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Opinions
July 26 2018
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
There are a few that have come and gone, that have posted their opinions and asked questions. They ha e quickly shown that they are only interested in those that agree and try and shutdown those that disagree. Their way or the highway. I'm more than happy to expose these peeps and argue till they accept alternatives. Fortunately many here are happy to give their opinion, open to be corrected and explain. The whole situation is just part of general real life. There are fuckwits anywhere. Just as there are those that believe that the earth is flat. But I'm open to listen to their arguement.......
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
to listen. be corrected or have my opinion changed by man or woman ,makes no difference to me , in that department,the only fact,that matters to me , is you accept that i’m entitled to mine as well ,and be willing to walk away. agreeing to disagree and not get petty, and turn into a twit,that’s not a go at you btw ,i can’t say i’ve seen you post anything that has made me think whoaaaa ,to be honest , i run it the same as hanging with churches or bikies,it’s all ok as long as you don’t ramit down my throat with our way or the highway attitude ,but if your not open to having your opinion changed or challenged ,that’s where you become a stupid human imo mr b - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I won't repeat the cliche...someone has probably already beat me to it. However. When offering an opinion that cant be rescinded( namely deleted.. ) I make sure to add the "I believe, I suppose, I think.." But, that's because I generally have a quick think about what I'm going to say before I actually do....including in face to face conversation. I think you're probably right about personal ego's having something to do with that( See? I'm not qualified to offer a professional opinion there...so I just covered my arse )....because we all have one of those too. An ego.And my ego is not so outrageously huge that I want to see my incorrect opinions torn to shreds by one or two of my better qualified fellow forumites. So, I suppose I could say that I'm grateful to my fellow forumites for helping make me a better person, and keeping my ego in check. As old-fashioned as it sounds( and we should be wary of associating "old-fashioned" with "outmoded" and "outdated" ), humility is a desirable character trait to possess, in my opinion.And others likely share that opinion, which is why persons who repeatedly show a lack of it are quickly reminded of that. Differences of opinion will surely stem from life experience, too. Your own past probably moulds your opinions somewhat.You say that your outspokenness is ill received somewhat....do you think that may be because loud and outspoken personalities are often not endearing to most people in general?Do you think you are trying a little too hard to show your confidence to others? And then there's the delicate case of opinions that are factually incorrect. You see this all the time these days....from flatearthers to fake moon landing conspiracies to GMO's to vaccines to just about anything.Somewhere along the line, the idea has permeated that saying, "well, that's just my opinion and I'm sticking to it.." actually makes it a fact.The ego running rampant again? Maybe.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Just need to read the forams to know people on here are nnt very accepting of other peoples opinions. They can be down rite nasty. It is a foram at the end of the day. Dont think alot of people would be as direct with there opinions face to face, as they are safe in there homes behind a key board. Think a place like this can bring the worse out in people . But have your say and move on. Its your loved ones that you should care about what there opinions are. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Maybe not having been used to having a voice that maybe I can be ‘too loud’ with it. However not having had a voice I don’t want to have to reign it in and revert to being meek again (a purely personal observation made by me against me attempting to portray how I used to feel and be made to feel) It’s a learning curve for me and I have been dressed down for having been outspoken, these instances do make me sit back and reassess and then move forward hopefully in a better manner. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm going to start off by saying that I agree to some extent with the OP and I am going to dispute some of the details rather than the premise. My opinions are based on the experiences as an articulate, tall, white, heterosexual male and I acknowledge there will be some bias and, dare I say it, privilege associated with this. I do not seek to invalidate anybody's experiences only to offer my take on this topic in the interests of adding to the discussion. I think that there is an aspect of a "might is right" opinion among some people in that they will only respect an opinion if it's from someone they rate as being able to challenge them in a fight. This is mostly a male line of thinking and males are generally more physically imposing but less physically imposing males also suffer from this discrimination. To make it an exclusive male to female thing neglects to address the whole problem. I have also experienced individuals, men and women who are able to cut through this prejudice with a solid self confidence which allows them to call the physicality bluff and forcefully reassert their opinion. It would benefit groups to be aware of this phenomenon and discourage it. I also think that it's important for individuals to be aware of their own inadequacies and address them. Somebody who can not rationally articulate an opinion or defend it when challenged is not going to have it respected as much as somebody who can, regardless of gender. If a group starts ranking all opinions as equal without critical evaluation it will lead to dysfunctional decision making. OP you have said that you have worked hard on your confidence and that you are better able to assert yourself but that it is at times ill received by parts of society. I suggest that an element of adversarial group interaction is required for there to be critical evaluation of opinions. I am wondering if you are expecting a level of harmony and group cohesiveness which would lead to groupthink, this is something which I think this board suffers from at times. I think there is a balance required and that the dynamic can go too far in either direction.
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blondes6365
7 years ago
Definitely have to agree with AnnieWhichway There is still some who think there always right even when proven wrong
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RHP User
7 years ago
an opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance quoting Plato People dont realise their opinion is a reflection of their own character!
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RHP User
7 years ago
The current MO these days..... is outrage. Outrage designed to make more noise and shut down the people who can more effectively debate and discuss points which will likely show up the flaws in the ‘outragor’s attitude and opinion Not all intellects are created equal 😎 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Calling my character into question? It feels like it may somewhat be the case - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Not you... sorry I love your contributions!!! You have such a clever mind and strong personality.. Was distracted at work posting (yes I need a slap on the wrist for that!) and should have clarified .. which I will do so when I get a free chance lol .. Customers first currently - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
We are all different and of course have our own perceptions. However arrogance annoys the crap out me moreso than ignorance. Folks just need to chill out and walk a mile in shoes they have not worn yet. .... Can someone spell check me please. I can't be arsed. 🙃 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm frequently proven wrong and love having my prejudices and preconceived ideas challenged. I even find myself challenging my own thoughts and reactions. I take it as a chance to grow and the moment we stop learning and developing life is over in my opinion. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I have unpopular opinions that end up with me being personally denigrated regularly because they are out of the norm, it has nothing to do with being a woman. Sly posts & likes are the norm of my experience. Threats. Labelling. Blocking. Ignoring. I still think people are OK most days, they're doing their best with very different circumstances from me, same as me, as most are. This ties in with thoughts of mine that females have a place of power on this site where they are highly sought after because of the numbers imbalance which I can imagine is exciting... because they call the shots for a change in a world that does have a bias against women but we have the "magic oyster" (quoted from a funny as B grade porn movie lol). The site is aimed at attracting men for sex though, so there is a lack of connection between expectation from both groups (generally speaking). Kind of how the world runs. I do not mean to invalidate anybody's experience when I post the way I do but to raise questions and new thoughts to break out of the old patterns. Patterns that I am aware have been there as long as I have been here, and longer of course. I do explore my own patterns as well. I love being on RHP and threads like this because they excercise my mind and provide stuff to chew over between hubby and I. We don't always agree but we have to live together, so we work it out. I'm proud of that. It is living proof that I am doing OK despite that negative, little voice we all have, mine telling me constantly that I'm a failure and worth nothing. So, I've learned and grown in my 11 years here, some of what I thought I knew has changed, including my view of myself, the world and my place in it. I like to think I'm doing OK, learning and stumbling, as we all do. My thoughts are scattered, I am no confidence freak but I have all these things I learned through counselling that are repeated by quotes all over the place. I am not responsible for other people's feel is one of them. Which led me to a site with an insight I'd like to share. I do see my where what I had before can be replaced for what is right for now. So, as highly sensitive people, we have two choices. We can step into our power and be uncomfortable now, in the present moment, by speaking up for what we need. Or we can choose powerlessness and guarantee that we’ll still feel uncomfortable—and probably angry and bitter—in the future, by suppressing our needs and keeping our mouths shut. I don't think there is any easy solution on this site, you can see on this thread already how touchy people are, Peachy, nothing to do with being a woman
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RHP User
7 years ago
Hi , I quess I can say what its like being on both sides of the fence as to women and men being an intersexed female gives you insights to what its like in a male dominated world and working with men and yes being put down slaked off in terms of your being a female and what men wont to do with a female very down grading this was in the 60,s for me . Women even then were more accepting if you were different as I was then am I still different now yes of cause . it was not about what you wore or how you looked it was about ...YOU... the person to try and act a part did not come into it at all people knew , nothing was said then you move out of the mens world and be with women and was normal .I was not out of the womens world as such just I spent over 40 years working with men more than I did with women,,,, being different was not really the issue being part of our communitys was great you fitted in and became part of what was going on and I still do. what I started to find was over the last 6 years when I was incharge of others who worked for myself and I was the Boss in our section, women had no concerns it was a few men who did not know how to work with a woman with rank NZ Navy , changed how they saw you did they like being bossed by a woman a few did not yet many were cool with me they knew what I was about and could do , What I found in the 80,s I had a job to do so I asked 4 men from our Army to work for me the CO picked 4 men and they were assigned to me as their CO. would it have changed any thing wether I was a male or female maybe I don't know it was about I,m their CO so they did what I asked of them and worked well.you see the uniform does have a bearing on a person. or their Ranking I will say most men I know don't have an issue with me being a disciplined female I,m pretty soft in my nature yet can be tough when needed, I know as I have grown its how I interact with people and more so with men though I worked with and for them I did struggle for a few years I settled down and just got on and did my work great learning expreance. I try not to argue or get on the opinion roll, if some one has another detail they are hard out on I just say,,,okay and don't press it most times I,m quiet and I have many lovely friends are we all the same no each of us is very different, ...Noeleena...
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RHP User
7 years ago
A opinion which I may not agree with but I will always fully support, respect and encourage your right to voice it I have a opinion which you may not always agree with but I hope you fully support , respect and encourage, my right to voice it If you are fi
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RHP User
7 years ago
With long nails If you find that your are constantly being misinterpreted or clashing with others, then perhaps one has to look at the common denominator, being you, and look at reforming the way you to choose to voice your opinions You can’t blame a myriad of excuses. You choose your words, your actions and the way you present yourself to the world
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'sweetnsensual' I'm frequently proven wrong and love having my prejudices and preconceived ideas challenged. I even find myself challenging my own thoughts and reactions. I take it as a chance to grow and the moment we stop learning and developing life is over in my opinion. - Posted from rhpmobile I am not the same person I was five years ago, nor was I the same person then as five years before that. In another five years I will likely not be the same person I am now. The difference may be subtle or glaring, but our experiences - both bad and good - continue to mould us. I know people though who are just immovable objects - they refuse to let anything challenge or change them. That is not to say that they are bad people, they are just narrow-minded and stubborn. I don't associate or socialize in general with these people - even though I may like them as people - as I find them boring.
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RHP User
7 years ago
I've been around long enough and have learn't through engagement in many different types of fora particularly political ones that it's a rarity to change any ones mind on anything. These days if my opinion is polar opposite to someone else, I usually choose to not bother pointlessly investing my time and energy in trying to change their mind, and just disengage or nod and smile.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Like clits...every cunt has one... They’re not fact....they’re a perspective... A statement of fact as per draggy’s example re: shoving kale up ones arse cos it cures cancer.... I’m happy for people to disagree with my perspective, I’m happy for that be either sex as well... I’m also usually happy to agree to disagree on those differences....sometimes though I do find it hard to be open to other people’s perspectives at times, as sometimes I think they’re fucking nutters for having them...but I too am just as nutty in their mind.... But.... I find it more attractive that a potential partner has a perspective that they will voice instead of being some kind of piss weak submissive for the sake of avoiding a discussion and an exploration of our differences....that’s where strong women do in fact catch my eye....they don’t give two fucks if I differ, they just tell it as it is... And if we can’t call each other twits or crazy motherfuckers in the process then I think that’s pretty fucked too tbh....I see that as banter as most topics shouldn’t really be THAT hardcore that you can’t end up laughing at each other and the antics involved .... Meh...I’m a Fucken weirdo - Posted from rhpmobile
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nightingale8
7 years ago
I'm regularly offended by my own opinions. Yeah, she sucks. Shut up brain. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Opinions and facts are two different things. Peachy
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RHP User
7 years ago
A politician is discussing with his wife about how the job is making him feel down. "No one trusts us anymore", he says. "Everything is a lie they say. I just try and do my best but it doesn't matter. I just wish people would look at us as individuals and not as a stereotyped group". His wife suggests: "well there's always that legal degree you can finish, why don't you look at that?" "A lawyer? F**k off, lawyers are all crooks!" CT :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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tcm70
7 years ago
To amiably discuss opinions with non-aggressive people makes for some interesting and great conversations. To me it doesn’t matter whether male, female or any other sexuality. Everyone has their own opinions, which are generally reached from listening to others opinions. So in some ways opinions can be like Chinese whispers in how the end result is far different from the original. I think too many assume that certain opinions are purposefully aimed at them, I’m not referring to anybody from rhp, just a broad opinion I’ve formed in my own mind from experiences that suggest it is so. I do believe that we are all entitled to our own opinions as that is one of the aspects that make us individuals, however we need to remember that our opinions aren’t gospel and to admit that ones opinions are incorrect or misled is not a bad thing, to accept that we may be wrong is a far greater trait than steadfastedly refusing to budge. Arrogance and stubbornness don’t impress me anywhere near as much as humility does. I read a little meme recently that said “just because we disagree with someone, does not mean that we hate or dislike them” I think that’s a lesson that many of us need to learn. I personally love how so many people can have so many varying opinions, it’s not a bad thing at all, it keeps life interesting and offers opportunities for self growth and at times opens my eyes to a point of view I’ve not come across before. It’s just the hostility that can arise from differing opinions that gets to me as I don’t see the need for nastiness in life, let alone for difference in thinking. Well that’s my basic opinion about opinions, right or wrong I do not know, I’ll leave you make your own opinion about it. :)
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RHP User
7 years ago
I see a lot of people here unable to accept others opinions and just let fly. The one thing I have always found interesting about this place unlike so many chats, forums and opinion pages on other sites. As far as supposed open people go opinions here are jumped on regularly and very quickly. Bit saddened and disappointed in that. Anyways shit happens and life goes on.
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
The world is changing by example, not by opinions. (Paul Coelho) Ms Foxy
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RHP User
7 years ago
when it comes to opinions or misinterpretation of them and who they are targeted at. I think I have been so used to being attacked and put down in real life that I automatically assume a not so nice opinion is directed at me personally. I am open to being wrong though - god knows this is a hidden talent of mine lol and am aware that others do not share the same opinion as me and that doesnt make me right or them wrong and vice versa. Yes I am learning to bite my tongue and know when a deabte is amicable and that both sides of the story are being heard and then when its best to just zip it and not say anything as the words coming out of my mouth are not being actively heard. For me its being able to identify that fine line between all parties being active contributors and one party controlling the conversation and not being open to others thoughts and opinions. I have encountered men who don't seem to like a woman having an opinion and this is more so where this topic stemmed from, I did actually after a recent conversation suggest to my partner that if I need to be more meek and submissive to please let me know lol - he's rather adept at putting me in my place in a way that helps me grow and at the same time encouraging me to have a voice becasue I do get things wrong at times..
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honkytonk
7 years ago
maybe we should constructively suggest more and opinionate less. just a thought / opinion bahahahaha
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Seachange73
7 years ago
"Opinions.... Like clits...every cunt has one... " So I sneak back for a bit into the forum and I see this. Lol Geez, nothing much has changed in the Forum. Except for a couple of shiny new trinkets,the forum furniture has remained status quo. So much to catch up to.😄
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RHP User
7 years ago
Everyone is welcome to an opinion - how boring would life be if we didn’t have one? Who wants a bunch of people saying yes sir no sir three bags full sir just to please others.. Heated debates are to be expected.. they fuel the mind and also open minds to those receptive enough And trinkets or furniture - at least those items speak up and have their say and in a manner that doesn’t involve using that incredibly offensive (oops sorry should I not be offended even? Does that offend others that I’m offended? ) c_*• word - Posted from rhpmobile
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
Quoting 'Redmustang' Everyone is welcome to an opinion - how boring would life be if we didn’t have one? Just for discussion purposes. How about trolls? Do we need to hear them? The online world takes away much of the ownership for the spoken word when the poster is basically anonymous. I'm not targeting anyone with this post but it is a fact. We've all seem some complete garbage posted on here and way worse in other online forums(in my opinion). Misogyny, misandry, homophobic, racist etc etc. I'd rather not see those opinions. If I'm not careful they're liable to make me cynical. I guess thats freedom of speech. But on the flip side it can allow truths to be spoken without censorship either personal or from society so thats also a benefit? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Isn’t always right or educated. opinions hurt - trolls have the largest and loudest voices - believe me I know. I’ve been beat down before by people having an opinion of me. Sadly education or lack of, politics, religion, race, experience, up bringing all play a part in opinions - I guess what we need to do is to decide who’s opinion we place faith in, who’s opinion we let affect us. We can’t silence people but we can choose whether we let their voice have power over us. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Strong characters, trolls, prejudice, egos, disrespect and bullying is common place in and outside social media regardless of the gender. I've seen many female trolls bullying other females just for having a different opinion, and same between males. It's just the nature of human beings. ...but then you also find beautiful minds 🙂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'pipsqueak' Peachy you’re calling me a liar, is that correct ? Why would I lie ? You and your opinion of me means nothing to me, I’ve never even interacted with you and like many others won’t in the future. All you ever do is pick on others and stir up issues My original post was not directed to you, not every post is about you or directed at you , so perhaps don’t overthink everything And in parting, if posts arrive in order as you state , not that I know nor has it ever been a issue for me, where is my second post that I did address directly to you ? It’s very convenient that it never appeared but then a long term poster contacted me and told me why they thought my post hadn’t appear It makes sense The forums do not belong to you Peachy, that’s a fact, even though I’m sure you will disagree You lied about how long ago you'd posted. Posts Do arrive in order, and some don't arrive at all if they don't pass moderation, nothing new your post didn't arrive. You are getting your accusations mixed up though, make up your mind, maybe your imaginary friend will drop in to clear up what I've done wrong in pointing out obvious inconsistencies. In consideration of NOT owning the forum, I have not posted on Dragon's thread so she can 100% enjoy that without my presence. Peachy, not about me at all...
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PeterAndLily
7 years ago
I’ve noticed myself that when I talk I tend to state things as fact, whereas when I’ve generally heard women talk they generally state things as opinion. I don’t think necessarily that is correlated with openness to admit being wrong and change perspective, I do think it has to do with childhood gender training and confidence in our opinion. My two cents worth. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Funny this topic should arise as we are new to this site and have started chatting with a quiet a few couples and found that there is a mix of male and female controlling the contact / chat / flirting from their keyboards but it seems there is a mix of dominant minds all trying to be the alpha each and every person has their own personality likes and dislikes and i dont feel it has anything to do with any set gender tbh . We like who we like we dislike who we dislike and in this day an age we have fought throughout time to be able to have that freedom as individuals and as couples ... It takes a bigger man to walk away than to stay and fight so getting riled up and slinging insults to couples in my opinion is extremely childish and selfish especially when your on a site purely for sexual fun and adventure ??? Sometimes what happens is we see people over analyzing every detail instead of having a broad acceptance of other persons situations and needs !!! We also see people jump to conclusions from a simple text more than likely because they are over analyzing a simple text message . Ive even had one person tell me the TONE of my text wasnt appreciated lol and threw a number of insult to not only me but also my wife aswell . All because she was over analyzing and bombarding us with questions and text messages while we out eating dinner in an exclusive restaurant when i stated in these messages over analyzing we were then abused and insulted which was disgusting and childish in my opinion and also my wife who is also an alpha and a director of a international company she likes to be submissive as she spend all day being dominant. But once again we should keep an open mind that other people have other situations going on in their lives and we need to be mindful and considerate of these situations instead of losing our cool and just simply move on ... - Posted from rhpmobile
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SandeGiny
7 years ago
John Oliver famously held a memorial for Facts a few years ago when it became evident the opinions had become more valued in the media. It was meant to be funny but is a startling reflection of where society at large is headed. The fact that people get so wound up over others having a different opinion, based on their own perspective due to upbringing, culture or nationality, gender, body type or skin colour, sexuality, personal experience, values, ethics, religion, education, career, relationships (familial, platonic, professional and sexual), and yes, even their immediate situational awareness and current mood, completely baffles me. I've learnt that sometimes that difference in opinion and accepting it without judgement or trying to empathize can not only enrichen relationships, but I may learn something new or realise I've missed something, just as a fresh set of eyes can pick up when code is wrong or when proofreading a written piece or a building needs safety checks or your car needs a service. I love it when two of my friends argue over political matters on my fb site (its ALWAYS the same two) when I post a meme relating to a matter we feel passionate about. Sometimes I do it just for funsies and sit back with the popcorn for hours of entertainment and education. I find our constant need for validation of our opinions these days to be somewhat disturbing as they are another aspect of our uniqueness as human beings and make life extremely interesting. Imagine if we were all the same? IMHO I think that would be dull as fuck. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I think there’s nothing more powerful or exciting than a strong, intelligent woman who isn’t afraid to express her point of view Redmustang. I fell in love with and married one and we are only interested in meeting ladies of a similar ilk on this site. I would hate to be with a person who didn’t challenge me and who I couldn’t bounce ideas off and ask their opinion on certain things. We’ve spent the last 20 years raising our girls to think exactly that way, and to never let any man set the agenda for how they view themselves or how they should think and act. Any man who considers women anything less than their equal is not an intelligent or enlightened person, in my humble opinion. Really enjoying your posts Redmustang, keep them coming 👍🏼 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Has never been anyone’s talent - definitely not mine - and as such if you are in a situation where you are being communicated with and are unable to communicate back it helps to communicate this to the other person. Just saying.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Its funny how an opinion can be made of someone without meeting them as well. We were told we were too experienced for a couple recently and were only going to meet them for tea. We were very aware they were first timers and we have only been exploring since last year. An opinion was made of us then a polite message sent and then we were blocked lol.Not sure how much slower we could have taken it lol We all have opinions of our own self others politics the economy. Of what we want and what others want. I agree Redmustang that communication is the key to forming an opinion
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Seachange73
7 years ago
I think your attack on Pip above is out of line and way off topic. Quite disrespectful to the OP. This obsession with Pip is strange but not surprising coming from you. If you have doubts about her authenticity, please feel free to escalate to the mods rather than hijacking every thread in the forum on proving her profile fake. Just disrespectful and shameful behaviour towards the OP. My opinion. My apologies for digressing OP.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Yes to form an opinion you need to know a few thingsLove it when a man gets all shirty because a woman has a strong mind and is after some information to base an opinion on lol I guess some men dont know how to communicate and hate being questioned The questions dont have to be answered there and then and being polite is very important
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RHP User
7 years ago
I dunno, I do my best and I do OK. I try to base what I post on actual facts and my opinions of behaviours and because it's too easy as I see so often in the forum to debase someone's character with disingenuous posts, or by posting your 'opinion' of them including accusations that they have connections behind the scenes. I have noticed people do misunderstand a LOT in the forums. I made that comment in my first post, based on how many multiple misunderstandings there were in the first few posts. Sometimes people seek to clear up these misunderstandings, some seek to muddy the waters under the bridge further. Seachange, I'm sorry you feel that way, sadly the initial posts where I was the one approached are gone now, so meh, lol. Peachy, spoke the truth but the control of the writing of history's pages by the victors is how history is formed
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Checker
7 years ago
Agree very much with what Deepest Purple has to say. I believe educating yourself and reading is a great way to broaden your mind. It certainly softens the way you present your own thoughts and experiences and reassures you with actual knowledge if your dealing with someone assertive or over confident. It's probably also worthwhile factoring in the setting such as work, club meetings, BBQ's, because each situation in which you exchange information will come with its own unique mechanics. If some girl or dude at a BBQ holds me in a lesser light because of an opinion, that speaks more about them than what it should about me. By 'should', I would assume that the vast majority of people have fairly 'informed opinions' so the setting would be inherently fairly objective and 'mature'. Personally, I couldn't care less about the gender of the opinion and I detest group think. Group think is why bitter troglodytes like Clementine Ford get air time. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Checker
7 years ago
Annie Lennox is fantastic however. A great ambassador for womens rights and women. Smart and strong. - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Quoting 'PeachySxynIknoIt' I dunno, I do my best and I do OK. I try to base what I post on actual facts and my opinions of behaviours and because it's too easy as I see so often in the forum to debase someone's character with disingenuous posts, or by posting your 'opinion' of them including accusations that they have connections behind the scenes. Well least there is nothing disingenious about my posts regarding yourself and your behaviour. I am fully on board and sincere about my feelings.And if you keep pestering a certain member as you have been l will report you to the mods. Once again you are embarking on a cat fishing expedition that in previous occasions has caused threads to be deleted and members marganlised.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Redmustang, it is unfortunate that many men and women have the history you have outlined and the worst part is the self anger for having put up wit it...its always a balance between self assertion and compromise, between acceptance and insistence but there is a current at present towards unanimity of opinion that is troubling.....
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RHP User
7 years ago
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
everyone can have an opinion but it’s how you voice your opinion is to whether it’s heard or not ,but that just my opinion .lmao mr b - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
To an opinion and very rarely will you find someone who’s opinion is the exact same as yours. I don’t care that people have differing opinions it makes for great debate and personal growth - I’m constantly learning and adapting and I am happy to that. However I feel that women today sometimes still feel that they can’t have a voice as they get best down by men for having one. It’s not deemed dainty and appropriate and could be considered by some men today as a woman stepping outside their “role”. This is what I disagree with. I have a voice I will use it. I will be wrong at time and I will be happy to admit that. But I will not be silenced. I will learn to control my voice and when to concede and not necessarily let the other person win but recognise when the fight is simply not worth it. And I have learnt that lesson recently. Anytime we learn is a step forward for us as individuals. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Redmustang' To an opinion and very rarely will you find someone who’s opinion is the exact same as yours. I don’t care that people have differing opinions it makes for great debate and personal growth - I’m constantly learning and adapting and I am happy to that. However I feel that women today sometimes still feel that they can’t have a voice as they get best down by men for having one. It’s not deemed dainty and appropriate and could be considered by some men today as a woman stepping outside their “role”. This is what I disagree with. I have a voice I will use it. I will be wrong at time and I will be happy to admit that. But I will not be silenced. I will learn to control my voice and when to concede and not necessarily let the other person win but recognise when the fight is simply not worth it. And I have learnt that lesson recently. Anytime we learn is a step forward for us as individuals. Thanks for your thoughts, I agree that some women still feel they can't have a voice... But it's not just men who put them down for it. I blame societal expectations and wonder if it's not time we were all given a basis of understanding that doesn't have us on various sides of the fence. Bearing in mind there is a no man's land in the war of the sexes. Speaking as a woman who grew up never really thinking into the depth of what I was supposed to be objecting to as a woman, my thoughts go to my life experiences which is where a lot of our opinions are formed... I've had & got all sorts of those! They gave me life lessons, my ability to keep moving forward and my ability to speak out without any learned fear of being a woman. Learning as an individual is something I recommend highly, relying on yourself because you're the only one that's always going to be there. Peachy
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RHP User
7 years ago
Hell hasn’t frozen over here yet lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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Checker
7 years ago
Roles are fairly fluid nowadays. Very few men I know would begrudge a lady her voice. Are we shifting from Opinions to Sexism? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
No I don’t feel that there’s a shift from opinions to sexism - that’s not what this stems from... I’ve encountered many a man whom doesn’t like me to express myself to them or tonquestion them yet think it acceptable that my partner to do it on my behalf? Peachy - agreed that it’s not specifically limited to men and that society in general seems to look differently at an opinionated woman. I often wonder why some women don’t want to have a voice. It frustrates me that they don’t speak up. I know sometimes it’s not a matter of don’t want a voice but rather aren’t allowed a voice because of culture, education or whatnot - but where you are able to use your voice why not do it? - Posted from rhpmobile
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Checker
7 years ago
These anecdotes are unfortunate but I would suggest that perhaps they may occur more or less within certain societal demographics as opposed to male attitudes in general. In general, I disagree that in males under about 40 years old womens opinions are valued less or opressed at all. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Redmustang'Peachy - agreed that it’s not specifically limited to men and that society in general seems to look differently at an opinionated woman. I often wonder why some women don’t want to have a voice. It frustrates me that they don’t speak up. I know sometimes it’s not a matter of don’t want a voice but rather aren’t allowed a voice because of culture, education or whatnot - but where you are able to use your voice why not do it? The only thing is... having strong opinions is not the same as being opinionated and I wonder if people mix that up too often. I understand a lot of the reasons women don't step up, to be honest. It's no an easy thing to hold a strong voice under the weight of society's expectations when it is voiced loudly in objection. Interestingly, I spotted a story written by Rohan Smith in the last few days that mentioned a woman named Sydney Watson coming to Melbourne to host a march for Men's Rights. The beginning of the story began with... A PRO-GUN, anti-feminist, half-American Donald Trump supporter is asking for money to help fund a “March for Men” in Melbourne next month..That said all I needed to know about the news writer's bias for her before I even read the story which was more based on negative comments on other actions of hers than the news of a men's march. Cheers, I'll be following the story...
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RHP User
7 years ago
I must say I have nothing against the opinions; yet, I am not particularly interested in them. I like conversations and informed arguments, during which people try, not to prove anything, nor to just present their opinions but to explore the subject. Interestingly, we cannot do that with just anyone. I do think before I speak; however, what annoys me, in my own reasoning as well and as in others, is inconsistency. I am aware though that there is an association between the ability to control emotions with being bullying in cyberspace. What I like most of all is when I talk with someone and their eyes just light up when a subject matter piques their curiosity. (Ms)
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couplecourious
7 years ago
I think Redmustang, you are right to be asking this question. Society I feel is slipping backwards in how women are treated. There is a lot of Lip service given to womens equality, equal pay etc... Yet when i walk down any street in various towns and cities i hear teenage boys, and in their mid twenties calling their girl friends bitches and generally speaking to them like dirt. 40 years of hard fought gains are being pissed down the drain by a fair proportion of the celebrity obsessed selfie generation. Before we know it our children will be living the Handmaids tale nightmare, with a Tony Abbott clone as a Prime Minister. Have your opinion. Shout it louder. Get your kids to shout it, demand your politicians hear it. And ignore Trolls. Always. Mr Courious.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Thank you Mr Courious - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Every opinion is valid However not every opinion is correct... and not every opinion can be supported or backed up by that person expressing it
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RHP User
7 years ago
I could say that in my personal opinion you are sexist, over opiniated & possibly have narcissistic tendencies. Oh hang on, would that be just an opinion or an attack, I am confused !! Personally I think you have been overly aggressive in your non acceptance of other peoples opinions. But that's just my opinion
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RHP User
7 years ago
I am respectful that you have your own opinion, which I will read or listen to, but respect the right to have my own opinion. I do not agree with this rubbish male / female bullshit, all have opinions that should be listened too (then discounted and the woman sent back to the kitchen barefoot to cook dinner) (just kidding for all of those sensitive people)
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Quoting 'Single_Guy4U' I could say that in my personal opinion you are sexist, over opiniated & possibly have narcissistic tendencies. Oh hang on, would that be just an opinion or an attack, I am confused !! Personally I think you have been overly aggressive in your non acceptance of other peoples opinions. But that's just my opinion The OP has consistently been aggressive in her postings But that's my opinion..
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tcm70
7 years ago
“They laugh at me because I am different. I laugh at them because they are all the same.“ Kurt Cobain.
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
That a post was deleted doesnt detract from accusing someone that they are single because of having opinions. I personally find it disgusting. Says so much about the person that said it and their aggresive behaviour toward people that post that may not agree with the OPs opinion.
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