M49 F44
Safe sex or NOT?
September 26 2010
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RHP User
15 years ago
If i had to go to those lengths....I would just totally give the game away. Condoms for intercourse sure...but thats it.May as well have virtual sex!Life involves a certain amount of risk.Everytime you get in a vehicle you take a risk.Everytime you go out in public you take a risk.On and on it goes.If you observed every safety consideration in your life.........well.....you would probably commiit suicide!I guess individuals have to make their own decisions as to what is acceptable risk, and how much do they want to miss out on in their lives..............Cheers Nev......Life is tenuos and the one thing you can be sure of....no one gets out alive!Cheers Nev........
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RHP User
15 years ago
Have to totally agree with you here - its a minefield out there! Way to look at it is there are the curables and noncurables! Warts, HIV and Herpes - all not curable Claymidia gonoherea etc curable 1 in 8 aussies have whether they show symptoms or not genital herpes and if you include those that get cold sores its as high as 6-10! Herpes is either hsv-1 or hsv-2 pple used to think that they were interchangeable but they are - a person can transfer from mouth to genitals vice versa - fortunately if pple are mature and responsible transfer risks are pretty low mind you even with no symptomatic signs a person with genital herpes can transfer the virus about 5% of the time - Asymptomatic shedding of the virus. Warts HPV -11 Hpv-16 ok this one is treatable and most infectious disease experts and sex docs will say that if treated an no outbreak in over 6mths individual could consider themselves cured - mind u same as herpes can have it an not even know! pap tests are checking for changes due to another strain - hpv has 100s of strains - common wart on the hand finger etc is another strain So where to then???? My partner and i both had scares in previous relationships from irresponsible cheating partners - we however both got screened with full bloods requesting herpes screens as well -( no screen for hpv) WE ARE both clear - we discuss our concerns with other pple and sus out where they are at. intercourse would always be safe sex but at end of th day - you have to hope that pple are decent adn would not put you at risk out of selfish self satisfaction. MInd you always will be those out there!~
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RHP User
15 years ago
From our research STD s are very rare in the swinging community with the high risk area being the gay community where anal sex is engaged in. The risk appears to be blood to blood which is highly likely in anal sex male or female due to tearing of tissues in anal sex. We will not go near male or female that engages in anal sex. As a couple for over 30 yrs we will not engage in anal sex either. We cannot see the point in having oral, kissing etc and then say condoms for intercourse. Our safeguards are: Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) Another rule of ours, Clubs Parties etc allways condoms these people are strangers and can say anything that suits them. For at least here the couple have made a statement on their profile, you have chatted on msn and the phone, you should by now have a good feel how safe they are, vs clubs or parties u just dont know....remember the used car salesman / insurance man ....trust me this offer is only valid for today. Play safe and get to know your partners a little have your rules and go bareback!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' From our research STD s are very rare in the swinging community with the high risk area being the gay community where anal sex is engaged in. The risk appears to be blood to blood which is highly likely in anal sex male or female due to tearing of tissues in anal sex. We will not go near male or female that engages in anal sex. As a couple for over 30 yrs we will not engage in anal sex either. We cannot see the point in having oral, kissing etc and then say condoms for intercourse. Our safeguards are: Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) Another rule of ours, Clubs Parties etc allways condoms these people are strangers and can say anything that suits them. For at least here the couple have made a statement on their profile, you have chatted on msn and the phone, you should by now have a good feel how safe they are, vs clubs or parties u just dont know....remember the used car salesman / insurance man ....trust me this offer is only valid for today. Play safe and get to know your partners a little have your rules and go bareback! have to say this is a bit naive. Yes your blood born viruses etc are higher risk with anal, however Herpes, Genital Warts are highly prevelant in the general community. The incidence of Genital Warts and herpes as trebled in the last 10 years, one in 4 teenagers presenting at a sex clinic are diagnosed with one of the above or Clamydia. As mentioned in my earlier post, condoms dont 100% protect you from either of those viruses and a person can have either of them and not even know. I had a girlfriend for over 12months who had Genital Herpes and didnt tell me for the first 6mths - it was only when she had an outbreak that she discussed it - if she hadnt of told me i would never of knows as she could have said she just had thrush. Many women who have genital herpes actually think they just have recurrent thrush, and as previously mentioned you can pass genital to mouth and vice versa. Only way to really protect yourself is vigillence and honesty and when in doubt - regardless - condom. My information comes from my area of employment - medicine cheers have fun be safe
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) But what if that committed married couple swing with different people every weekend. Or if that 'safe' married man is a serial cheater who not only does the swinging clubs...but also hits the local pubs and bars. I think thats why I posted this...was to get people to think about what safe sex is. For example if swingersnsw & I were talking via email, then meeting I would say that we are a committed couple. That we always use condoms. So then you would consider us safe. But if we had been partying with a different couple or single person every weekend for the last 6 weeks. That is 6 people who may give swingersnsw something vis us. You have a higher chance of getting stuff via sex & anal but there is still a fair bit of risk even if you use condoms. I think we have made our decision to be more sur'cum'spect with our partners rather than raging through the clubs like we had originally hoped ;-) You really have to trust that the people you meet are telling the truth. Its pretty obvious that everyone today wants safe sex. So if I was a non condom guy I would totally lie about how many people I had been with, how often I have sex & anal sex. i imagine there would be couple who are the same way...I just hope I never meet them! xx Mrs H
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MrandMrsH' Quoting 'swingersnsw' Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) But what if that committed married couple swing with different people every weekend. Or if that 'safe' married man is a serial cheater who not only does the swinging clubs...but also hits the local pubs and bars. I think thats why I posted this...was to get people to think about what safe sex is. For example if swingersnsw & I were talking via email, then meeting I would say that we are a committed couple. That we always use condoms. So then you would consider us safe. But if we had been partying with a different couple or single person every weekend for the last 6 weeks. That is 6 people who may give swingersnsw something vis us. You have a higher chance of getting stuff via sex & anal but there is still a fair bit of risk even if you use condoms. I think we have made our decision to be more sur'cum'spect with our partners rather than raging through the clubs like we had originally hoped ;-) You really have to trust that the people you meet are telling the truth. Its pretty obvious that everyone today wants safe sex. So if I was a non condom guy I would totally lie about how many people I had been with, how often I have sex & anal sex. i imagine there would be couple who are the same way...I just hope I never meet them! xx Mrs H We have found what you read in these forums and real life miles apart! Or is it our selection criteria? and who we end up meeting? We have found couples we meet with swing 2-4 times a year tops. (we suspect 1-2 mfm somes as well with married guys, they are safer plus they cant sneak away too often for half the night the way we play) Couples swinging privately do not use condoms. They get tested twice a yr.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I couldn't handle all that foreign sperm inside me! And what happens if condoms is the only form of contraception that one uses?? Not everyone is on the pill!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'desserts' I couldn't handle all that foreign sperm inside me! And what happens if condoms is the only form of contraception that one uses?? Not everyone is on the pill!! I don;t think swingnsw need to worry about getting up the duff!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
So swingersnsw, basically you guys meet with the same couples a few times a year. So you are in a committed swinging relationship, that you all get tested twice a year to check that nothing has snuck in. I like it and I think that is what we are aiming for! Lots of Lust! Mrs H xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'desserts'I couldn't handle all that foreign sperm inside me! And what happens if condoms is the only form of contraception that one uses?? Not everyone is on the pill!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
But I used to as part of a couple for a number of years and i was not on the pill and you shouldn't believe what everyone tells you cos lots of men from couples contact me and their wives don't know that they contact me and they are meant to be swinging as part of a couple only and i still would not want all that foreign sperm in me!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' From our research STD s are very rare in the swinging community with the high risk area being the gay community where anal sex is engaged in. The risk appears to be blood to blood which is highly likely in anal sex male or female due to tearing of tissues in anal sex. We will not go near male or female that engages in anal sex. As a couple for over 30 yrs we will not engage in anal sex either. We cannot see the point in having oral, kissing etc and then say condoms for intercourse. Our safeguards are: Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) Another rule of ours, Clubs Parties etc allways condoms these people are strangers and can say anything that suits them. For at least here the couple have made a statement on their profile, you have chatted on msn and the phone, you should by now have a good feel how safe they are, vs clubs or parties u just dont know....remember the used car salesman / insurance man ....trust me this offer is only valid for today. Play safe and get to know your partners a little have your rules and go bareback! I feel compelled to tell you this is wrong ! This is misinformation spread by ill informed people ! Can i suggest that you pop along to a sexual health clinic to chat to a nurse and or a doctor who can give you some "FACTS" about sexual health risk and safety. A message to all is ...... Irrespective of who you are having sex with and your perception of their level of sexual health and safety you should 1, use protection where you can at very least during intercourse. 2, have regular sexual health screenings despite agian your perception of your level of risk . Swingers nsw I am not trying to make you appear silly or be rude but can I suggest an update on your information you may learn some very cool stuff and at worst you will be safer at best you can pop back here and tell me I was an idiot ! (not that, thats ever been done before! ) Stay safe sexy ones ......... Brae
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' From our research STD s are very rare in the swinging community with the high risk area being the gay community where anal sex is engaged in. The risk appears to be blood to blood which is highly likely in anal sex male or female due to tearing of tissues in anal sex. We will not go near male or female that engages in anal sex. As a couple for over 30 yrs we will not engage in anal sex either. We cannot see the point in having oral, kissing etc and then say condoms for intercourse. Our safeguards are: Married or Committed couples for some length of time. No hint of anal sex No open cuts or sores that could transmit blood. Gentle sex where tissues are unlikely to be damaged. MFM 3 somes a married guy is good as he wont have anything and wont want to take anything home. (Its his problem if his wife knows or not and lets face if she was swinging with him there would be no cheating) Another rule of ours, Clubs Parties etc allways condoms these people are strangers and can say anything that suits them. For at least here the couple have made a statement on their profile, you have chatted on msn and the phone, you should by now have a good feel how safe they are, vs clubs or parties u just dont know....remember the used car salesman / insurance man ....trust me this offer is only valid for today. Play safe and get to know your partners a little have your rules and go bareback! See... now that is exactly why swingers should be considered as NOT SAFE and anyone would be a complete tool if they think that its safer to have sex with swingers than with anyone else. HIV Very difficult to catch... but permanent and life threatening. If you are anal or vaginal receptive your chances double to 5 in 100. If you are penetrative your chances are 3 in 100. If someone cums in your mouth and you brush your teeth within a couple hours afterwards, those tiny scratches you make in your gums allow HIV to enter your system. It is true saliva goes a long way to killng HIV but not a 100% safety net. The Clap and Syphalis. - curable but potentially fatal. Highly prevalent and on the increase at the moment. All that needs to be done here is to come into contact.. so oral sex is all you need to do.. maybe even tongue kissing. If you have either of these, you are far more susceptible to contracting HIV because of your lowered immunity levels. Genital Herpes - permanent and flair ups are painful. Antiviral drugs used to control it are same as for HIV. Heaps of people have this. More females than males and you may not even see them. Tiny tear of the skin around the head of the penis or inside the foreskin or vagina, or anus from time to time ... again.. if you have this disease you are more susceptible to contracting HIV. Clamydia - curable. Highly prevalent. Most blokes dont even know that they have it. There may be no symptoms for dudes. Women.. a nasty discharge.. and that shit will send you blind. Again... it makes you more susceptible to contracting HIV. Crabs - treat with nit shampoo. Prevalent in the scene in Sydney. Nasty little fuckers. By the time you know you have them you could easily have shared them around. Seriously. The problem with swingers is that they are too embarrassed to talk about it. They have a bout of STD and don't tell anyone.. therefore the swinging community thinks they're safer than anyone else. As Brae said... a trip to the Sex Clinic will inform you. That you are SO very misinformed tells me that you have never been to one... and you my friend are the most unsafe candidate for sex of all kinds. Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks Gaz ! If you are swinging as a simple measure of safety of purely yourself go to a sexual health clinic try visiting every 6 months however you should be visiting more regularly if you can. If you are at higher risk it is important for your health you visit on a regulary basis! miss sarah and I have been to http://www.sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au/sydhosp/Services/sshc.asp Sydney sexual health clinic it is very friendly, non judgemental and easy to get to ...............seriously telling your Doctor you have had sex with 8 different women in the last 6 months and thats not including your wife can be challanging ...... you tell these guys and they say .....ok is that all ? LOL! Swinger are NOT SAFE if anything I think they should be on a high risk list ! (I would suggest to you most prostitutes may possibly be safer because of there professionalism around sexual health) The site above has links and good information about different conditions you should be aware of and measures you can take to minimise risk ! Anyone else got anything to say about this ????? Grrrrrr Yes you ! Brae ............
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RHP User
15 years ago
miss sarah and I have included the stuff to make sure we are safe ! I went out and bought some black latex gloves which look smashing with my black leather apron black boots and black leather jock strap ...........! Whip and tool belt sold seperately !! ;-) Sarah loooooves the sensation of the gloves and often asks me to put them on even when not playing with others. We now condom up all our insetable toys ....... when we chat to gals about this we play with they dont get upset they are really HAPPY ! condoms on double ended dildos ! on Vibes ! on all the stuff you put in people ! Get creative ! Its not that hard ........ I would much rather fuck Gaz who I know takes his sexual health seriously than some "married man" quote ...... cause you know "hes good cause he wont have anything" ....... Brae scratches his head really hard ! HAve fun with it guys ......get crazy !
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RHP User
15 years ago
Follows is an self explanatary extract from the Aus medical proffesion: Approximately 87% of sufferers are homosexual or bisexual men who have caught the disease through anal intercourse. 7% are people who have received contaminated blood in blood transfusions.4% are drug addicts where the infection is due to the use of shared , contaminated needles.1% are people with hemophilia who received the contaminated blood extract called Factor 8.Less than 1% are heterosexual people who have caught the disease from persons infected with the AIDS related virus. We feel the real risk is engageing in dangerous sexual practices that we have allready specied, the numbers being quoted here are not consistant. We would not put ourselves at risk by engaging in anal even with a condom they do split plus has anyone read anywhere condoms are 100% safe? Where research is saying hetrosexual people are less than 1%....Dont think the condom manufactures can claim that. Yes we agree, engage in anal sex, hi activity where you have no background knowledge of your partners like parties and clubs condoms is a must, we have used them as well in those circumstances .....but never done and never will do anal the risks are just too high, nor will we play with people that engage in these activies.
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RHP User
15 years ago
So looking2try3 & Stalky...Where do you guys draw the line with oral sex & fingering...Thats more what I was trying to find out...I think couples like ourselves & what they do & how do they do it. Lol do you whip out the oral dam for cunninlingus? & condoms for blowjobs? Gloves for fingering? Knowing how other aware people handle safe sex is what I want to know. Mrs H xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Glad to see some more well informed pple contributing to this thread! Most pple would be quite surprised at the incubation periods for viruses such as HSV1 HSV2 and HPV. Non-curalbe, quite rampant in the general community, no cure, only symptomatic treaments - can cause immense discomfort and pain, isolates one partner from the other during outbreaks. And can lay dorminant for up to 3mths post exposure and that is if it show up symptomatically. I have a friend whose bf cheated on her whilst on a football trip, 2mths later she was diagnosed with HSV - genital herpes - the boyfriend was tested for it to , he is +VE yet has never had an outbreak but was diagnosed with both a blood test and a swab of the penis glans! She unfortunately gets an outbreak nearly every month just after her period starts - nice gift thanks to unprotected selfish sex huh???? You can be tested today be safe at time of testing, have unprotected sex tonight contract it, get your results next week and be negative - well you were when the swab/blood test was done, but that was before the unprotected sex~! Worth thinking about! OH and just as another tit bit, condoms dont 100% protect against HSV and HPV, reduce siginificantly but not 100%
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MrandMrsH' So looking2try3 & Stalky...Where do you guys draw the line with oral sex & fingering...Thats more what I was trying to find out...I think couples like ourselves & what they do & how do they do it. Lol do you whip out the oral dam for cunninlingus? & condoms for blowjobs? Gloves for fingering? Knowing how other aware people handle safe sex is what I want to know. Mrs H xx There's someone I know who insists on people wearing rubber gloves when touching her up. Now.. the feeling of latex is obviously is a bit of a fetish for her but in any case, the wearing of the glove is going to go a long way to making sure her lover and herself are safe. That's the only person I know who plays safe while being fingered. THat's why STD's transmit so readily. I know others who wash their hands between partners. Now that's a clever idea. Give yourself an all over rinse off.... hey.. that's sensible... and we all smell and taste so much better that way anyway. As for oral sex, condoms taste bad. I think everyone who gets involved in oral sex takes the risk on board. That's why I firmly believe that people who have multiple partners MUST get regularly tested at a specialised clinic. They know what they are looking for and test you on a basis designed to suit your risk profile. SwingersNSW ~thanks for the link. The Sex Clinic will tell you your personal profile risk if you tell tehm exactly what you do and how often. You wont get better advice than that and clearly, the statistics have mislead you into thinking that you are clean and safe without any real basis for the certainty of that apprehension. If your only concern is HIV then I'm sorry to say that you're nuts. As I said.. the chances of contracting HIV are rather slim.. if you have unprotected sex with a person that is HIV plus the chances of catching HIV is statistically less than 5%.. unless you have one or other type of STD in which case your chances are significantly increased. MInd you... wear a condom and your risk is considerably lower than that, to teh point where, if everyone got regularly tested.. and would wear a condom for penetrative intercourse then HIV would hardly exist at all in theis country. Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hiv infection is the initial phase, and this phase can last as long as ten years. During this time, a person may or may not experience symptoms, and it is very common that those who are infected with the hiv virus may live for years without knowing that they are infected. This is very dangerous, since in that time that a person does not know that he or she has hiv, it is possible to infect many people. Given these facts on hiv, it is important to get tested often to ensure that you are not infected. Hugs from a distance with rubber gloves Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
NO thats just silly propagating false figures....... they simple dont add up ! Your quote ... "condom they do split plus has anyone read anywhere condoms are 100% safe?" Oh seat belts dont always save you in a car accident but if its ok with you I will keep putting my kids in one ! How many times have we heard of men denying a history of bisexuality ? Experiences of anal sex etc freakin hell do you really think they are going to tell you yeah yeah I bareback men up the arse all the time ...... when you have just said to them .... oh we dont do anything with people that do anal !!!!!!! Some ummmmmm fact ???? hmmmmm anyway from that site you suggested ..... further to Stalkys gem ! 9. Having many sexual partners increase the chances of you encountering a sexual partner infected with AIDS. This is true for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. .......... and .......The use of condoms can help prevent the catching of AIDS so never have intercourse without using a condom. NSW swingers that site is a sham but even they say the above ! My 7 year old knows more about health than they do ! Brae.......
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RHP User
15 years ago
swingersnsw you are only referrig to HIVI have made reference to HSV and HPV in every post - you choose to ignore - HIV is ont the only STD!!!!HSV , HPV and Chlamydia account for more std infections in the general public than any other!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'm sure we all agree that swingnsw ideas on safe sex are not the same as most sane people especially those who swing but to answer mrandmrsh questions, how can we have safer sex??? I am sure this not a complete list but it's a start 1. Get tested regularly and be honest with your doctor or sex clinic about what you get up tosexually. 2. wear condoms, and when playing males need to change condoms between ladies 3. Wash hands and body parties - clubs and parties should provide wet wipes so that this can be done without leaving the room. Or provide your own 4. Be educated about your risks, swingers club and sites like this one should help with this by hosting info nights and having articles that cover this topic. 5. Don't drink too much when playing because it leads to carelessness. That is my top five tips I am sure there are more so why don't we get off pointing out the foolishness of swingnsw and actually respond to an Interesting question, one that we should all think about more. Tip away people
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RHP User
15 years ago
We dont believe married couples that allways play together and not in open relationships, would be capable of one having anal sex without the other knowing. Different story if it is a open relationship, or couples that dont play. Quoting 'looking2try3' NO thats just silly propagating false figures....... they simple dont add up ! Your quote ... "condom they do split plus has anyone read anywhere condoms are 100% safe?" Oh seat belts dont always save you in a car accident but if its ok with you I will keep putting my kids in one ! How many times have we heard of men denying a history of bisexuality ? Experiences of anal sex etc freakin hell do you really think they are going to tell you yeah yeah I bareback men up the arse all the time ...... when you have just said to them .... oh we dont do anything with people that do anal !!!!!!! Some ummmmmm fact ???? hmmmmm anyway from that site you suggested ..... further to Stalkys gem ! 9. Having many sexual partners increase the chances of you encountering a sexual partner infected with AIDS. This is true for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. .......... and .......The use of condoms can help prevent the catching of AIDS so never have intercourse without using a condom. NSW swingers that site is a sham but even they say the above ! My 7 year old knows more about health than they do ! Brae.......
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RHP User
15 years ago
Aids is life threatening and there is no cure its Terminal. Warts and Herpes are treatable to an extent, dont think they are Terminal We worry about the big things in life 1st Quoting 'netstu'swingersnsw you are only referrig to HIVI have made reference to HSV and HPV in every post - you choose to ignore - HIV is ont the only STD!!!!HSV , HPV and Chlamydia account for more std infections in the general public than any other!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' We dont believe married couples that allways play together and not in open relationships, would be capable of one having anal sex without the other knowing. Different story if it is a open relationship, or couples that dont play. I can't help thinking you are playing the devils advocate. HOwever.. I'll bight.. for the benefit of those who think you are being serious. I mean to say, if you can jog to the nearest park from your house, you can get a blow job off a dude while you are there. Why would anyone but those two men involved know about it? Just saying. When you do actually get around to visiting the sexual health clinic, you wil lfind pamphlets there that offer support for women who are married to men who have sex with other men. THe pamphlet goes something like this.... "Do you know what he really gets up to? 92% (I made that up.. but it is some rediculously high number that I cannot recall) of women that contract an STD from their husband did not know that he has sex with other men"..... There are even support groups and web sites for women who discover that they are married to a man who have sex with other men. Take a look in secret men's business. One dude said.. Ive been thinking about getting a blow job.... a day later he says he has had 25 blokes offer to help him out. Now seriously... I bet you a bag of licourice that they aren't listed in RHP as gay guys. Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Sweetpie Said hehehe....are you serious NSW darling? There's been more than a few times that hubby has been in the same room as me and has been otherwise occupado........are you telling me he's supposed to watch my clack every moment of that time??? And how many times, intentionally or not in the heat of a rousing game of sexual twister has a guy headed for clack instead of twat?!!!! You're going to have to do better than that honey. One of his kinks is NOT standing guard at the back entrace with a magnifying glass......hehehehehe C'mon!!!!!!!!! I still say you're taking the piss and by golly i'm having a fun time of it if you are xx Giggley Mrs S YUK and Yukie, Would you really like anal sex......like holding a revolver to your head
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RHP User
15 years ago
I must admit that contracting HIV is the least of what I was worried about. It seems to be the easiest to protect your self from...Condoms for all penetration & dont brush your teeth after oral. It was things like Chlamidia & Gonereahh (how the hell do they come up with the spelling of these things anyhow!?) Syphilis. Those viruses seem to transmit much more easily as above posters have mentioned. For me personally they were more of a problem. Also because alot of people dont realise they have them...they get passed on. As for anal sex...Dont knock it til you try it! Its awesome if the person who is doing it knows how. Of course that is something I only would do with hubby...there is a lot of trust involved & sometimes its just not my thing. But wow it can bring on orgasms like you wouldnt beleive! Mrs H xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
OHHH Thanks Blonde7915 & Stalky ...Thats what I wanna know! Oxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MrandMrsH' OHHH Thanks Blonde7915 & Stalky ...Thats what I wanna know! Oxxx Ooooooh come on now ! I gave you my whole glove story ! and wrapping of toys in condoms etc etc ! Mr and Mrs H I am hurt ! ouch ouch ouch !!!! Netstu I agree Hpv and alike herpes and friends are the nasties you never hear about but hell they are out there ! Thier diagnosis far more prevelant ! I again agree with Stalky blowjobs are not as much fun for anyone with a condom , but is it becoming a necessary evil ! Brae !
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RHP User
15 years ago
So so sorry...Your story gave me interesting ideas & a damp patch, if its any consolation... You can spank me later...But only if you wear your gloves! xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'hotqld45' The Doctor shoved his finger up there once ....there was no enjoyment and he said thats tight! So would you use Military issue extra thick condoms for the added stresses on them? or maybe two ? Haha A pox on Porn movies! That is so not what anal sex is about. No shoving! You cant just shove your dick in there & start pumping away. HELL NO! Its gotta be gentle & slow with lots of lube & a vibe on your clit helps. Start with a finger, then two until you are ready to gently slip him in. And no thrusting until she starts pushing back against you. Then and only then can you start gentle thrusting...and if your lucky work your way up. Its also about your mind set too. If she feels its a violation or not done in love or pressured then she wont enjoy it. I would suggest some juicy MMF or gay porn novels to set the scene in the week before. As for double strength condoms I dare say your right...But only Mr H goes there! xx
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15 years ago
We have revaluated our safe sex practices from the source lookingtotry 3 nominated From the fact sheets printed by the sex clinic we have concluded you can catch: Clamydia by: Oral sex, Vagina sex, Anal sex Warts: Skin on Skin condoms are not effective Herpes Skin on skin Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Gonorrahoea Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Hepatitis A Condoms are not effective Anal sex Hepatitis B Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex 2008 Australian Stats state: 66% of HIV / AID diagnosed are from men engaging in anal sex. 27% Hetrosexual couples. There is further breakdowns to Australians born here and the indigenous population. World stats: 87% of HIV / AID diagnosed are from men engaging in anal sex Under 1% of HIV / AID diagnosed are from hetrosexual couples. From this information supplied by others on the forum that we could confirm, we have re thought our safe sex rules. 1/ We will not go near anyone that engages in anal sex. 2/ Condoms and no oral for Clubs, Parties and casual sex. 3/Private swinging if the other couple holds the same values as us, they only play together, they only play occasionally and we are very comfortable with their honesty and morals we will go for no condoms and oral. Stalky you said if everyone who played used condoms for penerative sex a lot of these would be non existant.....Dont you mean penerative and oral sex based on your source of info? Also learnt from the sex clinics fact sheet that they have a vaccine for hep A and B and recomend it for man to man sex.....Does anyone know if this is being accepted by those want man to man sex thereby protecting their wives and others? Or is it Condoms for viginal and anal sex fixes all? Some suggestions of showering washing hands thats basic hygene thanks for the reminder.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'netstu'swingersnsw you are only referrig to HIVI have made reference to HSV and HPV in every post - you choose to ignore - HIV is ont the only STD!!!!HSV , HPV and Chlamydia account for more std infections in the general public than any other!!!! According to the sex clinics fact sheets Condoms are not effective against, Warts, Herpes and Hepatitis A. Condoms are effective against Gonorrahoea, Hepatitis B, Chlarmydia. 100% safe = one partner for life, Dont play. Thats the bottom line.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'looking2try3' NO thats just silly propagating false figures....... they simple dont add up ! Your quote ... "condom they do split plus has anyone read anywhere condoms are 100% safe?" Oh seat belts dont always save you in a car accident but if its ok with you I will keep putting my kids in one ! How many times have we heard of men denying a history of bisexuality ? Experiences of anal sex etc freakin hell do you really think they are going to tell you yeah yeah I bareback men up the arse all the time ...... when you have just said to them .... oh we dont do anything with people that do anal !!!!!!! Some ummmmmm fact ???? hmmmmm anyway from that site you suggested ..... further to Stalkys gem ! 9. Having many sexual partners increase the chances of you encountering a sexual partner infected with AIDS. This is true for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. .......... and .......The use of condoms can help prevent the catching of AIDS so never have intercourse without using a condom. NSW swingers that site is a sham but even they say the above ! My 7 year old knows more about health than they do ! Brae....... Never had a seat belt fail....but had condoms break! poor comparision
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15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' Hiv infection is the initial phase, and this phase can last as long as ten years. During this time, a person may or may not experience symptoms, and it is very common that those who are infected with the hiv virus may live for years without knowing that they are infected. This is very dangerous, since in that time that a person does not know that he or she has hiv, it is possible to infect many people. Given these facts on hiv, it is important to get tested often to ensure that you are not infected. Hugs from a distance with rubber gloves Stalky\ We feel obliged to put the rest of the article here so we are completely informed: Methods of protecting oneself against hiv are not as effective as complete abstinence from sexual contact, something which many people do not find appropriate for their lifestyles. Therefore, getting tested through a rapid hiv test, which does not require drawing blood, but is a 20 minute test which involves swabbing the inside of the mouth should be a routine undertaken several times a year. Given the undisputed highest risk area is male to male anal sex we feel our decision to stay clear of anyone with any hint of induging in anal sex, is our priority this STD has Terminal effects. We also find it unbelievable married men in a hetrosexual relationship go for a run and recieve a blow job from another man ....thats absurd! Do you believe everything you hear...lol
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15 years ago
"Given the undisputed highest risk area is male to male anal sex we feel our decision to stay clear of anyone with any hint of induging in anal sex, is our priority this STD has Terminal effects. We also find it unbelievable married men in a hetrosexual relationship go for a run and recieve a blow job from another man ....thats absurd! Do you believe everything you hear...lol " Seriously....are you guys for real? I think you are living in lala land....you should try reading some of the forum topics here where the men are telling you that is exactly what they do...!! 'Never had a seat belt fail....but had condoms break! poor comparision' I am sure that my nephew who was killed when his seat belt failed wished his condom had broken instead. There are many here who have tried to offer you some very sensible advice, you may want to sit back, take a deep breath and accept you have tunnel vision.
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15 years ago
Well done NSW on listing all the STDs with Anal sex as a high risk source of transferhere are some others for you..Clamydia by: Oral sex, Vagina sex, Anal sex Warts: Skin on Skin condoms are not effective Herpes Skin on skin Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Gonorrahoea Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Hepatitis A Condoms are not effective Anal sex Hepatitis B Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sexIf you think by not having ANAL sex and not using condoms you are two things;1. Ignorant and uneducated misinformed2. lacking consideration and respect for other people you engage with sexuallyoh and do heterosexual males get oral from other men - DUH! pope a catholic, kennedys gunshy, bear shit in the woods???
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15 years ago
Quoting 'netstu' Well done NSW on listing all the STDs with Anal sex as a high risk source of transferhere are some others for you.. Clamydia by: Oral sex, Vagina sex, Anal sex Warts: Skin on Skin condoms are not effective Herpes Skin on skin Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Gonorrahoea Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex Hepatitis A Condoms are not effective Anal sex Hepatitis B Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Anal sex If you think by not having ANAL sex and not using condoms you are two things;1. Ignorant and uneducated misinformed2. lacking consideration and respect for other people you engage with sexuallyoh and do heterosexual males get oral from other men - DUH! pope a catholic, kennedys gunshy, bear shit in the woods??? Dont you understand us we are being safer than u guys, plus we have reframed from judging or critising others. Our Rules: Condoms allways and no oral, we just cant see oral working imagine plastic over a pussy and licking plastic rather not! Plus ...If we have a suspision our play mates engage in anal no nothing even with condoms, its our health and we will enforce that decision. This means no sex even with condoms! The exception: Is negotated between another couple and ourselves, the decision process will be all four and as adults the four of us will make that call and can well do without comments like endangering others. We are adults and dont need your views presented in a carcastic way thankyou. This exercise has been benefical for us we have learnt the high risk of oral and reconfirmed the high risk group who engage in anal sex. Thankyou for highlighting the dangers of oral but if you had read our post we had allready reached that conclusion.
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15 years ago
Oh Dear...
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15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' Stalky you said if everyone who played used condoms for penerative sex a lot of these would be non existant.....Dont you mean penerative and oral sex based on your source of info? Hi, My words have been taken out of context and my source of info is direct from the doctors at the sex clinic. My point there was that HIV is a relatively simple matter for prevention by wearing a condom.. HIV is the least of our concerns in terms of STD's. I know that having HIV is sinister, but HIV sufferers can live almost normal lives with the medication available today since it is so much better these days and improving exponentially. My comment on wearing a condom related only to gaining significant protection from sharing or from contracting HIV. As for contracting HIV through oral sex, your risk is significantly reduced if you do not let anyone cum in your mouth, and do not rush off to brush your teeth after oral sex. THat is because saliva kills the HIV virus. None the less, oral sex still is a risk for HIV as you might have bitten your lip or your unwitting HIV carrying lover might have a case of gingivitis and you a small scratch on your dick... a bight mark perhaps. The only truly safe method is ABSTINENCE.... but hey.... there really could be only one virgin Mary no matter what your aspirations. HUgs Stalky
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15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' Also learnt from the sex clinics fact sheet that they have a vaccine for hep A and B and recomend it for man to man sex.....Does anyone know if this is being accepted by those want man to man sex thereby protecting their wives and others? Hi, When you go to the sex clinic, the first thing that they do is get your risk profile based on what you say you are up to.. and then they run the appropriate tests. I think they always test for Hepatitis for your fist visit and when you come back for the results they will give you the injections right there and then if you have shown no sign of antibodies. It's free. If you go to your local GP you wil lpay $100 or something for that. Yet another reason to visit the clinic. Oh yeah... they also give away free condom samples. Even the extra strength ones designed for ruff anal sex! :p Cheers Stalky
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15 years ago
It is wrong of you to use statistics derived from HIV for making assumptions about Hepatitis. It's not an anal sex disease. You can get hepatits A by felching for example... any contact with feacal matter in food or water... during sex let's say your dick touches her perrineum and then she gives you a blow job.. and you kiss her thankfully... bingo... you can contract Hepatitis A like that. Most people already have had HEP A without even knowing. truth is you probably have the antiodies for it already in your body because you have likely had HEP A before today. Hep C..... Now that'll make you sick. Go and get immunised for free down at your sex clinic and put your worries behind you. Hugs Stalky
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15 years ago
*big pout* I went searching for sexy black gloves today ( So I could be just like Brae *sigh* ) and the only kind I could find were heavy duty gardening ones or dishwashing ones :( So I got a multi coloured pack that has cream, yellow & pink ( yes pink!!). I want to try them out with Mr H tonight! xx
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15 years ago
New swingersnsw Couple M 69yrs F 65yrs 01 Oct 2010 Hide Can I give you an Aussie kiss? It's like a French kiss but down underI just got this flirt from our infamous couple ...... does that not break your rules?
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15 years ago
Has anyone ever considered that life is a sexually transmitted disease, and it's terminal? LOL Pusscat and Woody xx
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15 years ago
Now I CANT wait to try out my gloves Sweetiepie! But I had better wait for Mr H...he might get cross if I start without him... hmmm but if he gets cross I might get a spanking so maybe I WILL start without him! decisions decisions!
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15 years ago
We might bend a rule for you Blondie, We presumed you are a nice girl like you would not do anal ??? Otherwise sorry we will have to retract, we are now reformed swingers, and we are allready bending a rule just for u......You are not a couple swinging that means swapping partners and Mrs NSW is missing out. And of course we would have to use a barrier, we have some old car tubes we could use, or would u prefer to Bring your own maybe a some pink latex, to form a barrier below? Our specs are a min of 1.5mm thick to ensure a imperable barrier, to ensure no molecular size molecules could possible penertrate the barrier, and end up on me. Safety First.
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15 years ago
Entertaining AND informative. Can we join you Sweetiepies? ;)
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15 years ago
I will not feed the trolls. But this thread should get back on topic ... How can we all continue to enjoy this lifestyle but be safer. Where are some sex clinic in the different states. I used to go to my local doctor until I got a locom and he told me with my lifestyle any negative result was actually a false negative unfortunately he could be right but that sort of info just scares people into not getting tested. Do now I go to the Marie Stopes clinic near Salisbury, it's a bit of a drive but it is great. They suggested that I get the cervical cancer vaccination too. So people where do you get your check ups done?
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15 years ago
Well we were just going to go to our local GP. We will check that he tests for all the things we want tested. I was tested about 7 yrs ago cos I went in and asked to be tested for all STDs, but I dont remeber a swab being taken...So wondering about chlamidia now. Hubby was done a couple of years ago when he had a hernia. His first doctor thought it was an STD & tested him...needless to say he changed Doctors & the next one found his hernia & fixed it. We will do the 6monthly check when we start swinging (Dont think once really counts ...though looking forward to round 2!!) Hey NSW you guys do have some valid safe sex points. Its just your old fashioned veiws about anal that got everyones back up. And its all personal isnt it. We do what suits us as individuals & couples! Swing on! Mrs H! xx
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15 years ago
Quick checklist for swingers 1, Go to you local sexual health clinic , ask for a full screaning. They will advise what is required. (note they also mostly DO NOT require a medicare card so you can be who ever you want to be complete discretion) and they are FREE!! 2, Use condoms for a sexual penertrations. Anal or vaginal. 3, Cover all toys. (it is amazing what you can fit a condom over) NEW cover for each new partner.(we do this all the time now even when just we use them ) 4, Using protective barriers on all activities such as blow jobs and licking lovely vaginas ! Try flavoured condoms (cut in half) or buy dental dams. No doubt this is not appealing to all but it should be and is recommended ...anyway have you tried it ? 5, DONT TRUST OTHER partners ......you can only be sure about YOUR sexual health ! NOT your partners and not your partners- partners sexual health. 6, Be open with discussing your sexual health needs with your play partners. "hey your cool with safe sex ? Do you guys have any rules ? " ...easy and very relaxed to ask someone ? ......ok now lets fuck mmmmmmmmm Swingers need to be super vigilaint about sexual health, there are no levels of safe sexual health in the swinger world. Have fun with it experiment ......hell that can be the fun part ! Brae ................ phew glad thats out !
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15 years ago
Quoting 'MrandMrsH' *big pout* I went searching for sexy black gloves today ( So I could be just like Brae *sigh* ) and the only kind I could find were heavy duty gardening ones or dishwashing ones :( So I got a multi coloured pack that has cream, yellow & pink ( yes pink!!). I want to try them out with Mr H tonight! xx They are often used by tattoist. Try medical suppliers or ...............Ebay ! Brae
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15 years ago
Brae excellent checklist but feel compelled to comment on some of it. 1/We have trusted of GP to look after our sexual health all our lives without any complaints. Are you and others suggesting we should not trust our GP on a professional or cost basis. 2/ Back to anal sex everyone is making it sound as if it carries the same risk as oral and Virginal sex. Anal sex is not only risky even with condoms from stds it also has other health risks that oral and virginal sex does not have. Tearing of the Anus, Colon , which leads to terrible infections , cancer and is well documented these conditions lead to death. Until you have cared for a family member how has had their bowels removed due to cancer I doubt you would understand the loss of dignity it’s a terrible way to die. Repeated anal sex may cause hemorrhoids, piles and weakening of the anal sphincter, which leads to your shit escaping involuntarily. This is really moving to the dark side, it’s a unnatural way of fulfilling the sexual desire, Is it a coincidence how nature steps in and gives us HIV/AID. We could list more, but ultimately the decision is yours
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15 years ago
Yes in fact I would suggest you see a sexual health clinic rather than your GP. There is significant eveidence that the people at these clinic have a significant advantage over your GP in most instances. This is increasingly in the evidence base and anecdotally. This reference has nothing to do with cost, but experience and recency of practice. Please seek advice from your health practitioner. Brae ......... trying to be polite but ........ shaking his head at the ignorance.
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15 years ago
Prove your research to us, Sweetie
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15 years ago
Mr and Mrs H, Have a look at the profiles of all the ones that apparently got their backs up. None are swingers as in full couple swapping, according to their profiles. I would suggest they are arm chair swingers,,,ahhhhhh thats what the book says, academics. Cheers have fun, and make your decisions. Thinking about sweeties assignment does it really matter where aids started , the homosexual community certainly spread it. Quoting 'MrandMrsH' Hey NSW you guys do have some valid safe sex points. Its just your old fashioned veiws about anal that got everyones back up. And its all personal isnt it. We do what suits us as individuals & couples! Swing on! Mrs H! xx
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15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' Prove your research to us, Sweetie
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15 years ago
that no matter what anyone says swingersnsw will stick to their opinions no matter what and it seems quite pointless to me to keep arguing with them. As long as we are all happy with what we do. I think they are just deliberately stirring the pot!!!!
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15 years ago
Kiddies its important that we stay vigillent ! It has become sadly obvious that there are people out there that DO NOT take the same precautions as others do. Sadly this means this increases the risk for all. It will always be this way !!! Those of us that have grown up with this drummed into out heads at school uni etc etc see this as a norm. You CAN NOT trust others despite thier description of thier sexual orientation. It is very possible that what you are being told may not be true and not true for other play pals of the persons they have slept with ! Have fun folks , enjoy Brae.
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15 years ago
No Feeding Brae said 30/9/10 I feel compelled to tell you this is wrong ! This is misinformation spread by ill informed people ! Stalky 30/9/10 Oh my goodness. So Nieive swingers should be considered as NOT SAFE and you my friend are the most unsafe candidate for sex of all kinds. Brae again 30/9 Swinger are NOT SAFE if anything I think they should be on a high alert list. I would much rather fuck Gaz……..From Brae "hes good cause he wont have anything" ....... Brae scratches his head really hard ! HAve fun with it guys ......get crazy ! I thought you were naive ! NO thats just silly propagating false figures NSW swingers that site is a sham but even they say the above ! My 7 year old knows more about health than they do ! Right it links to your source! Stalky again 30/9 I mean to say, if you can jog to the nearest park from your house, you can get a blow job off a dude while you are there. We reckon he hangs out in the pits! lI bet you a bag of licourice that they aren't listed in RHP as gay guys…..So Stalky males are gay? U must be in heaven Hi, My words have been taken out of context and my source of info is direct from the doctors at the sex clinic. Good answer say what ever u want but don’t quantify it with the written referneces. Just trust me I have a deal for u. We say no thanks quantify it and prove it. As Brae says school, uni, u had it all drummed in ….sounds like computer games rather than research that u may nominate and when we challenge its ……don’t feed the debate Should we start on page 2 now?
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15 years ago
... hehehe. Hugs Stalky
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15 years ago
Prove what you say ! No no lovely YOU PROVE what you say dont just sit in your lounge chair propagating miss information and quoting sham sites (that site also told the general public they should buy thier erection pills from their sister site ......SHAM) Wether or not you list a couple of genuine site does not give your validity. Lets see your Facts ! Nope I wont accept your nonesense from tribal hearsay you havent produced anything other than your opinion. NO sham websites ! The arguement you started which you are yet to prove is its safe to have sex without a condom as long as you dont have anal sex - RUBBISH! I continued this as YOU are putting others at risk. You are the problem ! You simply can not have sex without a condom and be safe in a swinging situation ......I dont need to prove it ! ........ so get going hairy boy start on page 2. Brae
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15 years ago
The original question was? How much protection do you use? How often are you tested for STDs including Chlamidia which is done with a swab? Are you worried about STDs? Does anyone actually have safe sex in a foursome with gloves, condoms & dams and no kissing? Would love to hear from you. What is you opinion on all of this! Brae, Of all the responces only 3 couples on this thread state they are looking for foursome but single bi girls and boys plus couples like you where the male is insecure about his wife having sex with another guy or / and encourage your wife to bring in a Bi girl, so you can have a fuck on the side without sharing your wife. The original question was directed at couples that actually swap (u know foursome) as to what happens in reality. Dont be so stupid " its safe to have sex without a condom as long as you dont have anal sex - RUBBISH! " We answered the post with what we do, and why . Lets try once more to get thru your head, We believe anal sex is the most dangerous form of sex out not only from STD but also other health risks, therefore by only associating with couples that DO NOT do anal sex we have taken some risk out. I find it ironic you have so much to say about foursomes / couples swapping and you dont even couple swap, along with your bi single girls and guys. We would never swing with u just cant tick one box sorry, so rest assured you are protected from the evil swingers like us. Imagine thats why RHP has five sections: 1/ALLways for all Activities 2/Intercourse only 3/Sometimes 4/if reqiured 5/Never So you can look at our profile see we have ticked "if required" reliase that does not comply with your boundries and rules and simply move on and say "Next profile" You havnt done much swinging have you, In this lifestyle dont carry on, we simply move on. "Next Please" That was fun ! Hands up those who like showering with socks on?
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15 years ago
Hey Mr evidence where is your quantitative data ....... So now that you have made me a non swinger and no longer eligable to argue with you it must mean you were right ........nice work ! I like it ....... if I havent had a disease does that make a doctor unable to diagnosis it or how about not being black and understanding that racisim is wrong ? opps I am not black ......simply cant understand .......If I am not overweight and I am a personal trainer does that mean I cant get someone fit and help them loose weight.mmmmm In fact the question revolved around methods of safe sex. Hey and if your not interested in fucking us would you mind not sending us the flirts and friend requests ???? It just confuses us we are simple people hey we dont even truly swing ! Now so you get it through your head ....... Why I keep bantering with you is you put others at risk by your behaviour ......and your nonesense illogical arguement ..... Your right simply dont swing with you ! I would suggest everyone take your advice ! Keep going , I have stamina , you'll get use to it ! Brae .........
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15 years ago
I also got a friend request and i would not have thought I fit anywhere near their category. Swingersnsw, I would take a bet for sure that at least one person in your group of couples friends has anal sex, they just aint going to tell you cos they still want to have fun!!!!
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15 years ago
Deserts, I would think you are right all we can do is try to apply our rules. We are not right all the time wish we were....It would be nice to be like Brae, Honestly you would be surprised how many couples, we have played with say no way to anal with others, We suspect at some stage husband and wife will experiment but no way with others, nor knowingly invite a bisexual male or female that practices anal sex with others, to have sex with them. Bi Oral fine, not a problem. Quoting 'desserts'I also got a friend request and i would not have thought I fit anywhere near their category. Swingersnsw, I would take a bet for sure that at least one person in your group of couples friends has anal sex, they just aint going to tell you cos they still want to have fun!!!!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'desserts'I also got a friend request and i would not have thought I fit anywhere near their category. Swingersnsw, I would take a bet for sure that at least one person in your group of couples friends has anal sex, they just aint going to tell you cos they still want to have fun!!!! OH THANK GOD ! Dessert you hit it on the head !
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15 years ago
Quoting 'swingersnsw' Brae excellent checklist but feel compelled to comment on some of it. 1/We have trusted of GP to look after our sexual health all our lives without any complaints. Are you and others suggesting we should not trust our GP on a professional or cost basis. 2/ Back to anal sex everyone is making it sound as if it carries the same risk as oral and Virginal sex. Anal sex is not only risky even with condoms from stds it also has other health risks that oral and virginal sex does not have. Tearing of the Anus, Colon , which leads to terrible infections , cancer and is well documented these conditions lead to death. Until you have cared for a family member how has had their bowels removed due to cancer I doubt you would understand the loss of dignity it’s a terrible way to die. Repeated anal sex may cause hemorrhoids, piles and weakening of the anal sphincter, which leads to your shit escaping involuntarily. This is really moving to the dark side, it’s a unnatural way of fulfilling the sexual desire, Is it a coincidence how nature steps in and gives us HIV/AID. We could list more, but ultimately the decision is yours Methinks this latest diatribe might just be the most beautiful Freudian slip. Sometimes if I'm missing any form of sex for a while I feel virginal, but I spose I can always dream of feeling a virgin... Is that very risky??????
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15 years ago
Within 100 KLM of us there is 240 couples that dont use condoms for oral sex, that swap partners for sex. According to a RHP search. The answers were under noses on RHP, simply search and look at the results.
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15 years ago
RHP is a interesting place....some more search results couples within 100 klm of us 950 couples use condoms if requied (wonder if that means by others?) 750 couples use condoms sometimes (wonder if that means if they require depending on circumstances) 50 couples say they will never use condoms
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15 years ago
And youve got a friend ! Thats good you no longer need to keep sending me friend requests ! Join the fun ...... pinkie one is never enough ! Heheheheehhehehehehheheheheh. Wow you've got sometime up your sleeve as well youve been looking at data ........ well I did ask didnt I ! So well done, 2 points for doing as told and 1 point for bringing a friend !!!!! Here's one for you Globally, around 11% of HIV infections are among babies who acquire the virus from their mothers; 10% result from injecting drug use; 5-10% are due to sex between men; and 5-10% occur in healthcare settings. Sex between men and women accounts for the remaining proportion – around two thirds of new infections. That figure is a 2008 figure and is worldwide it comes from Avert the worldwide recognised leader in HIV /AIDS charities .... sheeeeesh what would they know ! NOt convinced then "By the end of 2007, the epidemic had left behind 15 million AIDS orphans, defined as those aged under 18 who have lost one or both parents to AIDS" ....fairly sure that these came from male to female sex. now I would reference these but they go on using crazy sources like the Lancet and WHO and UNAIDS ...... who are they anyway ? You see this is not about you and me! Your just a crazy little cyber buddy to me who is a little mixed up. The point of my info is that you can't take someones word for thier sexual history ...... your point that you ask your partners history, sadly in 1963 might have worked ...well no it would not have but ..... it just doesnt work cause people fib. Do me a favour get on men's secret business there are stories of very straight married guys who claim to be completely monogomous to thier wives who are having anal etc ....with other blokes.... if they are NOT telling thier wives why would they tell you ?? Your right my sanctimonious little tirad does not make me know best for all, but I wont sit by and let misinformation be propelled into the ether ..........if its not safe, its not safe. OH and cause people do it doesnt make it the right thing to do, your mum taught you that. Hey and WESTLAKES bloke you cheeky bugger .....lol nice pick up ! Brae ............. filling up page three
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15 years ago
Oh Brae , Sorry Brae working for a living is a fact of life untill you acquire enough wealth without bludging, we taught our kids around your age that. Please visit http://www.avert.org/aids-hiv-australia.htm Pasted below from your / our joint source: Transmission in Australia continues to occur primarily through sexual contact between men. Around 66% of people newly diagnosed with HIV in 2008 were among men who have sex with men; 27% were exposed through heterosexual contact; 3% were due to injecting drug use; and a further 3% were men with a history of both injecting drug use and sex with other men. In 5% of cases the route of HIV transmission was categorised as other or undetermined. What you are doing is applying 3rd world figures to Australia and the Western World as scare tactics: Shame on you.
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15 years ago
Brae, Seriously why would a hetrosexual swinging couple be interested in secret mens business on a sex site like RHP. Of course it will be gay / homosexual / Bi Male. Do u spend a lot time there?....Love the photo of your ass, with stockings and suspenders. When are u going to unblock us so we can be your friend again? We are interested in swinging, thats partner swapping as strange as it might seem to you.
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15 years ago
Of the reported 24,296 people diagnosed with HIV in Western Europe in 2008: 42% probably acquired HIV through heterosexual contact; 35% were men who had sex with men; 4% were injecting drug users; 30% were female; and 10% were 15 to 24 years old. Sauce p: avert.org Conclusion: NEVER HAVE HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH EUROPEANS. :p Hugs Stalky
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15 years ago
Stalkie u naughty boy, Selective quoting Europe????? Buddies with OH Brea? We are in Australia who cares about europe? 66% of gay male sex is responsible for HIV here! The most unsafe state being NSW And QLD being the safest ....must be highest proportion of older hetrosexual swingers....Dont u think? Quoting 'stalky'Of the reported 24,296 people diagnosed with HIV in Western Europe in 2008: 42% probably acquired HIV through heterosexual contact; 35% were men who had sex with men; 4% were injecting drug users; 30% were female; and 10% were 15 to 24 years old. Sauce p: avert.org Conclusion: NEVER HAVE HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH EUROPEANS. :p Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Now seriously, thats really quite bad would at a guess 5% of the general population be gay? I dont know because we dont go there, So if you had a population of 1000......5% gay males = 50 men 95% hetrosexual = 950 people equal male and female . But the 50 gay males is making up 35% of aid cases so thats a 1 in 3 chance a gay male will have aids? 950 hetro sexual making 40% of aid aid cases thats a 1 in 57 chance a hetrosexual couple will have aids. Maybe if we applied the correct populations that would open more. Just applying that basic logic it implies that Homosexual sex is 19 times more likely to contract aids based on 2008 Eurpean reported data. That is really quite disgusting in the gay community ....Dont u think? West lake Bloke could you justify the space u take up and do a spell check Thanks. Quoting 'stalky' Of the reported 24,296 people diagnosed with HIV in Western Europe in 2008: 42% probably acquired HIV through heterosexual contact; 35% were men who had sex with men; 4% were injecting drug users; 30% were female; and 10% were 15 to 24 years old. Sauce p: avert.org Conclusion: NEVER HAVE HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH EUROPEANS. :p Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Without any doubt you are a troll but hey... I bet your back is hairy. :) . Firstly, I recall seeing figures about the number of men identifying as homosexual being around 13% in Australia... the actual number being higher because a number of gay men are closeted. . Secondly, it is highly likely that gay men have a bigger number... i.e. more partners... not to say that all gay men are sluts, but even I recognise that a promiscuous gay man can quite easily have sexual contact with over 40 other dudes on a mardi-gras weekend, and some guys do that every weekend.... that kind of promiscuity has o equal in the heterosexual community except for sex workers. A guy who contracts HIV by receptive anal sex can turn around and transfer it to the next person he penetrates... which may not be a man... that's how it works. The religious based idea that hiv is a gay disease is wrong. In Africa it is mostly spread by heterosexual intercourse and transferred by breast milk to children. It is the unsafe sex that causes widespread HIV not sexuality. . It is therefore easy to appreciate that promiscuity is the risk. If you abstain, you still might contract a HIV but your risk profile is lower than if you a a rampant slut. . If you want to play safer... then don't fuck any sluts. Now, by reason that you're into barebacking swingers... therein lies the irony of this debate. . The safest course for any of us, sluts one and all, is to be regularly tested. It is safer for everyone if everyone gets tested regularly. Having negative results is very re-assuring and one tends to celebrate by having sex. :p Sure, You can rule out different types of sexual intercourse if you want, but barebacking is one of the most unsafe sex practices so far as STD's are concerned. Not actually knowing if you are in fact safe, is another. Sexuality is not a consideration so far as I am concerned. Hugs Stalky
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