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What do women want?

June 02 2019

I came across incels (see below). Are there any incels for women? I understand women biologically programmed to be choosy like many other female species! Men have to be resourceful and good provider. Are there women that are so frustrated as some men who cant find sexual partner? Incels are members of an online subculture[1][2] who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one, a state they describe as inceldom.[3] Self-identified incels are largely white and are almost exclusively male heterosexuals.[4][5][6][7][8][9] The term is a portmanteau of "involuntary celibates".[1] Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment, misanthropy,[1] self-pity,[10] self-loathing,[11] misogyny,[12] racism,[12] a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people. - Posted from rhpmobile

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EarthQueen

7 years ago

I guess women could be involuntary celibates for lack of personal choice but it's not like most women couldn't get sex if they wanted to. Most women could get sex if we are looking at it that basically. But it's not on the same level as the male incel. Having said that I'm sure there are women harbour hatred of men for whatever reason and there would be a place for them on the internet, but I haven't come across it. I haven't looked for it either though. If women aren't in a sexual relationship they may still feel despair about not having it, but I think it comes out as sadness rather than the vitriol you see in male incels. Also if they aren't in a sexual relationship they often still foster social and friendship relationships with other women. So in general, I think women are able to fill up their cup in other ways. I guess the incel movement in general is formed by rage born of deep loneliness and rejection. It's really fucked up, but I can see how it's gained traction among men. You find a whole group of other people that feel pissed off by life and you bond with them. It fills some sort of social need that was missing and you feel kinship with these other people. Society values certain things and our views as a culture are formed by them. Certain people have more social and sexual currency. It's not fair, but there it is.

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RHP User

7 years ago

Lamers who don't have the balls to talk to a woman, then blame the woman for not fulfilling their desires!

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RHP User

7 years ago

If something such as a female incel existed, I reckon they'd post on RHP forums. I recognise that discussion topic list.

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RHP User

7 years ago

I agree. I havent seen the described behaviour in women on here....but have come across it with guys. Their bitterness making sure that they wont get their desired company of females. Ive read outbursts in messages from frustrated males, usually attached, blaming the women on the site for being too up themselves or sluts. They sound unhappy with their lives and are projecting it on the women. I feel sorry for people when they are that unhappy that it turns to bitterness. We are lucky as women to be able to have some choice on here and be able to actually meet others.

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RHP User

7 years ago

*Watching this thread with great interest*I negotiated a sex life and never looked back.

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RHP User

7 years ago

You aways sound happy, rational and upbeat with no traces of bitterness whatsoever. And.....we have actually met :)

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countrytouch82

7 years ago

But I found the Wikipedia article from which much of this text comes from. Curiously the original "incel" or involuntary celibate/celibacy was meant to be simply a support community for those who really needed it, for many different reasons, and later the type and attitude of people using the term has changed to be much more inflammatory. The original creator was Alana, a woman. I was technically an "incel" until my 30s, but my attitudes to women are and have always been positive. I never came across this term even though I did Google discussions about older virginity etc. But yes there were certainly women too in this category. The coping mechanism for women has been said above. For men that don't turn to hate, our coping mechanism is somewhat similar but generally has to divert our passions and attentions to friendships and even our work and private interest projects, hobbies etc. Not to the extent though that the "40 Year Old Virgin" movie portrayed it... On the flip side a similar situation of "incel" would be experienced by those in sexless marriages, and who still do not resort to cheating or anything on the side. Those with certain disabilities and impairments also may qualify.

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RHP User

7 years ago

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RHP User

7 years ago

Sexless marriage is quite a common phenomenon, some people deal with it better than others.

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RHP User

7 years ago

Although they are seeking a relationship, love, commitment, family AND sex. They are angry, bitter and often like to blame others. Like their male counterparts, their attitude is preventing them from finding what they need. Maybe if the men would consider a relationship and not just sex both parties would get what they need and no longer need to be angry or bitter.

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RHP User

7 years ago

I've been on this site a number of times over the years and this is probably one of the most discussed topics in the forums. I never realised how difficult it is to actually meet someone on these sites and a person doesn't realise it until after they have joined. Most sites incorrectly give the impression that it is easy to meet people for sex, and it is with this anticipation that men join these sites and get easily frustrated when women don't respond positively to their advances. It is very childish and immature to get angry and abusive and it only discourages women from replying at all which makes men more angry. I have no time for these losers as it is disrespectful and rude. If a man finds it difficult to meet women privately, I encourage them to attend some of the events that are advertised on the site. You will have more success there, I certainly did.

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RHP User

6 years ago

The reality is that a man with poor social skills will have significantly more difficulty to attract an average looking woman. But For a woman with same conditions is easier to go to a pub and find a suitable mating guy with lesser efforts!

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RHP User

6 years ago

Hi, I quess for myself it,s not a wont,, it comes down to what I would ...like...so far I think the goal posts are very far apart. not like on the footy field .my expreance of men comes down to 5 men over almost 4 years time spent with them and really is almost nothing. reason being men are not that interested in who I am. so I,ll blame myself as to why. the main detail I have learned is men wont sex , any thing more than that is a no no. I,m on an other forum called... Show It Off... well and that has been an eye opening for myself ,,,Oh Wow,,, from that I see where I fail, I,m not so keen to show myself off and very hesitaint in going up to guys and asking would you be interested in play time , and with that being rejected, at meetup,s I have tried talking to guys and was ignored and guys just did not wont to talk with me, they wont a sexy looking hot chic, maybe there are some who are at my age, and very experanced, so being a unicorn you are pretty much left alone , yes I know men would not desire me or would ask me , also men have their idear,s of what they are looking for , and I don't blame them , It sure has been a learning curve , One detail is I have lots of friends = women, and plenty to do so any thing sexual is just put aside, ...noeleena...

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