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Sex in Public
January 31 2012
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RHP User
14 years ago
...ladies toilet at the pub is not a public place so go for it Stalky, what's the best dogging experience you've ever had?
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RHP User
14 years ago
The park in the middle of the night is okay then because all "innocents" should be safely tucked up in thier own beds. So long as I am not veiwed by passing cars all is good then.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I've got it half sorted. See, in essence the best policy is to ensure that at least one party swallows all the evidence. That'll learn those pesky peeping coppers! As for the innocents.... As opposed to the innocence which is prolly a brandname for incense, they are just as legally able to be out wandering around nude on a nudist beach late at night as any lovebirds... the trick here seems to be discretion. I'm thinking out allowed here but if my cock is completely concealed from view by the back of someone's head... where's the obscene exposure?? Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ah Stalky, you've just ignited a fire that we'll hopefully be fuelling on our return to playing! (New addition's kinda put all that on hold at the moment!)
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RHP User
14 years ago
I have recently realised that there is a whole world of sex clubs and dogging activities going on right under my nose! Although I am not particularly observant I must admit.... Stalky you should take people on mystery tours around Sydney, open some eyes. :p xx Meeka
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RHP User
14 years ago
A guy here just got 18 months for having a wank in his car, he was in the car park in the middle of the day had a towel over his member. He got jail Yes guys its a public offence and very embarrassing for you in court, and yes a good laugh is had by all at your expense. Men more than women can get prison if they happen to wave their willy in the wrong direction in a public place, Including taking a piss against a tree. Ignorance of the law will not save your naked bum. There is a pub in Sydney and a guy with beer goggles on, thought I was a hot number and he followed me to the ladies toilet and he came right in behind me, and got in the cubicle with me. Cheeky bugga .I said honey I do not think the police will be happy if we get caught like this , he wanted to watch me pee, bless his cotton sox He said no problems I am the police and showed me his badge,and yep him and his mates were undercover cops. We kept in touch over the years when I went over on business. Him and his mates, sexy little sods they liked the challenge of trying to get women to do naughty things in public.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Australian Capital Territory - Crimes Act 1900 - Section 393 - 'indecent exposure' - penalty 12 months. The "Minister" may declare a public area where public nudity is permitted. See: Nudity Act 1976 An Act to permit nudity in certain public places. New South Wales - Summary Offences Act 1988 - Section 5 - 'wilful and obscene exposure' - penalty six months Northern Territory - Summary Offences Act - Section 50 - 'indecent exposure' - penalty 6 months South Australia - Summary Offences Act 1953 - Section 23 - 'Indecent behaviour and gross indecency' - penalty three months and six months respectively Queensland - Summary Offences Act 2005 No. 4 - Section 9 - 'wilful exposure' - penalty 12 months Tasmania - Police Offences Act 1935 - Section 21 - 'Prohibited behaviour' - penalty 12 months. Police Offences Act 1935 - Section 14 - 'Public decency' - one penalty unit. Victoria - Summary Offences Act 1966 - Section 19 - 'wilful and obscene exposure' - penalty two years Western Australia - WA Criminal Code Section 203 - 'Indecent acts in public' - criminal penalty two years. Summary conviction penalty: 9 months and fine of $9,000. so stalky do not come to WAwith that cock in your hand or you may be picking up soap at a regional prison, you lucky boy!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'tuscanred' Australian Capital Territory - Crimes Act 1900 - Section 393 - 'indecent exposure' - penalty 12 months. The "Minister" may declare a public area where public nudity is permitted. See: Nudity Act 1976 An Act to permit nudity in certain public places. New South Wales - Summary Offences Act 1988 - Section 5 - 'wilful and obscene exposure' - penalty six months Northern Territory - Summary Offences Act - Section 50 - 'indecent exposure' - penalty 6 months South Australia - Summary Offences Act 1953 - Section 23 - 'Indecent behaviour and gross indecency' - penalty three months and six months respectively Queensland - Summary Offences Act 2005 No. 4 - Section 9 - 'wilful exposure' - penalty 12 months Tasmania - Police Offences Act 1935 - Section 21 - 'Prohibited behaviour' - penalty 12 months. Police Offences Act 1935 - Section 14 - 'Public decency' - one penalty unit. Victoria - Summary Offences Act 1966 - Section 19 - 'wilful and obscene exposure' - penalty two years Western Australia - WA Criminal Code Section 203 - 'Indecent acts in public' - criminal penalty two years. Summary conviction penalty: 9 months and fine of $9,000. so stalky do not come to WAwith that cock in your hand or you may be picking up soap at a regional prison, you lucky boy! ... and the viable defences for S.203 (WA) are:(a) Identification (ie. The person accused is not the person who did the act);(b) The act was not in public or able to be seen by people in public;(c) The act was not indecent;(d) The doing of the act was in the best interest of the public (this is a question of fact);(e) insanity;(f) Duress; and(g) Emergency.I don't know why Tuscan, but I get the feeling Stalky would be claiming a combination of (d) and (g).
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RHP User
14 years ago
In QLD it is illegal to expose yourself in public, even on the beaches where it's commonly *accepted* it's still illegal to be caught sans apparel. Not only do you face court but you also get put on the sex offenders register. Hell of a way to get out of tuckshop duty at the kids' school!
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RHP User
14 years ago
a few years back, my ex was in the employ of a local council....as an officer of this council she was required to patrol places like council parks..and toilets. on a semi regular basis the police would accompany her while she rousted the perves form their beats at a couple of local parks...parks that were adjacent to sporting fields where children trained and played a range of sports multiple days and nights per week ........... as these 'perves' were ejected from the toilets, and consequently arrested, she'd take photos.....it was an unsavoury part of her job, but one that carried, for her, a sense of satisfaction...she'd been raped in a coucil toilet, by a group of guys who had met there for sex, when she was about 14..... i dont want to go to a toilet, and hear a couple of guys, or even a m/f couple, 'going for it' in the next booth...its a fucking toilet , provided for my convenience, and that of my children, and even my parents, so we can do our business, not a place for people to meet......... the local parks not safe after dark....because of the wankers that meet there... personally...i'd be the one who would call the police.... and laugh as they hauled your ass off to the lock up...the Qld Times newspaper publishes your name and details when you appear in court for this stuff... and it doesnt go away...you may end up on the 'sex offenders' list.....a sensational way to gain notoriety, dont you think? .............. all for the sake of a little sex? we drive a 5 hour round trip to Byron...so we can use the nude beach...only to be confronted by wankers who want to openly masturbate while we are trying to enjoy the sun, the surf and the sand.....while nude.... i now take photos of these guys...and when they realise that i do...they scamper.. for fear of being exposed as the obscene perves that they are...
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RHP User
14 years ago
The semenal (lol) case in NSW is Regina v Eyles. This guy was wanking in his front yard with nought but a red t-shirt on when his neighbour drove past and called the police. On another occasion he was at it again with nought but a blue T-shirt and a face mask on.. same neighbour. lmfao.. it makes for a good read: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/nsw/NSWSC/1997/452.htmlThe key element here is that nobody said that they could see his penis. The point being that, by reason of the circumstances of his fence being as it was, his genitals could have been seen from a public place... and he had wilfully and obscenely exposed his penis and genital area within view from a public place. Had the fence been constructed differently, and let's say, the public had to pry apart a garden hedge to see his willy, then he might have had a defence... that is, that he had not wilfully exposed himself publicly. Which brings me to my point..... If I lock the toilet cubicle door while I service these tipsy ladies in the toilets at the pub, then surely I am off the hook?Which brings me to another point.... on the nudist beach everyone is exposing their genitals. That's "acceptable" public behaviour. If my dick is planted into the mouth of my lover and completely concealed, surely I am better dressed (i.e. less exposed) than those around me? hehe. So where is the issue?Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
The issue Stalky, is that even though your dick might be concealed in a mouth you are still committing an indecent act in public. Well some would call it indecent. Although I have heard it is an adequate defense to say you tripped and your dick happened to fall in their mouth, the accident defense. :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yeah Meeks, I get the concept, but that idea is now codified by legislation in NSW to this:"A person shall not, in or within view from a public place or a school, wilfully and obscenely expose his or her person" Maximum penalty: 10 penalty units or imprisonment for six months.Seems to me, that sex in public place is not itself illegal, unless you are seen willfully and obscenely exposing yourself. I can appreciate that the obscenity is the sexual act. The wilfull exposure part is missing though? No?HugsGaz
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RHP User
14 years ago
I am thinking of TV shows... do you occasionally see a TV show where a head job is being suggested by reason that someone's head is obscuring someone else's genital area? I can't think of a particular example, but I think Ive seen that on TV before??HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
Thanks Mike, taking photos of men wanking at the beach without their consent is every bit as illegal and obscene as the wanking itself. Two wrongs do not make a right out of either of them. In any case, I agree with you, I'm not in the least bit interested in doing something illegal myself, or inciting someone else to do so. I am talking about discretion. People need to be discrete to have sex in public. The question is, how discrete do they need to be... and the answer would obviously depend on the circumstances. So, if the guys wanking around you have each pitched a colourful little beach tent in which to do their wanking in private, perhaps looking out through a little window ... hehe.... would that be against the law?Also, I was talking about setting up an office in a pub toilet, not a public toilet, and for consensual sex. I'm the last person to go around having sex with people without a very strong clear invitation.HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'newkee' ... and the viable defences for S.203 (WA) are:(a) Identification (ie. The person accused is not the person who did the act);(b) The act was not in public or able to be seen by people in public;(c) The act was not indecent;(d) The doing of the act was in the best interest of the public (this is a question of fact);(e) insanity;(f) Duress; and(g) Emergency.I don't know why Tuscan, but I get the feeling Stalky would be claiming a combination of (d) and (g). I'd sprinkle in a little duress as well.... I can only handle so much chanting... "stalky stalky stalky stalky" .... before I crack under the peer pressure.HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
yea i know that what we do...is not entirely correct...but it works... i tried the 'get in their face' trick... but that usually leads to trouble....... lol.... read what you wrote, and agree with some...or the sentiments at least.... the nudity isnt necessarily the probelm....its the sex act.....nudity is one thing...but changes entirely when you add sex to the equation... the discretion thing would be hard to pin down...as everyones standards are shades and degrees different from the next person... whats ok with you, may not be with us, and what we like might not suit the next person.. i guess it would be a very clever person indeed who could nut something out thats generic and suits all occasions......just saying..
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RHP User
14 years ago
It's early in the year. But I nominate this thread for TOTY. . Hehe... So when I sneak out the back in the morning to water the vegie patch I need to put on underwear? Or is it ok as long as I'm not doing any 'fertilising'?
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RHP User
14 years ago
lolz. Just make sure you're discrete when you do whatever it is that you like to do with those vegetables. This goes a long way towards explaining that bunny tail, sweetcheeks. :pThat large red thing you're waving around in your hands... that is a carrot right?HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
I am not a big fan of public sex at all. I get pissed off when men show me their willy when I am out walking , and where I live there are guys that go to the park and meet other guys for a quick suck and fuck. Not that I do not mind watching that at all, but its not fair on the innocents that happen upon such action, especially kids. I was once in a park it was night, all alone winter walking my dog, who was out of site in the darkness. I heard my dog give a deep guttural growl and came out of the darkness like the hound of the Baskaville, he is a German Shepard cross, who looks like a big African hunting dog. I did not realise but a guy was behind me having a wank, the dog went for him and the guy ran as fast as he could trying to pull his daks up at the same time. Lucky the dog did not bite him, but hey I could always tell the cops he miss took that for cocktail Frankfurt. You get what you deserve if you have sex in a public place and piss of the rest of us trying to just enjoy the space. I have done it myself and thought after WTF , I gave a guy a blow job in the car park, at a park, but it was pissing rain so nobody was out and about. I have had public sex a few times and now realise that I could have not only embarrassed myself but also pissed someone else off in a big way. Your right be discreet as you can and be prepared to take responsibility if you get caught in that act and have to pay the penalty.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Errrrm. Look... People who leap out of bushes and wank in front of unsuspecting members of the public are sick fuckers that must be sanctioned. We can't have that kind of thing going on, same goes for guys on the beach lecturously wanking off to the people around them. I don't like it one bit... these public spaces should be safe places to be, and used by the public for their relaxation and enjoyment without the extreme discomfort, fear or anxt of being confronted by some fucken wanker. I'm interested in enjoyment. Harmless, harmonious uses of a public place, where a bit of consensual sex between friends, can be enjoyed in the wild... overlooking the harbour for instance. No harm no foul! Hehe I just don't want to be arrested for it... hence the topic of discussion! What if we are on a boat? How far away from others do we need to be? Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
To answer to your question sex on a boat The no go zone: The canoe still on top of your car. The dingy while its still on the trailer and your mate is driving the car while you give her/him one A jet ski, though the sensations may be pretty intense when you hit a bump The sea biscuit as you cruise past people having a picnic on the shore line Dragon boat as the other rowers might get jealous, give a whole new meaning to Stroke! Stroke! Stroke! Not the blow up mattress at the family BBQ Unless its a grown up party for swingers. The go for it zone Out at sea on a trawler( I have one of those if you need to use it) Sailing but not near Xmas island or customs may think your boat people, working hard to get the centrelink baby bonus A cruise ship in your own cabin , not on the captains table. And especially on any Italian cruise ship. A catamaran again way out at sea, unlike a person I know who though they were way out at sea and was porking some ones wife. Sad to say that the yacht club was not that far away that the gathering few with binoculars saw the whole thing. White boat, in Monaco with assorted Italian stallions Cargo ship, anywhere you please as the crew are not that fussy what hold or hole you use. Navy ships, then all bets are off, just look for the boys in the fishnets they give the best head.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Here we go again.
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RHP User
14 years ago
No, it's illegal. But the same as stealing and murder.... Only if you get caught! Sex in a public toilet is illegal regardless of door being opened or closed. Same deal though - only if you're sprung! So.... What act is more offensive? The couple having sex in the cubicle, or the person who looks under the door to see them??? Hmmm. Ponder that sports-fans!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Krissy... Book me and take me away, handcuff me and throw me over the car hood. I need to be frisked first... Mmm is that truncheon between your legs or are you just happy to see me?
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RHP User
14 years ago
you dont have to be 'seen'....the law is clear on this....it an 'offensive' act, if even one person is offended. and there only has to exist the 'chance' you mightve been seen, for the police to arrest you on public indecency or obscene behavior charges, without anyone making a complaint. people are fooling themselves when they claim its legal...all councils have an 'appropriate use' clause in their bylaws...the toilets can ONLY be used for the purposes they were designed for, and meeting for sex or loitering, isnt included.its why councils like Logan here in Qld regularly roust the guys who are using their toilets as 'beats', but they do so with police back up, and a photographer attending. Ipswich city council publishes all charged offenders names in the Qld Times weekly. my thread ....about being accosted by two guys just inside the doorway to the toilet block itself, seems to have been deleted...and that pisses me off....it was something important that really disturbed me...and not a topic like so many we see...that are trivial and trite. its not a light hearted topic at all, and it deserves much more thought than a few jokes and some nasty comments. we've seen the toilets in our local park locked up tight and put out of use, due to drug use and a couple of rapes. now they are unlocked again, it took maybe a week for the first condoms and syringes to be found, and that pisses me off, as does people defending this misuse.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Why a well debated topic of importance was deleted. Especially since a lot of people seemed to think that behavior was actually legally allowed! Nice post Mike. Factual and a more common occurrence than people would like to believe.
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RHP User
14 years ago
places,parks,beaches,is a fantasy for many people but in reality I wonder how many actually do it. I once saw a couple perched high in a cotton tree in a local par. I dont think they were bird watching but that is the only time I have ever noticed people indulging outdoors. Why people would choose a public toilet is too disturbing to even contemplate. Mike it is horrible to think that vulnerable people ,including children could have walked into that situation and I cant imagine why RHP closed that thread down. x Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
Mike did you ever contemplate that they may have been undercover police? You do get them everywhere you know...posing as hookers on a street corner...on the internet posing as 14 year olds! Just a thought! Or maybe they had organised to meet someone (maybe over the net) at the time that you walked in and they thought you were him? You never did say what time of the day or night it was...were there kids in the park at the time? If so, why not call the police? I am just asking...not having a go....Just curious! I was going to ask you on your thread last night, but it was gone when I went looking for it..No idea why it closed...who knows why half the threads get closed these days! . As for sex in public and in the toilets...I say each to their own as long as they are not doing it with kids around and also not to accost someone that is going in to just use the loo. There are public toilets that are well known by everyone that are homosexual hangouts....there were 2 in the next suburb to me and now the Council has pulled them down and built those automated ones that you see...One toilet per male and one per female and they do open after a certain amount of time...Geez I would hate to be constipated or have the runs lol. Hugs...xFunlovingx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Mike did you ever contemplate that they may have been undercover police? You do get them everywhere you know...posing as hookers on a street corner...on the internet posing as 14 year olds! Just a thought! Or maybe they had organised to meet someone (maybe over the net) at the time that you walked in and they thought you were him? You never did say what time of the day or night it was...were there kids in the park at the time? If so, why not call the police? I am just asking...not having a go....Just curious! I was going to ask you on your thread last night, but it was gone when I went looking for it..No idea why it closed...who knows why half the threads get closed these days! . As for sex in public and in the toilets...I say each to their own as long as they are not doing it with kids around and also not to accost someone that is going in to just use the loo. There are public toilets that are well known by everyone that are homosexual hangouts....there were 2 in the next suburb to me and now the Council has pulled them down and built those automated ones that you see...One toilet per male and one per female and they do open after a certain amount of time...Geez I would hate to be constipated or have the runs lol. Hugs...xFunlovingx no...i didnt hang around long enough to check either of them out. its was a case of immediately seeing red and thinking 'what the fuck?'......
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' Mike still has to answer some questions on how he found himself in that situation. This whole thing is being painted as though two men were having sex in a toilet and accousting any one who walked in. I just find this incredibly hard to believe. I know it goes on but to arguably even suggest that it happens in broad daylight with people around is just absurd to me. That type of behaviour would more be found down at a nude beach. Unsolicated innuendos of sex abound down there. Mike please explain it all so myself can make an informed judgement. are you serious? its not me who has to explain anything...I walked in on 2 guys, and was immediately 'hit up'....maybe they thought i was some one else, maybe they were police officers like funloving suggested...I dont know why they were there, or how long, or even if they had ever been there before........ toilets in public parks arent places i frequent, and even preferred to take my onw kids (i have 5) to places like macdonalds if they needed to 'go'...........
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RHP User
14 years ago
I did it in all those situations!!! hahahanothing more exciting than doing it in "forbidden places" ...and I'ld love to add... the staircase in the building where you work, balconies of beautiful city apartments and in the car in a public carpark in the middle of the day....Don't miss those, people, trust me!!!
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Smilingwithfun
14 years ago
Amazing the law. If i'm busting & pee behind a tree i could get 6 months in jail for indecent exposure{ At the court i'd drop my pants & be acquitted thru lack of evidence} yet can get caught drink-driving,driving without a licence,unregistered car & probably just get a fine Go Figure
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think RHP is fine to start the thread again, if you feel strongly. Personally I do not think its on, if I walked into public toilets and two guys approached me or I heard two guys behind a cubicle. I would not use the toilets and be out of there so fast. Dont think I would dob them in, but would be scared and discusted. I can remember being charged by police when I was a teenager for having a piss in a dark carpark, behind a tree when the pub was closed. So I accept the law, havnt done that again. Dont we have to abide by Australian law?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hesione, are you serious? Do pple really have sex in public? LMFAO. I have to say this.... Where have you been? I am really shocked how ultra conservative this forum has become. This is an adult dating/sex site .... What are all you people doing here if this your attitude? That is not specifically aimed you Hesione but a general comment.
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RHP User
14 years ago
No idea why the thread was closed.... Unless it was my comments? I find it disturbing how narrow minded people are and the way people's comments seemed to suggest that men looking for other men would automatically hit on anyone and even a child coming into a public space. It's bullshit! Those people are called pedophiles not men looking for other men for an anonymous root. And again... If it was illegal I reckon half the men of Australia would be locked up by now.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It was MY comment Meeka that didn't suggest that gay men in toilet blocks hit on children , I asked you how you would feel as a parent if your child went into a public toilet cubicle and saw a dick poking through the wall. Because that happens - a lot! I made no mention of pedophilia, these men don't give a toss who goes into the next stall as long as they get their dick sucked. Can a person on here not have a moral compass? Does everyone have to let it all hang loose and fuck and suck anything with a pulse anywhere and anytime? Call me conservative anytime but I standards which I make no apologies for. For snyone to believe that it is legal to accost and have sex with someone in a public place simply astonishes me!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I avoid public toilets and either hold on for as long as humanly possible or discretely wee in the bushes same as my kids before using them......I suppose that's illegal too depending on distance lol!I think if it's for e.g; 3am and you are in a private public area with a consenting adult there is no harm done.I like beds.Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think your attitude stinks Apollo13. Let's agree to disagree and I will not read your posts from now on. I don't want to waste my time on such a negative narrow minded perspective.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Meeka about people having sex in public if they are not frightening dogs and children. My point was that it seems to be a fantasy for many.For some reason you have chosen to misunderstand my comments, and make assumptions about my views. It is disgusting, if people are having sex in public toilets during the day and next to a playground,...in my opinion. Howeve, if that is something you wish to indulge in ,then that is your perogative. ...Hesione
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yes that is exactly what I said Hesione. Good pick up... Out of nothing. I have never said it was acceptable for this to happen around kids and kids parks. That is obviously not okay. You can shove your moral compass where the sun don't shine
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Smilingwithfun' Amazing the law. If i'm busting & pee behind a tree i could get 6 months in jail for indecent exposure{ At the court i'd drop my pants & be acquitted thru lack of evidence} yet can get caught drink-driving,driving without a licence,unregistered car & probably just get a fine Go Figure Then I guess I should be locked up for a WERY long time..... Who cares... IS WORTH IT!! HAHAI agree with you though!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
How popular it is for many couples & singles to explore in public place. Obviously if they are reckless about this practice they could end up in court. But people attracted to this fetish find the 'right' places. Mostly nude beaches & the like, where the risk of offending someone is almost 0% if they know where/how to do it. It's rare to find children @ the beach as part of a family of nudists but if so, they are normally close to the entrance to the beach a long way away from any promiscuous activites. It's funny when people in SE Qld/Goldie complain about the well known beach & the amount of 'wankers' around. Agreed, they are a nuisance but easily avoided if you go to certain parts of the beach where they will not be (close to beach entrance the best option). If a guy offends you at the beach, tell him to f off, i think it's fair game. If only some of them took the time to enjoy the beach & whatever goes on by summing up the people & what they are there for. Have fun, enjoy, don't judge others quickly & respect everyone's preferences people.
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RHP User
14 years ago
One of the sexiest times I have had was in a public toilet.... Met a girl from here at a pub(happened to be run by someone I new). She was sexy as hell. Turned up with knee high boots a mini skirt and to be honest I don't rmemeber the rest. What I did find out soon though was ther was nothing under her skirt. She was freshly waxed and smooth as silk. There's not much sexier than a smooth wet pussy. mmmm. Whilst my fingers got busy sitting at the corner bench, she let me know of one of her fantasies... To have sex in a public place which explained how wet she was. I went to the toilet and checked the coast was clear, got her and went to the end stall. All of this was very exciting and after entering her from behind, I decided if I was going to do this, then I would do it properly and asked if she'd do anal. She agreed and I was fucking a sexy woman in her butt in a toilet at my friends pub(he didn't know). Was a great angle, one foot and the ground and her other on the seat. mmmm. She finished my off with her mouth when she was done. That was a good night!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Hesione, are you serious? Do pple really have sex in public? LMFAO. I have to say this.... Where have you been? I am really shocked how ultra conservative this forum has become. This is an adult dating/sex site .... What are all you people doing here if this your attitude? That is not specifically aimed you Hesione but a general comment. So unless I find this behaviour acceptable, I am an ultra conservative and should leave this site? Tell me, where do you draw the line on what is acceptable then?
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RHP User
14 years ago
That's where the line gets blurred Meeka. Because too many people do have their compass shoved up their ass and only think of their own immediate gratification, and not about any possible consequences of their actions. Obviously this isn't the standard light and fluffy thread, and opinions and judgements may be harsher than in other threads. I'm not singleing you out and attacking you, I'm mentioning your name because I'm making direct reference to your comments - nothing more. A topic like this is well worth debating but bound to get heated at times. My views aren't narrow minded- they're very broadly thought out because I consider all aspects of the situation including possible consequences. And I'm a consequences kind of girl... Don't write me off because we heartily disagree in this thread!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think I just got pricked by Apollo Thirteens moral compassx Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
Absolutely correct. Usually. Some of them are - but that's off topic. My comments about children in this situation come from personal experience. The problem can be their (the men) need to be so anonymous they don't consider who walks into the toilet cubicle! And to me that makes the action in itself sick and twisted. Not so sure they could be considered "straight"!! Maybe a tad bent?
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RHP User
14 years ago
It's all good... It's well and truly embedded in a place you could only reach with a strap-on!! :-0
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greeneyescpl
14 years ago
in the ocean while other adults swam around us, they didn't realize we thought,one women in her 50's smiled at us later when we walked out and i wasn't back to normal size;-) - it happened in south america, south of france and in greece....mmmm beautiful nude beaches thereon the plane, that was when we were young, my that time gf was actually sick (light fever) but not that sick enough to have a quickie in the toilet on the way back from overseas, i have guided and 'helped' her,people saw us hours before when she felt unwell at the airport ;-) the crew knew that she didn't felt well but after we walked out of the toilet the one stewardess couldn't stop smiling at us...she was a cutie too ;-) at a concert, further outside from the crowd but people walking around everywhere....hot summer night and at 3am ;-)i made my gf come while on the dance floor at the zoom festival overseas in the crowd, it was so packed nobody could look down at my hands or her skirt and no undies ;-)we loved the quickie it in the change cabins...we love being naughty in public places....not in Australia of course...it's not allowed....only overseas....
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Smilingwithfun
14 years ago
I'm thinking that Stalky was thinking about consenting adults doing it for a thrill on a few occasions rather than men in public toilets that are there for that reason. I think that most who where to have sex outside would be doing it later at night, long after kids had gone to bed & in areas away from people.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'Krissy_G' Mike still has to answer some questions on how he found himself in that situation. This whole thing is being painted as though two men were having sex in a toilet and accousting any one who walked in. I just find this incredibly hard to believe. I know it goes on but to arguably even suggest that it happens in broad daylight with people around is just absurd to me. That type of behaviour would more be found down at a nude beach. Unsolicated innuendos of sex abound down there. Mike please explain it all so myself can make an informed judgement. are you serious? its not me who has to explain anything...I walked in on 2 guys, and was immediately 'hit up'....maybe they thought i was some one else, maybe they were police officers like funloving suggested...I dont know why they were there, or how long, or even if they had ever been there before........ toilets in public parks arent places i frequent, and even preferred to take my onw kids (i have 5) to places like macdonalds if they needed to 'go'........... That you took your bike ride at 10 oclock at night. I left home at 730am, for a ride with a couple of guys from the Harley dealership (Morgan and Wackers) at Southport. It was more like 2pm on Thursday, after riding approximately 300kms without a pit stop. I dont visit parks or council toilets for any reason normally, but did so, as I had an urgent need to relieve myself.....I had called into a service station only minutes prior, to be told the toilets were no longer available to the public, due to patrons shooting up in them........ .I knew of the toilets only due to having visited the park adjacent with an all girl soccer team my then fiance was coach of... dont make the mistake of lumping me in with guys who frequent public toilets for sex...the practice disgusts me, not only because of the overpowering stench of both feces and urine, but also due to many being the haunts of drug users..... these are public places FFS , designed for the convenience and use of the public.....thats you, me,our partners, our parents, our children, our neighbours etc. they are NOT designed for desperate and selfish men to use for their own private perversions. my wife and I play, which is why we are members here, and elsewhere....why would i need to frequent public toilets to pursue something thats welcomed and promoted already in my home?
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RHP User
14 years ago
now i'm really annoyed....and quite a bit offended to be honest. I DO NOT frequent public toilets for 'casual encounters' with other males, or with anyone for that matter... i dont condone it, i dont agree with it, and to be frank and honest, find the idea to be repulsive. using a public toilet is an issue for me in the first place, as they invariably stink like an open sewer, and every surface is, to me, something to avoid touching....i'll ride 15kms out of the way to find a Macdonalds or similar, rather than use the toilets in a park or even in a pub, so stopping when i did, was entirely and hugely out of character for me, but i did, and immediately regretted it....now tho, i regret even more, having ever mentioned it here, as its been turned into something ugly and unsavoury, by people here... thanks for that, thanks very fucking much.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Both of us are straight and are allways amused at comments that more than half the men in Australia, Visit Public toilets for sex Are secretly Bi. Well the male here has never been hit on nor visited places where male / male sex is likely to happen. We would suggest 99% of aussie guys have no interest in guy/guy sex, but for those that do we dont have a problem they can do that, get married if thats what rings their bell. Of course a Guy that advertises he his Bi, is going to get guys approaching him who list as straight but as a percentage of Aussie guys.....50% where is the credibilty of that statement? If we are at a swingers party and it happened, we would quietly leave and never return. Thinking back a couple years we travelled from Qld to Melbourne house swapping with our 4 children, got a little lost and didnt get to the house till 4am. It is quite possible we could have stopped at public toilets and would be horrified for sex to be going on be it m/f or m/m. How does a family know that have travelled interstate know what toilets that are good for sex? Public Toilets are not the place.....But if you want to play that game I would no problem seeing the police arrest you...But we would stop short of dobbing you in.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Again...but now I cant lmao...it hurts too muchx Hugs H.....it just needs a kiss to make it better
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RHP User
14 years ago
do it but dont get caught
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RHP User
14 years ago
why do you think they close down toilet blocks ( public ones)They just closed down the one here at albany creek because they are used for sex.!!!Oh and Mike NEVER feel you have to explain why you use a friggin toilet in a forum on redhotpie...are they serious.He had to friggin pee!!!Enough said.
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RHP User
14 years ago
x Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
i did some research...which is what i do when i get my back up about something i dont know much about, and found a site called 'cruisinggays''.....this is an international site, and it caters for gays/bi's /lesbians etc who travel.... theres a section on the site that outlines the 'beats' in various cities around the world....and lo and behold, theres a listing for Brisbane. its very detailed and has information including maps and advice on all sorts of places used for sex......13 pages of identified beats in Brisbane, 10 venues per page, and the hours they are the most active. anyone who thinks these sites are 'night time only' is seriously mistaken, as I found out. i have cut and pasted the info that was on the page that describes the area i grew up in.... this is some where we spent just about every afternoon in, riding our pushies, walking the dog, and playing childhood games and where my Wife and I thought we might like to go for a weekend stroll and perhaps a picnic. the Toohey Forest Crowd:Mainly Bi & married and older men 5am - 3pm then it's mainly 25-40yo gay guys until late evening. Directions:11 km south of Brisbane's CBD Drive up into the small car parkCross street: Barnehurst Street Hours:Working men go there on their way to work then throughout the day it's all sorts but mostly gay(ish).Weekends have family groups walking the trails. Cruising Info/ Tips:Be alert and use eye contact. BE DISCREET see Warnings - as " the public " uses this park - joggers,cyclists,mum/dad/kids walking+hiking. Start on left side past the water drink tap and walk up the right side dirt/gravel/pebble terraced trail (the left side trail is the long way up and around BUT more picturesque , some prefer this path as it's easier to make eye contact or say hello ) to the top of the hill. Sit on one of the benches at the top or on any rock ? and wait and......hope. Cruisiest Spots: From the path take right side trail at the "fork in the road" - the gravel terrace - and look up at 1st rocky outcrop for " the ones that can't be bothered going all the way ". Keep going and follow path up to the top then around 100m more to the Western Outcrop. Look for the marked signpost. This 100 m track is the most busy or walk back around to the 1st outcrop or wander around on other pathways. No big trees or thick bushes but there are many rocky outcrops (and lizards !!) WARNINGS :Be careful of police in unmarked cars at night also plain clothes (always young and very fit and very hetrosexual policemen) do the day/afternoon shift here. Women and children from nearby suburb regulary take short cut through to and from Tarrangindi shops. EVERONE has a mobile phone and even 6yo kids know how to press 000 and police will definately respond in under 10 minutes. Believe it !!! Council Rangers and work crews come every Tuesday 10am-2pm for clean up's and regeneration the bush/gardening work, so don't bother as nobody stops when Council vehicles in car park. Sometimes rangers come on Fridays as well but i've been told that they usually checking on native plant (and lizards?) thieves but when they see many used condoms on the ground and espcially on pathways then they report to the police and in next weeks you will have many (Surprise,surprise !) of those really fit and "nice looking" young men walking everywhere about. BE SAFE and do it only with the "oldies" and "fatties" but then they will hardly ever ask for your name and address. Boring !!!!!!! so if you think its isolated...you are wrong...if you think its at 10 pm, or 3am....you are wrong, if you think that its only gays....you are wrong...its married/attached guys sneaking around in the daylight hours.....when mums at work and the kids are at school, the details and advice available, is comprehensive, and the pages are full of reviews......18,378 comments have been posted just for this one venue. i dont do this shit.....never have, never will. it has serious connotations for me, i mentioned earlier in this thread that my ex fiance, who was a council officer, had been raped in a public toilet block, so i'm ever mindful of that, and her memories and scars. She took great delight in being part of a crew that rousted toilets. etc of players....and this was always during daylight hours, never at night................
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hi all, Had my first experience at club x a fortight ago Rolled up with a lady friend around 3pm on a Thursday,there were about a half dozen gents pleasuring them selves. We slipped down towards the front, after getting the feel for the place we starting enjoying ourselves. I made the mistake of crouching down on the floor to eat my desert, eek should of relised that cum would be everywhere on the floor. still had a blast and will be returning
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RHP User
14 years ago
Oh and if you go to our photos on redhotpie,you will see we are guilty of doing just that. Sex in public toilet ....lol it was exhilarating and naughty at the same time, and had a look out so no fear of getting caught, But we had enough time to take photos and it seemed you all loved them..lolI would think you all on here would be open to the lifestyle and everyone little naughty adverntures, if it is not hurting anyone and you are consenting adults why not...i did...and it was fun.I think i should shut up now....but i must say i dont agree with guys in public toilet blocks i have seen it for myself and hated it, it should never be in your face! and we should never have to put up with that sort of behaviour. But you know what they say...." fast as a fag"...lol oops did i say that...strike that comment .Just saying Leesa.xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
There are other sites as well Mike that will tell you where those know gay beats are. Grindr and BiAustralia I think as well. A friend of mine who is in the scene and has told me all about it, and I am telling you it happens all the time all over the place. Don't let your kids go to a quiet public toilet. One assumes that these gay beats are not near children's parks.... But there are predators every where so you can't assume. To me it is a fetish like any other. You may not understand it that doesn't mean you have to go on about it or call those people names. I never said I was into it.To those of you that are insinuating that I am condoning rape, sexually harrassement and abuse of children. How dare you! I am angry because you are making out that all those men would act in this predatory fashion and they don't. What is the difference between couple fucking in the park? Or the nude beach romps that go on? So Mooka, who makes the distinction or draws the line hey? Maybe if you can't see a child? Maybe if children are certain km's away?
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RHP User
14 years ago
I once got kicked out of macca's at 3am for getting my tits out in a "family" resturaunt. Yes i was drunk, but i could see no innocents in sight, just other drunken folks. Seriously who brings their kids to macca's at 3am anyway!
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RHP User
14 years ago
i made no inferences towards children, other than to say that they are included in the group that the toilets are aimed at... my problem is, and always was, that it was daylight hours when this happened, and that it was a park that i know for a fact, is heavily patronized, by the public....of all ages.......... its bad enough these places are less than clean as it is, but when we are confronted by discarded syringes, used condoms (lol yea like they all use these), holes gouged through cubicle walls, grafitti, filth and then this time by men in person......its not even remotely fair.......... that its someones 'fetish' doesnt concern me in the slightest, and thats even offensive on its own...how dare anyone put their fucking fetish before the needs of others? its a toilet.....a place to evacuate your bowels, and to empty your bladder.....in private....and in, we hope, relative safety.the site i looked at was an eye opener.....most of them have warnings about...children, adults, council workers and police...as most of the ones i looked at were near to or adjacent to places the public also congregate. like i said....the one i cut and pasted, has 18 thousand reviews attached to it.....and was being promoted as a daytime meeting place! all carried recommendations as to the likely population patrons would encounter....marrieds, or bi's...or whateverFYI...if we saw a couple fucking in the park...or at the beach, and were offended by it...we'd let them know, or call the police....no problem what so ever..... we frequent the nude beach every summer.....so far we've not seen 1 couple engaging in sex of any kind, at least not that could be seen....which is great because the beach is 'mixed' in that its open to the public, and some bring their kids.....so far the only people we have seen, are single men who wank openly for all to see...and we find this offensive as its not why we are there at all.............i'd say something to these guys, but Shel holds me back, mainly because shes concerned for their safety, instead we point a camera at their heads, and they scamper. why do they scamper? because they know they are doing the wrong thing, and dont wish to be exposed for what they truly are.what fucks with me is having to justify my behavior...why was i using a public toilet? because i had to, i was there out of circumstance, not by design........ what time was it? 2 pm ish...after a long hard, and at times very fast motorcycle ride, and i was tired, a little sore, and in urgent need.......my wife arrives home at 1140 at night, and i'm here with the kids every single evening that I'm not at work myself..........the inference or insinuation that i was there to 'play' is both insulting, and out of line...........the idea offends me.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Mike you have the god-given right to use a public toilet at 2 o'clock in the morning if you choose to. And you also have the right to do so without question and without harassment from any loitering twisted oxygen thief."What are YOU doing at a toilet block at 2am in the morning?????????"Ummmm - taking a piss!How about this.... The general public fiind a couple intimately kissing in public more offensive than they do a couple having a rip-roaring verbal fight. Mike - some people have values, some don't. Can't do much about the latter.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Krissy_G my views come from the simplicity of legal and illegal. "God-given right" was nothing more than an expression. Theres no political agenda or religious belief attached. Just legal or illegal. Not because it feels good and just cause there's no-one else around. Black and white....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'kinkisthenewpink' These men are NOT interested in children. A good chunk of them are married and "straight" Do not generalise!!!I do care A LOT about children, as a matter of fact I have two beautiful daughters that mean everything to me!I'm not married as their mother and I grew apart over the years, but even though we weren't getting along nor having much of a sex life anymore, for the whole time we have been together I have ALWAYS been faithful and NEVER been sleeping around being her back!!!There are people here that just want to have a bit of extra fun but surely know how important respect for others is!
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RHP User
14 years ago
So you have a couple getting it on on a remote beach at night or under the stars in a national park in the middle of nowhere, a couple of consenting, safe sex practising love sick 17 year olds in the back of a car because they can't at home? Whilst it's illegal do you really think it's wrong?Cass xxxQuoting 'ApolloThirteen' Krissy_G my views come from the simplicity of legal and illegal. "God-given right" was nothing more than an expression. Theres no political agenda or religious belief attached. Just legal or illegal. Not because it feels good and just cause there's no-one else around. Black and white....
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think this topic has been very misconstrued from its original intention. Somehow the legality of sex in public areas has turned into gay haunts and child molestation. Get a grip people...lol.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Aussie...my thread on being accosted last thursday by 2 guys in a public toilet ended up deleted...so the conversations continued here. we have a 'grip' and are discussing what happened. this thread was resurrected as a result. the legalities of sex in public places are absolutely linked with the legalities and moral issues of both gay haunts, or 'beats' and exposure of children to sex in these places.....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Here here !!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Fair point Mike.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Aussie...my thread on being accosted last thursday by 2 guys in a public toilet ended up deleted...so the conversations continued here. we have a 'grip' and are discussing what happened. this thread was resurrected as a result. the legalities of sex in public places are absolutely linked with the legalities and moral issues of both gay haunts, or 'beats' and exposure of children to sex in these places..... But when your topic was deleted Mike, this seemed the logical place for discussions started there to continue. I don't understand the people who are so dismissive of concerns expressed about children or adults coming across two men in a public toilet. Their attitudes make no sense to me, especially when they quite also often respond with personal attacks. Hugs... Mrs P tho it was never about kids from my point of view.... i was originally a bit pissed off with the fact that these guys were there, at the time of day that they were... i know it goes on, and have known since my own early teens, due to early 'exposure'. my point is that these facilities are for the broader public to use, and not just the few males who meet there. i needed to use the loo for an urgent and legitimate emergency, but couldnt, in spite of it being provided for specifically that reason. i hate the places, they invariably reek of urine and feces, and are littered with both syringes/packaging and condoms/packets, and i either hang on.....or find somewhere cleaner/safer. i have no problem with m/m sex as such, thats part of how we play, but it has to be at appropriate times and in appropriate places....and i just dont think a council provided toilet at 2pm on a week day is really the time, or place.............even outdoors and exhibitionistic sex is something i understand, and have indulged in, but like i said, time and place.....its not fair to thrust it in anyones face like these guys did............
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RHP User
14 years ago
Multiples_xxx : yes, I do think it's wrong. Black and white... I respect people's grey points of view, but mine is B & W!
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RHP User
13 years ago
My (then) wife, gave a bloke a head job in the toilets at one sport Parramatta, yes she knew him and I was in the bar talking to his wife. Security came to our table and asked them both to leave, when his wife asked why? the security guard told us!!! Shit hit the fan and we ended taking the bloke back to ours for some fun...the wife missed out and they divorced a year later.
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