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Please define Caucasian
February 23 2014
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RHP User
12 years ago
If i remember my social studies correctly, Caucasian/white is a race (biological human classification) same as mongoloid/asian and negroid/black. Ethnicity on the other hand is the culture and language of a group of people. If you put caucasian in your profile and without seeing you, I would assume that you are "white". If you put asian in your profile without a pic, I wouldn't know. Being asian myself, it can get quite confusing as there are quite a few classifications of being asian (in my eyes) there are the chinese/japanese asians, the south-east asians (malay), the central asians (indians), etc. I believe that if you were born in australia from asian heritage, that still makes you an asian. Same as if you were born in singapore from caucasian parents, that would still make you caucasian. Anyways, I don't think it would matter in 50 years, there probably wouldn't be a "race" as there is so much inter-racial partnership nowadays. Hopefully by then the whole world will be a mixture of all the races and there would be less hatred in the world as people would not be defining themselves by the colour of their skin.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Caucasian refers to a certain broad racial classification based on features, and takes its name from the caucasus region - so you clearly don't look like you'd fit into that (nor the Australoid, or Negroid groups in that terminology) Yes, if someone put Caucasian and argued it was because your parents were Aussies then I would call foul - if they insisted I'd write them off as daft. Why, did this happen?
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RHP User
12 years ago
The basic definition of Caucasian is someone with white skin , of European descent . The general consensus is that ultimately , all Humans will be brown . The World is a huge melting pot . But skin colour has no bearing on a person's true nature . It's what's within them that defines them . If you are born in Australia , you are Australian , regardless of your ethnic background . That is not to say that you shouldn't honour your Cultural Heritage . The definition of an Australian does not mean Caucasian . GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Um I thought Caucasian meant white. Asian meant Asian. But I could be wrong - Posted from rhpmobile
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gazpacho
12 years ago
I think you identify as Asian, only by reason that you say so in the words: a photo of me revealed that I was a full Asian. Of course this doesn't change the fact that you are Australian. My cultural upbringing basically requires me to ask: "Where are you from?". It is basically culturally required because establishing the origins helps clarify first, how we are related... What connections we have in common, if any. " Where are you from" is not the offensive question so many people seem to take it to mean... "I'm Australian", they"ll say in an offended tone. That answer is not helpful. "Where are you from?" Requires a more specific answer... For example, I grew up in Moree" is an appropriate response because it enables the asker to connect you to a specific place, in a context of environment and family.... From there connections can be found... The question "where are you from?" Is a genuine enquiry and a culturally specific method of establishing a meaningful conversation by meeting eye to eye from the outset. People have nothing to defend. I identify as Caucasian because that's how I look. I don't look like any other ethnicity. As for my genetic origins... Well, how the hell would I know? We've really only had DNA testing for the last 20 years or so and before that, how could anyone truly know with 100% certainty, who the hell fucked great grandma? Hugs Gazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
What S said. Nationality and race are two different things. I'm white. I'm also Australian, even though I wasn't born or raised here. I am an Australian citizen and no longer Dutch, as The Netherlands don't allow dual citizenship. I do make sure I tell people before we talk on the phone or meet, as I don't want them to be surprised by my accent.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Caucasian is simply someone white
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RHP User
12 years ago
That Caucasian is an heredity factor of origin, if that makes sense? If your earliest ancestors were Asian, but you now look Caucasian because of intermarriage of numerous races, your genetic makeup would still be Asian. It's all in the genes. Bet this stirs the pot a bit.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'nitetime85'Caucasian is simply someone white I had a Caucasian (Hungarian) boyfriend who was so dark at times he looked more Polynesian than white.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'fitzychick' Um I thought Caucasian meant white. Asian meant Asian. But I could be wrong - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Can I just start... Please don't feel as though you were in the wrong. The English language and the many interpretations can be confusing. Ethnicity is distinguished by your heritage, if you feel that being of Asian decent born in Australia to which you acknowledge yourself as Caucasian then you are entitled to consider yourself as a mix race. Now mix race is however recognized as 2 parents who's individual DNA is made up of different races not particularly based on cultural choice, like as you would treat your religious beliefs. At the end of the day be confident in how you recognize yourself. If you don't want to be a sheep like the rest of the world, then you don't have to conform to others negative opinions regardless of their intentions. Just be sure that you are upfront when you begin chatting. To be on these sites you have the right to cut ties without notice and be very selective to whom you invite into your inner circle.
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Sweet Gem I am of Asian descent and sensually proud of it. I would NEVER in a million years would put down my heritage as Caucasian or otherwise. I am proudly Asian with an Australian upbringing,. To put anything otherwise is truly misleading and almost, personally, quite insulting. Why do such a thing? Only if you are ashamed of your background or is this a way for you to attract more attention to yourself? I just wonder. In my personal opioion, if a man is not attracted to Asians, then SO BE IT. We are, like everybody else, not everyone's cup of tea. The more energy for you to focus on the men who will appreciate sexy, sensual exotic beings that we are. Don't hide behind a facade and be surprised that the men who contacted you are annoyed to find something else. LET'S GET REAL! With regards to age, some men look younger or older than their actual chronological age and I can live with that but I have a choice to meet or chat with them after viewing their pics. The perceived age deviation from the actual age will determine whether I end up chatting with them or going to bed with them. But Honey, you can not hide from being ASIAN. Just insulting to myself and to the men in population out there. Just call a spade a spade....
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't thinkit matters where you were born, your DNA determines whether your caucasian, asian, negriod, etc. and it doesn't matter a jot as to whether your sexy or attractive or even a nice person.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Space bar !.........so spaced out I forgot the space bar
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' Sweet Gem I am of Asian descent and sensually proud of it. I would NEVER in a million years would put down my heritage as Caucasian or otherwise. I am proudly Asian with an Australian upbringing,. To put anything otherwise is truly misleading and almost, personally, quite insulting. Why do such a thing? Only if you are ashamed of your background or is this a way for you to attract more attention to yourself? I just wonder. I think if you read sweetgem's post again, you will find that you have misinterpreted her - she said you should be truthful about your heritage and background. I get the impression that it is someone else who has done the 'mis-representing'.
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Quoting 'Luckdragon23' Quoting 'lilyorchid' Sweet Gem I am of Asian descent and sensually proud of it. I would NEVER in a million years would put down my heritage as Caucasian or otherwise. I am proudly Asian with an Australian upbringing,. To put anything otherwise is truly misleading and almost, personally, quite insulting. Why do such a thing? Only if you are ashamed of your background or is this a way for you to attract more attention to yourself? I just wonder. I think if you read sweetgem's post again, you will find that you have misinterpreted her - she said you should be truthful about your heritage and background. I get the impression that it is someone else who has done the 'mis-representing'. I just re-read Sweet Gems post, Point taken. I quickly read it on a break at work and what a weird question. all is hypothetical then. thanks for the clarification.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'nitetime85'Caucasian is simply someone white I had a Caucasian (Hungarian) boyfriend who was so dark at times he looked more Polynesian than white. one of my old teammates had dutch heritage and was quite dark, up till halfway through, his high school had always just assumed he was Aboriginal. (his brother was the same, but got much lighter as he got older) Quoting 'dacougarbitch' That Caucasian is an heredity factor of origin, if that makes sense? If your earliest ancestors were Asian, but you now look Caucasian because of intermarriage of numerous races, your genetic makeup would still be Asian. It's all in the genes. Bet this stirs the pot a bit. you would be a mix of both, not just the Asian part. Besides conditions linked to one chromosome or the other, you don't really get a choice on which branch of the tree you retrospectively follow ;)
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Smilingwithfun
12 years ago
Caucasion is a term created by a German named Meiners. It relates to an area of were you are from, nothing to do with skin colour. He related the world to either Caucasions or Mongolions.
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Thank you everyone for your detailed comments and interpretation of the term "Caucasian" :-) Caucasian to me means white westerners. And I agree that "Australian" is only a nationality, not a race, hence I always say I am Aussie when I go overseas :-)
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose'Yes, if someone put Caucasian and argued it was because your parents were Aussies then I would call foul - if they insisted I'd write them off as daft. Why, did this happen? I have friends from all sorts of walks and ethnic backgrounds, so no problems in that department. However, I do have a preference of race when it comes to either dating, or bonking, or marrying someone. Therefore, it annoys the crap out of me when I am being misled by people who are not Caucasian, but claim to be one! And yes, it has happened a few times since I joined RHP! Such a time waster those dishonest men!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Calling all cars, calling all cars, and you have three types of they will call. Its all to do with the origins of man, from the old times off looking where people came from. They measured skulls etc. now yes we are all mixed to a degree, but also different as far as structure goes, just ask CSI But to me, I have an attraction too particular types and though I have tried a few times with different ethnic groups I prefer the tall white dudes. Though I have had a great time with some guys from the Middle east, talk dark and very handsome. I have been out with a couple of hot looking black guys but found that when it came to do the wild thing, I had no sexual response. sorry Densil Washington, yes I know I knocked you back but hey a girl was not feeling the luuuuuv Asian guys , same deal just nothing happens in the endorphin zone. So I guess on sites like this , that is focused on physical attraction and rolls in the sheets, then people look at the exterior before the other things. This does not mean I would be turned off just because someone was from a different race, I mean if the pussy had the twinge you could be from Mars, but so far its just the tall white dudes that do it for me. I put it on my profile , and I think that if a guy that was hot for black chicks met me if I had put Black chick he would be very annoyed. I guess like age stuff, or what ever, its more a question of honesty in advertising the goodies. Now lets talk about misleading dick sizes....
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' Sweet Gem I am of Asian descent and sensually proud of it. I would NEVER in a million years would put down my heritage as Caucasian or otherwise. I am proudly Asian with an Australian upbringing,. To put anything otherwise is truly misleading and almost, personally, quite insulting. Why do such a thing? Only if you are ashamed of your background or is this a way for you to attract more attention to yourself? I just wonder. If you care to check out my profile, I am sure that I do put my ethnic background down as Asian! And for those good RHPers whom have met me in person and/or been chatting to me on here for a long time, they can prove that I have never claimed myself to be a Caucasian woman! So no, I don't feel one bit ashamed of my own background! :-) As for the attention seeking criticism, you don't even know me, have never chatted to me on here, I am curious what makes you think that of me??? :-) Again, the regular Forums participants (whom care to get to know me) can tell you that Sweetgem is in fact the opposite from being an attention seeker! :-)
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid'With regards to age, some men look younger or older than their actual chronological age and I can live with that but I have a choice to meet or chat with them after viewing their pics. The perceived age deviation from the actual age will determine whether I end up chatting with them or going to bed with them. But Honey, you can not hide from being ASIAN. Just insulting to myself and to the men in population out there. Just call a spade a spade.... Again, you're being judgmental here lilyorchid! You don't know me, you don't know what kind of liars I have come across on this site, but yet you went on making a criticism against me and at the same time, you made a big deal about how proud you were of your background, etc. etc. Are you sure that I am the attention seeker, and not you?! :-) Ridiculous!!!
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'LadyTuscan'Now lets talk about misleading dick sizes.... For the laugh........hahahahahahahaha
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sweetgem
12 years ago
I put myself down as the subject of the scenario mentioned in my original post, because I do not want to mention the real race of those fake Caucasians, whom I've encountered, due to privacy reason and their real ethnic backgrounds should be respected regardless!!! Hence, my apologies to anyone who might find my questions are weird, or cannot understand my style of writing. But the majority of you seem to have no problem in understanding my Thread! :-) I also apologise for my insufficient English language skills due to the fact that English is indeed my 4th language! :-) So, you can imagine how hard it is for me to keep up with not asking weird questions! 😈 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
It goes back to German anthropologist Friedrich Blumenbach. In his work in the late 1700s and early 1800s, Blumenbach divided Homo sapiens into five distinct races based on their physical characteristics. There was the Mongolian, or “yellow,” race, the red American race, the brown Malayan race, the black Ethiopian race, and the white Caucasian race. While he looked at a lot of physical traits to carve out his categories, Blumenbach thought characteristics of the skull—the size and angle of the forehead, jawbone, teeth, eye sockets, etc.—were especially important. He thought that the skulls of Georgians were exemplary of the characteristics of his white race and named the group after the Caucasus Mountain Range that runs along Georgia’s northern border. All this makes Blumenbach sound like a forerunner of phrenology, and “scientific” attempts to justify discrimination, but while he categorized the races, Blumenbach didn’t put them in a hierarchy and protested any attempts to misuse his groupings to divide people or paint one group as inferior to another. “Blumenbach wrote forcefully of the kindredness of the human races…he opposed the stress on racial hierarchies of worth by more conservative colleagues in his own university and elsewhere in Europe,” historian Nell Irvin Painter writes. “Throughout his work, and especially in the definitive 1795 edition of De generis humani varietate nativa (On the Natural Variety of Mankind), Blumenbach rejected racial hierarchy and emphasized the unity of mankind.” Blumenbach’s Caucasians weren’t even strictly white or European, as the term is commonly used today. He described this “variety” as “Colour white, cheeks rosy; hair brown or chestnut-colored; head sub-globular; face oval, straight, its parts moderately defined, forehead smooth, nose narrow, slightly hooked, mouth small…To this first variety belong the inhabitants of Europe (except the Lapps and the remaining descendants of the Finns) and those of Eastern Asia, as far as the river Obi, the Caspian Sea and the Ganges; and lastly, those of Northern Africa.” The synonymity of Caucasian and white, and the use of racial lines as discriminatory tools, came later and from other men. Painter specifically calls out “Dutch anatomist, Petrus Camper, whose ‘facial angles’ proves so useful to scientific racists' so-called ‘Great Chain of Being’,” and his “racist elaborators (like Edward Tyson, Josiah Nott, G. R. Gliddon, and even Johann Caspar Lavater) [who] placed Negroes and Kalmucks as close to apes as to Europeans.” Today “Caucasian” lacks any real scientific meaning (though its cousin “Caucasoid” is still used in some disciplines), but hangs on in common usage as a blanket term for white/European people. Information courtesy of Mental Floss I have various on my profile, as there is no choice that describes my race.
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Reading your posts, I automatically assumed English was your first language. You really must stop apologising. You write better than many. Hugs Gazpacho
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sweetgem
12 years ago
For your kind words and compliment :-) English is really not my first language, nor the second or third, it truly is my fourth :-) I didn't come to Australia until I was in my early teenage, and I came from a country where, back then, English was like an alien language to me! Meaning I had not heard it before (knew there was such a language, but never heard of what it sounded like, etc.). - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Obviously, for an accurate definition of these terms for racial classification, you could have googled it so I'm assuming the purpose of your post was to discover how different people interpret the word 'Caucasian'. That's fair enough as there are as many variants to Caucasian as there are to Asian (eg. the variances between Norwegians and Greeks). Some people would exclude those of Mediteranean descent from their interpretation of 'white' while others wouldn't.Race doesn't really concern me although ethnicity can. I find that the values instilled in people from some cultures don't meld well with our own. I don't intend to go into that however and will say no more on the subject.What I would like to add, even though it's not strictly on subject, is my respect for any multi-lingual person. I did very poorly in languages at school. Later on, I had a girlfriend from Chile and although we were together for several years, I couldn't pick up more than a few words and phrases in Spanish. I wanted to so as to be included in conversation with her family and I did try but ended up putting it in the 'too hard basket'.Sometimes, especially when written on a computer screen, the intent of a person's words can be misinterpreted. This occurs even when the language in use is a person's native tongue but when it is a second language even more so. This can lead to misunderstandings and frayed nerves. Without face to face discussion, where intonation and body language help us interpret another's message, we need to practise more patience to avoid conflict.Sweetgem, I think you express yourself superbly, especially as English seemed so alien to you to begin with. If people misunderstand you at first, give us time and we'll get the picture eventually. Remember, many of us are only just bright enough to master one language.
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RHP User
12 years ago
there's actually no such thing as 'race' in humans, though I think it's a complex topic. Wikipedia, the source of all reliable truth (*cough) says: Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical traits. Such use promoted hierarchies favorable to differing ethnic groups. Starting from the 19th century, the term was often used, in a taxonomic sense, to denote genetically differentiated human populations defined by phenotype Based on that, you could be Caucasian if you speak the same language (whatever that is) as other Caucasians. Or if you have the same genetic heritage. Or religion. Or live in the same place ... simple, right?! Race is more widely and commonly understood these days to mean a person's physical appearance (genetic history), whereas ethnicity is more of a cultural, linguistic, belief thing. As someone else posted, the world seems to be fast on the track to becoming a golden brown melting pot. So maybe we're all really just afriamericasiarabindicaucasoids!
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