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Women's expectations - are they too high?

August 24 2013

I have just read a woman's comment about her past sexual partners and how there haven't been many memorable people in her sex life so far. This isn't the first time I have read this comment from a woman and it won't be the last, and indeed I agree with it, as it mirrors my own view. I am aware that it takes two to tango but I was wondering........................ are women's expectations when it comes to sex too high? Should we be treating sex as just a bit of sexual relief? You know, a bit of fun at the time, or bit like a spin class, it's fun, it's good for you, you need to do it, it's invigorating at the time but you forget about it and the person an hour later. Is sex with most people forgettable? Obviously when the chemistry is explosive the sex is fabulous, but for me this is rare. Am I the only one?For those of you who know me, I don't take sex seriously and I do enjoy having debaucherous fun. No question. But my philosophy has always been, "if you can take it or leave it, you may as well leave it." But am I missing out on some good sex because of this? But the truth is, I want fantastic sex which can only come from having a great connection and chemistry with someone. Or maybe I should really just take up drinking. Do men feel this way too? So are women's expectations too high..... or should I say, are my expectations too high when it comes to sex?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    or women's expectations in general however I know what mine are. Refill that shot glass please

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I think that how much you enjoy sex is mostly up to you. Sex can be ok, good, great, mind-blowing and all with the same person. Pretty much everything in life is a package and one can not simply keep the good and discard the not so good. C'est la vie :)

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    This is simply an open-ended question. It's just like asking 'how long is a piece of string'. There are just too many variables in the equation to be answered in a simple yes/no format. Firstly, it will depend on what each person is looking to get out of the experience, and you'll never know that unless you both talk to each other beforehand. Also, in the grand scheme of things, is how each person has been bought up to view a sexual experience. As per previous topic on 'Jack Rabbits', there are also others who prefer the long, sensual type of lovemaking. It further depends on the type of relationship you actually have with the other person. Is it someone you just met - or is it someone you have known for a good time and got to know one another well ? Time period, do you only realistically only have time for a 'quickie', or is there time to relax ? Is one person slightly ill or off -colour that the other isn't aware of ?   Chemistry as you've put forward actually is quite rare, particularly in situations like this because you are not really looking for a permanent arrangement. If you were, you would do more homework to check your compatibility with one another. But if you're simply looking for an endless supply of sex, you aren't really bothered with the more intricate details - hence the possibilities for lack of chemistry. Are you possibly missing out on good sex - quite probably. But that is because we are all individuals, and we all behave differently, and no-one knows everyone else on the planet and therefore does not know who may be the more compatible for their unique needs, and might see things similarly to yourself.   I don't think your expectations / wishes / desires are too high Meeka, it really is a matter of finding someone who fits in with your expectations within a relatively small sample size of members. And that may take some time. I don't want to put you to sleep with more, but I hope you get the drift.   Tall

  • Smilingwithfun

    Smilingwithfun

    12 years ago

    I have read your profile. You find one on one & threesomes to intimate. Prefer group sex. Perhaps the answer lies there. Unless you can fully let go then how can you experience the ultimate?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    After a long and unhappy marraige where sexually you learnt to fullfill your own needs discovering Sex again was interesting there were some amazing mind blowing sessions with FB's some you definately wanted to meet up with just casually but again. Recently though I learnt the other kind the one where because that person was special just waiting for his touch was enough and the sex didnt have to be mind blowing to be great. It just felt satisfying.I dont think men feel the same........often sex to men becomes like an itch they want to scratch which often leads to the boredom in marraiges. They have an urge and want it.....they forget the foreplay kissing and loving. Men as we know from other posts do this to....Cum an Conquer.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have never said that! You are getting me confused with Paintme or are you talking to Paintme? I do enjoy group sex... But I have nothing against one in one sex at all!!! I have said in the past that I don't totally let go during group sex when I don't know all the people. That's a bit different.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    More than a handful and less than mumble mumble 25.......... but I remember all of them..........about 70% one off encounters, 25% several performances and the rest long term . About 5 I consider not very special, the rest were good and Id definitely go there again..........and usually the more repeats the better the sex gets

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    A lot of people are uncommunicating animals in bed. I won't go on.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Both sides are equaly bad. But as any good slut knows the diamonds are worth the tons of ore you must go through. And if you do not want to try the field nor can discern diamond from glass sex will forever be a bore. Best of luck boys and girls and kisses to my fellow sluts. Strange how the hungrest are the most satisfied. Bite me rhp mobile. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I haven't really been with many women with overly high expectations in regards to sex, but I have found the high demands come in other areas of life. Most of the blokes I know who are in relationships don't have many expectations at all, but who really knows what happens in a relationship other than the two parties involved.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    How are u?- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I don't think your expectations are too high Meeka. Personally I see nothing wrong with wanting fantastic sex, I think that is something we all want. One of your comments did spark a thought though. Perhaps some people take a slightly different approach to finding it? When given the choice of take it or leave it, perhaps one of the reasons (and perhaps men in particular) that some people seem to drift so readily from one sexual partner to the next is that they are taking the opposite approach? Diving in and hoping it may just turn into something fantastic. I may have to ponder o that a little.Fantastic sex does always seem to stem from great chemistry and when you add connection to that it seems to just get better.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    There is this bi-sexual orgy that I have been to a few times, and at this party there is this lovely woman who loves being gang banged. It's her thing & it excites her enormously. Now the last party I was at I think she spent three hours on this bean bag cushion thing on the floor while guy after guy fucked her. For three hours! And she was having orgasm after orgasm. I walked past at the end of the evening and my god! She looked like some alien demon, all the veins were popping, her eyes were popping out of her head, she was groaning loudly and it was like she hardly knew where he was any more. They had to lift her up at the end because she couldn't stand. She had the biggest grin on her face ... She was enormously happy with her night. Now gang bangs are not my thing..... But how did she get to a place where sex with any random stranger was orgasmic like that? Is it because she views sex differently to me?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    As you have all mentioned, finding great chemistry with someone doesn't happen every day. Of course that's what makes it so fantastic when it does happen. So in the mean time, is good sex .... A reasonable thing for everyone to have? It's a bit of fun, you have a good time but not that memorable? Naturally we would all choose to have knock out sex all the time if we could! But for me personally, that usually happens when I know the person well and have good chemistry.... And maybe it comes back to the question of me holding part of myself back util I know someone well. Okay now I am horny for some wild sex... Rip clothes off, slam against the wall sex. :p

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Men don't have any expectations? You make men sound very simple. A cold beer, dinner on the table, a blow job then watch the footy and they are happy??? I do know what you mean though. Men seem to feel women want to change them.... But I think a lot of woman are just plain bored of same old same old.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    True! Although cant say the same for me... I talk a lot actually. I am not talking about bad sex... Just good sex. Like a spin class.... Enjoyable at the time but nothing really to distinguish it from any other spin class. Which is not necessarily a bad thing? I am not sure.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Well it's from my experience with mates and other blokes I work with and what they tell me. As far as my own personal experience in relationships, the only thing I demanded was respect...but there was way more demanded of me, hence the reason I'm single now.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Some are awful, some do the job near enough, and some set the standard of awesome that all the others have to live up to. You know what awesome feels like (including its many variations) and when you find yourself getting less than awesome, it's disappointing to say the least. As a massage therapist (yep, many lives and careers) I know that three things make the difference between an OK massage and an awesome one - solid skills, a genuine desire to serve the client, and the ability to hear and feel feedback from the client. When I massage my senses are on high alert and my fingertips are highly attuned to subtle signals from a client's body. I know when to go deeper, when to back off, when to spend more time somewhere. Surely sex is the same - even casual sex can e awesome if people have skills, care about the other, and are attuned to feedback? Assuming there was some chemistry to start with, of course. I've spent my life accepting OK sex and ordinary kissing, and always longing for something more powerful. After finding it, it's virtually impossible for me to go back to ordinary. But here's the thing - "great sex" can sometimes be average sex but a great, fun, loving, connected, honest, raw experience. Someone said earlier that the more encounters you have with someone the better it usually gets and I think that's mostly true, and it generally requires a willingness to connect with the whole person over time, not just find their hole and fuck it. Maybe my expectations are too high but I'm over feeling like I'm just a hole for some man to stick his cock into. I expect a man to have skills, to genuinely want to please me, and to be sensitive to my feedback. And I expect myself to offer the same. If we start with great chemistry and add these three things, surely it will be great.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My pov fwiw,I'm not real concerned about having dinner dished up for me, it's nice and appreciated but I can look after myself, as far as watching the footy - pass on that. Some men are afraid as you say of women wanting to change them, some need changing. If you run into someone you haven't seen for 15/20 years and think to yourself well they haven't changed, that's a bit sad really. Conversely there are a lot of both genders tired of the same old. Read from that what you will, if not happy move on

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    yes sometimes our fantasy {women} can take us to a place where we forget reality.And for everyone of us our particular drive to a this or that sex and fulfillment of sex is different. There is no one the same....and some give you this absolute mind blowing sex you dont even know why and others not...nothing wrong with this either.I for myself have found I am the best sexually when I connect mentally....I am not happy with the sex when I cant be happy all around...my body and soul...and this means it leaves me empty when I only have sex and fuck, doesn't matter I get a good orgasm at the end, there would be still something missing.For me the whole sex act is a play with a male, I call it being with him in a bubble only we know and play with this sensuality and sexuality in this bubble we greate for the time being.I want when we part to feel happy about us two what has just happened, not cold sex, swinging in this case would be cold sex to me.And as you said this women could stay up and she was drunk on sex.....thats fantastic for her she is right for this kind of sex.....I would not because I am a very intimate person and the sex for me is two people.So the realization of what makes you reach this point is an honesty with yourself.Not what is hip hope at the moment or whether anybody has a sex bucket list and you don't.I think I have found this level for me....so I now ask for it in my mind. Ohh Meeks not everyone who contacts me ispires me to bed with him. many dont and I am not unhappy about it. We have all so much to gain sexually when we start to see and act in our own unique ways...then suddenly the world explodes.Hope I made myself a bit clear, its not always easy for me to express it in writing.Love to you L

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    I think deep down you, and paintme do have something in common. Your expectations have no wish to hurt anyone, and you are very loyal to that. saying you are hot, is far from ordinary and has nothing to do with your looks.Mado

  • yankmychain56

    yankmychain56

    12 years ago

    I have had all kinds of fantasies of a woman with a perfect body, being a complete depraved slut to do my bidding.my personal whore.fantasy (most of the time)reality:You have to 'feel' your way around, and find someone who best matches your sexual disposition.Sometimes you meet up with someone who really 'yanks your chain', while other who you THOUGHT might be sexual dynamite turn out to be a real disappointment.I once participated in a three-way (rare) that I though would be through the roof which was so boring I couldnt wait to leave.just my thoughts

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    meeks and snuggles, yet again I find you 2 dropping the cat amongst the preverbial pidgeons. So allow me if I may to contribute of sorts lol. Again I aqgre with someone i think was the first post about length of string, there are far to many tangibles, and everyones attitudes are different. Are you looking at it from purely a sex only angle or the whole scenario for instance. If it's sex only well that one is going to be very hard to pull off awesome sex, as most people ideas are slightly different. Of what they think feels good, ie him licking 2 times then doing other stimulation would be perfect for one but nowehre near enough for someone else. But if your taking the whoel scenario into account thats a whole new ball park. (ring the pun bell) As if you have been being stimulated from all angles the actual act of sex mightnt be as hot but the feelings would far outway what you could have achieved from sex only. Im with you meeks in that I need somewhat a connection, could be sex with a friend for example, but I do need some connection. I've had avery boring sex life even tho I have a massive sex drive and fantasies etc, somehow all of my exes have been very vanilla, resulting in me having to hold back half of myself and in turn leading to resentment and then singldom every time lol. even tho as people they have been great. Now I've had sex with a couple of partners since being single, and purely look for someone that at least has a desire to try different things. To me fantasies and everything are far bettter off if shared with someone who I have a solid connection with rather than just picking up randoms. So looking at that girl you said at the gangbangs who is just in heaven I can understand that. I've alwasy anted to try 3sums and group but what exes couldnt understand is it would only be good to me, if they shared it seriously just going and hooking up with a whole group of randoms wopuld bore me senseless. Just my opinion and proberly wasn't said in an easily understood way as I often go off on tangents in my thoughts while trying to keep up typing lol

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    If you take up drinking, then maybe you won't notice too much about the sex anyway.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Everybody has a high expectation, male and female... we want it all, we want it now and we want it to be the best-est most awesome thing we've ever had/seen/experienced. I think it is human nature.Others having a high level of expectation is a good thing, it helps us better ourselves to meet those expectations but only if we are that kind of person and we are aware of those goals.What is a problem, internally for each of us, is the level of tolerance for those expectations not being fully met. Nothing in life is perfect, only some things are 'nearly perfect'... and often those things are fleeting.There are other threads about Jack Rabbits and Jackasses that echo the frustration you feel Meeka so you are not alone.I too have known disappointment in bed where I put a lot of effort in (the nail marks, torn sheets and howling dogs will testify to that) but I was left feeling completely unfulfilled.So yes, as a male of this species I too feel as you do... chemistry and connection leading to fantastic sex is something I yearn for and after many many years am still searching for that awesome spark that ignites the world and leaves the senses reeling.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I go for group sex unless there is an amazing connection. However, I have this thing that I am attracted to men that are slightly crazy for the amazing connection and these are the ones that turn into long term relationships which is how a perfectly sane girl (smile for the camera) lives an insane life. Anyone else find this?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    First of all the question is a bit loaded. It kind of insinuates that it is us men that are not living up to expectations of women. Expectations are entirely the responsibility of the beholder. If you want great sex then you need to find the partner or situation where you will get the outcome you want. Sometimes it takes an hour to find that, sometimes months. But I fully believe it is up to you, to ensure that your expectations are met. You also need to communicate to the person what your expectations are. I don't think there is such a thing as having too high an expectation but one should manage your own expectations. Is it unreasonable to expect super great sex with someone you have hardly talked to, just met? I'd say yes, is it impossible, no, but I think we become lazy and possibly expect results from situations where we have not ensured to get the outcome we want. I'm sure people will say, but he or she was a dud in bed. Well maybe that is because you hardly knew them or they were lying through their teeth, but if you really didn't know them, I think it is unreasonable to go into such a situation with high expectations. It is unfair both to yourself to expect something greater than the effort you have put in and unreasonable to put high expectations on someone without them being fully aware of what you want out of it. If however you have fully communicated got the chemistry and they fail to help you meet your own expectations. Well makes the decision quite easy. See you later!! But in the end if my expectations are not met, I don't look at the person I've met, I look inwards and question my expectations, were they reasonable or not?- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    and i am not interested in average sex either...I'd much rather go without...I believe you can only have amazing sex if you are really into the woman...in more ways than one ...sex is more than just good old banging and fucking, hell, you don't want her pussy to be really sore in the morning...errr...do you So while some women have me as a notch on their belt (sniff)...I do know that they have had an intense, erotic and intimate evening/night with me...and they'll always remember me with a smile on their faceS'nP

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Liebsterboy' First of all the question is a bit loaded. It kind of insinuates that it is us men that are not living up to expectations of women. Expectations are entirely the responsibility of the beholder. If you want great sex then you need to find the partner or situation where you will get the outcome you want. Not at all Liebsterboy, did I say it has anything to do with men? Let's face it, you could be with the most accomplished lover, man or woman, but if the chemistry isn't there is isn't ever going to be out of this world sex will it. It will be good sex but not the best sex you ever had. I reckon if you had a really special connection with someone the sex is fantastic, regardless of the experience of each person.I accept that I probably don't invest enough time in getting to know a person. But I still have to say, having really great chemistry still seems to be a rare thing for me. My question starts off saying that I have seen a number of women make this comment. That not many lovers were that memorable. So that doesn't have to be bad... it's just that they were not a standout, it was good but not great. The chemistry was not right.... and maybe that is okay. Good sex is good right? And great fantastic out of this world sex is probably great because it doesn't happen every day. So if I adopt this philosophy, that sex doesn't have to be out of this world all the time then maybe I would have more sex. That's cant be a bad thing. I am really rambling tonight....... sorry.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    I feel that it takes caring people to see past that, and respect the reasons for such. Being trusted enough to begin openining those closed doors is a chemistry to start with. To abuse that is to abuse expectations.It may well be rare, as it is becoming less that people care.Mado

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    So, have you finally succumbed to the drink after all ?   Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Ok on the upside there are many good replies and nothing I could really add. However one couple gave a clueless answer I will let figure that out. Last when some people ask a question why is it you get some reply with a joke as if that would help.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Ok Meeka I usually read posts but don't comment (always love yours btw) but this had me thinking....hard. Instant response is "must have chemistry". On deeper reflection realised chemistry doesn't always = great sex. Actually some real duds 😱Best sex has been with guys that love to please, thus reciprocated. Why do they love to please? I don't know! Has been those "out of my league" who want to impress. Recently someone way out of my age bracket (very young) but also those for whom I have no idea! Just seems they take enjoyment in it. ( not complaining 😏). Thing is I didn't know this going in. Some with great chemistry just (to quote a previous poster) "filling a hole". Confused? I sure am so will just have to keep giving it a go 😈

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    Just read thru' your comments and there is one thing that you are spot on. In particular you note "Best sex has been with guys that love to please, thus reciprocated. Why do they love to please?" That is indeed the question. As one of 'those guys' I will try to give you a little insight. Speaking purely from a personal perspective, but I'm sure others in the same boat will concur, is that it gives a great deal of enjoyment to see the lady being fulfilled with sexual desire and enjoyment. Seeing the motions, and hearing the moans and sighs, are all integral as they impart to the guy he's doing a good (great ?) job, which is in turn very pleasing to the guy and he is driven to a greater level of enjoyment himself. For the guy it's 'win- win' - she feels pleased because he's giving the girl what she desires, and because of this she will be more inclined to make sure the guy also enjoys himself.   How do you find such a guy ? Something I can't really advise you on. Can only say that it usually will be the guy you least expect. Quiet, doesn't 'blow his own horn', but when you're with them you'll understand there will probably be an undertone of sexual tension / excitement.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    No but me myself and I would love to buy you a drink of a few and discuss.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I will have to think about that some more. So you are saying you don't need good chemistry to have fantastic sex?Or are you saying that good chemistry plus the willingness of both parties to engage totally and please the other person is essential in having fantastic sex. Makes sense.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I have never said that! You are getting me confused with Paintme or are you talking to Paintme? I do enjoy group sex... But I have nothing against one in one sex at all!!! I have said in the past that I don't totally let go during group sex when I don't know all the people. That's a bit different. Its funny how you often say you do not have sex much, not with randoms or one night stands. but you do have group sex in swingers environment, so I would think those would be forgettable folk if you look at it that way. Letting go or not is really irrelevant as your having sex, same for women like me that tend to have lovers and lots of them but not in a swingers situation. Though I did a few weeks ago but it was me and a girlfriend and a guy that was there. was rather nice so I can see why you enjoy it so much.   the difference may be that one on one connection maybe does not float your boat unless your with a particular person that you care about, you enjoy it because your in his company. I am just making an assumption here so I could be wrong.   I don't have forgettable sex per say but I do tend not to keep a count nor even remember peoples names, sometimes I don't tell them mine as really would they give a shit anyway?   My needs are not emotional, but sometimes now and again, yes I keep those lovely guys in my memory , as long as I can as after all I am fading fast and will soon forget my own name but I will still smile every now and again   but fuck it I will not know why I am smiling as the old brain cells are already fading fast.   some sex I wish I could bloody forget, and I know some men wish they could forget they ever bonked me   I see them roaming the streets with a look of terror on their face   they say things like, ohhhh the horror the horror, some even pluck out their eyes and wash their cock and mouth with ajax

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'chevtrek' Ok on the upside there are many good replies and nothing I could really add. However one couple gave a clueless answer I will let figure that out. Last when some people ask a question why is it you get some reply with a joke as if that would help. I just cant help myself....sometimes I try to sit on my hands, but its just to hard to resist taking the piss ,mostly at myself Lady T, come tickle my funny bone

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    With someone who you are totally connected to is the most wonderful thing of all, and yet I have had the best orgasm of my life with a total stranger.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You are absolutely right. I go to the clubs with a few friends I know, I usually stick with them as well .. I don't actually have that much random sex. Yep, I am a good girl even in a swingers club sometimes. Which is why some of these women at the parties fascinate me. I would love to be like that..... Have fantastic sex with strangers, one after the other. You can see how much fun they are having. I am just not like that though, but I wish I was. It's like they are totally free. At the moment I do have sex with someone I am very connected too so I guess that has a big impact on when I meet other men. You know it LadyT!! Lol. When I do meet a man that can overshadow that... I will have to marry him!! :D

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Hi! Meeka :) I'm Inclined to agree with you to agree with most of what You said.. Now don't faint ha! ha! I'm very selective whom I choose as My Lover and I take time to Cultivate our Connection. There has to be a strong Connection between us. On My part even better if on all Levels Mind, Emotions, Body, Soul. I thoroughly Enjoy Sexual Encounters if the Ingredients are there as I just Mentioned it can be the Hot sizzling kind that blows our mind leaving us fulfilled and wanting more... I adore it when that happens. but to experience that Intensity same as you it's not a regular occurrence. although it's always great . . I don't care if I don't have Lovers Lined up at My Door. Their Interest is such that I can choose Quality over Quantity and I do.. Unlike you I do take Sexual Encounters seriously, because sharing Myself on every Level is very Precious to me and Sexual Intimacy is the Celebration of our Connection. Oh! it can be sooo much fun too but not just a Fuck fest even if a good one:) Cheers Lu :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I don't think it's a question of 'too high' but general ignorance on the part of both partners.   1. You only know what you know. I know a lady who was very sexually active from teens to thirties, jumped on anything in pants and said she enjoyed it. Her first orgasm was experienced with her current partner at 38....   2. My current regular playmate has much experience. She tells me, two men have the ability to get her off with regularlty about 100% of the time. Hubby, and me. A lot of others she has fun, sometimes it works, sometimes not. She is very familiar with me, trusts me, is totally open to me, and me to her.   If the trust isn't there, relaxtion isn't there, abandon isn't there - some people are adrenaline junkies and thrive on that and it gees them up so they can get off on rough sex with randoms. Others, just can't let go.   Three factors to me count: knowledge, experience, empathy. The most common complaint I've heard: men have no idea of a woman's body, what bits to do what to.   No two women I have met, like exactly the same thing, the same way. The mechanics might be familiar but how can be different. And sometimes, it takes some experimentation, sometimes they can't tell you themselves (because they do not know) what they like (or are too selfconscious). Hard soft, fast slow. I certainly don't claim to know it all. Always learning.   And the brain - not engaged, no way, Hose. Whole entire book/subject. Again - who knows their own mind? Some, not all.   So for a lot of people, it comes down to trial/error, luck of the draw. Or not. Sometimes, that winsome face/bicep bulge/bubble butt might just get them over the line. If you believe you must have a ten inch throbber, unlikely anything else will work.   To me 'tools of the trade' are listening to what is said and unsaid, becoming attuned to reading response like 'ow' as discinct from 'oooooh', not pusing things too fast, too far (said the actress to the bishop) and making the person you are with comfortable, or on the edge depening gon their preferrence.   No Pimer 101 for this, unfortunately.   TM

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I've found when I shift the focus of my attention from my own experience and expectations to those of whoever my partner is at the time that the quality of the sex is the best. Bit of a cliche I guess but like most things if we focus on our expectations our brains seem pretty much programmed to zero in on discontent. That critical thinking function can be really useful in avoiding negative experiences and situations but when it comes to things like sex it just gets in the way I think.I've found just immersing in the way the other person is responding paradoxically makes my own experience incredibly exciting.Geoff.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    And it was fantastic because of the mad chemistry and has left me wanting more and more and more... I can say that I have NEVER had a man sexually blow my mind away... Still waiting I suppose?

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I think, yes, MY expectations are too high.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I can attend to my own orgasm too... I like to assist the whole process and I am not shy in speaking up with what I like. But I can have an orgasm but still be disengaged and not totally focused on the man I am with.

  • Fantasyplus

    Fantasyplus

    12 years ago

    Tough question......I dont need chemistry to have an orgasm...yet only 2 men have made me squirt/gush when I cum.I do need to "click' with a guy or girl to be able to have fun and completely let go in the bedroom....I need to be able to trust him/her, if I let him/her take control, I need to be able to trust that when I say enough he/she knows to stop.If there is nothing there and I cant hold a conversation with you, it's not going to happen. Sex may be just sex to some, but to others it is more than just an act of release and having your needs satisfied. The same goes for "Making Love" and "Fucking"....to some people they are the same thing, to other's they are two completely separate things. I love a good hard fuck...but then there are times when I just want to be made love to (this is not something just any guy can do to me...Husband duties only!).Mrs Fantasy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have some expectations in the lady's I see :) but the most is that of a mutual connection:) much like the first kiss or even touch as they are the strongest signs of possible 4fillmeant ;) Maybe u look to deep into porn movies ?? Personally I don't watch porn as I get nothing from them and yes I am male ? Guess the biggest expectation is that of desire or rather mutual desire...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Sex is like a PIZZA..! When it's good , it's great , And when it's bad , It's still pretty good. An old girlfriend told me once. She would say the funniest shit sometimes. !- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You can not find that with just anyone Chemistry Passion & Connection = Intense Mind Blowing Sex To be yourselves 100% Comfortable & free I'm in a Relationship where I have this sure we keep it spicy Its fun is horny & passionate We see each other and want to ravish each other Sure we have things to work on in our relationship But WoW ... Sex is Explosive Be sure to have fun on your journey to finding this Good Luck all xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    we just had an excellent encounter with a guy tonight. we have had numerous guys 'wanting to meet up' but when the night comes they say "no, sorry not tonight it doesnt suit me, what about tomorrow night". Listen guys and listen carefully.. when a woman is hot she wants it then.. not tomorrow when you and you weird ego and common sense dictates YOU want it. If you dont learn this right now you will spend the rest of your life without a fuck and pulling your dick. and by the time you do finally learn that, you will be too old to do it anyway.. this is why all your mates are fucking the hot girls, this is why the girls dump you and fuck your mates, because YOU are a SLOWIE.. GOT IT?? when a woman is hot, bend her over and take her (as long as you get your rocks off she knows she achieved results and can come back to work on your performance.. whereas most guys want to do it their way, at their time, and 'get the big O' (they learnt it in a book).. the girl will have that at home whilst your still planning.. its called two genders.. we dont want too much, we are the vagina you cum inside off .. dont you get it.. you need us, so our expectations arent too high, your dick is too low..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Men always say womens expectations are too high because it usually means in my experience that they find women a challenge.... Most women want and this is just from my perspective to feel respected and sexuallly connected no matter what the activity and alot of men seem to find that difficult. This trend of emotionless sex no thanks... Not for me..id rather stay home and buy a dildo... My expectations are high and im proud of that why should I settle for 2nd . Im intelligent.articulate and love men and want my sexual partners to be happy and communicate with them.... Opinions on this topic??? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Chemistry = Lick under their armpits..Auditory= A dynamic when added causes Mind+Mind link. Freely communicating desire..Connection=Building bridges to explore together. Unlimited self expression..Booze= unpredictable behavior when inebriated. Moderate peptide lock + confidence..Being that, Upset = expectation not met. Lower expectations at times. Avoid mediocrity..Women deserve their freedom to be who they are. Men ought to encourage, not judge and be sexually insecure .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'mac1969'Sex is like a PIZZA..! When it's good , it's great , And when it's bad , It's still pretty good. I've never thrown pizza out of my bed.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "No one will ever be good enough for you, cause of your high expectations, fussiness and commitment phobia"...well I can't be anything but myself! Love me, love all my faults. Just because I can't just root anyone, does not mean I have high expectations...I just gotta like the person inside and out, have a connection. For me it really does happen that often...when it does- its beautiful! FOXY

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Bahahaha that is the funniest thing I've heard..... "You need us." - Posted from rhpmobile

  • sweetgem

    sweetgem

    12 years ago

    I don't think the term can be generalised or categorised, because everyone is different and we all have different likes and dislikes. However, whatever I say below, I am only speaking for myself. For me, I don't expect a lot from my partner (and I mean a partner of a committed relationship) when it comes to sex, I value the emotional connection between him and I more than physical. I have had Asian and westerner partners in my past relationships, not all Asian men were small like the majority of the world think/believe, nor all my westerner partners were big and skilled. But I overlooked those physical matters, because how they treated me was more important to me.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Take up drinking! You open a bottle with little expectations, make the journey through it and you know what to expect. Fun on the night, fuzzy memories of the experience and a hangover the next day. Was it memorable, maybe. But most of us would certainly do it again.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    no, you are correct, some of you gays need other men, but for the heteros... you need women (try breeding with two males, or try getting anything but a prostitute with an attitude 'you dont need women'.. good luck (you'll need 'a lot') .. Reminds me of the joke about the husband to his wife on their wedding night, when he takes of his trousers and throws them to his bride and says "here see if you can fit into these". She replies, "I will never be able to wear them", to which he replies, "thats right, so dont forget who wears the pants int his family"... as they slip into bed she takes of her g string and throws it to him saying "here, get into these".. he looks at her and says "dont be silly I will never get into those", to which she retorts, "thats right and you never will if you dont change your attitude"..Losers always complain women have high expectations because they actually have made adjustments for themselves in existence, they have found comfort in their own inadequacies and cannot accept they must change themselves before they change the world - or get a successful sub, mistress, string of lovers and sexy cunts as their partners.. simple? ("not for a lot" of people)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have thoroughly enjoyed 98 percent of my meets the other 2 percent were abhorrent. What I haven't enjoyed is the way the men have. Treated me as a person the nagging, lying and sheer fakery to get what t hey want when they didn't have too. But I've learnt to separate the sex from the person.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Meeks you are wanting to be fucked. Then be fucked enjoy the moment for as long as your stuck in it, no pun intended, I know when I fuck I fuck you, this is for my pleasure, this is the fuck me attitude you have to take, you alone create your most positive thoughts. Then there is Love Making, this is an ongoing phase you get past the fuck me stage and create sensual unadulterated chemistry. "Sometimes the 1st bite doesn't seem to taste right". Rotten apple maybe discard, not worth another bite of the "cherry" So's until u find that forbidden fruit of the forest, I say fuck for all your worth, no expectations just your own limitations. Or to be fucked. Fucking Happy!! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • canberrahot

    canberrahot

    12 years ago

    "women's expectations when it comes to sex too high?"I think some are. Some expect perfection each and every time. But, often those women have alot of men to choose from making easier to find someone suitable to them. Most women like to have repeat performances and enjoy company outside the sex. The sex might be average but they like the person and everything else so they continue. But, then it must be said some men are only in it to come and don't want to put in the hard work and all the foreplay, massages etc to ensure the woman is happy and wants to come back and enjoy over and over."Should we be treating sex as just a bit of sexual relief ? You know, a bit of fun at the time, or bit like a spin class, it's fun, it's good for you, you need to do it, it's invigorating at the time but you forget about it and the person an hour later. Is sex with most people forgettable? "Well I guess some do that. Alot, prefer to get more intimate and more mentally invested. That said it's always lots of fun to start with when you first meet someone. I guess its up to the individual how they feel the experiences they have had and if they can seperate the love from the sex.I have seen some women just treat it like a spin class and find several different men and not get to invested in the feelings thing and instead just enjoy the sex and I guess that their choice.Seen, a lot of men decide to take up drinking instead and a lot of women for that matter as it's all to complicated !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    HA..! Good one.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Yep my expectations are high because I don't want a quick fuck or to be fucked or to be spoken of in that term.Fuck that! FFS! When are men going to learn that a women's brain is where it starts and not the vagina!Make love to our brains first - then the beauty of awesome sex comes..And "some" men wonder why women are fussy buggers!They are quick to turn it around on women, when they have no idea the BRAIN is the first thing to stimulate.MIND, BODY and SOUL as they say.Foxy

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'SUPERFOXXY' Yep my expectations are high because I don't want a quick fuck or to be fucked or to be spoken of in that term.Fuck that! FFS! When are men going to learn that a women's brain is where it starts and not the vagina!Make love to our brains first - then the beauty of awesome sex comes..And "some" men wonder why women are fussy buggers!They are quick to turn it around on women, when they have no idea the BRAIN is the first thing to stimulate.MIND, BODY and SOUL as they say.FoxyThere is someone who understands the command of 'mind, body and soul' ... why are you so far away (sigh)... Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Ok Meeka. You have really raised an issue here. No, I didn't mean you need great chemistry to have great sex. How did I find this? Meet someone, think yes no there's nothing there. No chemistry. Then as we say goodbye there's a touch, a kiss a "you're coming home with me" & wow - there's fireworks! Alternatively, great chemistry, "wow I could spend my life with you", get home, nothing, zilch. Lets not forget the "you're really nice", go home, it's comfortable, lots of hugs & affection, comfortable sex, may develop into "great sex" with familiarity biut in the meantime get something every human needs - physical contact. You have starts something here Meeka. Don't know if my partners appreciate it, especially when I call time out to ask "why do you want to please me so much ?" The research comtimtues ......😊- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Often wondered about males desire to please. Recently due to research wondered if its because of males time delay in realising personal pleasur😉- Posted from rhpmobile

  • Playful2looking

    Playful2looking

    12 years ago

    Oh the battle of the sexes. I think I'll take up drinking. I dont think there is such a thing as the perfect fuck or the best partner in the world. Just various shades of. Yes some guys and girls really suck at it. My limited experience tells me that there are people who like to fuck the opposite sex But dont like them. For example I haves seen guys who want women for one thing but would rather hang around their mates. Men who hang around the esky talking crap while the girls are in another corner talking about something else. They only seem to get together for sex which then is usually unsatifiy for both. of course there are some girls who see men only for similar reasons for sex or stepping stones for their careers; but not as companions. I think to have good sex you actually have to enjoy the company of the opposite sex. not just go to them when your horny.

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'legseleven11'Often wondered about males desire to please. Recently due to research wondered if its because of males time delay in realising personal pleasur😉- Posted from rhpmobile As you'll no doubt be aware, too many guys actually are the reverse of what you suggest, in that they don't want to delay their personal pleasure. They just want to get in and unload before the girl thinks about it and changes her mind, not bothering to think about the girls pleasures at all. Fear and / or short-sighted. The guys that "love to please" look at the situation completely differently - there is a different plan of attack, so to speak. They will take the time to explore and find out what pleases you, and generally give you more than you bargained for. They still have the same desires as the other guys, but they can control their impulses to include you in the equation, and will make a consciencious effort to make sure you are very happy and fulfilled as part of the total experience. The "sights and sounds" of a girl who is thoroughly immersed in the motions of a beautiful sexual moment are very rewarding to us guys that love to please, and actually encourages more of the same. The more you enjoy yourself, the more we do ! Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    that for me, my expectations are often formed from past sexual experience. It makes it extremely hard when you have had mind blowing sex with someone that you have a great connection with.   You may then find the following encounters just don't measure up . But had you not had that "mindblowing" sex you would probably would have thought the other sex not too bad!!