Professionals..No 2

November 17 2009

Hi All   Due to the recent confusion in the other" Professionals forum".....Who or what clasifies someone to be a professional ? So they can decide if they will add or delete it from their profile !   And do they need to be Spanked or not ?   Tam

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    oh no... no...no...  Principal Tamworth... you're not dragging me into this again.... I'll just take the spanking, if you're offering, and be on my merry way :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    The confuddlery arrises by reason of the incorporation of two concepts.. On the one hand, we have the "Professions" and on the other we have "Professionals". A member of a profession is  a professional, but so too is a prostitute... you see... people are saying "I am a professional" and to them it means I belong to one of the professions... whereas other people are saying "well, I'm a profressional manbutter factory so why are you being so snooty"... or something like that.   Anyway.. to clear the matter up once and for all (lmfao) ...in the historical sense there were three professions... Medicine, Law and Divinity.... you know.. priests, doctors and lawyers.... the distinguishing characteristics of a member of a profession is that these vocations are highly specialised and require higher levels of education so that disintersted advice and services can be given to others, for a fee, without any kickbacks tainting that advice. However, during the 16th Century and the "enlightenment period" of the Rennaissance, the advent of further professions developed... partticularly in engineering, surveying, architecture, dentistry and accounting joined the other three professions. The Industrial revolution saw further specialisation broaden to include teachers, librarians, Optometrists, Pharmacy, Nursing and social workers for example. All of them were denoted by long periods of study at higher academic levels.   To be a prostitute on the other hand, one merely needs to know her business through instructional training and I guess, retain the services of a very good pimp.   Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I think Tam should be spanked for bring up this topic again..   I'll send Kilee around now to spank you hard   Trev <<< thinks everyone should add professional to their profile, so that we are all in the same boat

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well firstly let me address Gaz. A face pic no less. Clearly you are more game than me, and i must take you to task on one comment. Prostitutes or sex workers dont need a pimp. Now back to the topic with luck. I guess professional in the traditional sense is a doctor, lawyer, engineer, that sort of thing, but as i stated quite emphatically in my post on professional. for my purposes on being here, it matters zilch.X

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Hmmmm you sense I have said something derogatory but you do not know what so you have taken me to task anyway.. Ruler me, Tam! But rest easy, Desserts. I merely use the example of the prostitute to illustrate the requirement of the professions for higher levels of education. Of course people with high levels of education can also be prostitutes so I meant no implications regarding the social status of doctors v's the social status of prostitutes.... I just like the word prostitutes because it has the word "tit" in it. And my point is that to call yourself a professional can include people from all quarters of the community, not just for those with a Bachelor's degree.   Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Gaz, i knew that you weren't being derogatory, i was just pointing out that someone can be a sex worker without a pimp. Oh dear, I should have gone to Uni after all. I'm becoming quite hopeless at expressing myself, but i am good at sex and my mouth......... Perhaps you should all come over here and give me a damn good spanking!!!!!!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    First off I think Gaz looks like Rik Mayall, who I might add is my favourite actor of all time!! Some of you will rememeber Rik from the movie Drop Dead Fred.   Secondly, why would saying you're a professional be an advantage, do i need someone who can balance my books, or someone who will give me a rim job while wanking me off??    I'm not a profesional unless you count extended afternoons of tossing on the couch a career.  do you seek sex with two flaming whores from babylon or financial advice on your mortgage, isnt't that what the yellow pages is for?  Who cares if they are a professional. I feel sorry for all the housemums out there, doing just as good a job raising their children, mums who sacraficed their bodies and career yet where is their recognition, where is their option for professional mums on RHP !! ... oh okay blatent attempt at gaining some MILF votage for best C.I couple there :P :P but i still mean it ladies xxx hmmm yummy mummies,  i like it when the new school year comes round and all the new preppy mums bring their kids to school....did i tell you all how Sal and I met? Perhaps a story for another forum one day :)   andy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Then there are the Professional sports people, as opposed to the privateers and amateurs. Cheers Nev

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Spill the beans.   How did you two famous sexy pair meet?   Trev <<< trying to change the topic of this posting, I mean Professional, Yawn... boring

  • Ringleader

    Ringleader

    16 years ago

    I have an ABN. And a very attractive payment method, by pain free installments.   Senior discounts too!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I Like your post very much. It says it all, even the bit about Gaz!!!!!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    There are no "real professional's" even here. They simply just get one of their minion's to manage their RHP profile for them... and then deliver a powerpoint presentation at the end of each week with all eligible candidates.             We all know that the real professionals are on RSVP anyway....derr.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    We can see some merit for a couple seeking another professional couple, you would not expect to meet couples that are not presented well plus their way of talking would not be rough swearing etc. If you are organising dinner and play it would be a classy dinner and 4 star plus. Dont think higher levels of education has a lot to do with it as a lot of the best achievers dont have a high level of education  ie 10 years at uni. To the extreme ...Bill Gates! Warren Buffett!   We would suggest leaving them alone the same as we live and let live people of different sexual orintations.   Just to clarify we would never put professional on our profile but we would have no hesitation in responding to a professional if all the boxes we require are ticked. But the professional label would not deter or jump in anyway.   Maybe we are all professional which can be judged by the way we intially message each other, our presentation and the way we have conversations. Has everyone had those messages that just puts you off and you think...no way! Well thats not professional! Cheers

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Just had a laugh and had to share.   Was looking at a couples profile and they state "No singles guys and No Bogan Couples"   Hehe..hope I don't offend anyone putting that here..   Wonder if they consider themselves professional ?     Trev

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    How do you know if your a bogan?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    if you know the difference between "you're" and "your", you are not a bogan; you might even be a professional.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    i would think there and their is a good decider too. or was  and were, i was made to write lines by my stepdad as a kid to use was and were in the correct manner.xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Asking how someone knows if theyre a bogan is like asking what is a cult.A cult is any religion apart from your own.....lol.Oh...and bogan is not restricted to non professionals.Money and education DO NOT equal class.Just my opinion....BJxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Okay so I'll tell you the start of the story.  I'm warning you that perhaps I don't come across as a decent guy in this as both Sal and I were married at the start of all of this.  I write this with humour and hindsight but some people were very hurt by it all. Cheating isn't cool peps and although for us it worked out, i'm sure there was a better way we could have gone about it.    Okay here goes. Deep breath.   One day a few years ago Andy was married, he took his son to prep and every now and again he would see this really, hot mum.  She would be all prim and proper and walk with perfect posture, she had the most gorgous face, coco coloured skin, full lips and shiney raven coloured hair.  She hardly smiled and like me wore her sunglasses all the time, oh and she was always in a rush. We never spoke, just crossed paths when our kids were delivered to school.  She always stood out because she was always the best dressed. Most of the mums and dads came to school in jeans and daggy t-shirts with sick or food down the front, hair a mess and no makeup (which is fine because lets face it, if you have two kids and you're trying to get to school in time who has time for that sort of stuff)   Sal somehow always looked like she was about to hit the town, or at the very least sell perfume at David Jones. (he he) She had this red dress that use to cling to her body (Still does) and I would always admire this married milf from afar. Forbidden fruit she was.   The end of 2006 we are invited to a birthday party, i don't want to go because it's a kids birthday party. I meet Mr Sal, boring ass dude whose into bikes and blokey things  zzzzz. My wife isn't good in social situations so I'm telling her 'just find out somehting you both have in common and discuss it, it's easy." sal is sitting across from me, I know she has just started a course to do with the gym. We talk, we chat. I nudge my wife, 'This is how you communicate with people you don't know.'   The party is in full swing, the kids are playing around us. But most of the parents are just sitting there. Not one of them gets off their ass to play with the kids, instead the just yell and holler from the table at whoever is crying, doing something wrong etc.  I am the only Dad out of the parents who gets up and runs around with this pack of kids for the whole afternoon. Sal notices me from behind her Dior sunglasses.   Spin on seven months, I have been to the UK and put on a little bit of weight, my old PT is not longer a PT so I'm at a loss. My wife suggests 'why don't you go to what's it's name gym that's where Sal is a PT." I wrinkle my nose. "Why the hell is Sal?" Then I remember. "ohhhh, her." I book myself in that day.   Fast forward a few weeks ...   To be continued as I have to go to the gym myself. :P  Perhaps Sal will pick up the rest of the story when she gets home and I'm out :P     Andy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I an guess what happened in the gym. There's the male change rooms and the female change rooms.. but surprise surpirse... have you discovered the disabled person's unisex bathroom?? .... hehe.... The unisex steam room is also fun albeit a little risky... and the pool... lol... all those duck dives to do ... good for the lungs I say. :)   The thing I love about PT's are the stretches.... all those compromising positions I find myself in when being assisted with stretching of the hip adductors and hamstrings.... I can never make up my mind if I want a male or female PT so I get one of each and rotate... awwwhhh the joy. I thing we should do more squats and lunges today PT ~ what do you think? hehe. Bring it on bebe. Bring it on... wooohoo!   Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    hehe... trish! I know a group that does Nude Yoga every tuesday night..... I think that's more suited to you, love. :P   Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    w.g.a.f.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    professional painter<<<<< lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    If you do not care then why read the forum?   Jeez, some people, so rude...it is plain unprofessional :P   Gazza my sweet hehe....disabled changeroom (I posted that story smewhere didn't I?) Oh and the stretches!! There is this one you do to stretch the chest, when I would put Andy into position for that one theback of his hands would rest against my breast and then their was the rotator cuff stretch, I would pin his hand between my thigh and his back and he would try to feel me up while I am getting allflustered and freaking out about who can see, then one day, he invites me back to his place to "Look at something on his computer" Really, How lame.....   So we leave the gym and head to his place, we start tlking all this dirty stuff and the cocky bugger asks me if I want to F&$#k him!!! I say yes and before you know it I am giving him head on his living room floor, the rest is history :P   xx Sal

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Has poor widdle parkowa got the grumps.... awwwhhh diddums w.g.a.f.   lmfao Sal, you did mention the change room some time ago and everytime I walk passed the change rooms at our gym... i.e. every morning, I picture you and Andy going for it in there.. lolz. "look at something on my computer".. jeese.. smooth move, Andy. :p  Sure beats the old "come back to my place and I'll show you my etchings". (Yeah, I really do have some, honest :p). So please tell me Andy, what exactly was on your computer that you wanted to show Sal that you couldn't email? hehe.   Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    w.g.a.f   What does it mean??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Lmao....here's one..Dilligaf........Do i look like i give a f**k....hehe....xoxox G

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    lmao Spankkrock!  that was funny.  btw, do you like Spankrock?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Gawd, who cares if parkowa doesn't give a fuck?  he is entitled to his opinion just as the rest of us are, and his opinion appears to be that he does not give a fuck LOL!  Not everyone has to be so damn saccharin all of the time.   Cheers, Trixie.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Spice it up...we wanted to here the long version, no holds barred detailed sexy dirty stop-out sluty version.   Pictures and Video's would be good too :-)   Trev <<<<  I.G.A.F.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    naah... that's not feisty.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    So, here I am, after busting my arse all day, and now I have to decide if I'm a professional or not?I'm a tradey, so I can't be a professional?I carry out my work in an extremely professional manner, and can back that up with my client base, so I must be a professional.When I'm not working, I'd be 4wding, fishing, camping, playing paintball - So that's a negative on the professional side of things? I mean, $8 coffee, cafe's to be seen, croissant throwing, reading the finance section of the paper isn't really my thing.But then I've studied hard, achieved top results, gained multiple qualifications and licenses for my job, so I am a professional at it. No?You know what... Maybe those that claim to be, or purely seek "Professionals" are just too vain or too robotic to get to know people individually...In fact, How do you know that you're only after a "Professional"? Do they have the same personality as other professionals? The same interests? The same lifestyle? Jeremy Clarkson has previously said about car clubs what I think of this whole "Professionals" debate.... "Just because we drive the same car, does not automatically mean I want to be your friend!"Don't get me wrong, I value people's opinion of themselves, it's just that I despise people who expect others to be something in particular.Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go and do something "Unprofessional", and submit a tender for a multi-million dollar project, while drinking a beer and having a smoke.Mr O...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    See Mr O... you are professional, and I respect you for that and I do know the kind of stuff you do for your cheese and it isnt that dissimilar to mine, but not taking anything away from you here... but you aren't a member of one of the professions... i.e. Capital P Professional if I can put it that way. You are not a preist, a doctor or a lawyer for example. This seems to be where all the conflict on this subject has arisen. Plus some people think that they are capital P professional but they don't belong to one of THE professions either... which gives rise to more of this conflict. Frankly, to say that you are "a professional" or "looking for a professional" in your profile tells us nothing except to ring warning bells that you could be pretentious prick.... or a wannabe.... or that you have a limited understanding of the use of the term. lmfao... I know... but seems today I cant be bothered trying to be graceful about it.   Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Allow me to enlighten you on what really happened on that day.  I had convinced Sal to come round as she wanted a web page done up. We sat on the couch and for some reason our conversation turned to Sal's extra swingy stuff she did with her then hubby.  I was outraged how dare she have extra fun allowed by husband, with husband there.  YEs everyone Sal got poor innocent ANDY into swinging. Not the other way round, she had been at it for years before little old me married to my librarian like wife who was not 'into it' . I did ask her after she told me all the sex stuff if she wanted to 'f@$%' me and she said yes. Well what's a man meant to do, I mean I was being polite.  We didnt shag on that day. I seem to remember getting her to lie next to me on the couch and that I offered her a massage, the thieghs I think, rubbing them with enough friction to travel down between her legs. Getting her horny until she let out a little groan from the back of the throat. Then I moved my hand up her body cupped her big, soft boobs and snogged her, at some point we fell off the couch, and at another point she went down on me (twice) and without me even asking her. Then i postioned her on all fours, went behind her and fingered her till she came, we got dressed got in the car and that was that ... it was only until a week later did i guide her to my bedroom, where I stripped her down, lay her back, opened her legs and ...   I might add for the record that Sal had one more threesome before she and I ended up together.  I went to a party at her house and she was wearing this very sexy red dress, I said I had to go, but before  I went she dragged me upstairs (while her hubby cooked the sausages) took me into a spare room and blew me again!!! I was like 'this is not happening' then I left BUT cause I got her all horny... the little tart went and arranged her own MMF with her hubby and his best friend that night.  Bastards, I did all the ground work and they got the benifits!!!  Turns out she wanted a good hard shag and as I wasn't arround the hubbys best friend (who still pines for her) just had to doo... bloody minx ... I still think she gets the best deal out of all this swingy stuff!!   The End   Sorry this has gone on the professional link - but hey we were asked for a better ending.         There is that a good enough ending?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Yup... guys like you and me, Andy.. we're merely innocent bystanders being led astray by the Jesabels of this world..... again and again. Over and over. When will it ever end. :p  Was a time when I wanted to be an alter boy.. awwwhh my innocence stripped from me too long ago, mate, so long ago that your story nearly raised my spirits... nope.. that's not a good enough ending....it still feels incomplete...  may I suggest you try another approach ..... and next time, for once... at least involve me somehow.. :p.. .surely I could provide a sponge bath or sommat. :p   HugsGaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Haha Gaz, will write you in somewhere at some point, promise :)   So anyone who wants more can join the new forum topic I am about to start and those who do not G. A. F. can stay here, Everyones happy then :)   I will start with a story but let me know what one you want next.....   a)The one on the matress in the backyard   b)The one on the sofa yesterday   c)The one where Andy could not remember if it was me or someone else :P   For the record, I have not been swinging for years, I never went looking for it, swinging found me ;) xxSalina

  • tamworthguy46

    tamworthguy46

    16 years ago

    Thanks For All the comments everyone......even sal and andy.....maybee they are professional swingers ?......Sophie...Thanks for the offer of giving you a Spanking.....Is it ok if Kilee spanks me while i spank you ?   And Lol at Spankkrocks reply.   Anyway...Gaz.. Thankyou for pointing out the historical ....Definition of Professionals...Doctors,Lawers......Divinity ?....maybee Divinty is a bit of a grey area ....?...as it depends on how far you go back....religious figures ....eg The Pope....Cardinals, Bishops,Roman schollars......were to a large degree ....." The Law "! It seems to me that now the title " Professonal" has been adopted by everyone who has a UNI degree to a large extent.....and then of course People who describe themselves as Professional Trades.....Plumbers, Painters, Tilers, Hairdressers, etc, etc ......There is even a Real Estate company called "The Professionals "....Hmm last time I checked Real Estate was a Tafe Course !........And then of course, we have Professional " Abb Workout machines"......Professional "Computer Programs " etc   So what do we call it .....The 2009 Definition and Word Evolution of The word.....Mmmmm ...It seems a bit grey to me ?   As Mr O pointed out....Saying in your Profile that you are a Professional, and your looking for professional people is realy being a bit vuage....as what you do for work has no bearing....on hobies...sexual orientation or interests....mental capabilities and so on......you would bebetter off saying " I'm a Doctor " and im hoping to meet other people Involved in Medicine.......Or other plumbers, Dental technitions....etc........Or Parkowa looking for other people that " Don't give a Fuck !"   Love and peace Tam

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    But... Did it work?? Are you a good girl now?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Trish for the explanation. I get confused with some of this terminology.  SalAndy, who got the kids???Tamworth, I don't know if they need to spanked or not, just don't spank me. It is not part of my dessert menu!!!!!!!

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    16 years ago

    Well do I dare enter into this....i guess i have now haven't I. Gaz, u have gone through and pretty much summed up the whole situation and there have been other great posts too.  Perhaps I am a pretentiuos git, I don't know, I don't think so though.  I think all of us can get on our soap boxes once in a while when we find something that is dear to our hears or raises the blood (in the brain - just in case this gave Gaz another leg in for another bash at this one...lol). Profession or Professional as Gaz said has been around a long time and when referring to the "educated" peoples, the meaning has been expanded over the years.  One definition is that you are 'engaged in one of the learned professions', and this has been taken to some extent over the years to take in any profession (read occupation) where you are a member of an organisation that has its own ethical standards, and to which continuing education is required to maintain membership of that organisation.  Hence the doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers etc have all fallen into this category. Yes I fall into one of those, should I delete my reference to professional ......perhaps I should.  Am I an ugly bastard.....probably am........do I judge someone without chatting.......sometimes.......have I changed my mind after talkink/chatting to them......sometimes.   No we shouldn't judge a book by its cover, sometimes we do, but we do so at the risk of thinking shit what a dull boring git this one is and finding out that the story is fucking fabulous...probably not in my case...lol. Yes, thats my two bobs worth. Come on tear me to shreds......pmsl Oh and am I going to take out professional in my bio - who gives a fat rats.....lol   Lets

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Interesting point that you made about the trades Tam...To my way of thinking..i would say in referance to my trade is that im an experienced qualifiedhairdresser and barber ( was trained by a male barber) and beauty.So i tend to agree with gazza on his terminology to which i was taught.Btw MrO love top gear..lolxoxo G