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Unhinged or unethical playmates and trust

April 06 2013

We're not hugely experienced but we've been playing for a couple of years. One of our very first dates was with a couple who we got on well with but who told us of their angry run ins with others. Fast forward and it seems they started all the trouble and have left a trail of destruction behind them. Another playmate, we know very well, or thought we did, have spent many nights together over the past year, camping etc. He recently spun an elaborate lie about a topic we know lots about, which just got deeper and deeper the more we tried to offer the 'easy out' option that maybe he got his wires crossed. In the vanilla world we know a beautiful girl who I've been told on good authority goes to swingers parties as a unicorn, or with male friends. She's a pathological liar, this isn't speculation, she's completely crazy, not someone we chose to spend time with but someone we've know for many, many years. Our male friend's delusional fairy tale totally threw us, in his favour he was drunk at the time but the intricacies of the story he spun has meant we'll never look at him the same way again. Another couple we know tried to make a profit from us over some shared expenses, they weren't crazy but opportunistic when we trusted them to do the right thing. We didn't confront them because it wasn't much and proving it would have been messy involving a 3rd party. Personally I think ripping people off, even small amounts, shows something in line with mental illness, a lack of compassion or empathy, or a sense of self entitlement. So besides being interested in which flavours of crazy or mean have other RHPers have experienced I'd like to know at what point do you trust your playmates? And how do you protect yourself from attracting them?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    And not always in a good way :( I get close to very few people. Those who do know me well know that my ethics and values guide everything I do. I set really high standards for my own treatment of others, and look for the same in friends, lovers and partners. It's rare to find it and I admit I test people in various ways - to see if they tell straight stories consistently, to see how they behave in tricky situations and so on. I accept that people are who they are and it's not my place to judge. However there are certain energies and attitudes I won't let into my life. I'm frequently surprised at how much people can bullshit, how self-absorbed and self-serving they can be. OP, sorry you've had some crappy experiences :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    are people whether here or IRL.The good,the bad,the beautiful and the downright ugly.None of the afore mentioned has anything to do with looks BTW. I always expect that people will behave well, but I can be quite ruthless of they don't.

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    13 years ago

    ....and now my bullshit detector is finely tuned. I have been lucky and truly enjoyed the few people here I've been fortunate to meet or converse with. I really think those with hidden agendas a robbing themselves mostly, they just don't know it. Thier loss is someone else's gain. As for your male friend (tutt tutts) it's amazing how some people can yap themselves into a corner.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    and what you are trying to say - and I do empathise with your experiences as most of us in life have come across people who behave out of what we would deem acceptable behavior I do take affront of your comment..."shows something in line with mental illness" - that is a broad and in my humble opinion, a very dangerous statement to make..   1 in 5 people suffer form mental illness - and in Australia the forerunner is depression..just because one suffers form any form of mental illness does not akin them to doing strange, wrong or unethical things...their judgement may be impaired..but trust me I know many who would be what you would call "normal" and btw define normal...and they are more than capable of performing cruel, illegal and unethical and act along the lines of what you have described in your OP.   Im not having a shot at you....but before you go judging others one must turn the mirror back at oneself......and in answer to your question...at what point do you trust your playmates. ?..perhaps the answer is you dont... and only let them into your lives for exactly that..playing and playing only   All relationships are a risk... you either patrticipate in them or you dont..and if you do..then you expose yourself...and therefore must take on board all that you are exposed to..or simply walk away............we have free will and choice...and should exercise it accordingly.... you dont want to get hurt..then dont play...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Oh I've come across a few crazies on here, not just the one I've met or heard from but also one who knew someone I knew, thought she was in love with him (coz they'd spoken on the phone you know, from 2000 kms away!) and somehow tracked me down and contacted me when he said we'd been seeing each other. Scary mofo, no grip on reality! The guy i chatted with for AGES who would never meet (betcha he's still lurking! Hi!) and came up with the most out there excuses. For the ones I've met IRL, no one really mad/bad I tend to avoid people with 'strange' energy. I've met a few and run a mile. I want a drama free existence, it's all about fun for me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    As long as you are aware and dont allow yourself to be fooled by them more than once.People say its human nature, but I say it's the environment one creates when you meet the person.another saying a remember was - I trust everyone, just not the DEVIL in them.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Sorry, you are right, I struggled with the right way to paraphrase that - I think sociopathic is probably more apt. I was just thinking of a couple of the sociopathic people I know and they suffer from personality disorders. I know a number of other suffering from mental illness who are very moral in their judgement. I think too the only playmate where we had really put the trust forward was with the guy who had moved into the friendzone, as well as playmate. We'd hung out a few times without sex being involved.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I like the crazy people, they are every human you ever meet. I like the ones that spin these great lies and stories about themselves, sometimes I even encourage em   You know , the ones that are an astronaut, who were married six times to millionaires, who suffer from every illness in the book cause they read a medical dictionary once( that’s why I don’t read em) ..shit what’s that purple mark..fuck how come I cant see ...ohh whew found my glasses. I like to give myself illnesses I cant spell, that’s most illnesses cause I am dyslexic. anyone want to give me money for a new kidney?   My favs are the cyber fall in love with some dude, dudette who they never met but hey its instant take me to the church on time. I love em, they have no insight into their delusions and really its the funny fuckers that make life interesting. so long as ya don’t give em money or the keys to your car   Or introduce them to your off-line friends, or they will be at dinner and say...TR remember when we were fucking that time at band camp and you know how those guys that we were fucking all fell in love with me...you know the dockers foot ball team guys.................laaaaaaaaaalaaaaaaaaaaaa land   I love it when they get their stories all mixed up but they don’t even realise it, they keep on going on when last week they said my mother died and then this week ohh my mother died...and you see mum at the shops the next day.   I love the rhp stories the he said she said, a whole internet days of our lives where they create their own story line and character.   Just go with the crazy people, its a lot more fun Mostly you do not know they are nuts till its to late...........and your at the police station and you bought yourself a gun.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    hi! Token Utopian:) It must be the weather or great minds because I've been thinking about Posting the same kind of Topic.. So Thanks for having your say :) Fortunately I've managed to stay clear of Unethical Guys bar 1 who I was Tutoring in the ways Of Sex. I've mentioned this before but it's apt.. He was 39yr old Foreign Guy who told me he was a Virgin I had no doubts because he had no Social skills or knew very little about Women . So I taught him to be a very good Lover as I wanted his 1st experience with a Woman to be special. However it turned out he had been Married 20yrs had a Wife and 5Kids the youngest 4yrs old. I know because I text him about not meeting and the number he gave me wasn't his but his Wife's mob. We sorted things and actually became quite Friendly but it did upset me until She understood My reasons were ethical even if he wasn't..The lies he was telling his Wife had sullied My Honour and Name I knew Karma would bite him so I left it to the Universe and moved on with My Life learning from that Experience and continue to Enjoy those I'm close too as Playmates:).. I've had 2 Male Friends who have met some very unfortunate Women who for 1 reason or another, after a good beginning together, have turned on them making their Lives exceedingly difficult. From nasty Messages ,Stalking Harassment eratic behaviour to threats on their Pets. They've changed their phone numbers and have since learned to vet their New Friends more before getting to know them in Person.. No one deserves being the brunt of someone else's Emotional Baggage.. Cheers Lu :)

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Token, some of what you say could be attributed to pathological liars or schizophrenia. I went out with a girl who suffered from it. She is medicated now but before that, she lived in her own head and thought it was all true. It is a difficult situation. If they are really sick, they need help but are paranoid to distrust any help. I know a few people who do not take their medications because one thouight it was poison while another thought God told him not to take it. They remember something happening and they did a whole lot of things. They will recall in detail all they did and the event. To them it is very real. In reality, nothing happened. I went out with a hypochondriac once. She would contact me every few hours with a new diagnosis. Thanks a lot Google (sarcasm). Then she would say, I don't care about her as seriously, who wouldn't get sick of hearing someone having new diseases every few hours. I sure know how to pick em don't I.Then you have people who are malicious. They will do or say anything to get what they want out of you. Unfortunately, it is difficult to differentiate between the two. How do you protect yourself? It can be difficult for those that are undiagnosed. I would like to know how to tell if someone has a mental illness.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Well written! We know of similar Units who will steal, falsify and latch like the parasite they are. Some are so attached to outcome, they lose their lollie with the upset they have with expectation not met....There is no indemnity from these egoic corrupted mindset types that I know of?.If there's one thing that endures it's one's character, or lack thereof...

  • QLDtwo4fun

    QLDtwo4fun

    13 years ago

    We have dodged the crazies and met some really nice people. When your all naked together there is not much to hide, and only one game to play. Respect for others is important in good swinging.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    It is a little surprising the things you hear about people. Awesome I hope that didn't put you off seeing that guy? But I agree other people's dramas ain't fun when they land on your doorstep.

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    13 years ago

    Angelic - I'm with you! I don't trust easy n I'm very wary of alot of ppl! I don't let ppl into my true self very often..... But there are ppl out there that will say n do anything to get your attention or into your pants!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv' Token, some of what you say could be attributed to pathological liars or schizophrenia. I went out with a girl who suffered from it. She is medicated now but before that, she lived in her own head and thought it was all true. It is a difficult situation. If they are really sick, they need help but are paranoid to distrust any help. I know a few people who do not take their medications because one thouight it was poison while another thought God told him not to take it. They remember something happening and they did a whole lot of things. They will recall in detail all they did and the event. To them it is very real. In reality, nothing happened. I went out with a hypochondriac once. She would contact me every few hours with a new diagnosis. Thanks a lot Google (sarcasm). Then she would say, I don't care about her as seriously, who wouldn't get sick of hearing someone having new diseases every few hours. I sure know how to pick em don't I.Then you have people who are malicious. They will do or say anything to get what they want out of you. Unfortunately, it is difficult to differentiate between the two. How do you protect yourself? It can be difficult for those that are undiagnosed. I would like to know how to tell if someone has a mental illness. I think you should read Shinas' post above regarding lumping all people with mental illness into the same basket and automatically assuming that they are all pathological, malicious liars. People are very capable of lying, cheating, deceiving, and just generally being total assholes, without them having any form of mental illness. These frustrating stigmas and generalisations that are placed on people with MI only serve to make sufferers feel even more ashamed and reluctant to seek help or even tell friends and family, out of fear of being judged and treated like a criminal. Even with schizophrenia, media portrayal has given the wider public the view that all sufferers are violent sociopaths, when the reality is that the majority have never committed a violent act or pose a threat to anybody except perhaps themselves in terms of self-harm. There is a currently a very good article about this topic up on The Conversation website and I would encourage you to read it. As for wanting to know how you can tell if somebody has a mental illness....I can only assume that is so you can avoid that person because you think they will cause you some sort of problem? Well I can guarantee that means you would have to start avoiding people you already associate with, quite possibly some friends and family members, and also myself as well. I'll have to remember not to message you again.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv'Token, some of what you say could be attributed to pathological liars or schizophrenia. I went out with a girl who suffered from it. She is medicated now but before that, she lived in her own head and thought it was all true. It is a difficult situation. If they are really sick, they need help but are paranoid to distrust any help. I know a few people who do not take their medications because one thouight it was poison while another thought God told him not to take it. They remember something happening and they did a whole lot of things. They will recall in detail all they did and the event. To them it is very real. In reality, nothing happened. I went out with a hypochondriac once. She would contact me every few hours with a new diagnosis. Thanks a lot Google (sarcasm). Then she would say, I don't care about her as seriously, who wouldn't get sick of hearing someone having new diseases every few hours. I sure know how to pick em don't I. Then you have people who are malicious. They will do or say anything to get what they want out of you. Unfortunately, it is difficult to differentiate between the two. How do you protect yourself? It can be difficult for those that are undiagnosed. I would like to know how to tell if someone has a mental illness. We write our reply to this not with maliciousness, but in a gesture of educating those who read it. 1 in 5 people will experience mental illness in their lifetime. Thus zu7bcv, you'll have a lot of avoiding to do - 20% of the people you'll have contact with on this site have had, have now, or will have a serious mental illness. Once you know someone in this situation, or work in the field, individuals with mental illness come out of the woodwork from everywhere, once it is known you can be trusted and confided in. The effect of stigma around mental illness is still very much a major issue. Let us describe some of our encounters with those with M.I. We have a family member who has suffered from major depression for nearly 30 years. His first major episode was in his early 20's, he was kicked out of Uni for non attendance during the height of his illness (enlightened times - had he broken his leg would it have been an issue?). He managed to finish his degree elsewhere, and over the past 25 years has slowly built his life in a way that he is now content. He is the most loving, kind and generous person you would ever meet, and could not hurt a fly. He is so honest that will not even accept copied movies or cds from us, when we happen to have purchased ones that he likes. He now works as a tutor, teaching overseas students. We have several close friends who are diagnosed with bipolar depression, a most horrible illness. One has attempted suicide several times. Again they are some of the most wonderful, loving and brave people you could ever find. One is a single parent devoted to their disabled child, spending every cent they can find on his therapy. Another had serious episodes of their illness triggered by witnessing atrocities while volunteering in a war zone. In fact, we would argue most strongly that the majority of those who experience serious mental illness and survive to rebuild their lives are the strongest, bravest and most selfless people you could ever meet. The obstacles, stigmas, and depths of despair (which the average person cannot even begin to contemplate) which they must overcome are incredible. So, those of you who wish to identify and avoid such individuals, perhaps you should ask yourself - may I not be better off identifying and SEEKING OUT these individuals, and learning a perspective on life that I may otherwise never understand....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Luckdragon23' I think you should read Shinas' post above regarding lumping all people with mental illness into the same basket and automatically assuming that they are all pathological, malicious liars. People are very capable of lying, cheating, deceiving, and just generally being total assholes, without them having any form of mental illness. A friend of mine was undiagnosed for 20 years. Everyone, including her family thought she was a pathological liar who likes deceiving people so that she could get attention. It was not until she went to hospital for another reason when they thought she had a mental illness. She is medicated now but relapses when she is stressed out. Oh, and guess what. A lot of people she knew from before still thinks she is making up being schizophrenic. As for wanting to know how you can tell if somebody has a mental illness....I can only assume that is so you can avoid that person because you think they will cause you some sort of problem? Well I can guarantee that means you would have to start avoiding people you already associate with, quite possibly some friends and family members, and also myself as well. I'll have to remember not to message you again.That is an interesting assumption you made. My first thought was so that I don't judge them harshly and protect myself emotionally. My friend from above had a few horrendous episodes happen to her. She had a lot of sympathy from everyone because we all thought it was true. Eventually she found out it wasn't true and told some of us. It damaged some friendships while a few went (including me), go see your doctor and psychologist and find out what caused it. Another reason is that a lot of people go undiagnosed. If there are ways to detect it early, perhaps help can be provided early on. Haha..easier said that done as I know a few people who do not take their meds. Yes, some think they are fine and stop taking it while a few others told me they thought the meds were poison. I am not kidding. Truth, understanding and compassion goes a long way when dealing with people but more so when dealing with someone with mental illness. I can't say I have empathy as I've never known what it was like until I saw this video on YouTube. For those interested, look up "Types of Schizophrenia - A day in the life of (Scary)" on YouTube. Some of my friends say that is very mild psychotic episode but you will get an idea what it is like for them. Oh and it manifest differently for everyone.Luckdragon, thanks for the info on the Conversation. I'll go have a look. Sorry to hear you don't want to message me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    People are having a go at others with mental illness. I would think that every person on here at some stage of their life has had a little mental hick up at times or worse.   Living with people with mental heath issues can wear you down and also when you have it yourself.   My sister is a nut, I used to have to bail her out of mental hospitals ,etc and both my grandmothers and aunty killed themselves.   there are stories out there, but I think this thread is about the other nuts the ones that yes may have issues but they manipulate others, they can be the cat in the goldfish bowel   the biggest problem are the ones with no empathy, have anger managment issues or issues of attachment.   People who make up a life based on a few snippets of cyber interaction. the gossip girls/boys that will judge another from things like forum posts or just messages to each other without ever even meeting that person offline.   People that lie to get sex as in married people people who stalk another online and offf and though some times its not rational to us it is to them   with our without a mental ilness people do some stupid things to hurt others.   I call people nuts or crazy. are we that of a political correct mode that we have to jump up and down over everything?   I call myself crazy at times and I am. But I try not to harrrase playmates or get something from someone including my own delusional way.   And I see that on online communities not just sex sites , yes we do have to be carefull we dont invite the bunny boiler into our lives.   fuck to late, I smell wabbit pie

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I am not sure why, but online does seem to bring the fruit loop out in people....there appears to be more than usual in here at times. Whenever I have commented about it in the past I have been howled down...its very funny .Just like in real life, I feel you do need just trust your gut feeling when meeting someone.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    There is something I read about years ago from Buddhist Doctrine. The Buddha said, we are all delusional but just matter of degrees. We spend so much time caught up in attachment, anger, greed, etc that our mind might not be in touch with reality. No, not the reality that most people think as reality but a deeper insight into the true nature of things. This delusion might be minor for some but major for others. There is a good article about Attachment and delusion on the ABC website. I am an avid reader/listener of Aunty.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think the OP is referring to toxic people.People who are manipulative,people who lack empathy for others...it may appear that they do, but they don't.......People who have fragile egos and need to bolster them with constant attention seeking,....sometimes they take negative attention over no attention...people who do not have your best interests at heart....people who even actively act against your best interests...jealous people... How do you spot them Zu,sometimes it takes years but eventually they will show you who they really are.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Isn't being slightly crazy a prerequisite for being on rhp?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    This world is full of all sorts of People!!! More often than not those with "mental illness", anything from anxiety, depression, bi-polar, to I don't know what??? Are just as "normal" as anyone else!! What defines someone as "- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    "Normal". I wonder?? People who live in the non-contact world of on-line dating sites?? Are they normal?? Any more than those who rely on some form of medication to get them through their days???! Mmmmmmmm- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    To the people I've met IRL, and those folks that I have had email conversations with on here. Not only have they taught me about people generally speaking, but have taught me a lot about who I am. You folks know who you are xxxx That all said, I'm also thankful I'm very picky who I meet, as I want fun as well as play. That's something that you just can't find over a few drinks and a good Irish pot pie. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Points to myself...normal points to the rest of you fuckers...............nuts   there is nothing wrong with me with me with me teee hee with me with me   shit someone stole my sex tapes with tom cruise and brad pit   fuckers and ohh yeah my cyber lover gives me the best cyber sex that It pales in comparason to a real cock and were gonna get married as soon as I send him the 20 grand for him to fly over from some place in Africa he looks so handsome his pictures look just like that guy out of the coke add cleaning the window maybe its really him?   got to go people, Julia Gillard is comming to dinner to ask me how to run the country   yep this is the normal corner

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I was sorry to hear about what happened to you.. at least she is thousands of kilometres away!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Most people I know think that I'm crazy...Well I'm not normal lol, define normal. If I decide I don't trust someone or their effect on me, I will remove myself from their ability to have an effect on me any further. People that talk about their 'friends' behind their backs are not to be trusted. I mean to say, what is it they could be saying about me behind my back? I've seen too much of that here in our world of RHP where there is a veil of mystery better than any poor quality soapie. Some say, keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer, I have no time for that shit. This place has tested my sense of trust far more than any real life situations. I think playmates from what I remember of my time with the Mr on here were usually failrly obvious, certainly in retrospect. The man who would pay more attention to me than when the Mr was not in immediate attendance. Another man who always showed absolute respect to his partner even when she was not with us. One was not to be trusted and the other who along with his partner has much respect still. Our contacts were few but of these things I am certain. Do people who prove to be untrustworthy mean to be that way? Not necessarily is what I choose to believe but anyone who is questionable will get that much less trust from me on my own behalf. At some point, I will prefer not to let them have any further effect on my state of mind, no apologies. That has been the sum total of my time on RHP, right or wrong I am a much more suspicious me than I used to be.How do I not attract them? Apparently like attracts like... hehehehehehe... Hugs...

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Yep, I'm a bit crazy and I agree, you have got to be to be on here. But there's woo Hoo, let's go skinny dipping crazy and there's I have no idea about social norms and boundaries crazy. And Meeka, this experience has put me off the bloke in question, it put a cloud over the whole friendship. It's also put me off meeting anyone from this site. I've put my profile onto silent mode and have cooled it right off. It made me feel very exposed and vulnerable. The reality is that I don't know just how mad/bad this person is. I do know at least a few people (including the man who i was friends with) who have left the site because of her. I have been contemplating leaving too. It's a bummer that one nutter can ruin it for so many.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    ... some postings on this thread a little mean spirited. I know of course this probably wasn't intentional (it's often quite hard to convey a message via this medium). But (once again) I connected with Freya's posting. Good to see you here MrsPeachy :-) Wishing everyone a happy experience on RHP ... KK

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Very nice to be welcomed. I thought to add this to the thread as I have just spotted the saying and this thread has been on my mind today..."I'm not crazy... My reality is just different from yours." I think a lot of the time people just see things differently though there can, obviously I suppose, be cases where there can be no doubt people are up to no good.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'sirlurkalot' To the people I've met IRL, and those folks that I have had email conversations with on here. Not only have they taught me about people generally speaking, but have taught me a lot about who I am. You folks know who you are xxxx That all said, I'm also thankful I'm very picky who I meet, as I want fun as well as play. That's something that you just can't find over a few drinks and a good Irish pot pie. - Posted from rhpmobile You took the words right out of my mouth...FOXY xxx

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Firstly I would like to say that I too have allowed my anger to get the better of me when I have felt hard done by by a person with mental health issues when I most likely should have treated that person with compassion. I understand Awesome and others how you feel. I know nothing about anything really but I do know Awesome from personally experience and friendship that the manly bloke in question is truly one of the good guys. Don't let one experience ruin things for you, although I know I did the same when something like that happened to me. I couldn't log on for about three months. :( Be kind to each other peeps!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think there is probably a huge percentage of people who have no idea of what mental health issues (think PTSD, depression & anxiety, schizophrenia etc etc) involve and/or realise that they have have mental health issues themselves and/or if they do realise, have a sense of how much those issues involve themselves. That is part of the pattern. So, I think a lot of the time the problems between individuals can be put down to a lack of understanding. That has been my experience from my point of view at least. Most people I know and am in contact with who have recognised mental health issues are excrutiatingly aware and sensitive of the effect it has on them and others. I'm not sure all toxic people would necessarily come under the mental health issue banner for example but this may be a lack of understanding on my behalf. :-S.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Firstly I would like to say that I too have allowed my anger to get the better of me when I have felt hard done by by a person with mental health issues when I most likely should have treated that person with compassion. I understand Awesome and others how you feel. I know nothing about anything really but I do know Awesome from personally experience and friendship that the manly bloke in question is truly one of the good guys. Don't let one experience ruin things for you, although I know I did the same when something like that happened to me. I couldn't log on for about three months. :( Be kind to each other peeps! He really is one of the better good guys.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    all sorts of nuts .... If it makes someone feel better to live in la la land for a little while, and it doesn't hurt anyone else .... meh, it may be just what they need to do to get through the day.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'paintme' Quoting 'Meeka100' Firstly I would like to say that I too have allowed my anger to get the better of me when I have felt hard done by by a person with mental health issues when I most likely should have treated that person with compassion. I understand Awesome and others how you feel. I know nothing about anything really but I do know Awesome from personally experience and friendship that the manly bloke in question is truly one of the good guys. Don't let one experience ruin things for you, although I know I did the same when something like that happened to me. I couldn't log on for about three months. :( Be kind to each other peeps! He really is one of the better good guys. But his simple act of helping me with pc issues at a time when my confidence was at my lowest was incredibly reassuring. xXx

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'TongueCramps' Quoting 'zu7bcv'Token, some of what you say could be attributed to pathological liars or schizophrenia. I went out with a girl who suffered from it. She is medicated now but before that, she lived in her own head and thought it was all true. It is a difficult situation. If they are really sick, they need help but are paranoid to distrust any help. I know a few people who do not take their medications because one thouight it was poison while another thought God told him not to take it. They remember something happening and they did a whole lot of things. They will recall in detail all they did and the event. To them it is very real. In reality, nothing happened. I went out with a hypochondriac once. She would contact me every few hours with a new diagnosis. Thanks a lot Google (sarcasm). Then she would say, I don't care about her as seriously, who wouldn't get sick of hearing someone having new diseases every few hours. I sure know how to pick em don't I. Then you have people who are malicious. They will do or say anything to get what they want out of you. Unfortunately, it is difficult to differentiate between the two. How do you protect yourself? It can be difficult for those that are undiagnosed. I would like to know how to tell if someone has a mental illness. We write our reply to this not with maliciousness, but in a gesture of educating those who read it. 1 in 5 people will experience mental illness in their lifetime. Thus zu7bcv, you'll have a lot of avoiding to do - 20% of the people you'll have contact with on this site have had, have now, or will have a serious mental illness. Once you know someone in this situation, or work in the field, individuals with mental illness come out of the woodwork from everywhere, once it is known you can be trusted and confided in. The effect of stigma around mental illness is still very much a major issue. Let us describe some of our encounters with those with M.I. We have a family member who has suffered from major depression for nearly 30 years. His first major episode was in his early 20's, he was kicked out of Uni for non attendance during the height of his illness (enlightened times - had he broken his leg would it have been an issue?). He managed to finish his degree elsewhere, and over the past 25 years has slowly built his life in a way that he is now content. He is the most loving, kind and generous person you would ever meet, and could not hurt a fly. He is so honest that will not even accept copied movies or cds from us, when we happen to have purchased ones that he likes. He now works as a tutor, teaching overseas students. We have several close friends who are diagnosed with bipolar depression, a most horrible illness. One has attempted suicide several times. Again they are some of the most wonderful, loving and brave people you could ever find. One is a single parent devoted to their disabled child, spending every cent they can find on his therapy. Another had serious episodes of their illness triggered by witnessing atrocities while volunteering in a war zone. In fact, we would argue most strongly that the majority of those who experience serious mental illness and survive to rebuild their lives are the strongest, bravest and most selfless people you could ever meet. The obstacles, stigmas, and depths of despair (which the average person cannot even begin to contemplate) which they must overcome are incredible. So, those of you who wish to identify and avoid such individuals, perhaps you should ask yourself - may I not be better off identifying and SEEKING OUT these individuals, and learning a perspective on life that I may otherwise never understand....

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Luckdragon23' So, those of you who wish to identify and avoid such individuals, perhaps you should ask yourself - may I not be better off identifying and SEEKING OUT these individuals, and learning a perspective on life that I may otherwise never understand.... Thanks for sharing your story. Seems we have a lot of misunderstanding. I was wondering how to identify people with mental illness early so that they can get help. I know people who were undiagnosed between 10-20 years. Lets just say their childhood and early adult life was very difficult. Fortunately for me, the people I know are not violent nor suicidal. A few have suicidal ideations but do not act upon it. I read up a lot on schizophrenia so have a good understanding of it theoretically. You are right. A lot more needs to be done to change perceptions about mental illness. A friend of mine just published her thesis on Schizophrenia and will be publishing it as a book within a year or so. I know another person making a documentary to show the human side of mental illness. Unfortunately, I have also seen people spiral downwards due to non-compliance. I do not know much about other types of mental illness but am willing to learn. I am a bit of a generalist by nature. Jack of all trades.

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    13 years ago

    The world is full of nutters and opportunists and the Internet in general is their playground. If people cheat me or rip me off I always confront them and always make them wish they hadn't. I have no tolerance for bullshitters and if I think someone is taking the piss I just say so right then. Life is way too short to put up with them when tere are so many other people out there with beautiful trustworthy souls.- Posted from rhpmobile

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    13 years ago

    I don't trust them at all. I especially don't trust people from RHP much, hence I pretty much never meet anyone. The realist in me is too often correct. I'd rather keep the fantasy alive, have a play on cam and maybe have a mental fuck. The sex probably isn't worth it anyway, far too many people overestimating their skills on here. I'd rather take my chances with people I meet in everyday life.

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    13 years ago

    Things really haven't changed that much, be it offline or online. There will always be some scammers or cheats trying to get into your pants/skirt or get some money off you. A large bullshit detector and some common sense should help most people. Unfortunately, I think people become a bit too trusting online. My students did an experiment on online spam. They found a large number of people were willing to give up their credit card information online.

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    13 years ago

    On a side note: For those who watched Q&A last night, the PM is all for raising awareness and reducing stigma of mental illness. What exactly she will be doing, who knows but good on her for saying she wants it to happen. I have an ex-student who is writing a book on mental illness, schizophrenia to be exact, that hopefully will raise awareness and reduce the stigma attached to it. It should be out by the end of this year or early next year.

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    13 years ago

    Some FCKD up indivduals...   At times, I have been accused of being one! (OR EVEN MORE THEN ONE)   One might ask what a fckd up individual is anyway.. Look back in history.. and loook at some of our great statesmen.. leaders and role models..   There is HOPE for me yet