easy to avoid entering a thread these day. I got to the one where I was the topic of conversation by following a friend's notification on my home stream. That would never have happened if I wasn't able to access that thread. Which leads to... LOL @ the idea that the big panty wearers just roll their eyes or mutter under their breath... oh no. There are plenty of comments on various threads about who and what people can't control including the bumping up of threads, like that matters. What is the problem of the bumping up of threads to cause such a furore? Do you think it has to do with control of the fora? What makes you think people that choose the reporting option don't report each other? Oh S, if I want to know what they originally said, as was the point of that post, I am going to have to do that. I'm not the sort for taking things at face value Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'MnauMnau' Quoting 'PeachyPearL' .... If I could restrict myself from the occasional thread or two, ..... Peachy No, you wouldn't restrict yourself from someone. It would be admins / mods decision. If someone is complaining to mods and then its up to them to decide about restrictions. You can already block someones profile, but we talking about forums, topics, threads... When someone is complaining about topic, restrict them (admins / mods / OP) from viewing the thread. Also, paid members only forum would be good to have too I think. Control of the reporting poster by the mods/admins. Yes and no. Most of the control of the censorship by the mods these days is through the restriction of instant posting. Or any posting at all. I have had it in the past where I wasn't able to post at all because RHP blocked my access to the comments box. Some people have never gotten that back. To make it so individual for threads/posters, I'm not entirely sure about. Maybe temporarily? I'd be worried genuine concerns could well be dismissed though. Personally, I would prefer to have the choice of blocking a thread rather than having it forced on me. Still not interested in blocking other posters though I've heard that as preference from other posters many a time. Be careful what you say about the paid members only thing, lol. I've posted a thread based on a tangent of that premise before and that went ballistic. :-D I don't think members only would help. There is a forum especially for posters with immediate posting and that is like a ghost town most of the time. Cheers, Peachy :-)
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RHP User
9 years ago
Did anyone know that BUMP stands for Bring up my post? Hm, Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Freya79' Actually freedom of speech is not enshrined in our constitution,it's the First Amendment of the U.S.A's constitution...xxFreya Specifically, Article 19. Australia was one of the founding/drafting member states. You all might be interested to check the United Nations website (amongst others addressing the topic).
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL' Did anyone know that BUMP stands for Bring up my post? Hm, Peachy Interesting idea, but IMO that is a backronym, and "bump" is just the normal "bump" verb, as in "I'm bumping this up/to the front".
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' Quoting 'PeachyPearL' Did anyone know that BUMP stands for Bring up my post? Hm, Peachy Interesting idea, but IMO that is a backronym, and "bump" is just the normal "bump" verb, as in "I'm bumping this up/to the front". I did have a quick look and am now suitably educated that it is indeed a backronym. Thanks... I haven't heard that one before... it would have been so cute... oh well... Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL'Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose'Quoting 'PeachyPearL' Did anyone know that BUMP stands for Bring up my post? Hm, Peachy Interesting idea, but IMO that is a backronym, and "bump" is just the normal "bump" verb, as in "I'm bumping this up/to the front". I did have a quick look and am now suitably educated that it is indeed a backronym. Thanks... I haven't heard that one before... it would have been so cute... oh well... Peachy if it had been an acronym for "Bump Up My Post" that would've been perfect, and fit in well with older computery types and the general history of using recursion in jokes. e.g. GNU stands for "GNUs Not Unix" related: if you type "recursion" into Google, it asks if you meant "recursion", click that and it continues. (or in the classic tome, Knuth's Art of Programming - the index lists "Circular definition: see Definition, Circular" and for "Definition, Circular: see Circular Definition")
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