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Racial Bigotry
June 07 2014
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Op, it is a sad moment to see that such stupid racists still exist in this evolving global community and to think themselves more superior than their targets. If I were in your place, i dont know whether to laugh or slap his face but better leave him be to let him wallow and drown in his ignorance and racist views. I haven't had that comment before but certainly would not be surprised to get that here in Australia. Never experienced that living in US, Canada nor Europe. I think we still have a long way to go to get those minority of Aussies to accept the non-Caucasians actually are born here and live here. Lol. But to be fair, most are good people and have not grown in a majority Anglo environment. The minority who are racist are must plain uneducated and xenophobic and pick on the weak. Time for the good Anglo friends your have to back you up and say that behaviour is not right. I feel for you though. I looked at your profile and I think you are a beautiful woman. He is an idiot and his lost. Not that you were interested in him? Lol. I bet he was just jealous you were not dancing with him!!!! X
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's confounding and depressing. But at the same time it's not surprising prejudice still abounds, because no matter how rich and varied the world gets, there are still going to be angry morons with sub-chimpanzee IQs. What I find really depressing is that they feel the need to tell you their narrow and uninteresting opinions. Their only motivation in doing that is to inflict pain.
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Love your work....x
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RHP User
12 years ago
Going by Circz' comment I can see where a lot of this topic is going to go....and that's on whether this actually was an example of racism or not. Clearly it is; it was an example of 'casual racism' instead of the overt neo-Nazi type of racism that most (white) people think of when they make decisions about what is racist and what isn't. The concepts are comparable to casual vs overt sexism, and in this case the guy was also exhibiting casual sexism with his comments about the preference for blonde and stacked women. I spoke about this is another thread and it holds here as well; if you are a white person then you have a completely different experience and perspective in life. We don't have to deal with casual racism on a frequent basis, we often can't identify it for what it is when it happens, and it is not for us to say that it isn't racism. This guy was a racist and sexist bigot and I am sorry that you had to experience that De0cypher.
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De0cypher
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' Op, it is a sad moment to see that such stupid racists still exist in this evolving global community and to think themselves more superior than their targets. If I were in your place, i dont know whether to laugh or slap his face but better leave him be to let him wallow and drown in his ignorance and racist views. I haven't had that comment before but certainly would not be surprised to get that here in Australia. Never experienced that living in US, Canada nor Europe. I think we still have a long way to go to get those minority of Aussies to accept the non-Caucasians actually are born here and live here. Lol. But to be fair, most are good people and have not grown in a majority Anglo environment. The minority who are racist are must plain uneducated and xenophobic and pick on the weak. Time for the good Anglo friends your have to back you up and say that behaviour is not right. I feel for you though. I looked at your profile and I think you are a beautiful woman. He is an idiot and his lost. Not that you were interested in him? Lol. I bet he was just jealous you were not dancing with him!!!! X I have not encountered that on my travels either...certainly discrimination comes in all forms but yes didn't think race was as big a deal as say, for example, being a big girl! Haha and thank you for the feedback on the profile - always appreciated :) And no.. definitely nil interest on my part :)
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De0cypher
12 years ago
Quoting 'RunAwayJoinCircz' ...More just downright sleazebag. They come In every shape and form and there's nowhere In the world to get away from them completely, slimey sleazy douche-bags who get a kick out of making life miserable for Women.... Don't let 'em get to ya, It's not about race with these guys It's about wanting to get under people's skin, so It's up to you to deny them that, laugh It off. The best thing you can do is show them that It means nothing to you and how pathetic they are (and they are always pathetic losers who hate women because they are totally unattractive....I mean personality-wise) It does make me mad too though, It sucks that these bad apples can make life so miserable for the rest of us and ruin a good night out. Just know that the majority aren't like that xx That was his intention...to get under people's skin as you say, because even after 27 years of living in a country and a city that I am absolutely in love with, it did make me question my sense of belonging. But you are absolutely right, the majority are definitely not like that :)
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De0cypher
12 years ago
Quoting 'Rick_Blaine' It's confounding and depressing. But at the same time it's not surprising prejudice still abounds, because no matter how rich and varied the world gets, there are still going to be angry morons with sub-chimpanzee IQs. What I find really depressing is that they feel the need to tell you their narrow and uninteresting opinions. Their only motivation in doing that is to inflict pain. Was why he felt the need to tell me that... it was an unasked and unprovoked opinion. But no, as you say...perhaps not that surprising now that I think about it, that such prejudice does exist. I have to wonder how many people I have interacted with that I thought didn't like something about me - was more about my race and less about other aesthetics, i.e. personality, body size, shape, etc.
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De0cypher
12 years ago
Quoting 'Luckdragon23' Going by Circz' comment I can see where a lot of this topic is going to go....and that's on whether this actually was an example of racism or not. Clearly it is; it was an example of 'casual racism' instead of the overt neo-Nazi type of racism that most (white) people think of when they make decisions about what is racist and what isn't. The concepts are comparable to casual vs overt sexism, and in this case the guy was also exhibiting casual sexism with his comments about the preference for blonde and stacked women. I spoke about this is another thread and it holds here as well; if you are a white person then you have a completely different experience and perspective in life. We don't have to deal with casual racism on a frequent basis, we often can't identify it for what it is when it happens, and it is not for us to say that it isn't racism. This guy was a racist and sexist bigot and I am sorry that you had to experience that De0cypher. I find it difficult to reconcile myself to the attitude in the first place - overt/casual etc - because I don't see people as anything other than just that - a person. Annoying, personable, attractive, arrogant, big, small, tall etc etc.. I don't see them as 'white' 'black' etc.. But yes, perspective is the key here. A lesson learnt.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If I prefer a voluptuous body over an athletic body, does that mean I'm some sort of 'ism'? Yes , this guy is a wanker as it was none of his business who his mate was dancing with. Whatever body shape, hair color, cup size or skin colour I prefer has nothing to do with these 'ism's.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Funlover71' Whatever body shape, hair color, cup size or skin colour I prefer has nothing to do with these 'ism's. sometimes it does, but we won't go into that. As I said, most white people have no idea about the different forms of racism that exist. Preferences are one thing. But the guy who spoke to De0cypher wasn't simply stating preferences, he spoke to her and used words with the specific intention of belitting her and trying to make her feel inferior and unworthy based on the colour of her skin and hair, and how big (or not) her boobs are. That is both racist and sexist.
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Quoting 'Luckdragon23' Quoting 'Funlover71' Whatever body shape, hair color, cup size or skin colour I prefer has nothing to do with these 'ism's. sometimes it does, but we won't go into that. As I said, most white people have no idea about the different forms of racism that exist. Preferences are one thing. But the guy who spoke to De0cypher wasn't simply stating preferences, he spoke to her and used words with the specific intention of belitting her and trying to make her feel inferior and unworthy based on the colour of her skin and hair, and how big (or not) her boobs are. That is both racist and sexist. well said Luckdragon. a lot of white people wont get this as this was never part of their experience and will even refute that we are being overly sensitive or ever paranoid. As per my previous forum post which you have so well responded to. sometimes a lost cause to explain to them and may be better left alone and move on. As we, non-whites, have always done. Life goes on and more good experiences to be had with great people worth our time and attention.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'm with you. This guy is clearly a dickhead who was having absolutely no luck at all on the night, and felt the need to have a mini tanty along the lines of 'nobody wants me, therefore I hate you all and didn't want to dance with anybody anyway' type of thing. But - like everybody else here, I have preferences. All our preferences are there for all to see on our profiles. My preferences do not make me racist, sexist, ageist or any other ist/ism. Looked at your profile too OP - verrrrry nice :)! Hope your night worked out in the end ;)! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
As a Caucasian living in Darwin, I can tell you that it is very, very possible to experience racism directed towards me solely because of my skin colour. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
If it is to do with RACE, THEN it is RACISM..IF it is do with Size, colour, height smell, nose size, dick size foot size.. or any other size.. THEN it is NOT racism.. IF the fella at the Casino said, he didn't like Afro Americans, OR MiddleEastern, OR Aboriginals (Of ANY Country) Or Asians, Or Swedes.. then he is guilty of Racism.. Had the person in question gone up to the OP and said "I am only into HUNG ASIAN MEN" Would she have called him out on being guilty of racism?(Considering there are maybe 50 "Asian races" iin the world) Just a "Thought" that is all....
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' well said Luckdragon. a lot of white people wont get this as this was never part of their experience and will even refute that we are being overly sensitive or ever paranoid. As per my previous forum post which you have so well responded to. sometimes a lost cause to explain to them and may be better left alone and move on. As we, non-whites, have always done. Life goes on and more good experiences to be had with great people worth our time and attention. And you are right, I've had my say and am leaving it there. I know a lot of people won't agree with me, and I can understand that. Up until a couple of years ago I probably also would have said that this wasn't racism, but I've done a fair bit of reading about various social issues since that time and it has challenged much of what I thought I knew.
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RHP User
12 years ago
in a way stereo typical words in our vocabulary.....and use them sometimes without thinking. I did it.....and I had to apologize later because I am sometimes a dig head. I shared my house with two African males for nearly three years.....and you know how you banter and joke....and I said.....because its my preference......I don't find black penis attractive.......wow did I get a verbal belting. So does this make me racist or is it just a preference what dick I love......the white once....ok a little bit of chocolate is ok but not black.....so....what now......I am BAD??? I have to deal also with some men who don't find me attractive at all.....I am too big, and some are totally and utterly rude. We are all in a way "mean" towards others. Like Germans....cant shake the history of being" Nazis" of out there in the world. Hey RHP people love to you all. L
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RHP User
12 years ago
You are such a beautiful women , I,m glade he said it , it better that you find out he a loser from the start. O I think my hubby just started to walk to WA just to see you in person . You are so beautiful
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RHP User
12 years ago
This reality still exists, it's a shame but as the majority of decent people do realise it's the minority that really do have their head up their own arse, as you well know de0cypher perth is a fantastic place to live and the majority are not bigots. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is it racist to be attracted to a type? If I said I'm attracted to dark women, does that make me racist against fair skinned women? If I say I love pale skin with black hair, is that an insult to women with blind hair and tanned skin? It depends on how it was said, but having a preference for physical characteristics isn't trying to insult others, just going with what you like. In saying that, the person who said it sounded like a rude prick, but racist? And since when did Perth become known for multiculturalism? I'm from Melbourne originally and been to every capital city in Australia many times except Darwin, and so far, Perth is the least accepting. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Science states clearly we all started out as black folk :)) And as we moved around the world our skin changed to suit each climate... I'm a proud aboriginal male with pale skin :)) when peeps ask me I say at the end of the day we are like cups of coffee some are black, some are lattes and others mostly milk? Race or skin colour has no relevance, Same as it shldnt matter what age anyone is :) what matters is the person inside the heart they have and the respect they give :)) All I can say is his mate was sorry is a fool
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RHP User
12 years ago
That shows a white baby reaching to play with a black man/woman. The caption: This proves that racism is taught, not born. Or something similar. And really, that says it all to me. A heart, knows no colour. A heart, knows no culture. A persons thoughts and feelings, aren't expressed because of their race, or the colour of their skin. They're expressed by the persons heart. That's more beautiful to me than any skin colour or cultural label. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
With my wife being darker skinned I have viewed racism firsthand, in both a casual and overt manner. It really is quite distressing for her, and me. Wish people would just grow the fuck up to be honest. If you think the colour of someones skin is a big deal, you really need to evolve.
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RHP User
12 years ago
the dumbarse who made the comment was subconsciously verbalising his frustration through lack of understanding of attraction..... and his inability to attract and seduce the women he really wants. Dont let his issues and failings, affect you. DG
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RHP User
12 years ago
Hello all , racism at this stone age??? It is sheer stupidity , we are all humans , I do no care about the skin color , the color of the skin , the shape of the eyes not important at all , what counts is what is embedded in ones heart !!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I like all types, no matter what color or race..But i have to say , black is sexy as hell .. Lucky racism is a rare thing in Australia. I come across racism a fair bit traveling overseas. Australia/Australians have to be the one of the most accepting people on earth.Especially when it comes to other race/cultures . I would say to anyone who claims Aussies to be racist , to travel around a bit ..spend some time in the Middle east or even Asia. You will see how Aussies are not racist people at all, and how welcoming and accepting Aussies are of other cultures and race compared to ALOT of other countries out there.
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RHP User
12 years ago
they are not just confined to 'white people'. I get called: cracker, redneck, honky, hillbilly, trailer trash, white trash... the list goes on, but If I utter the 'N' word, I am a neo-nazi Fascist.I am white, lower class, from the south in the states, which automatically makes me a card-carrying member of the Klan.MAYBE I am just a member of the human race like everyone else?Skin color only runs skin deep. When i was in the military, we had LOTS of gruesome, bad burn cases. I saw guys of all races with third degree burns and worse.GUESS WHAT???we are all the same color when you burn all the skin off.get over it.everyone
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QLDtwo4fun
12 years ago
I worked out some time ago that there is only one group I discriminate against, 'dickheads.' And dickheads can be found in all groups. Unfortunately racism and homophobia also seem to be common traits for dickheads. Sadly, De0cypher you met a dickhead, but don't let them ruin you day.
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RHP User
12 years ago
got a valid perspective and said exactly what I was thinking. You are a beautiful woman, he was probably attracted to you and you chose his friend to pay attention to. He struck out with what he thought would hurt and belittle you. The first thing his small minded brain saw was your skin colour and was obviously not clever enough to see past it. It's a defensive tactic that some stupid twisted people do to make themselves feel better. He is simply an Arse and a Bully. It's horrible that his comments have upset you, his intention succeeded. I hope that all the positive comments have helped balance that. It doesn't matter whether it was a racist comment or not, it was a comment made to hurt and belittle you and is just simply wrong!
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RHP User
12 years ago
What about dating sites ... that specify right down to shoe size?? I have been soundly rejected for being: a) brown eyedb) separatedc) too short (5'10"). Or the story in the SMH that quoted a gal who refused to date anyone who drove a Japanese car. Lots of ...isms about.
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RHP User
12 years ago
'white, blonde and stacked' What about brunettes? I feel the prejudice of this scaly wag is too much! :p
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sorry to hear of this terrible experience but he made his character clear so in that sense you didn't waste any time with him so not a bad outcome in then end! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
The discussion above seems to have divided clearly into 2 camps:- He said – Not necessarily “racism”. We all have the right to have a type or preference. But he's still a wanker and a rude prick. She said – casual racism is still racism and has no place. I can easily see the point on both sides. Myself, I really don’t have a type as such. Fair or dark, tall or short, eye colour, hair colour etc makes little difference. I find happy, healthy, friendly and intelligent as much more desirable traits. For the record De0cypher, I think you are a very attractive, sexy woman and this grub isn't worth another moment's worry over. I'm a bit ho-hum on assertions that as a European decent white male living in Australia, I wouldn't understand racism. I have spent a lot of time travelling for work and pleasure throughout India, Japan, China, Indonesia and South America. Although not common, I was subject racist treatment, both overt and casual, in almost every place I visited. It sucks - full stop. Really OP, you should have just kicked him in the nuts.....Rocky
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RHP User
12 years ago
A lot of people seem to be missing the point here. Sure, we all have preferences in what we're attracted to, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with telling someone exactly what you're attracted to IF they ask you. But to tell someone, who hasn't asked, that you are only attracted to women who are the opposite of them is an act of aggression. And to tell a woman who isn't white that you're only attracted to white women is racist, because it's an act of aggression that hinges on their race.
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RHP User
12 years ago
In this arena, actually, I cant see how anyone can be classed as 'bigoted', when just about everyone here IS in one form or another. for example, there is the 'age' bigotry. I just click on a profile, not knowing the SEXUAL preference(bigoted BIG TIME), and age preference. didnt make a comment or flirt of any kind, but because I am a man....or a creepy OLD man, I am blocked. didnt say anything derogatory or make any overt overtones other than clicking on a profile.BLOCK.It sickens me people are so stuck up, and 'age-o-phobic'. NOTE TO YOUNGER CROWD: some day you are going to be OLD, like me. HOPEFULLY, you will be treated better than you treated older people. Being that I am an 'old man', if I hang around a playground and watch kids play, I am automatically a pedophile. At my age, I build models and play with trains and slot car sets, and LOVE watching kids ripping open presents on christmas morning or their birthday, watching their little faces light up. but because of the STEREOTYPE that I am an over 50 male, and I like hanging around kids as opposed to adults, and I play games and do kid stuff, I am ROBBED of the joy of seeing kids happy and making them happy by showing them how to build a model or race slot cars with them.the world has become a sick and twisted place indeed not just in the race arena, but all around.
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RHP User
12 years ago
What a tosser, enough said really :(
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Quoting 'Rick_Blaine' A lot of people seem to be missing the point here. Sure, we all have preferences in what we're attracted to, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with telling someone exactly what you're attracted to IF they ask you. But to tell someone, who hasn't asked, that you are only attracted to women who are the opposite of them is an act of aggression. And to tell a woman who isn't white that you're only attracted to white women is racist, because it's an act of aggression that hinges on their race. Love your work....x
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