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Plasma
June 04 2013
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm English and apparently that makes me a Mad Cow :o I miss donating. My blood was used for neonates in Blighty. Can't answer your question Sweets but just wanted to say I have no issues reading non-sex threads. Will follow this with interest x- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
so does my opinion amount to anything? I guess not .... so i'll just go back under my rock and just keep talking about sex ...
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RHP User
13 years ago
That I will no longer be able to donate, as I was just discussing blood donation yesterday with a Gay friend of mine, who mentioned that he was not allowed to donate because of his sexual preference, and having had protected sex with his partner, even though both men are regularly tested, and have never been infected or carry an STI. I have religously given blood, plasma and platletes as often as I can between he mandatory periods ater having been tattooed (it's now 6months, but was once 12months after) since I was 20. In the weekend just passed I had one of the most amazing sexual experiences of my life, I fulfilled many fantasies and curiousities, one of which was sex (protected of course) with another man, and am now faced with the prospect that I will no longer be allowed to donate blood due to my sexual preferences, regardless of my health.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sometimes plasma is used by the Red Cross to make vaccines ie tetanus toxoid. They draw a unit of blood, give back the Red cells to the donor then use the plasma for all sorts of reasons. Plasma can be used in similar situations to whole blood, for bleeders who need help with clotting factors, people in extremis who may not need whole blood but blood expanders for shock. Less so these days in neonates as other solutions are used first. But anyone who has a low platelet count would greatly benefit from your donations. Well done, you are helping to save lives.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Your question on how frequently it's used, well in major trauma hospitals it probably is used on an hourly basis, in most major hospitals I would say definitely many times a day. Hope this helps.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I donate blood when I can, I can only give blood my veins are not to good for plasma donation, I asked them,and yes you see more men then women on this machines.Hmm didn't know the implications of donating plasma only that it will help people.
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RHP User
13 years ago
If I can stay off the floor!! Having had a few bad experiences with chemo I am a little shy of the needle!! But I believe it is 10 years post cancer before you can donate again. Correct me if I'm wrong........... I now also have prosthetics in my body so haven't been able to donate blood for many years but still the plasma. Interesting to hear that it used!!! I have seen 1st hand full transfusions to my daughter. And have always appreciated the gift of blood donors😇 Gypsy💋- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
question?is it because of anal sex? Please could you ask the question, because I have been denied giving blood this was now 12 month ago, now I can go again, because I was honest and told them I had sex with a Bi man. And I think you should be honest what ever they ask you. After she said I cant donate this time, I ask the question and it was a pretty YES.So I am asking what about all straight people and anal sex???? She couldn't say, because this question is not ask when u say you have sex with a straight man.So I am not even in anal sex, but it doesn't make a difference.Would be interesting to hear why.
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sweetgem
13 years ago
Thank you for the info. It is good to know that plasma is needed and used as frequently as whole blood. Charity contribution has been one of my passions to pursue since I was a teen, but I have only learned about plasma last year, and so I've only started donating plasma since. I believe, everything in this world operates in cycle form, you help others today and they'll help you tomorrow :-)- Posted from rhpmobile
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sweetgem
13 years ago
Before I start providing info on your question, I must make it clear that my comment is purely made based on what I've learned from reading articles about blood donation. Therefore, I am not being bias nor discriminating against anyone who is into same gender sex, etc. According to what I was given to read when I first began donating blood, and with personal interest research over years, Bi and gay men are considered to be at high risk for HIV/AIDS, because the AIDS pandemic was first identified in gay communities. This group of men are also at high risk for some types of sex diseases, which can be transmitted in blood transfusions. Therefore, if anyone (both men and women) has had sexual intercourse with bi and gay men, they would be considered at high risk of STI infection. Hence, Red Cross rather be cautious than giving exception to certain bi and gay men even if they have test results to prove that they're clean. So why do RC think that straight people who have had anal sex might not be considered at high risk you might ask, well I guess they do have that in mind too, but because there is no clear evidence to prove that straight people who have anal sex are also at high risk for being infected with HIV/AIDS, they just give the exception. Besides, RC need people to donate blood, so if they rule out straight people who are into anal sex as well, then how many are left to donate blood? The blood banks worldwide would be very short of supply for emergency use if they get too restricted is my guess. One thing RC do ask the straight people to answer honestly though, is whether they have had sexual intercourse or not with sex workers in the days before their donation appointment. So I guess RC are also applying the restriction on straight people in a different way :-)- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Blood donation clinics usually have doctors working in labs out the back somewhere, ( well the larger ones do anyway) so you could call and ask to speak to a doctor, he will give you all the answers to your questions and more. If there is not one in attendance, you can call your local hospital and ask to speak to a haematologist, as most hospitals have a blood bank. They will be only too happy to talk to you as they like to keep the donors happy. Hope this helps.
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RHP User
13 years ago
You are so right. Every one should donate at least 1 year out of their lifetime if they are able. Probably the worst thing I have ever seen in my working life is an infant bleeding out. If it weren't for donors so many more people would die needlessly.
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RHP User
13 years ago
At the moment in short supply The Australian government is buying it from overseas. Intragam is a product derived from plasma donations it's used to flood the body with pure antibodies to boost immune systems it is well screened in Australia for impurities as it is a blood product. The overseas versions Octagam and kiavic do the same job but if are on it they ask you to read the possible contaminations due to it being produced overseas, so don't use it and maybe die or use it and maybe catch a disease hmmm catch22. 200ml requires 4 donors So if you can donate please do as 1 in 3 will require it in their life time.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sweetgem' Before I start providing info on your question, I must make it clear that my comment is purely made based on what I've learned from reading articles about blood donation. Therefore, I am not being bias nor discriminating against anyone who is into same gender sex, etc. According to what I was given to read when I first began donating blood, and with personal interest research over years, Bi and gay men are considered to be at high risk for HIV/AIDS, because the AIDS pandemic was first identified in gay communities. This group of men are also at high risk for some types of sex diseases, which can be transmitted in blood transfusions. Therefore, if anyone (both men and women) has had sexual intercourse with bi and gay men, they would be considered at high risk of STI infection. Hence, Red Cross rather be cautious than giving exception to certain bi and gay men even if they have test results to prove that they're clean. So why do RC think that straight people who have had anal sex might not be considered at high risk you might ask, well I guess they do have that in mind too, but because there is no clear evidence to prove that straight people who have anal sex are also at high risk for being infected with HIV/AIDS, they just give the exception. Besides, RC need people to donate blood, so if they rule out straight people who are into anal sex as well, then how many are left to donate blood? The blood banks worldwide would be very short of supply for emergency use if they get too restricted is my guess. One thing RC do ask the straight people to answer honestly though, is whether they have had sexual intercourse or not with sex workers in the days before their donation appointment. So I guess RC are also applying the restriction on straight people in a different way :-)- Posted from rhpmobile Gay and bi men can give blood but only if they haven't had oral or anal sex with another man in the last 12 months (obviously not very realistic for most). The 12 month deferral also applies to women who have had sex with a man who has had oral or anal sex with another man (as Litonya pointed out). There was a review last year which recommended that the period be reduced to 6 months but that's still obviously not going to be realistic for most. As a lot of people point out, the deferrals on people due to their sexual orientation is outdated, and harks back to the hysteria and myths around AIDS being a 'gay disease' back in the 80s. And it seems that a lot of the research used by the FDA - and by similar organisations in other countries - to justify the deferrals, is based on HIV rates among gay men with risky sexual behaviours, e.g. casual unprotected sex with a lot of different partners. If studies include those who are in monogamous relationships and practice 'safer' sex, HIV rates are often lower than among the heterosexual population. It's ridiculous that a gay man who is in a monogamous relationship, always uses protection, and gets tested regularly cannot give blood, but a straight guy who fucks a different girl every week without protection and hasn't had an STI test in his life can give with no problem. Therefore, like many people state, blood donation exclusion should be based on questions and answers not about sexual orientation, but about people's risk- taking behaviour in general. Yes of course people can lie but all of the collected blood is screened extensively, and this screening has become much more effective over the years as technology has developed, and the 'window' period between infection and antibody detection has reduced significantly. I gave blood a few times, but then I was found to have very low iron levels and advised to stop. That was a few years ago so I might try again and see how I go. But I won't be able to for awhile anyway since I'm going to get a couple piercings soon.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'anythingrightnow'I will no longer be able to donate... due to my sexual preferences, regardless of my health. I used to donate plasma every month, had given full blood and plasma several dozen times, but am no longer allowed to. It's worth noting that, as Luckdragon has pointed out, most reviews in different countries are moving towards relaxing or removing those restrictions (at the end of 2011 for instance the UK removed their 'lifetime ban' and installed a 'within 12 months' rule, bringing it in line with Australia's current practice, which is considered one of the more liberal ones.) It's a shame, as I did actually enjoy doing so, and am willing to donate, but not able to. The restrictions are not a very considered or practical understanding of risk, and pay no attention to the individual - they group all gay and bisexual men's sexual activity as the same, when there are just as many levels of risk as the straight community. At the end of the day, I think it's absurd that a gay man in a monogamous relationship who uses condoms and has been tested is banned, but a straight man who has unprotected sex with a different woman every week is not. That's not science and statistics.
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sweetgem
13 years ago
The safety measure of who is able and unable to donate blood, plasma and platlets is stupid and unfair in my opinion! What if there were more straight people becoming bi or gay due to personal reasons, then where would the blood banks maintain to obtain the real blood, plasma and platlets from?!- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sweetgem'What if there were more straight people becoming bi or gay due to personal reasons, then where would the blood banks maintain to obtain the real blood, plasma and platlets from?! I think I got a little lost between the "becoming bi or gay due to personal reasons" and "real blood". Would you mind clarifying? I too fully agree that the restrictions based on sexual orientation are ludricrous. As for myself, I wish I could still donate. Unfortunately I'm banned due to a medical condition.
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sweetgem
13 years ago
What I meant when I said: "What if there were more straight people becoming bi or gay due to personal reasons" was some men might only have discovered about their sexual preferences (i.e. bi or gay or both preferences) at a later stage of their lives and started following their desires; or there could be some men who might have gone through a traumatic impact in their lives which might lead them to change their sexual preferences. I see all these possibilities as a personal reason for change, but I do not mean anything rude or bad. As for the "real blood, plasma and platlets" line, I meant the blood, plasma and platlets that are taken from human donors instead of buying from overseas (like catchup62 said) which nobody can guarantee if they are 100% real and diseases free or not. Maybe I worry or freak out too much about this lol but as a regular donor, I do care about this thing :-)- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'anythingrightnow' That I will no longer be able to donate, as I was just discussing blood donation yesterday with a Gay friend of mine, who mentioned that he was not allowed to donate because of his sexual preference, and having had protected sex with his partner, even though both men are regularly tested, and have never been infected or carry an STI. I have religously given blood, plasma and platletes as often as I can between he mandatory periods ater having been tattooed (it's now 6months, but was once 12months after) since I was 20. In the weekend just passed I had one of the most amazing sexual experiences of my life, I fulfilled many fantasies and curiousities, one of which was sex (protected of course) with another man, and am now faced with the prospect that I will no longer be allowed to donate blood due to my sexual preferences, regardless of my health. So, if I for example I then went and had protected sex with two men who just had sex together I can can't give blood either? Is that how it works?Bummer.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I also was not allowed for a long time because I lived in the UK during the mad cow scare. Not sure if that has been lifted?
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