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Vaginal knitting?!
December 26 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
The artist has obviously been influenced by the work of British artist Tracey Emin. In 1999,Emin had an exhibition in the USA at the LehmanMaupin Gallery entitled ..Every Part of Me is Bleeding....Later that year she was nominated for the Turner Prize for an installation consisting of her own unmade dirty bed with used condoms and blood stained underwear. Emin's work is often meant to provoke,and challenge our view of women....menstruation being still a social taboo for discussion ,although this is changing...menstruation is not a dirty word... Emin is now a professor of drawing art at the Royal Academy.She was awarded the CBE for her services to art in January. Casey Jenkins is IMO following in Emin's footsteps with her work. Art is not always pretty,artists often provoke and challenge our complacent view of the world. Damien Hirst is a contemporary of Emins,his work has death as a central theme...he became famous for a series of animals preserved in formaldehyde including a shark,a sheep and a cow. Hirst is Britain'.s wealthiest artist.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mes .... having the menstral part of my life finished and rejoicing at its end, I really don't want to be reminded of it in any way, shape or form. Knittng through her menstral cycle ... the smell alone once it has dried is a real turn off not the mention the messy practical side of knitting menstrally blood soaked yarn.... Artistically, I can see where she is coming from wanting to celebrate being a woman and the cycle that brings life into the world. Kudos to her for being so open to expressing herself. As a piece of artwork ... will it be up for sale? SF
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Sensory_fun' not the mention the messy practical side of knitting menstrally blood soaked yarn.... Let's hope she's not a squirter! I get the artistically showing the full length of a woman's cycle, but I'm not really a fan of how she chose to do it. Points for originality though.Though for whatever reason, I find the Emin exhibition more intriguing, maybe because it tells more of a story.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Freya77' Damien Hirst is a contemporary of Emins,his work has death as a central theme...he became famous for a series of animals preserved in formaldehyde including a shark,a sheep and a cow. I love the Body Worlds exhibition with the plasticized bodies of humans and animals, and think that showing them is quite educational. Not sure about a smelly brown-stained knitted scarf though.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is it the fact that it's real menstrual blood and not imitation to demonstrate her point more the eww factor?? I think it's quite a moving statement, which outweighs any ewwww factor I may have had. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
..... Sorry about the twin posts - Posted from rhpmobile
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wingman2014
12 years ago
Im all for pushing the boundaries but for me this will attract the wrong sort of crowd.......... Flies - Posted from rhpmobile
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
Love art, in all form....something's are beautiful and some not so beautiful...it's up to the individually and what they're trying to express... Not sure if this is for me but, I will defiantly have a look but.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have often thought that many profile pics resemble a Tracey Emin piece..
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'wingman2013' Im all for pushing the boundaries but for me this will attract the wrong sort of crowd.......... Flies A crowd of flies is called a business. So many jokes there.
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RHP User
12 years ago
The responses of ick, eww and why are exactly why this kind of art is valid :) She's prompted discussion, which I'm sure was in part her goal. It was on my fb feed too and I clicked through for a look. I love the title of it, makes perfect sense to me :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
It gets pretty tiring hearing from one "artist" after another trying to gain publicity by being deliberately confrontational or controversial... and labelling that as art. I once wiped my butt and made the shape of Christ..... Offensive?! Now.... imagine the response if I said Mohammed. Why should it be any different... both are stupid. And now you understand. DG
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RHP User
12 years ago
You ARE a god lol :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Guernica is a political work of art by Picasso in response to the bombing of Guernica in 1937 by the Fascists during the Spanish Civil War. This painting helped bring the Spanish Civil War to the worlds attention. Perhaps DG now you understand that art isn't always pretty,yes it can be confrontational and offensive to some...obviously you find it so....but that is also the point.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Picasso didn't use his semen to paint "Guernica" though... or if he did, he certainly didn't tell everyone simply to gain publicity because of it. He let his talent speak through his work. That's the difference. If this woman didn't mention using her menstrual fluids.... she'd just be knitting another boring fucking sweater.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Art can be pretentious twaddle sometimes and has no real meaning.
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RHP User
12 years ago
DG she actually knits the scarf in the gallery in the nude whilst pulling the wool out of her vagina. People have told her she is brave and courageous for doing that, but I struggle to find the meaning behind it to be honest. By the way, I would definitely go watch if she was knitting a chocolate scarf though. :p
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RHP User
12 years ago
Another boring sweater BAHAHAHA. Gold....pure fucking gold!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I saw this a while ago and followed it while it was happening. I think it is an exceptionally beautiful and courageous artwork. It speaks on so many levels and truly confronts the audience with something that should truly be seen as natural - nothing more.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I was a big fan of this piece. I am glad fb caught onto it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
"The British Jordan McKenzie, 40, involves in epic auto-sexual orgies for creating a new exhibition, which is the result of his masturbating and ejaculating over the canvas. The artist produces about three works a week. So far, he has produced 55 work of art images through immortalizing its sperm pouring carbon powder over it. After that, McKenzie covers the work with a glass plate (to protect it against flies and other elements).".
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RHP User
12 years ago
"This is only the first batch of them. It is a diary of my ejaculations, they are heartfelt and delicate. I hope people will come and see them - not judge them out of hand." .Out of hand!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't understand why people say it's courageous? To me it's uninteresting and not very clever. In a gallery I would probably give it a minute of my time then move on.
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RHP User
12 years ago
To me that is interesting. I would definitely like for someone to make a painting Of me after I die... I would have to approve the artist though. :D
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RHP User
12 years ago
That could have been profound, but since he used them to produce a small painting of just grey streaks I don't get it, and I can understand why the Jewish community got very upset..To quote one member: "Maybe some of the ashes originated from my relatives. No one knows where they were deported: all my mother's siblings and their children, and my grandparents.".The bodies used in Body Worlds (by German Gunther von Hagens) were all of people who had donated their remains to science. Big difference I think, though some of them were quite recognizable and I can imagine families to being thrilled with that either.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes I understand why they were upset. But I think it would be kinda cool to be immortalized in a painting. But Of course it has to be a great painting!! Which again is subjective.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If that's art...... I might eat an orphan, dressed in a superman costume while pooing my pants after a huge night eating Mexican food..... And tell the world it's a statement against corporate greed. What a load of twaddle lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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wingman2014
12 years ago
Id pay to see that . There was one a few years back who produced "Piss Christ", it was a jar of the artists urine and in it was placed a crucifix. Of course their was outrage by the usual suspects . And this achieved the desired effect , the artist became famous .....for 15 minutes. Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame , its what you do to achieve this thats important . you can dive to new lows or you can reach for the stars - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I dare ya ;) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am not surprised by your white male first world thinking...I would be surprised if your reaction was the opposite....antidiluvian thinking
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RHP User
12 years ago
But whatever floats ones boat. I'm not a huge art fan, I see a picture or an arrangement of objects and say "hey that's interesting, next". When someone does something supposedly outrageous, just for attention I deliberately avoid it. As something of a one man protest against the 15 minutes of fame phenomenon.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Can i have a new beany for winter ????? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Don't you white male stereotype me! Or I'll call out your white woman stereotyping habits ;-) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I still say, if that's an artistic statement..... so to are the encrustations of vomit on a woman's shoe after a big night out. There's nothing clever in it..... Only confrontation for attention and notoriety's sake - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
we are what we are...you are a product of your cultural bias,as am I
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'wingman2013' Id pay to see that . There was one a few years back who produced "Piss Christ", it was a jar of the artists urine and in it was placed a crucifix. I see absolutely nothing artistic or deep in that one. Knitting your cycle I can see the meaning behind, but soaking our saviour in secretions is just done for shock value in my book..Like Rick Gibson, who made a pair of earrings with freeze-dried human foetuses. Why?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Picasso didn't use his semen to paint "Guernica" though... or if he did, he certainly didn't tell everyone simply to gain publicity because of it. He let his talent speak through his work. That's the difference. If this woman didn't mention using her menstrual fluids.... she'd just be knitting another boring fucking sweater. Gilbert and George did. And their poo. Their work is fabulous. They demystify all bodily fluids and celebrate it as matter like any other matter in the universe. It can all be very beautiful when presented in a certain way. What's wrong with knitting out her vajayjay?? We all fuck and suck girly juices. Many of us have fucked during our period and made messes of the bed. Big deal. It's all just part of our body and it's beautiful cycle. Women artists for decades have found that performance art is the best way to communicate the experience of being a woman. It isn't steeped in the patriarchal traditions of painting and sculpture where women struggled to find their place in history. I commend her for her connection to her body in all it's manifestations.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' I still say, if that's an artistic statement..... so to are the encrustations of vomit on a woman's shoe after a big night out. There's nothing clever in it..... Only confrontation for attention and notoriety's sake - Posted from rhpmobile disagree. Contemporary art is often difficult for those with closed minds to understand.
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RHP User
12 years ago
the think about how you were taught what art is and think about instead what it can be. Often these works are part of a larger body of work by these artists and when isolated are challenging to understand. Do a little research and try to see the big picture. The artist's work within a larger context. Kinda the same as you see people's posts here. Context is everything. And remember,Small people discuss other people.Average people discuss events.Amazing people discuss ideas.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes! Great post :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Be a case of toxic shock value?
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madotara69
12 years ago
Towards a Meeka Lisa, using a fabric, velvet or something nice and soft....... Then you caught my attention paint me. I had this idea a while back, that playing with myself could be done in an artful way. To this day it still is amazing. Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
sorry to comment again ... On the topic of Piss Christ - Pretend for a moment that you didn't know it was piss. Doesn't the crucifix look ethereal? Suspended in a still, meditative, weightless space. Big deal if it's piss. Gandhi drank his own piss. There are many here that find a very spiritual connection with piss and love to be showered in it. Piss can make people feel completely euphoric, just as praying can make you feel euphoric. Take the time to consider these works. Being merely shocked by them is really limiting your experience of them.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Towards a Meeka Lisa, using a fabric, velvet or something nice and soft....... Then you caught my attention paint me. I had this idea a while back, that playing with myself could be done in an artful way. To this day it still is amazing. Mado to paint you while you played with your cock. Tara can help me.
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GezWouldGo
12 years ago
Methinks Freya just broke her New Years resolution!
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madotara69
12 years ago
What a good idea,
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RHP User
12 years ago
When you come across that stuff, it's time to get off the internet for a bit.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I haven't seen it, but like any art it will appeal to some and not to others. The concept doesn't appeal to me, but that takes nothing away from the naturalness of the female cycle. I find it easy to talk and discuss the topic, but don't understand why we may need to be confronted about it. But obviously the artist does. If I was knit something out of a year's used condoms, it would be seen as gross.... yet this statement I believe would be far more useful to the world. Having said that, I may need to use some other guys ones as well... my may may a fairly small garment of late....lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'paint_me' On the topic of Piss Christ - Pretend for a moment that you didn't know it was piss. Doesn't the crucifix look ethereal? Suspended in a still, meditative, weightless space. Big deal if it's piss. Gandhi drank his own piss. I did not realise the artwork was a photograph, and it does look like you describe: ethereal.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't get alot of contemporary performance art or sculptures, or even some paintings. Yes the artist is expressing themselves but I am often left thinking, anyone can do that. To me someone who paints a fantastic painting,,,,,,, that takes real skill but contemporary art is often disturbing and the meaning behind the pieces to me...... is quite often disconnected. Not all contemporary art but.... And whats with all the video art at the moment?? I suppose I like the traditional type of art more. But I fully admit I am an ignoramus when it comes to art. As for the knitting lady, yes it is an expression of the female cycle. But I am still left wondering...... so what? Although I am surprised at how animated DG has become at showing his disdain with the vaginal knitting piece, I kind of agree. It doesn't speak to me at all. Art is subjective.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'paint_me' sorry to comment again ... On the topic of Piss Christ - Pretend for a moment that you didn't know it was piss. Doesn't the crucifix look ethereal? Suspended in a still, meditative, weightless space. Big deal if it's piss. Gandhi drank his own piss. There are many here that find a very spiritual connection with piss and love to be showered in it. Piss can make people feel completely euphoric, just as praying can make you feel euphoric. Take the time to consider these works. Being merely shocked by them is really limiting your experience of them. The piss has meaning Paintme and it is integral to the work. He did that for a reason and most people would it very confronting and disrespectful. I am sure the artist was fully aware of that and what affect his work would have. His intention was to shock in order to make his statement which unless he tells me what his point is I don't know what it would be. At the end of the day would anybody even know about that work if it was coloured water? What makes it so great or meaningful?
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't pretend that I understand a lot of contemporary art.....but what I do like is people who think and act outside of our society's usually very limiting and boring 'boundaries' / expectations, and who challenge those boundaries in whatever work it is that they do. Most people are so afraid to rock the boat in any way, just wanting to conform and blend in seamlessly, so those that do their own thing and dare to stand out get a thumbs up from me.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I watched a promo of "Vaginal Knitting" via SBS Online 28/11/2013 ! Not my "cup of tea", but hey, Governments have given Grants for "Regurgitation Of Milk As An Art Form" and "Ejaculation On Canvas Expresses The Inner Male". So, Why Not Her ?
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madotara69
12 years ago
I am not that crash hot on Quoting religion, though I do remember someone who thought they were. Isn't it a Christian belief, that we are gods creation and that god is all and everything within us? why couldn't an artist use a coloured liquid for the effect "ethereal" by using piss. Christ suspended in a liquid that is "god in its self" ? It could have been the artist expressing respect, if viewed that way. (coloured water Blasphemy) But I am not sure if I am right with what god is supposed to be. Sometimes I have said God I have to have a piss, I don't recall puting any meanings with it, just that it felt good to finally have one. I would have thanked god for that, personally! Just another way of looking at something. And I haven't even seen it. Don't know "what" you are talking about. Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
I do it all the time perfectly normal... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
It is a delicious irony that that to accuse someone of having a closed mind often means the accuser is being closed minded on the opinion of another. ;-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Bravo to Casey! I don't particularly enjoy modern art and a lot of it may be pretentious, as Meeka wrote earlier, but i love the fact that there are creative people and tribes in our species that push the boundaries and push the establishment and create... these people are the yeast of our society. Im sure many Renaissance artists would have been thought of as revolting and disgusting or just weird by conservative at the times... but now we think of them as progressives and geniuses... art is one way of reflecting our intellectual evolution. I fix dirty trucks and machinery for a living and i sweat and bleed and burn for every dollar i earn, and while i do resent arty farty people that don't work as hard as i do and problem solve as much as i do... i love them being there to push and propel us all (especially me) into a more open minded future. And one more thing...to me, menstrual blood is one of the divine essences of a woman's body...the taste and smell is so raw and human and sexual... and i don't think there is anything "ick" or "eww" about it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
What you need to ask yourself is, "what is an artists job?" This question has different answers based on the artists choice of subject, theme and art-making process. Although essentially every artist is reflection of their time and place. In this context the artist is using a public performance to communicate a message. The sole purpose of this form of art is to get a reaction and to yell the message as opposed to sticking within the boundaries and avoiding confrontation. This idea is seen through the notion of sometimes you need to yell something, for someone to listen. The term shock value cheapens the artwork and what the artist has achieved. You are meant to feel uncomfortable seeing the art piece, but you are then meant to reflect as to why those emotions even exist.
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RHP User
12 years ago
and it is the artists job (in this type of art) to do it in a way that complete it's objective whilst leaving a long-lasting memory in your brain. For you to talk about, share on facebook or post a thread about on RHP.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am open to your opinion. Absolutely. But I do believe that it is an uneducated one.
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RHP User
12 years ago
means that her work is successful. Sometimes the art is in the dialogue it creates. I have a great book on Conceptual Art if anyone wants to read it. It gives me a brain orgasm when I read it.
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platinumblonde69
12 years ago
When I saw the video I initially was captivated by the concept, but then when the menstrual cycle was explained it kind of lost my interest. I found that part way over the top. Although in saying that, being a female who loved sex during her cycle, perhaps the feel of the wool might have been very soothing and comforting. But in same breath, not sure its for the world to see. But, each to their own. Plat
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RHP User
12 years ago
Wouldn't it get a bit itchy after a while?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Not ewwww, not ick, Just disgusting.Dont do something disgusting and call it art, and force the general public to accept it.What someone might consider art someone else considers disgusting.I havent seen any art exhibits recently featuring lamp shades made out of human skin.I dont know what the government here allows tax dollars to be spent on, but in the states, we have the 'national endowment of the arts', which is federally funded, and some artists are PAID with American tax money to do some REALLY sick stuff.It is not that we are prudish or somehow backwards, but it is the fact that our tax dollars are spent on something we hate and do not approve of.If you want to do something bent and twisted and call it art, fine.dont force me to see it, pay my tax dollars to fund it, or support it in any way.Some things should be just kept quiet and PRIVATE.This forum is primarily a forum involving S E X and possibly some weird taboos, but this is the appropriate place to discuss it, and even I have been banned here once for saying something that was 'inappropriate'.Someone got offended by a comment I made and turned me in to the thought police.How you can get banned for saying something vile here is beyond me.
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Daretodive
12 years ago
Mr DtoD says . . Maybe some artists without any real talent have to constantly think up new and ridiculous ways to keep themselves from getting a real job and contributing in a meaningful way to society . . . No need for me to duck now, I`ve got broad shoulders
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RHP User
12 years ago
Your profile pic is pure art... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is it's as paintme has said....the conversation, the thoughts it provokes. Art is like poetry. Interpreted by everyone differently. It can be an artists statement. It can be representative or it can be a way to tell their own personal journey, much like tattoos on some people all represent an event. But one thing is for certain......it means something different to us all. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
@daretodive your response says a lot about how much you know about art history. Which is cool - but not the most educated response. Artists are everywhere - not just in galleries. They are communicators to an audience, an artist is not successful without an audience. And an audience is something that gives you the power to influence and contribute to society. And these people need to exist. Do you have an audience Or do you listen to someone else?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'yankmychain56' Not ewwww, not ick, Just disgusting.Dont do something disgusting and call it art, and force the general public to accept it.What someone might consider art someone else considers disgusting.I havent seen any art exhibits recently featuring lamp shades made out of human skin.I dont know what the government here allows tax dollars to be spent on, but in the states, we have the 'national endowment of the arts', which is federally funded, and some artists are PAID with American tax money to do some REALLY sick stuff.It is not that we are prudish or somehow backwards, but it is the fact that our tax dollars are spent on something we hate and do not approve of.If you want to do something bent and twisted and call it art, fine.dont force me to see it, pay my tax dollars to fund it, or support it in any way.Some things should be just kept quiet and PRIVATE.This forum is primarily a forum involving S E X and possibly some weird taboos, but this is the appropriate place to discuss it, and even I have been banned here once for saying something that was 'inappropriate'.Someone got offended by a comment I made and turned me in to the thought police.How you can get banned for saying something vile here is beyond me. It always amuses me when people get all up in arms about 'their' tax dollars being used for something they personally don't agree with. And nobody is forcing you to like, see, or support anything. You also can't speak for all the people in your country, as to what they do or don't like or approve of.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' Your profile pic is pure art... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... You beat me to it, lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
The girl is nothing more than an idiotic attention seeker...! Hey I might try anal knitting and call myself a performing artist....lol
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Daretodive
12 years ago
Sorry if you don't agree with my not the most educated response slickz . Each to their own. I`ll admit I know nothing about art history, don't want to either. I`ve worked my arse off since I left school at 17, not spent my life wandering around trying to decide who I am or what I want to do living off the taxpayer and justifying it by calling it art. Not gunna post again on this topic, off to enjoy the fruits of my labour ;-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
A usual the discussion here has been a joy to read. It has stirred up passions and resulted in name calling and bought out the best and the worst. Bugger the "Vaginal Knitting", this discussion on what constitutes art has been art its-self. I think that Mesmerised can consider herself an artist...... she had a subject, she put it out there to an audience. I think she has achieved what she want; to challenge the audience to consider what is art and what is not (in each person's mind). To do this she needed something that was controversial.... well done I say. The "Vaginal Knitting" has sort of become a side line referred to occassionally.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I seen this On a show called tosh.0 on Fox. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Playful2looking
12 years ago
Political art to shock and change society is good as long as we don't get desensitise to it. photographs taken in battle of the victims of war brings it to our door step hopefully this will result in change. Art work that makes you think and gives you a positive or negative feeling to me is good. Now I am not grossed out by Ms Jenkins work and she has valid points.Although I do find it strange that some female artist either comedians or writers and some journalist in my opinion seem to focus on their reproductive organs. I guess its a self discovering process or liberating thing for them. as these things have not been openly discussed with women. Us guys need our liberation as well so now I am going to sit in an art gallery and wank. I will call it performance art. I will try to ejaculate in a pleasing shape on canvas to see if I can sell my ejaculated paintings.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'BradBi'I think that Mesmerised can consider herself an artist...... she had a subject, she put it out there to an audience. I think she has achieved what she want; to challenge the audience to consider what is art and what is not (in each person's mind). To do this she needed something that was controversial.... well done I say. That's what I meant to do al along. No, really. a̴̹̰̟̮̯̞̯͖̲̐ͩ͌̾͠, The artist formerly known as Mes.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I understand that there is art for the masses (so bogans like me can appreciate it) and art for the intellectuals who clearly are unfettered by reality and good taste. But sweet Jesus this is just off. If this artist wants to pussy knit go mad, let her fill her boots. If she thinks that the great unwashed will take anything away from it other than a confused look she's dreaming!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'paint_me' means that her work is successful. Sometimes the art is in the dialogue it creates. In 10 years no one, except for the 'aficionados' will know her or this 'artwork'. All it has done is bring up the discussion of 'What is art and what is attention seeking'. I won't enter my opinion on this piece but I have been very disappointed some of the comments on this topic though. They made the author look 'close minded' and 'uneducated'.
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madotara69
12 years ago
I was sure you were talking gangster talk then Fun. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think I flushed a god damned masterpiece thismorning. lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' I think I flushed a god damned masterpiece thismorning. lol of it first? I'm sure you thought that it didn't stink.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Funlover71' Quoting 'paint_me' means that her work is successful. Sometimes the art is in the dialogue it creates. In 10 years no one, except for the 'aficionados' will know her or this 'artwork'. All it has done is bring up the discussion of 'What is art and what is attention seeking'. I won't enter my opinion on this piece but I have been very disappointed some of the comments on this topic though. They made the author look 'close minded' and 'uneducated'.
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RHP User
12 years ago
From the responses ,I am sure a piece could be made and called...Sew Many Knickers in Knots
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