Swingers scene and the single guy

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  I've never been to a swingers event, nor is it really high on my list of sexual priorities. However, I imagine they discourage guys from going to swingers event as you would have a flood of them going in. It would be like a ratio of 20, 30, 40 guys for every one female (that's assuming they're heterosexual encounters). Unless the woman is into gang bangs, she's probably going to find that situation threatening. And places like this want to encourage more women to attend not the other way around. It will be like the online adult site community where you get a bunch of guys making a nuisance of themselves, approaching women in the scene like they're free prostitutes just there to service them. Except in that case, you can't block out those undesirables. They're in your face, and even worse if alcohol is involved as well. If it's anything like a "Ladies" night at a night club, where the blokes outnumber the women five to one....I personally can't stand those kind of nights, the guys get so aggressive and obnoxious and can't take no for an answer that you fear for your personal safety. Granted not every single guy is an asshole, but it only takes one to ruin it for everyone else. Especially if they're going to be competing with other males for the attentions of the few females who are there. If it was a bi male friendly night, that's a different kettle of fish. It would be more reasonable to have single males allowed if they swing both ways.

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  To start with, your understanding of Swinging is incorrect. Swinging is where couple's swap partners for sex. Parties where single males are invited restrict the number & type of males so that it encourages females & couples to attend. The more females & couples the more males & of course more money. You talk of discrimination, no one under 35 at your parties is there. As far as picky or choosey goes, most people happen to like picking there own playmates & not just bang everybody there because you say they have to. Overall people go to the parties they want to. There are several parties in melbourne that cater for single males. The restrictions they place on them is entirely up the operators. Guys that pay to go to a party will only go back again if they have a good time.They will only have a good time if there are ladies &/or couples who are willing to play with them. Ladies & couples who play at these parties do it because they want to & not because you tell them they have to. Its all a matter of choice. Take people's choice away & you are taking part of there freedom away. There aren't too many people who want you to tell them who to have sex with, unless they are sex workers & get to pocket the money. In your case you get to pocket the money, you get to bang the ladies & you get to complain about other parties on here as well. A little unprofessional to say the least.

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  In reply to the last by Swap and swing ... yes are parties are for 35-55 yr olds .. we advertise it as a GANGBANG party - and not any other type ... but that is not what the topic was about ... it was a general topic. What we were saying if you read the topic is why isnt the single guy allow to attend parties unless he is part of a couple. Yes we get lots of guys ... and as you said .. it is suppose to be swapping ... ok if it is swapping ... how come the females out number the guys in the ratio department ... if a single women attends ... who is she swapping with .... no one .... And as previously said in a comment ... if they like it they go back ... that is very true.. but if they arent allowed to attend how can they ... And just because a guy is 100 kg doesnt make him a slobbing idiot ... We only put this topic up as a general topic ... not as a way to have our name defamed ... it was only out of curiosity for others to maybe question and think ... thats all ....

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  We're expressing our point of view & it obviously isn't to your liking. The points we took up were firstly that the term swinging has nothing to do with single people. You asked out descrimination for older people. We said that you decriminate against younger people. As far as parties for single males, you must surely know there are several parties that single males can attend. The gripe about them not inviting older or otherwise unpresentable males is quite understandable. Why would a party operator invit a bunch of undesirable individuals to a party & then expect sexy ladies & couples to come along & play with them. It dosent makes sense. As far as why do guys have to pay, HELLO guys chase the girls don't you know. If you made ladies & couples pay espesially to come to a party with a bunch of unscreened yobbos you'd soon be redundent. As far as the hypothetical 100kg man. You paint a picture or try to say that these guys are beautiful on the inside. Well may be some of them are. All we said was that a person who gives little or no consideration to the lady can't be beautiful at all. Your original post was more like a complaint than a general topic of discussion. You raised the subject & as far as we are concerned we are entittled to have our say too. You may find others with a different point of view. Sure to be some party operators wondering what the hell you are going on about here. There is no way we can defame you because you are a faceless profile. As a matter of interest, do you pay tax on the money that you earn from having woman come to a venue that you provide for the purpose of having them fuck everyone who comes through the door ? Other parties are very different of course. Guys pay for the privlage of meeting people who may be interested in having sex with them. Yours is, the men pay you to attend a venue where woman who you advertise for turn up & who's only choice is to fuck everyone.

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  Just to clarify a point that was raised .. paying women to attend. Not one single person is ever paid to attend our parties... not men, not women, not couples. Yes we know that there have been/were a few parties that were 'paying' women to attend to boost the numbers ... but we never have and never would. Another point that was raised is why we have the age group we have.. it because it the ages we the orgainsers are. There are a lot of parties around that cater for the 18-34 year olds (but of course they always put the ages to attend from 18 to 50...) and also we found that in this age range we all have things in common. Yes everyone is allowed to have their own point of view and it is great that we have had a response to this topic. Everyone has there own concept of the 'swingers' scene whether it be FMF, MFM, FMFM, FF or MM.. each to their own choice and taste.

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  RHP User

  17 years ago

  Thanks guys and gals and swinger gurus now at last i understand swinging taken me 49 years but what the hell .

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  17 years ago

  When swinging started, (no one really knows when) or became a popular past time couples would meet at a house, put keys in a jar, the ladies would then grab a set and off they would go for the night with whoever owned the keys. How many parties today do this? Short answer NONE. As the saying goes, ‘times they are a changing’. In the days of the Romans, Orgies were the new black. The rich men would though a party, invite all their friends, and gather up and hand full of female slaves and yam bam thank you mam. Single men. As time goes by everything changes, not so long ago women weren’t able to vote, and now they can, etc.. What is a swinger’s party? This is question that has no definite answer; every individual may have a different answer. Just as those that go swingers parties have their own different individual needs and wants. An operator of a swinger’s party is no different. Each one will have their own idea and style of party, and if you ask me, ‘that’s beautiful. Varity is the name of the game.  An operator will generally base their style of party on their own individual interpretation of what they see swinging to be, and hope that others agree. Single men. Firstly in my experience 50% of single guys that go to parties are in fact not single at all, they are guys that are playing up on their partner. 25% of them are single and like it that way, they would much rather have a no strings friendship with a few, then either get involved in a relationship or go to a brothel. The other 25% are the dick heads that spoil it for the other 75%, we all know why they are single, because their dick heads. lol When you talk about discrimination, on behalf of operators, allowing some and not some others think about it. One of the hardest things to do as an operator is to get the balance right at a party that allows single guys. Regardless of ages or body types, you need the attitude to be right also. The balancing act of numbers is a factor that is probably the hardest of all, leading up to a night you may have 20 couples booked in, so you book in a number of guys to suit. There are times when most couples show up, but most of the guys don’t. If you run a party offering couples free entry (borders on illegal, but that’s another story) and the guys don’t show up you end up running the show at your expense. Then there is the opposite situation that can occur. It’s like trying to juggle balls, and every time you though them up you never know how or where they’ll fall. The pricing is the way it is for a reason, to control numbers. A gang bangs party need lots of guys, and is not for everyone (men & women) and therefore the price is lower for the guys Swinger’s parties will continue to change to cater for the changing demands of the people. If your single or if you’re a couple you will all have your own needs and wants, you can all make our jobs a lot easier, if you book in show up or let us know if you can’t make it. Advice to couples & ladies, check what type of party it is before you book in, don’t want extra guys, and don’t go there. Advice to the guys, patience, manors and relax. A swinger’s party is not a place where you’re guaranteed sex. The best out look to have is that you’re going out for a social night with possibilities; you may not connect with someone every time you go.

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