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The Loud Majority?

September 22 2013

There have been a few topics lately and comments in forum threads that demonstrate how judgemental we all are. I personally pride myself on being non judgemental, but get me talking about women who don't take responsibility for their own safety or who hand over their personal power and you'll see me get fired up too. I think it's important to recognize that none of us speak for everybody, whilst we might jump into a topic with both feet it is impossible to know all angles. We are the vocal majority .....but we do not have the right to speak for everybody. Do you recognize the areas where you have a hard time maintaining a balanced view? What are they and why? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I love the smell of irony in the mornings

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have to say that lately , it's become quite apparent that there are Moral Police in the Forums . And it is also sad to witness so many Character Assasinations . Everyone is entitled to an Opinion and everyone is entitled to have an Opinion about someone's Opinion. Please , just don't get Personal and attack Individuals . GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Ahem.... Well okay, okay I have a big mouth to match my big arse. I find it hard to maintain a balanced view about self help books and programmes, religion and astrology... I think a lot of it is bollocks. And it shits me to tears when people keeping talking about their fantasies and what they would like to do but never have the balls to do it. I always have to remind myself everyone is different and we all can't be adventurous, etc. It is definitely my issue not theirs. 😔

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Yeah right. Hehe

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Don't you find sweet irony amusing though?- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I'm with you on that. Firm believer in making things happen if you want it!- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I find it hard not to mock outright prejudice and bigotry. Part of the problem is that sarcasm is often wasted if someone is a hard core bigot. They often take it as agreement.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    One thing that pisses me off is man-bashing! I know I have a rep for coming to the defense of guys more than girls. It's gotten me in trouble before. It just shits me when women take no responsibility for leting themselves be treated badly. Example: He stood me up, what a jerk!!!! Reality: His first message wasn't great, but he seemed nice in his pic. His second email was a bit too explicit for me, but I thought I'd give him a chance. On the phone he was kinda rude, but he did say he was stressed about work. He didn't call to confirm the date, but he was probably busy. And then he stood me up?!? Wow, I never saw that coming! All guys are arseholes, and you can't trust any of them! Arrrrgggh! *Pulls out hair*

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Anyone have a paper bag?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Put your head between your legs!! I have seen women bag other women for man bashing before and they are one of the biggest offenders!! What's with that! (Christ hope I don't do it. 😳) 😝

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    No unbalanced views? It's a point of view so it can be dropped while adjusting a new point of view. Therein is the freedom to balance the resultant points of view for yourself..If you're pertaining to the stringent analysis and inflexibility of people. Those clowns add a certain disrespectful flavour to a world of agreement..It's life Jill, but not as we know it.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'Put your head between your legs!! Must. not. pun. No Meeks, you don't man bash at all. Hope I don't either?! That "Don't trust a man who..." thread was in jest, I swear!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    (Hands her a paper bag) I've been accused of the same. I think we give guys a rough deal. And yes, people treat you the way you let them!- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    So it makes sense that would show in responses to forum posts.Balanced view??? I prefer compromise. That can only be reached after all points of view have been discussed in an open environment where said point of view is understood.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I'm guilty. But sheesh, he deserved it. I try not to be judgemental but sometimes other people cross my line in the sand. Bite me if I speak out of turn.... (please)

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Mesmerised'Anyone have a paper bag? I had a meeting to day, poor guy did show up you can have the bag in a second when it gets dark enough to take off

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Just where would you like to be bitten?😛- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77'I love the smell of irony in the morningsOh dear wifey...Its the smell of ironing that you should be loving. Now where is my fresh shirt.x

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    12 years ago

    Just wish they took the time to read as well....🙈🙉🙊 three lil monkeys see no, hear no and speak no Evil..... And I guess if I was still 16 under 35yo men would be found hot and attractive.....😈 LMAO sry!!! (Walks away shaking head laughing contritely). Oh puhleease Lord forgive me my sins as I forgive those who sin against me ....... overrrr and overrrr again!! 😎 On Safari

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Rampant egos disguised as giving (often unsought) advice Ridicule and belittling of others Swinging dick fights among the blokes of the forums People who act like they make the forum rules Endless man-bashing by the women of the forums That old 'this is a sex site' nugget   Other than that, I'm not judgmental at all :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    This is a forum, an open forum. No one can speak for everyone, it is a debate and we all contribute equally. Every one can have a say and everyone is entitled to their opinions.Personal I stay well away from the subjects that I have to much emotional attachment to. Logical and balanced argument go out the window when emotions get in the way, and lord forbid if I end up looking like a twat. For the rest I like to stir the pot. If the sky is blue, well then for me the sky is no longer blue, its cyan, and I will continue till I am blue in the face, no cyan, or red....shit who cares. Why do I do this? Because its a debate and a debate needs opposing views, or should we all sit around talking about the lovely weather this winter brings us.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Oh Yes ! ... I could have several piercings in my tongue for all that I have been biting it lately.These days I prefer to sit back and laugh to myself with all the double standard, hypocritical, self effacing ,Womens Weekly style book club, singalong, wordgames that seem to be taking over the forums.Too may folks believing their own publicity....

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    too maNy folks believing their own publicity.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I totally agree Except for the Swinging Dick fight which is the Eternal Struggle between Good and Evil . A Struggle I must always fight until I prove Victorious . GG♒ CuddlePie ;)- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    This place wouldn't exist, and our lifestyle would come to a whimpering halt if it weren't for slightly eccentric, adventurous, outrageous non vanilla characters.What pisses me off ?Snipers; never post a topic just bite the heels of their same sex rivals whilst sucking up to the opposite sex.Hypocrites; Preach the rules according to them and then do the opposite.Nit pickers, Cant make a solid contribution so find fault in others.Man bashing used to really get my back up, it's even been taken up by the advertising industry with a range of adds pillaring men. I'm over it. I hear it's going to replace synchronised back patting at the next Olympics.Meh, time for a rum.

  • wingman2014

    wingman2014

    12 years ago

    I little woman bashing in the interest of balance . Save your venom It's sarcasm 💋- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You just made my day :) I was about to post again to say that after catching up on other threads I was reminded of something else that shits me - but I couldn't quite find the words to explain it. Something about sea gulling - watching from on high for a chance to show off, then swooping in and shitting on the OP. Lots of words when you summed it up in one - sniping! Well said :) So OP, I want to say I'm not judgmental, and I do genuinely strive to not be judgmental, but I don't always get there. I find the more peaceful I am in my own heart the less I judge others. Still working on it!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Finally someone responds with 'cuddle pie' :D

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    We are a happily married couple, in a swingers site. We pay for the privilege to use the site for our swinging activities. We enjoy the part when we entertain a new friend. That is What tickles Tara's fancy, in the meantime I enjoy the forums.What I continually see is a bunch of single, lonely people who think it is all OK with the NSA principle, to lie, cheat and hate the world.And why get married or risk love because the almighty woman says the men will fuck you over. I often feel humiliated as the man who is incapable of loving a woman.I will stand by my morals, otherwise I am being disrespectful to you all and my wife.Mado

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I am still plucking hairs out of the cat to weave you one

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Im a libran and I often feel like i see both sides to every storyI try to be objective. I suppose its when other people are going to get hurt that I, like my children just want to defend and protect.Quoting 'madotara69' We are a happily married couple, in a swingers site. We pay for the privilege to use the site for our swinging activities. We enjoy the part when we entertain a new friend. That is What tickles Tara's fancy, in the meantime I enjoy the forums.What I continually see is a bunch of single, lonely people who think it is all OK with the NSA principle, to lie, cheat and hate the world.And why get married or risk love because the almighty woman says the men will fuck you over. I often feel humiliated as the man who is incapable of loving a woman.I will stand by my morals, otherwise I am being disrespectful to you all and my wife.Mado Oh Mado this is so true of todays society or at least what I see here online why dare to love as it may hurt. Im trying to remember if I bashed a man lately...I found one once that need a good beating

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    what else does a single woman have to do with her time but to lie cheat and hate the world?...besides it's so much more interesting than being a saint,,and I have to do all three cos I am so bad at Monopoly

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Think Mado meant men are the liars or the cheats. I think? Or maybe all single people are liars and cheats? Not sure what the comment about a man not being able to love a woman means?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I think he is commenting on views expressed in the forums by both sexes, maybe the flavour of the views is more accurate. He may be commenting that a few of the recent forums have lamented generally on things like....men's inability to love a woman....men cheating....women cheating....lack of emotional involvement (both sexes).Of course I could be wrong!Sometimes it seems like the simple things end up being the most complex.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Yeah I agree that there is a lot of complaining about the other sex on the forum, wonder if that has always been the case throughout the ages? But I haven't seen anyone say a man can't love? Obviously that is what Mado has taken from the forum, interesting point I have never thought of it in that way.

  • Coops27M

    Coops27M

    12 years ago

    @Freya Do you choose the iron when you play monopoly ? :P *ducks*- Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    We are just here to share the love. We love you all. We will love some in a special way. That is what this is all about is it not?Or have we come to the wrong place. Who we love, there will be strings, as many as we can make, unfortunately not where those stings may make there way home to another unbeknown to us.That matters to us, enough to stand by it.Sometimes it is like we are sitting in a divorce tribunal and that just takes the fun out of things.Mado, Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    my post to Mado was meant to be light hearted...sheesh

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77' my post to Mado was meant to be light hearted...sheesh I just read your post and went looking for our scrabble game, I keep landing in jail when I play monopoly

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Will be expressed as I see fit. I don't care what people say about me, nor do I care if it's damaging to my "success" as it's other people's issues if they see an opinion as something other than it is. I can't please everyone.....nor will I sway to appease. Call me an opinionated pig, but isn't that the point of discussion?? To air ones views, and if someone adopts it, then all good. If I choose to adopt someone else's view, then that's all good as well. And...... I reserve the right to slap at will, just as much as they will slap me if I'm out of line. There's nothing personal about it, but what you make of it. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Snipers and the sheep.... Just following the crowd.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    the whole point is to be opinionated, not jsut to make endless 'LOL DO YOUSE LIKE 69ING LOL' "poll-based" posts which are just fucking juvenile and boring.get on the forum, have a bash, expect to be bashed back. No one should mind being attacked, as long as it is allowed to go both ways. after all, its just a forum.My gripe is to actually, have a relevant opinion to the topic at hand, not just try to say something one might think will impress the girls with ones sensitivity and faux-worldliness.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67'Personal I stay well away from the subjects that I have to much emotional attachment to. Logical and balanced argument go out the window when emotions get in the way. I'd agree that statement is good advice normally. However most of the topics hashed out on here are emotional in nature and not binary so there isn't really a correct answer ... I quite enjoy reading the odd emotional outburst as it gives a deeper insight to the person - of course I simultaneously try to avoid contributing any ? If people were not afraid to express their genuine beliefs in a public forum for the multitude of reasons we do - we would all get a lot further a lot faster IMO?As to the OP's questionEvery choice each person makes is based on a judgement. When you choose A over B you are passing judgement that A serves your self interest better than B .. there is nothing inherently wrong with judging - in fact it is necessary to function. When your judgements are informed or based on accurate information and experience you do well and visa-versa.The ability to entertain alternative viewpoints without necessarily accepting them (Aristotle) is what is required by all participants to facilitate and maintain healthy debate. The last thing we want is everybody having the same opinion? Debating the message is always OK however vigorously - attacking the messenger is an instant acknowledgement of defeat.I'll quote the Iron Lady in reference to holding a "Balanced View" which is just another way of saying a "Consensus View" .. "Balance" being subjective and determined by the majority."Consensus is the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values, and policies in search of something in which no one believes, but to which no one objects.”The only purpose I see striving to hold a "Balanced View" serves is to maintain conformity with the majority. It is self-defeating to the process of discovery while at the same time self-reinforcing to the "consensus view" becoming stagnate.I like reading impassioned viewpoints justified with faithfully related experience, logical argument or any other relevant material ... it is how we learn and decipher the truth. All I can promise is to give is what I have - balance is the net outcome not the other way around.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    when you actually look at how many people are supposedly online, the voices in the forum are only a very small percentage.At one stage, I was quite a prolific poster,both comments and as op....the past few months, I havent really felt the urge to make my thoughts public.I have discovered, I am an equal opportunity commenter (dislike the term "bashing").My comments, whether good, bad or ugly are not determined by the sex of the op.I will be forthcoming when I see blatant bunny boilers with many fake profiles who appear to delight in ruining genuine folks lives. This has bought me much critisism in the past, until many others realised they had been tricked and duped.Is that being judgemental?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I like that everyone can say whatever they think.. What shits me is when people have an opinion and give advise, but instead of clearly staying it's simply there opinion, they say it in a way as if they represent everyone else. That's one of the points I made in my fish bowl topic.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I should have phrased that along the lines of men's inability to express love or intimacy. My thoughts only. A few of the recent forums have struck me as having those kinds of themes. It may just be my interpretation though

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I do not have a balanced view on Meekas bum..... And speaking of bums, I don't have a balanced view on some of the arse-kissers on here, the metaphoric ones I speak of, the real arse-kissers get my thumbs up!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    apparently I am the ironing lady,does that count?

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Using your judgement to make a decision is NOT the same as being judgemental. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    I have always tried to be completely faithful to seeing all sides of a story. I try to never jump in quickly - there is usually more to a story than what you find out in the first few moments of hearing about it. Patience is the key to try and ensure you gather all the facts before jumping headlong into a situation you can't retrieve. Maintaining a 'balanced view' on here I do not find too difficult. The only real difficulty I find on this site are a few people who constantly have to "see their name in lights" for fear of being forgotten by the masses - in particular a few of the guys who seemingly have to have an "opinion" on every bloody forum issue, and who think theirs is the only valid viewpoints (which they will quickly deny). I personally refer them in my mind as the inspiration for "Dumb and Dumber".

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    We like to attack the married man OP who has never posted before,for being here seeking sexAnd yet many regular posters are here for the similar reasons and the same people not only do not attack them, but are openly friendly towards themOlder women frequently post about their much younger lovers,sometimes thirty years younger,we applaud them and yet when a man of a similar age posts about his much younger female lovers,he is treated as a pariah.Why do we treat the genders differently when the issues are the same or similar?Is ''man bashing'' just women expressing their dissatisfaction with how they have been treated by a particular man and giving an example or misandry,and can we separate the two?If men complain about how they have been treated by a particular woman would we see that as ''women bashing''?Do we ever give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask for clarification or are we like the proverbial seagulls on a chip,we just can't wait to peck them?And if we did change our behaviors,become more reasoned and rationale would the forums just become snoring boring?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Love your work!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Kaleidoscope' Using your judgement to make a decision is NOT the same as being judgemental. - Posted from rhpmobile In the literal sense it is obviously the same. When we say someone is being "judgmental" the term is being used euphemistically. What is being implied is that they have assumed their position to be superior in an absolute sense and they are inferring that those with a different view are wrong, lesser, inferior etc... To which some old guy with a funny haircut retorted"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics."Great thought provoking post

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77' apparently I am the ironing lady,does that count?

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77'We like to attack the married man OP who has never posted before,for being here seeking sex And yet many regular posters are here for the similar reasons and the same people not only do not attack them, but are openly friendly towards them Older women frequently post about their much younger lovers,sometimes thirty years younger,we applaud them and yet when a man of a similar age posts about his much younger female lovers,he is treated as a pariah. Why do we treat the genders differently when the issues are the same or similar? Is ''man bashing'' just women expressing their dissatisfaction with how they have been treated by a particular man and giving an example or misandry,and can we separate the two? If men complain about how they have been treated by a particular woman would we see that as ''women bashing''? Do we ever give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask for clarification or are we like the proverbial seagulls on a chip,we just can't wait to peck them? And if we did change our behaviors,become more reasoned and rationale would the forums just become snoring boring? C'est la vie ! Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    There are absolutely double standards.   I wonder if it's because women are clearly in the majority on this site?   Do we determine the social norm? the culture in this environment?   As to whether it's misandry or just an individual bagging another.....only when it's a consistent theme with that individual would you know.   Are the forums in general Misandrist? Yes, i think they are.   In my opinion, the forums are not the place to bag individuals, even if they remain nameless. (my own judgemental attitude has me make a mental note to stear clear of those that do) I wonder if those individuals ever look to their own interactions in those circumstances, there are always two people involved, each contributing. Some don't want to acknowledge or own that.   Would the forums become boring if we withheld our judgement? There might be an element of that, and almost certainly those that come here seeking that kind of drama would drop away. What would be remain is an interesting thought......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    The fights, the strong debates, the love/hate relationships, the nutters, the weirdos, etc are what make the forum more fun and interesting. Otherwise it would just be the same rehashed questions over and over. Hey... Does your cock look big in my bum questions. You know! 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    God.... Im almost inclined to agree with Innerwest (on part, not all) his comment. lolThe weak (and meek) shall not inherit the earth.Didn't you watch The Life Of BrianAnd blessed are the cheesemakers.The world belongs to the Bold..... and the beautiful gravitate to them. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' God.... Im almost inclined to agree with Innerwest (on part, not all) his comment. lolThe weak (and meek) shall not inherit the earth.Didn't you watch The Life Of BrianAnd blessed are the cheesemakers.The world belongs to the Bold..... and the beautiful gravitate to them. DG ---youd actually agree with me on most - to vast majority - of what i say, believe me - you just read WAY too much into forum posts and think way too much of how long i spend on my answers!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Yep but I ditched the blonde wig some time ago,however I do a brilliant impression of Maggie aping Lizzzie

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' youd actually agree with me on most - to vast majority - of what i say, believe me - you just read WAY too much into forum posts and think way too much of how long i spend on my answers! You're welcome.