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To swing or to socialise..that is the question?
August 01 2009
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jandv
16 years ago
People should wear "something" in public so you know they are swingers, that way you could pick up when your out and about. Ahhhhhhh, In a perfect world LOL I agree, last time we went to a party we noticed this. Ohwell.....
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RHP User
16 years ago
Great idea guys on the wrist bands... its was suggested to us by another couple we met this year. We all suggested perhaps different colors depending what your looking for. Those rubber wrist bands would probably work best as they can be reused and worn in the spas/pools etc.Grav n Leelee xxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
hi, its the female half of the couple and i do know exactly what you mean that the the socialising aspect at swingers clubs is quite prominent. we are regulars at an inner city sydney swingers club mainly because we like the social aspect of it as much as we like the sex! but we always go there with the intention of playing and we always do! always! but we do notice that some nights especially the party nights when there are large numbers of people there it can be very social and we've known some couples who came to play but became so caught up with chatting etc that they've missed out on playing! we always pick out couples we like, chat and connect and then ask them to join us in a room - it always works for us. thats why we dont go to the parties held by swinger groups in night clubs as we dont see the point in chatting and danCIng till 3am then looking for a hotel room with whoever we've hooked up with. we like the clubs as we want to play and we want to be naked and horizontal with someone by 11pm!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hey... Ive got an idea... you could wear different coloured bandanas... oh wait... that sounds gay doesn't it. HUgs GAz
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RHP User
16 years ago
Totally right and something has to change or people will stop attending the clubs. People dont want to have to pay to have a chat, we attend the clubs and parties to get down and have so good sex and make new friends to play with now and in the future. So yeah,,,get it sorted and keep the clubs and parties for those who are serious and not just perves Cheers and thanks for bringing this up
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well Donna_Brett...we have gone to swingers clubs, and I also did when single, and it was not to play..... I dont see the problem... I have alot of friends that are swingers, so when we go out, we go to the clubs... I go to them to socialise, not to play .. same with MR.....each to their own... if it was wrong to go and not play... then we wouldnt be allowed in...Mrs....
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RHP User
16 years ago
Good call Citysex, always fun playing with you guys.WACOUNTRY good reply from you guys ,and agree totally with you.Always nice to mix both things up.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Who said you have to go to a swingers club to play.This is why people shy from a lot of clubs, because they think that they are meat markets for naked romps in the open.Some dont attract new patrons because of the stereo type that has been placed on the swinging scene.Re: get down to your underwear at 10.30pm....( WHERE ARE OUR CHOICES GONE WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT)Swingers clubs have come a long way over the last few years, and target the main stream public, there is no need to force people to prove that they want to play when they attend a club.If ladies want to have a dance on the poles, walk around topless and get down and dirty on the lounge with their partners, who is anyone to say that is not enough because they are at a swingers club.Swingers clubs are about choice and choice is what we all have.After all, they may have full intentions of playing but find nothing there that attracts their eye.Lets get rid of the old fashioned " they should fuck if they come here" and let adults be themselves in a safe and secure environment without feeling like they have to do stuff just so Joe blo can watch......Swinging is about You as a couple or you as a single and no one else, i know a lot of swingers that don't actually swap.There are so many forms of swinging now days.........we are not in the 70's anymore...Thank god for change.......
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RHP User
16 years ago
Wow how about that idea going to a swingers club to swing !!! Yep agree with couplesint, looooots of different ways to look at the lifestyle these days. We have thou noted all the "cool kids" coming to swingers clubs of late ...... I mean who doesnt love an "air kiss" !!!! Its becoming very cool it appears to go to a swingers club ! QUESTION ? does that mean that some of that coolness will rub off on us!!! Here's hoping.............. ! Interestingly we ring ahead to the "host with the most " and she lets us know if its a big night or not ...... if we here there are 50 couples!!! we generally think ok lets stay home ......... tooo many cool kids..........perhaps we are just scared of being cool! We really are summer people. Oh and we love the idea of the bandanas...... however Gaz how about you also wear a parrot if your Bi!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Going to a swingers club to socialise???OMG....what will be next.....fucking in the toilets at nightclubs????God forbid!Sheesh.....different strokes for different folks....You ever gone out fully intending to play and havent for whatever reason???Ever gone out not intending to do anything and had the best night ever??Lighten up....stop putting so many regulations on having fun.and really....if you're busy noticing all the people NOT swinging....ya cant be having that much fun can you???Just my opinion....BJxxx
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2more4fun
16 years ago
At first I thought... well why not go to a swingers club to socialise but I have been to enough private parties to see that if more people socialise, less people play. And for a club, becoming known as a social venue is probably going to be it's death knell.I think most clubs should have a rule (similar to one that the amazing club Fun4Two in the Netherlands has). You should be allowed to socialise in normal clothes until a certain time (say 10pm), and once the bells rings, you have to change into lingerie/sexy gear and start mingling with view to play. Then socialisers can leave and take the chit chat back to their place and let the players play. We've set up private parties similarly and that way, everyone gets something out of it :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
As I previously stated, I go to clubs.. and wether i want to play or not is totally my business.... like was mentioned in another post.... with out us 'socialising' people it might seem sleazy... you dont want to socialise, then dont... but i will continiue to attend the clubs and socialise.. catch up with my friends who may or may not be swingers....Mrs
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2more4fun
16 years ago
What I am suggesting (and it's not really going to be an issue with Perth and its small handful of clubs who value patrons regardless of what they do there), is that swingers clubs can be in danger of failing if they are known to routinely have nights where people just sit around and chat. If you are going to a swingers club, I think it's a reasonable expectation to meet other swingers there. If I go to a Chinese restaurant, I can live with a small sub-section on the menu for 'other' cusine but I'd expect most of the dishes to be Chinese...The clubs over east (and overseas) have actually got to be mindful of strong competition and provide a venue where people can reasonably expect to be in a room full of players. I don't see the rule I mentioned before ever being enforced by WA clubs or clearly they'll lose customers such as yourself. And that's fine. It's how things are over here.It's great that a club lets you enjoy your night however you wish but I do sympathise with people who go to the trouble of getting a sitter, paying whatever door fee a club charges only to find they're going to have to get their Chinese food elsewhere or home delivered lol
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RHP User
16 years ago
we still pay the entry fees.. we still have to get a sitter..... clubs, just like RHP is not a guarantee of sex.....
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2more4fun
16 years ago
But you'd like to think that your likelihood of meeting other active swingers at clubs or on RHP is just that bit higher than say at a knitting circle LOLThen again, stranger things have happened...
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
To clarify something..we are not saying people should be made to strip off when you walk in the door or get naked & start screwing at a certain stroke of the clock..that's too over the top & even intimidating for some seasoned swingers. A party atmosphere is obviously good but at the end of the day it is promoted as a "Swingers Club"...and one would expect that means "swinging" in a sexual sense happens there. Yes it is different folks for different folks..everyone has different desires, fantasies, tastes, likes & dislikes that's not the issue and as all clubs advertise, everyone has the right to say no. Not a problem with that as that's how it should be. Granted, even though we go there with full intentions of playing, it's not going to happen unless we actually meet someone compatible, that's the way it goes. However the point being made was that more & more people who JUST WANT to socialise are attending which makes it difficult for genuine swingers who are wanting to meet playmates and not just drink & dance & chat til all hours to decide who to approach or not approach. As "Gravnleelee65" above suggested ..what is wrong with rubber coloured wristbands. They are discreet and practical. Maybe a different colour for say Players, newbies & socialisers. It's unlikely players would object, probably new people would welcome it cos often it can be daunting for them so it lets others know to take baby steps with them. Then the socialisers can all stick together and at least let others know that they aren't looking for sex and genuine swingers can make decisions on who to approach without finding out after an hour of more of chat that their new friend is just a dancing fan. That's not being unreasonable it's just practical! One more thing..if certain clubs want to or are happy to encourage a greater number of socialisers, then those clubs should be promoted maybe as "Adult Clubs" and not "Swingers Clubs".
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RHP User
16 years ago
Donna_BrettSwingers Clubs To be Swingers Clubs legally in Queensland are in fact classified as "Adult Venue ( nighclub) that is the classification that they must have.By Council application and approval.This doesnt not mean people don't have sex at these clubs or we would certainly not need a cleaner..lolchanging of sheets on a nightly basis is around 25 -30 sets, that to me and our patrons tells us that people are in fact swinging at Adult venues.But you must understand surely , that it is not all about SEX, and people can simply use a club to meet other like minded adults and then choose where they play, be it at the club or at their own place of CHOICE!So can i suggest you use your skills and talk and communicate to others when you are at a venue and find out who is playing and who is not, that is what the lifestyle is about. Communication !!!!Club owners work very hard long hours to give patrons alternatives, and as we said before we are now in the 2000" not the 70's, and the numbers at the club and patrons through the door, tell the tale on what people want now days in the lifestyle.Can we suggest if you want sex full on where you go, maybe hold your own house party and invite those that you know will play with you and that should save all the hassles you feel you face in the scene.Couples International
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RHP User
16 years ago
I can see what the "players" are talking about and also see it from the "socialisers" point of view.I would ideally like to play and socialise and as a couple have already said the wristband idea sounds really good.For someone like me (who can be shy at times) it would make things so much easier if we know which ones are there for the playing as well as the socialising. I can be shy in approaching people as it is, but if I were to go to a club where most were just there to socialise, I probably wouldn't approach anyone at all just to hear "Sorry, we're only here to chat" over and over.I am not in anyway saying socialisers shouldn't be able to go just like everyone else, each to their own... but a way to make the players known would be great.
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RHP User
16 years ago
If what you are trying to say is that you don't like the idea of people going to swingers clubs that never have the intention of swinging, then I can understand your frustration. More times than not when I go to swingers clubs I don't have sex. I'm picky and fussy about the right atmosphere and I have to be in the right frame of mind. The thing I like about swingers clubs is that I never have to worry about some drunk tough guy picking a fight with me cos I'm looking at his wife. Most people are pretty friendly and accepting and it's just a total change of pace for me. I like to get to know people first and it's rare that I have sex on first meeting. Awww I'm such a romantic! LOL! The idea of wrist bands is all well and good.. until it creates a bit of caste system. And as much as everyone is there to 'help' the newbies I'm sure it often comes across as hunting the new blood. Sometimes it's best not to have everyone in the place know that you are new. If I ever felt forced to have sex at a club then I'd never go again. And that's from a guy! I can't even imagine how a woman would feel in that situation, but I'm sure she wouldn't be going back either. Mat. A guy who goes to meet cool people and have fun. If more happens - great!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well my wife and I find ourselves visiting swingers club all around Australia on quite a frequent basis. I must say, the general trend of people actually attending a swingers club to play is on the slide despite them being designed purposely for an action packed agenda(us being regular Perpetrators’), i'm not supposing this is a bad thing because what this is achieving in large, is an environment were new & curious people can come together under a sexy and liberated banner to find their way amongst what can often be branded as a old and less appealing lifestyle only made famous by those sex starved maniacs of the post war generation. The reality is we are a young, intelligent generation of people enjoying thi lifestyle and swingers clubs offer the chance for newbies to witness this and become comfortable with their new found lifestyle choices! Our reasoning behind this growing trend and feel free to comment otherwise; but if i was a new lifestyle couple or swingle just feeling my way around RHP or any other adult forum for that matter with an agenda of this kind, typically if i was looking for places to go and to take the next step out into the awesome world of the alternative sex scene i would find myself exposed to guess what? you guessed it - "Swingers Clubs". RHP and many of the other global swingers forums tend to expose "swingers clubs" more often due to the frequency in which they hold events and regular party nights. However there is relief for the enthusiastic folk among us in this lifestyle because we have noticed there has been a very sharp rise in the number of "private" parties on the scene (less numbers, more compatibility) which tends to pick up where these clubs might be dropping off. Once couples & or swingles have felt their way around these clubs(and alot of which WILL play at clubs) they do find themelves "in the loop" and comfortable enough then to take themselves off into these smaller and more private party settings. Until this natural process occurs, it's only then will these couples feel comfortable and not confronted by attending parties that "require you to shed your clothing at a designated time" or "players only to attend" etc etc ..... I think the overall awareness of our lifestyle in the larger community has been a positive thing in recent times, people we never anticipated would ever suggest such a thing are making random approaches on us, which tells us LG - life is good! Keep up the good work RHP, "Sex in Numbers" in Australia has become a much more widely enjoyed lifestyle ..... keep up the good work "SWINGERS CLUBS" S1 & S2
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
Sorry guys but you are missing the point of the original question & the comments by us & others on this topic. YES we do talk to people but don't want to have to come out with a blunt statement like...."So are you here for sex or what ?" because we think you would agree that is kind of tacky. Why is it up to the real players to have to try & sort the swingers from the socialisers? Why don't the non players make it obvious that that's what they are? Why should players have to ask the question ? Why don't the social set say as soon as someone approaches " Hey nice to meet you but just letting you know we aren't here to play" or words to that effect? Then people know & can decide if it's worth their while taking it further..and some players including us would probably still be happy to chat a while and make a new friend but at least they know the deal. The problem we have found is in general (granted, probably not all) the socialisers don't seem to be forthcoming with their intentions until someone asks them if they'd like to play? Then they drop the bombshell as mrsfordy pointed out "Sorry, we don't play" or whatever line they use. If people don't want to play but still want to hang out in a sexually charged venue..fine go for it but be honest & upfront with people who are obviously there for sex play..don't lead people on! It's not rocket science..it's simply being polite & honest!And yes we do host & go to lots of private parties but sometimes we like clubs too..it's about variety. Obviously clubs are not going to discourage socialisers cos it's dollars in the piggy bank...but can't blame them for that..it is business!
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2more4fun
16 years ago
By my suggestion in an earlier post, I am by no means saying that people who attend a club HAVE to have sex once a certain time has come. It would just be beneficial to all concerned if a club could designate a time or area for people who would like to play IF someone took their fancy. Wristbands are not a bad idea but I personally don't want a two-step process (ie - 1. check band 2. then check if they are interested). Kinda takes away from the flirty looks across the room lolIn an ideal world, I would love it if we could have a larger variety of clubs that cater to different tastes. I can't fault the wonderful work done at CI in Brisbane and if anything, I think CI has the most balanced approach in Australia as a swingers club. Everyone is welcome to socialise but as they mentioned, the beds aren't just there to look at. They also have a fantastic crowd attending regularly tho to maintain that nice balance of socialisers/players.Don't get me wrong, I love a good chat first before getting it on but as any reasonably experienced and active player would agree, it would be nice to enter a room and know everyone is on the same page as you. Again, something we're more likely to be able to control at a private party but as Donna_Brett said, would be cool to go to a venue like that.
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RHP User
16 years ago
To be honest when Sal and I go to the club we want to play, we don't spend $50 a pop to have a drink and people watch. However if we don't play it's because we haven't found anyone we want to play with that night, no expectations no disappointments. Usually, to make it worth our while, we will arrange to meet a couple (thanks RHP) and play with them, then anything after that is the bonus prize. I think if someone tells you they 'aren’t playing tonight or they are just there to be social’ is a polite translation to 'we just aren’t into you!' a non offensive way of saying ‘thanks, but no thanks.’ And hey we are sexy, funny and cool and we’ve had that brush off now and again! Actually, we like rather a lot of the ladies we meet, but their partners let down the team. Mostly in the looks department but the worst type are the guys that are so used to the ladies running the show that they just sit there in silence, looking bored and offering nothing to the conversation, until it’s show time. We met a couple last weekend and we would have played if it wasn’t for his lack of attention towards Sal, his wife was hot to trot but he, he could have just been reading the paper and saying ‘yes dear’ every now and again. I love the fact that the swingy scene is ‘female rules’ but guys come on, give a little bit of effort, you might actually get laid if you smile once or twice and offer a few individual thoughts! The question should be where do you find the attractive funny, couples that both have a personality in this town? The amount of times we have been approached by hairy biker types with nipple length beards (and that's just the women) to ask us 'if we want to play' is amazing. Who goes to a $50 club not to play... if you want to spend a Friday/Saturday night not having sex just stay home and invite you straight friends over for a game of Singstar! You’ll save a fortune and not have to use up you condom stash. But don’t stay home if you’re hot, funny and have a personality ... we’ll meet you in the porno room downstairs at C.I tonight or tomorrow :P
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hey I have no qualms about wearing a wristband to show I'm in. Some sort of way to tell might save embarassing a newbie or other (- yes Donna_Brett, I confess - I have resorted to tacky once or twice - lol). But having said all that, attendees who might have been unsure at first have the right to change their minds and participate just as much as anyone there to play has the right to say "no". My experiences have included some great play, some great socialising, some great conversations and so on. I've enjoyed the variety in the experiences. I take your opening point and note its validity as an observation of behaviours at different places or times. As for the 'cool' set, they'd probably ,mess with us anyway once it becomes cool to wear one wristband or another. In the end we're all people and we'll play according to our comfort and intent.
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RHP User
16 years ago
RE: Who goes to a $50 club not to play... if you want to spend a Friday/Saturday night not having sex just stay home and invite you straight friends over for a game of Singstar! If I want to pay to get in and not have sex.. thats up to me.... I DONT want to stay at home and play singstar.... I want to hang with my friends... I have alot of friends that swing or play, so to hang out with them, I go to the clubs....Its like saying to someone who doesnt drink.. well dont go to the pub with ya mates...... If it was all for playing, it would be a brothel..... cos it would mean you were paying for sex!no matter the club, wether it be an adult or night club you still pay.... and no matter where, if you have a decent conversation with ppl... you would know if they are there to shag or not..and to being upfront about not playing, we always are, we dont pretend to be swingers to fit in.. we like i said, hang with our friends!Mrs wacountry
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
Well wacountry..you're a rare one. As in you are upfront with people from the get go. Good on you! Unfortunately not all "muggles" have the same attitude as you. Cheers
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RHP User
16 years ago
Yet again...it seems that some supposedly liberated people want to put restrictions and conditions on a lifestyle.Surely we are all grown up enough that we can go to a swingers club....with likeminded patrons.....and feel comfortable enough to ask if someone wanted to play....and have the ability to say yes or no in a respectful manner.I find the easiest way to approach someone is to say hi....chat a bit....then tell them they have lovely lips and that I wondered what they taste like. You will know pretty quickly then if they want to play with you or not!!!Just my opinion....BJxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
Not that we are here to advertise. We like to think that people at all stages of sexual adventure can come. Some like to watch. Some like to meet other like minded people. Some are new some are experienced. Young, old and in between. Some like to play with other some do n't>Sometimes we feel like playing and sometimes we don't. Sometimes we just like to meet people - just because we like meeting people. Swingers clubs and groups are as much about building a different social circle as they are about active sex. Each to their own we say. If anyone is looking for some fun tonight in Hobart we are horny and home alone. Come get us. Tassieswingers will find the Tassie swingers group. Best wishes Rog n Louise xxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
We at CI tried wrist bands on numerous occassions and it was just so funny...peeps swapped and confused everyone...and it was really a total waste of time.Communication is the key! nothing more..so get out there talk to others and enjoy the lifestyle for what it is. "about communication and understanding, with the opportunity to have sex IF YOU CHOOSE>You just might put on a wrist band, and then have to take it off later in the night when you get sick of saying No thanks...lol.We are and have been thinking of a smorgasboard to put up.Where you walk up to someone or a couple and just say a number and see if they say Yes or No.1. Meat lovers; Would you like to eat me out ...2. Hamburger: Would you like to suck my dick....lol3. Taco: Would you like to lick my pussy.4: Salad: Would you like to soft sway ( same room sex )5: The works burger: Would you like to full swap in an open room.6: Chips and Gravy: Would you like to come on my face....pmsl and many more...we are truly and really thinking about this. what are your thoughts.Couples International
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RHP User
16 years ago
It's just common sense that you'd use the same approach picking up someone in a swingers club as you would in a night club or any other place. I do know some guys that have said 'So do you want sex or what?' in both night clubs and swingers clubs. I've even seen it work! LOL! I'm sure you don't mean it to come across this way Donna_Brett but it appears you want to be able to walk up, do a mating call and then go to a room with a couple. At least half of what I found attractive about people is their personality. If they can't hold a decent conversation then it's difficult to hold my interest. Some people just seem to think that being hot and wanting sex is enough. There are plenty of people out there like that, I want someone that I can connect with.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I dont understand the fuss. If people go to a swingers club and only socialise, the swingers will eventually move to another club and the socailisers can stay at the socialisers club? Maybe another option is the club hold nights were some of the fore mentioned rules are in play and other nights its socalising orientated night? The club I have started attending on the Gold Coast holds a Bi night and its a blast, why can't it be the same for those that like to go to the clubs but are not into playing, just make it a designated night. Anyway, neither side of the debate are right or wrong, the club owners are the people that get to make the choice, if they make the wrong one then they will loose patrons and if they don't then it will be a swinging club :-)) Cheers Shane
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
No Blaphemer76..that is not what we're saying..oh good grief. Sorry we put the original question up..well in what ever language we wrote it anyway?? Cos it must not have been English...as it seems a lot of people couldn't read it clearly??? : )Next subject please!! Over & out!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Donna_Brett i am sure we all understood what you are saying"It seems to us that there are more & more people going to swinger's clubs just to socialise and not actually to swing. Other swinger friends have been noticing this trend as well. Is it a case of people wanting to be able to shock their regular 'muggles' friends by boasting that they hang out at these places but in reality aren't interested in swinging at all?It makes it kind of difficult when you go into a club with a large crowd and not only do you have the task of finding possible & suitable playmates but you have to sort through the show ponies as well. Maybe clubs need to introduce wrist bands or something for those people who don't intend to play? " end quote.You said there are people going to swingers club that dont actually swing. OMG how dare they..pmsl.You say the trend is getting more and more.....well that just means the crowds are getting bigger and ibigger and the opportunity to experience the lifestyle is seen as something not trashy anymore.You see these people will prob start soft and then make their own choices as to what suits them as a couple after a short time of watching and learning on the scene.Well that is the truth. and that is their option or choice.You say that they go there for the purpose of shocking their friends as they go to a swingers club.Well i cant imagine that is true at all, they simply feel safe and secure and dont get all the crap and bullshit that they encounter at the nightclubs etc, they can feel comfortable and able to be themselves in a safe environment and not have to worry about someone else touching their partner whilst dancing etc, as clubs have strict rules on touching. And they just might get to spice up their sexual appetite for each other from some of the things they might see whilst on venue.And you are calling those people "showponies" just because they choose not to indulge in sexual activities with others, and simply want to come to a venue, have a drink, dance on a pole to make their partners horny, and then maybe have a little foreplay in a quiet area alone. That to me seems like they are a couple that enjoy eachothers company and like the atmosphere of a social crowd as much as a sexually active crowd. Good on them!. I am proud to be one of those people and Own a swingers club, as I don't play.You seem to want it to be easy to find playmates, and not have to do the hard yards and talk and chat to them. You seem to want them to be easily recognized and willing to play with you when you want them to.Year is 2009.....the choices are ours.....and we are all lucky we have somewhere to experience them....safe and secure.Hope that sorted that..now people keep up..pmsl
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
OH PUL..EASE!!!! .... it was a simple observation ..one that many people have also made to us in conversation. We cannot believe how many ways the original question was twisted & obscure things read into it? But yes we get it....in a nutshell running a club is all about making $$$$$$$$ ...fair enough!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm sure you didn't intend it the way it is being read, but it seems that quite a few people are taking it that way. Don't be sorry that you put the topic up, it's allowed plenty of discussion, which is what this scene really needs. BTW - what is a muggle? *clueless*
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RHP User
16 years ago
it to me is the way to find a proper partner but i need a woman to get in im 6ft bald fit and in good shape own place and single part time student at 45 i now the drection in which i want to go i,m startingto look and advertise and am willing to take time but i need a woman to move in on this form of life style and D/D free
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hey Donna_Brett - don't regret the topic - like you said, it's an observation that a lot of us have made. It's still been fun fleshing out the topic and discussing it - it's one of the few that I've come back to read several times. I agree with Blasphemy on that - except for querying "muggles", a read of Harry Potter might clarify that one - I thought the use of theterm here was an extra touch of fun.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Donna_Brett.We have no idea what you are going on about all the time about Club owners making so much money.You dont have to be too clever to know that Club owners dont make a lot of money and usually only make enough to scrap by to pay all the over heads.Cover charge through the door is the only money that they make.Dont think for a minute that any club owners are giving up their day jobs to soley live on the takings of a swingers club.The Government wont allow us to be liquor licensed, so you all bring your own alcohol and then get free soft drinks, and everything else is free on venue.Rent for a commercial premise is ( here ) is $8000 a month. Then there is staff wages, stock, power, phones, advertising, outgoings, and the rest. So it doesnt take a smart person to work out that there is little or no money in running a swingers club in Queensland.At $50 a couple and if you get say 40 couples a night ( which most club dont come close too ) that is $2000 through the door on the night.Do your sum, that is rent only.......So you can simply stop now at saying that we do it for the dollars $$$$$ when you have no idea...Club Owners work long tedious hours to give patrons an alternative lifestyle to enjoy, and at $25 each for a full night out with nothing else to pay, is to say the least rediculously cheap.For god sake a happy meal costs $10.00 nowdays..and not to mention the cost of a coffee...So please dont make comments about how club owners do it for money, because that is simply not the case.Couples International is run because we enjoy seeing the patrons have a good time.If we wanted to be rich we would open a licensed nightclub wtih no sex on venue as the government wont allow sex on premise and be licensed, and of course for US that is an option as we are the only approved Adult Nightclub (swingers club ) re: town planning in QLD.We simply choose to be a swingers club and not a nightclub that is licensed to give all our patrons an alternate lifestyle.Food for thought: Bryan says he would love to be charging $7.00 every time he opened a beer , how good would it be to charge for drinks, coffee, tea, ......but that is not what we do and how we are allowed to operate in Qld.At 58 he would love to give up his day job....hmmmm
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RHP User
16 years ago
Swingers Clubs and Groups are becoming wonderful places to be both in Australia and Internationally. We try our very best to make our parties non confronting, no pressure, comfortable but exciting places to be. Everyone is different and should be treated that way. Curious people, people to meet other people, people to have sex with other people, people who like to watch other people having sex, people who like to just have sex with each other at a party as a fantasy for them, people who just want to SOCIALISE with other people and many other motivators. The reason we get people together is so that they CAN meet other people face to face in a discreet and safe way. They can talk to others about sexual fantasies or sexual experiences that they can't talk about with their family and "normal" friends. They can just meet new people, they can ask people for sex (or not). Friendship, Kindness, Understanding and Respect are the only things that we ask of people coming to our parties. We are very lucky to have the gift of enjoyment of sex but swingers parties and clubs are (should be) about people not about sex. They are an environment where sex is allowed and legal but not expected. They are an opportunity. We are very grateful that good people are running many of the swingers clubs and groups in Australia now. We fully support couplesint's opinions. Best wishes to all and if you are in Tassie look us up. Tassieswingers xxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
On the original issue of being able to identify who is there for sex and who isn't - it is a valid point but is not achievable or reasonable. To do so would cause an expectation for many people that they did not want. It is too simplistic to say that you are there for sex or not. There are all sorts of things in between the two which are to do with meeting the right people, feeling right on the night, feeling comfortable, feeling horny - the list goes on and on. No easy answer that looks after all people's views. The best way to find out if people are interested is to talk to them. Perhaps an "I'm Hot for Sex" wristband and an "I'm Not" and everyone without wristbands is something in between. If you come up with something that works CI please let us know. tassieswingers xxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
ok ... I'm a swing club virgin and have read all of the above posts.... I realy find it all interesting I have been seriously thinking about heading to a swing club..... BUT if I went to a swing club and was expected by other patrons to play there would be no way on earth I would ever go back... What happened to good old chatting people up !!!!! you may even use ur sexyness to have a so called *socialiser* want to play with you...... But i certainly am not gonna sit on the lounge like a nigel and not socialise...nor do i want to go home at 10pm...... How does one know that they are there to socialise or not maybe its their was of saying they dont want to play with you. And if u think that having this business if about $$$$$$ your right.... why would any businessman/woman have a business if their not going to make money from it come on...... I can also imagine you have no idea how much of that money is spent in the club trying to promote it, improve it to keep all patrons coming back ect... sorry but that comment was plain stupid. I have read the stories about how hard it is for a business of this manner to even open their doors so owners should be commended and not ridiculed for making money.
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RHP User
16 years ago
My Partner (The Andy of sal Andy put up our last post, now it is my turn, If we go to a swingers club it is because we would like to play. That does not mean we do. We have had more nights where we don't, simply because we have not found the right person or people. One of our best nights there we did not play at all, we decided to try something new and socialise individually rather than glued to each others hips. We had a blast and made great friends with like minded people. If I was ever under any pressure or expectation to play I would not play on principle (yes I am annoying like that :P )I really do think each to their own on this matter, I for one would not be keen on wearing a wristband...if I was wearing one that said not playing peole may not approach or be hard to approach because they can see straight away they will not score...or if i was wearing one saying I was playing I would feel a certain expectation to do so and see people getting agitated if they are turned down, it posses too many problems. A simple conversation and polite questioning is fine, surely we are not all that socially inept that we can't talk to other people, especially people that play, or are at very least curious at playing...I thought we were all more open minded than that. MrsSalAndy
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CoastFunSeekers
16 years ago
Donna_Brett whilst we can understand where you are coming from it also sounds to us that you think that everyone that attends an Adult or Swingers Club is obliged to shag their brains out with anyone that is there. We are very new to the Lifestyle and are Voyeurs and Exhibitionists, why should that exclude us from attending clubs like Couples International. We enjoy the sexually charged atmosphere that places like CI provide and happily tell anyone that asks what we are and are not into .... its called conversation... we agree totally with Leesa there is many form of swinging these days (both soft and hard) and it's each to their own otherwise we would all be driving the same make of car so to speak... we also have never had a complaint from the people that watch us upstairs in the open play area nor had a complaint from people that we watch. Anyway just wanted to put our point across and thanks Brian and Leesa for providing a great sensual and safe adult venue to play at. GoldyFunLovers
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
To some folk here..thanks for getting the "simple" point we were trying to make LOL Some of the theories in other responses about the original question leave us scratching our heads?? ..or maybe we're reading things that are not really there into those comments? Hmmm...that would be unusual in this forum!!! hahahahahaPS To Goldfunlovers.."NO" guys that is NOT what we are saying (ie: people obliged to shag their brains out), we never said that or anything like it? If you or others read that into the question, that is NOT what it means... hope that clears that bit up at least? Cheers all. : )
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
Oh..forgot..for you "know_boddy"..."Muggles" seems to have become the term for regular folk outside the swinging scene. No idea who came up with the connection between that & Harry Potter ?? Just hear it quite often now...just a fun term I suppose? LOL
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RHP User
16 years ago
Who in their right mind pays $50-$100 to get the same amount of action as at the Pub, and no band either! We reckon there are swingers and wannabe's....We like any other sane swingers happily accepts that if there is no attraction then no play, We also acknoledge that Clubs need bodies through the door for turnover, so basically if you have the money your in, Perhaps there is a market for different levels of clubs, but how you keep the trendies ( no real intention of playing) out of the hardcore joints is anyones guess.
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Letsgetloud
16 years ago
I would like to offer a perspective. All swingers at one time or another were newbies. The increased number of clubs and parties in recent years has meant that the lifestyle is becoming more popular. The more people that get a taste at these parties (there will always be a percentage of tyrekickers), the more people will be introduced to the lifestyle and the more new friends we will all have. We should welcome all newbies with open arms (legs?) as I'm sure their experiences with all of us will determine whether or not they stay in the scene. So socialise and flirt, put the hard word on them if you feel the chemistry is there... if you get knocked back, it doesn't matter... there could be a heap of reasons why. An option is to go "old school" and all wanting to play could put their keys in a bowl at the door ;) Thanks to Donna_Brett for posting the original topic. It certainly has generated some insightful comments.
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RHP User
16 years ago
It's a great topic. I can tell you we have been frustrated a little ove the past year or two by venues & parties being filled with lovely people who seem to come along regularly without ever intending to play although letting others think they do.I guess 'new' couples are in a different boat - obviously no-one has to play at a club and new couples should always take their time before deciding to leap in but we could list many couples we now have known for some years (from socialising only lol) who have never played and will never play but like to pretend a little and keep on going along to parties in effect 'teasing' others & misleading potential partners Everyone has the right to do what they wish but we side with 2more4fun (Hi Guys again :) .. it is a bit frustrating trying to sort out who is at a night for what reason - a simpler system to understand where people are at would be great whether that be times or wrist bands or whatever. This obviosuly still wouldnt guarantee anyone is interested in you as a couple but at least you would have a hint at where they are in the scene.We dont all have that many nights available at these sorts of events and clubs - anything to make hooking up more likely would be great and I daresay would take some pressure of genuine newbies who want to take their time.
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RHP User
16 years ago
To explain"muggles" in Harry Potter refers to non- magic folk ie not wizards and witches just normal people thus in the swinging scene the term has come to mean non-swingers. Great topic BTW
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2more4fun
16 years ago
Hello Lustbirds :) Hope you haven't been visiting Perth without saying hi! :P xLetsgetloud (more fine folk from the east :) ) made a valid point about newbies and for that reason, I agree that swingers venues need to be balanced so as to not freak people out. On the other hand, I don't want newbies to think that swinging is only a myth either lol "Oh we tried swinging but our jaws got sore... from talking all night" :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Thanks Donna-Brett and sexycountrycpl That stitches the link together nicely re muggles - now I'll have to use it some time - all adds to the fun.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Okies here we go,We love reading and seeing what people want in the lifestyle , and this a very interesting topic, and one that has been discussed before.So we think a club needs to have one night for FULL ON SWINGERS ONLY ....we will give it a go and let you all know how it is.But, we know that it will not work and the night will be a quiet one as not everyone wants to come to only play....So we will let you know how it goes and give you all the feedback you wish.We will call it a FUCK NIGHT..lol only those that want to play can attend....how about that...and see how we go.I bet no one turns up, as they will be scared they have to play if they dont want to.Let you all know. Keep your eye on the events section here on rhp for the night, i will do it in september.Just one question, do we let single guys in or not,it seems a lot of couples have issues with them too..lolCouples International.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well we posted it!..Hard core night for swingers only!!!.No watchers or socialisers, just those that intend on playing..Lets see how it goes.It is the First Friday in September, and it is clear on the posting what we expect so take the plunge if your game and come and play!!!.We will let some single guys in but using our usual routine to ensure only the best single guys from RHP are here at our venue.Couples and Singles that are swingers do want single guys sometimes.We will allow nudity walking around too....wow...we are breaking our own rules.But we want to make sure we give Australia what they want, so we will see how it goes and let you all know.If it works out good, we will do more...but your support is needed as we are putting ourselves out there and limiting the lifestyle on this night, so lets see how it goes.Bryan and I just may have to work harder that week through the week to make rent..in case.Couples International
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RHP User
16 years ago
We wouldn't visit without saying hi :) .. havent been over for ages'we tried swinging and our jaws got sore..' lmaoI agree with your last comment .. we have had newbies come up to us at a few nights now and ask if anyone ever actually had sex with others .. bit of a shame lol ..
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well posted up the night on RHP events...and the interest seems good so far!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I promise not to socialise too much!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I wouldnt attend the fuck party because sometimes I do just like to wach. But I think its a really good idea tho. Hope it goes well.
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RHP User
16 years ago
if we came, could we play with you leesa? ;)
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RHP User
16 years ago
How come nobody mentioned the food at these places? Whilst hovering on the perimeter and avoiding unwanted glances [or gropes], surely we deserve something better than sausage rolls and disgusting party pies?
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RHP User
16 years ago
Not sure if this is the answer,As a newby to all the scene, my wife and i went to a club thinking it would be good to meet people instead of looking at a screen.Had good intentions to meeting people but felt like we had just gate crashed an 18year old's party,We were told that the host's would look after us and make us feel comfortable as it was all new to us, we walked around had a look then sat on a sofa, sat for two hour's with people looking down on us as they new we were new and then we left to never return. I don't think having sex is the main point, socializing is as it gets people to meet one another and find suitable matches with whom you can keep in touch with and have positive outcomes. Meeting people starts with the host or the host's as they are the people who are holding this function and should have an idea of people who are attending on what they are wanting and not wanting, i know i know, i have heard it all befor to many people to remember. Well how about gold member, silver member, bronze member etc etc as they walk in the door. State what their intentions are as they sign into the book. Give them a choice as area's they can hang out, either the full swing room or the social room.Let people have a choice. And try and cater for the new people wanting to meet people, people tend to be shy sometimes.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi to all, have been reading your comments with great interest, very impressed with some of your opinions & happy to see club owners & operators who care enough to give ur opinions based on experience. Most annoying issues in the swinging scene, seem to arise from a lack of honesty! Party operators who started for all the (wrong reasons) thinking it was easy money lol lmaso.........Sorry but we run one of the most sucsessfull parties in melbourne THE most sucsessfull in terms of numbers per month. We realize that after running for nearly 4 years we will never recoup the cost of our outlay HONESTLY we love this scene we love the people We take the time to give the right advise unlike some others who lie about there venue, lie about there numbers, lie about there ratios!! AND MOST IMPORTANTLY lie about the party format. to get people in the DOOR. OR just dont care enough 2 advise newcomers TO look at starting out at a couples and females only party... unless you are both very sexually confident to attend a (players party) and you know what you want! Honesty from party patrons is equally important.. take the time to read up about the party you wish 2 attend, make sure its the right format for you.. this is of the utmost importance to enjoy ur first experience & could determine ur future in the scene guys get it right & think about ur wife/partners feelings u may only get one chance. wait for the right PARTY! STILETTOSPARTIES REGARDS RON & MARIE-ANNE xxxxxxxxx
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DonnaBrett
16 years ago
After all the 'flak' we copped about raising the above question...the club that tried to shoot us down most is now hosting a 'Fuck' night for "players only" apparently because of this very forum question? Sheeesh!!! LOL
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RHP User
16 years ago
We r swinging for 5 years and alway's done the homedating which we really liked as you know why u r going over to other people. We have been a few times to a club here and are indeed very dissapointed of the activity of the people around. We found also that a lot of people see it as a night out and just want to socialise and meet people. In our opinion there are better option then paying $60. People are alway's nice there but a good play or two will be welcome for us when we go to a club
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x2ForU
16 years ago
we love going to swinging clubs to play, whether we end up finding someone we like to play with is another question... mostly we do though and have a great time, everytime..... i have no problems with people going to clubs just to socialize... but for that reason , i wont play out in the open... prefer closed doors....feel creepy with the thought of others just going there to perve and to watch you have sex... and then there is the word so often used, LIKEMINDED!! if people only go to watch others, wheres the likemindedness in that??? something i dont understand... but hey, i dont understand alot of things...hahah , shelly xx
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RHP User
16 years ago
We completely agree with Donna_Brett - there does seem to be an abundance of people (especially younger people under the age of 25) going to swingers parties and clubs who are there to soak up the sexual energy and to have a look. We are not saying there is anything wrong with that - and neither were Donna_Brett! It DOES seem to be a bit popular and cool atm (using acronyms like atm is also cool atm btw) - especially amongst the younger set (we used to be those people!) At the last party we went to, there were HEAPS of gorgeous people who were extremely reluctant to remove their attire. They all seemed to know each other and were very social. Maybe sexual socialising - where you can swap partners for conversation without jealousy - is the new swinging! When we go to a party, the sooner we can get our gear off, have some fun, get home and have a nice cob ("cup of bonox" - I made that one up, cool people won't know what bonox is), the happier we are...
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RHP User
16 years ago
This has been a very interesting forum, and CI has responded well to it... have a night where players rule : it will work better than the coloured bracelets - although Leesa's smorgasboard idea is a hilarious one and we like it, lol So, for one night every now and then, players can be confident that they will be in the right ambience - still no guarantee of play, but at least the menu is right : chinese food at a chinese food restaurant :) Just out of interest wacountry : do the friends you meet at the club also go there just to socialise ? If so, is there a shortage of social meeting places around where you are ? PS. Noticed that Donna & Brett have not yet registered for CI's 'fuck night' - go on, we'd like to meet up with you;) Cheers, Tom & Michelle
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi all this subject certainly has got the attention of alot of people...lol. I think its up to the single or couple if they want to play. I have found that some people at these parties are quite intimadating (well for me anyway) and I choose not to play. But i would never criticise anybody for not playing everybody has their own reason for being there. I have found from my experience that if the party is full of lovely friendly people with no airs and graces then yes my partner and I will play otherwise we just watch. Once again each to their own
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well done to Donna_Brett for instigating a lively and , for the most part, cordial debate.....after coping some early dismissal it seems that there are plenty of people who feel the same way...with many (not all clearly) people actually wanting to swing at a singers party and not get bogged down in the 'social play'. The fact that CI has taken the brave step to try a full on Swing Night is a victory for the initial post. Now all I have to do is find someone to go with me...lol. Hope its a great night..
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RHP User
16 years ago
I am trying to get my twenties asian wife to swing. So far she only did same room and off on a date, nobody watching. I need nice happy people to talk her up. She wants to be flattered. Loves women but is scared of appearing bi. So if we arrive at a party and she is more talk than action, I am sorry. But I think the breakthru is coming. she said once she gets to start having indiscriminate intimacy, she will be unable to stop.
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RHP User
16 years ago
just have fun with it be comfortable in your own skin,swing if you wanto otherwise there are closed rooms to keep the watchers out , its a lot harder for a woman to find a compatible swinging partner to swap with .
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have contemplated going to a club for some time (am yet to convince the hubby) but as we would be newbies we would want to reach a comfort level before comtemplating play. Wrist bands for socialisers, swingers AND newbies would make first timers feel so much more at ease.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I hear what you are all saying ....Over the years I've visited parties/clubs in everystate except Tas,NT (as a single and couple) - My best experience has been where the clubs have a compulsory "erotic fancy dress" theme ie the ladies wear lingerie and the gents wear G strings or similar. This seems to bring everybody to the same level no matter what their socio-economic background is. It also seems to help the newbies overcome their initial fears when they see others in a similar state of undress - I know when I first got into it with my then girlfriend she saw it as great leveler and we had a great night. I've been to clubs where nothing happens until almost closing and I believe it is because everyone is just waiting for someone to start playing (when it starts it all happens) - When everyone is in erotic fancy dress half the inhibition is already gone and you know those attending are generally keen to interact and not just watch. On a different note I'm going to be in Melbourne September 4-12,(after being away for 10years) as a single guy - I'm hoping to play as much as I can anybody suggest any single guy friendly venues for group or kinky play. I've heard there is couple of brothels that have live audience participation sex shows but I'd rather play at swingers parties with those who do it for enjoyment. Cheers Mick
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RHP User
16 years ago
well this is a very interesting forum My partner and I who have both been on RHP for many yrs now have combined the two togther SOCIALISING AND SWINGING at our venture in Rockingham. There are many ppl that cant handle the club or pub scene either too sleazy or too loud, maybe just not into the whole being pushed around when there are too many ppl in one place.What we have is a club that considers all angles, we have a area that is purely for socialising and then we have got 3 themed rooms downstairs and one open room upstairs.We have found that the ppl that have been down to see us have enjoyed the fact that they have a choice.Hopefully we will see you at the club soon :P well thats my Two cents worth Ms Fantasy xxxx
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provocativeparty
16 years ago
Hello Everyone, Just thought I would stick my nose in, from the perspective of a local QLD party host….. Some people think that swingers clubs & people like us who host private parties are in this for the money; this is so far from the truth! We host parties for the good folk who attend & ourselves equally to meet wonderful people in this great lifestyle. It is a labor of love, the hours & the money that goes into setting up events & parties so people can have a good time is unrecognized by many & it’s a shame. Each and every event I personally have to stick my hand in my pocket to make up the short falls in the costs associated with these events, plus the countless hours taken out of our already very busy lives. We have been fortunate enough to receive very generous sponsorship from the wonderful people at RedHotPie to allow sexy couples & ladies to meet other likeminded people (even then, people still find something to whine about) I do believe that there has to be a social aspect to our lifestyles for others to meet & see if they gel(that is why our parties are hosted in 2 segments – Drinks night moving on to an after party), in saying this If every party we put on gets to the after party & everyone stands around talking all night I would say our numbers would decline rapidly. If you have no intention on playing with others within a certain time within the evening why not leave!!! (You could blow the chances of other couples by chewing off their ear all night) There have been many times we have been to adult venues & have sat around chatting for hours with the intent of on playing however not meet couples we are keen on playing with so we have just played with each other & then gone home, Just because we are swingers does not mean we will just F@#K anyone - that’s not what this is about. 2more4fun I do like your earlier post about the “ring a bell at 10:30” stripping off & getting it on, my partner & I are normally the first to get our kit off , We believe that some people need a little shunt to help them get into the groove. I’m not sure if that makes any sense but I just wanted to have my dribble :) EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY PP
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RHP User
16 years ago
We go to swingers nights every Monday night and other swingers nights at other times. We don't always play. I don't see why it has to be a necessity to do so.There have been more times than not that we do not meet the right couples to play with. Henceforth, it becomes more of a social night.There are plenty of must play venues out there, maybe you are not looking in the right places.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Its just so funny, because when I found out there were venues like no other where you could swing with others I thought it was great. Then you get familiar and realise even in that enviroment there are complications. I think keep it simple. We really dont go to play with just anyone, and as we are a couple we are always ok. But in saying that, would be great to know that people there are either true swingers, newbies or watchers. Not just show ponies getting attention or using the venue for a kinky meet up. Not that there is anything wrong with that either, but it wastes time and effort even when you meet nice people. Be great if we were all on the same page.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Donna _ BrettFeel free to come along to our Fuck Night this Friday We will put a pass on the door for you.Thanks for starting this forum and we hope your ideas work, so come along and check it out for yourselves as our guests on the night please.Bryan and Leesa Couples International.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I cant believe this topic has become so passionately debated. People at clubs can talk cant they?? I laugh my guts up at people who for some reason must think their mouths are welded shut... I've seen too many guys in glory hole cubicles gesticulating instead of saying what they want (or don't want) ..... it just cracks me up... I laugh out loud at them... I mean.. its one thing to be unable to talk cause your mouth is full of dick... but when there's no impediment.. please... say something instead of all that agressively posulated gesticulating hand work! lol. Dont ya speak, Dopey! It might be dark but I can still hear! If I go to a swinger's club or a sex club I have a reasonable expectation that the other people there are interested in indulging in some sexual activity. That expectation doesn't extend to the notion that they all want to indulge in sexual activity with me. Frankly, if people go there to socialise and that's all that they do, it doesn't bother me at all... Apart from my inclination to believe that the people who attend such clubs have something in common with me, i.e. an interest in free love for the moment.... I leave all my other expectations at home. I don't think we need rubber bands, bandanas or parrots on shoulders (lolz) when a simple conversation is really not so difficult to achieve. My tongue is useful on such nights for more than just licking with it! Hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
We've never attended a club but we have talked about it. Maybe one day... we do have one in mind and a lovely couple we would like to meet face to face!Anyway, we would not go to any club with the thought in mind that play was a definite goal or assume that anyone else was in that state of mind. I wouldn't want to wear a band or anything to designate our intention to play or not either, I can't see it being a decision we would want to have to make unless we met someone we were interested in playing with. Surely it wouldn't be too hard to get a general idea of how people are feeling about playing that night, with or without you lol, while chatting. I'm amused by your suggestion that people attend just so they can boast to their friends... about the lifestyle that so many on RHP go out of their way to be discrete about... And Muggles... as used in the Harry Potter movies is a deep insult. MrsP
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RHP User
16 years ago
just wondering how "fuck night" went - would have loved to come but after the week at work I had I would have only wanted to socialise --- lol
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Swingingnudist
16 years ago
we see that CI in this column defending peoples right to socialise, they then ran a "fuck night" for the minority! so the ad goes. now they're running another one for the minority in oct cause the first one was a huge success mmmm interesting????
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'couplesint' Well posted up the night on RHP events...and the interest seems good so far! Quoting 'Donna_Brett' After all the 'flak' we copped about raising the above question...the club that tried to shoot us down most is now hosting a 'Fuck' night for "players only" apparently because of this very forum question? Sheeesh!!! LOL Quoting 'couplesint' Donna _ BrettFeel free to come along to our Fuck Night this Friday We will put a pass on the door for you.Thanks for starting this forum and we hope your ideas work, so come along and check it out for yourselves as our guests on the night please.Bryan and Leesa Couples International. Quoting 'swinger007' we see that CI in this column defending peoples right to socialise, they then ran a "fuck night" for the minority! so the ad goes. now they're running another one for the minority in oct cause the first one was a huge success mmmm interesting???? Wow!!!How good is it that CI has the openness of mind to support their beliefs on this thread AND respect 'other's' beliefs by considering their desires and planning a night specially for them. Then going so far as to offer a free pass to the originator of the thread...Pity the 'others' don't have that style to rise above their norm and acknowledge the recognition of their plight, as stated in the original post, by CI and the fact that they got what they asked for!!!Mrs PNot likely ever a swinger at clubs to be...if this childish behaviour is what I'm likely to see...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Wife and I are new to swingers, but we like the idea that you can go to regular swingers clubs and just socialise etc. It is part of networking I get more annoyed if you meet "swingers" online and and the profiles do not match their tastes. Male Bi curious and he isn't. We don't have a problem with straight or genuine curious but are frustrated by players who only want to see there partner get it on with other guys etc. Even more frustrated when the guy suddenly goes straight when my lips wrap around his cock. WHile I am on a roll, to all the beautiful people (BP): get real, everyone of course has freedom of choice but when one of the partners is rejected because of size age origin, stop and think that they also have feelings. SOme of our best play friends are not in the BP group but are the horniest sexiest people on the planet. Thats it. All hail open and horny people!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Couples Int, did your night eventuate?? How did it go?? Someone i know holds parties here in Sydney and you have to play to a certain degree. that is stated beforehand so you know what you are up for. One thing i often wonder is how people can judge just by looking at someone or another couple, if they are going to get on sexually. Surely you just have to play to find out?? If it doesn't work out then you just dont hook up with them again. It isn 't the end of the world!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
we have been to a swingers club twice, we went so we could fuck and suck in front of others without fear of being arrested by doing lewd acts in public, we dont want actual sexualcontact with other couples, we do however love the socialising with other singles and couples, some have put the hard word on us and although very tempting and flatering we have declined.we are not prudes but clubs catering for our needs dont exist so until they do we probaly will visit the swingers venues.
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RHP's popular dating tool
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Where the heck did that topic go?
Discover what RHP is doing offline
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RHP member's RL secrets
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