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Wondering why different substances are frowned upon?
January 28 2013
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RHP User
13 years ago
that when you say "substances", you mean so-called "recreational" drugs?That being the case, personally, they've never interested me. Which is not to say I haven't experimented in my distant youth.....I just didn't enjoy the way they made me feel.These days, in my profession, I'm required to subject myself to random testing - both for alcohol and other things. Alcohol is easy enough to manage - I rarely drink, and even more rarely drink to excess - but other substances quite frankly scare me. So I choose to distance myself as far away as possible from them, to the point where I won't be around anybody using them.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Because having worked as a counselor in drug and alcohol counselling and watched way to many people play chicken with not just their lives but other peoples (and I mean this personally not just professionally) drug users disgust me, that simple really.I know people who cant do certain sexual things without drugs... and quite frankly that concerns me, if you are not comfortable doing it sober why the hell use drugs to do it? I am sorry if I sound harsh but its the honest truth, I work with the damage of drug use day in and out and I do not want it in my social life, and if people think they dont "seem" drug affected I assure you I pick it up 99% of the time and its an instant turn off. and recreational use, particularly of some substances has immediate damaging effect and I cant imagine why anyone would want to take such chances with their lives
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RHP User
13 years ago
Just as you both choose to use drugs .. other have the choice to have nothing to do with people that do use it! You will have certain people that you wouldn't have sex with so why are you perplexed when people don't want to be around people who use? Recreational or a habit, I wouldn't go near anyone that touches drugs! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
13 years ago
a) fear of 'needle' drugs - the phrase "drug and disease free" in personals, as I understand it, developed at a time where shared needle use was a dangerous vector for certain diseases, particularly HIVb) disrespectful - nobody wants their date to turn up drunk, or stoned, or buzzing etc. - it's not so much fun being the 'straight man' when other people are under the influence c) a belief that drugs dull the senses and makes sex less enjoyable (There was a thread a while back where a majority said they didn't like to have drunk sex. I wrote a passionate defense of drunk, sloppy, terrible sex!) <3d) various beliefs about 'drug users', like that they're irresponsible, risk takers, unreliable, are going to steal your VHS etc. (ie. the "that Trainspotting was a real wake-up call" mob.)I don't agree with much of that, but respect that it's a personal thing. In the immortal words of the sadly too mortal Mitch Hedberg: "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
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RHP User
13 years ago
Can you please explain exactly what you mean by "use of substances"...??? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I hate the fking Eagles man,...what was the question
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RHP User
13 years ago
That's all I have to say.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'flimac' Because having worked as a counselor in drug and alcohol counselling and watched way to many people play chicken with not just their lives but other peoples (and I mean this personally not just professionally) drug users disgust me, that simple really.Unbelievable. What a completely inappropriate comment to make while identifying as a "professional" in AOD counselling. If you had left that fallacious appeal to your own authority out of your comment I likely wouldn't have responded, individual people can say that drug users "disgust" them if they really want. Professionals in that sort of role are ethically obliged not to have and express that sort of prejudice. If you were my counsellor I'd be able to sense your judgement and disapproval and you'd do more harm than good.Consider a radical attitude change or, more reasonably, a career change. At the very least don't claim to represent the profession when you make statements like that. You bring the whole sector into disrepute and, even worse, would make already-reticent people about to ask for help reconsider.For anyone else reading, please be reassured that people who use drugs don't immediately disgust all of the people who are paid to give them a listening ear and assistance. Most workers have relevant qualifications and are competent.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Your right I didn't phrase that well at all, people who don't think drugs are damaging and have a complete lack of understanding about the harm they do are the ones that I dislike, I am very sorry the way that what I wrote came out because it wasn't meant how it in hindsight reads. I have nothing but respect for those who seek out help, and I do point out im no longer in that field at all because it burnt me out well and truly!! So I'm not "representing" the sector at all but it does colour my acceptance of drug use now. I will help friends who choose to take that path - but if I'm honest I'm not going to stick around in that friendship if they continue that behaviour. What I'm trying to say is that I choose not to have contact in my private life with drug users because that is not a lifestyle I can ever condone or find attractive - not that they are less worthy people. And you would be surprised that I'm actually far from judgemental and disapproving but you know what, I knock off work and am allowed my own opinions about who I have sex with!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Me thinks you should come clean and tell us what substance you meen....... If you like weed, hooch, gunja lots more names they go under then you better do some growing up and very quick.... It mite be called a recreational drug but I have seen a lot of mates and friends end up in the ground......... We had a so call couple who did recreational drug (pot) till he change one day with in seconds from being a happy guy to a very angry and nasty person, we told the could to not come back and thats why we have on our profile NO DRUGS and this means RECREATIONAL DRUGS as well......... Sex is far better if you are druge and alcohol free, you enjoy it much better you should try this... GT (No drugs)
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RHP User
13 years ago
This scene is rife with recreational drug users , I find it sad and a little disturbing to watch 40+ year old men and women off their head on ecstasy or coke or ghb . One party we went to the women were all dressed as school girls ( 35-50 year olds) taking ghb balloons and dancing alone like wils video vixens - the scene was quite confronting ( put me off school themes for life !!) I find it almost juvenile and off putting to see mature people in that state. Nothing worse than fucking someone who's head is somewhere else . If the entire room is on drugs and you are not, the night is a complete downer as their party is in their heads and you are present. ...recreational drugs are a no from us, though we do have friends that dabble , they know and respect our stance on them .
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RHP User
13 years ago
Want to do with their lives, but I don't want to be around it anymore. That being said I don't really want to be around someone that regularly overdrinks either, in fact alcohol causes way more problems than most of these recreational drugs, but it's socially acceptable even though pretty much every study puts it top of the most dangerous drugs list. I do find it funny that people who are usually the most anti-drugs are quite happy to get blind drunk.
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astewie
13 years ago
Never done drugs and not about to start. Wait, caffeine is a drug...
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RHP User
13 years ago
Some of the comments on here seem to put all drugs and their users in the same category and I have to say there are lots of differences; you simply cannot put all drugs and all users in the same category. There is a major difference between someone smoking a joint and someone injecting heroin and a rec user and an addict. Can I say, to 'flimac' - are you really a counsellor? Your comments strike me as someone who has no tolerance or understanding for people who are suffering from drug and alcohol addiction. To be a counsellor in this field should you not have tolerance and understanding? As an occasional recreational taker of some rec drugs I can say that both my partner and I have amazing hot sex without drugs, there is nothing wrong in the bedroom what so ever, in fact it gets better and better, we do not dabble in drugs because we are having issues in the bedroom. We do however; enjoy heightening our sexual pleasure in a different way sometimes by using some rec drugs. This does not make us dirty and this does not make us incoherent or off our face, in fact, I am very with-it when I take drugs, probably far more with it that someone who is drunk - I do agree with other comments that you should not have to do drugs to enable you to do things you would not normally do sexually but I guess for some people this helps them lose their inhibitions. It all depends on how far people go and anyone who is smashed from alcohol or drugs is not attractive at that time. While I say all this I do respect peoples boundaries and that drugs are not everyone's cup of tea and that is fine but I do ask that people do not paint all rec drug users with labels like druggie or dirty as that is just simply not the case. Each to their own I say :)Miss F x
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madotara69
13 years ago
Quoting 'Freya13' I hate the fking Eagles man,...what was the question Please answer the Ladies request!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Hotdiggettydamn'Want to do with their lives, but I don't want to be around it anymore. That being said I don't really want to be around someone that regularly overdrinks either, in fact alcohol causes way more problems than most of these recreational drugs, but it's socially acceptable even though pretty much every study puts it top of the most dangerous drugs list. I do find it funny that people who are usually the most anti-drugs are quite happy to get blind drunk. I am anti drug as I had to live through it....having a family member that is a drug user is no bed of roses! I do not drink at all, so no getting blind drunk for me either! So I would like to know where you got that stat from?????? Find out FACTS before making such ridiculous statements! xFunlovingx
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madotara69
13 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Quoting 'Freya13' I hate the fking Eagles man,...what was the question Please answer the Ladies request!You look beautiful as alwaysv Freya Mado
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think what he meant was that drinking is not seen in the same light as recreational drugs by some people, and you often to speak to people who are completely against drugs but have no issue with getting drunk. Not everyone of course. :) I don't drink either except for the occassional vodka or Baileys. As in a few times a year and usually because someone is insisting that I should. God I am a square! LMAO.
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RHP User
13 years ago
we've both experienced first hand, both professionally and personally, the misery that drugs and even excess alcohol bring with them.so we wont have drugs in our house, and we wont have people who indulge, or who drink to excess in our lives........
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RHP User
13 years ago
I for one choose not to be around those who use substances , I just don't need to play with people who need to alter their reality to be comfortable in playing with me , to put it simply I have more respect for myself than that . I don't mean this to be offensive its just my personal choice
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RHP User
13 years ago
Have to agree, is great sex not the best natural 'high" you can get.
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RHP User
13 years ago
...we live in a world in which 130,000 people die each year from prescription medication....accidental deaths, over dose and wrongly prescribed etc..however, we do not frown upon the use of prescription medication. The Big Pharma have a huge amount of influence with the mass media and continue to demonize recreational drugs....particularly cannabis despite the fact that there have been no recorded deaths caused by it (no counting motor vehicle accidents)... If I met a woman who decided to smoke a joint, take an aspirin, a line of cocaine, ibuprofen etc.....then it is neither here nor there in my opinion.... I choose not to take any drug into my body if I can help it.....but each to their own...
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RHP User
13 years ago
I am not going to point a finger because when you point with one finger the others are pointing straight back at you. Recreational drugs are just that, some are bad ie;methamphetamines can cause psychosis if used regularly, weed can mask symptoms in schizophrenia or make a person more paranoid. The use of drugs is more of a mental health issue and some of the attitudes here are influenced by media portrayals of drug use. Big Pharma has been instumental in demonising recreational drug use because they see natural drugs such as marijuana being outside their ability to charge people. Some use of recreatinal drugs has been a part of human activty for millenia, its just some people that take things too far and their drug use becomes dangerous. Oxygen is classed as a drug in medical therapy. Kids spinning around till they get dizzy is an example of humans trying to get out of their heads. Moderation is not just a word..... Mike
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RHP User
13 years ago
Recreational drugs bar alcohol are illegal. You are therefore breaking the law in buying and using..........................and that one cant be argued I deal with at least one recreational drug death a week in my line of work (on average) and sadly it is mostly young people using - say under37 Once you see a parent hysterically grieiving over their childs body, sobbing, inconsolable, trying to shake their lifeless child awake... beyond grief stricken..and always insisting - no screaming at you that theres no way their child is a user.......................and toxicology report states different...... and then you hear the howls of this parent, chilling..asking why ? why ? why ? over and over again...and watch how their lives are now shattered beyond anything you can begin to even imagine...all because their child wanted to feel "good/heightened excitement /high and out of it " for a while......then you may just change your mind....... or perhaps not..and therein lies the tragedy............. cause it will never happen to you rite...???
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RHP User
13 years ago
Wasn't meaning to say all or even most people with an anti-drug stance love binge drinking. Should have worded it better, but, there are many many more people out there overdrinking every weekend and doing stupid things than there are drug takers. Like I said, I don't care for either drugs or drinking much at all but that's a personal decision, I'm not going to judge people for it either way. But I can tell you now... I would much rather be around a stoned person than a drunk one if push came to shove but it's not a lifestyle I want to be a part of... Been there done that.
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RHP User
13 years ago
If you read my second reply you will see that NO I am not in that field, but I switch off after work regardless and its more my personal experiences that make me avoid drug users of any description. And in no way should I have to tolerate it in my personal life, in anything it made me less tolerant. I've never used the word "druggie" to describe anyone and not would I, however whatever level or drug use it is I don't want it in my life. I have a family member who quite heavily used ice and I no longer live with them for that reason. I simply will not tolerate the use of illegal substances where I live regardless of who it is- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
...on what substance we're talking about. If someone's into amyl when playing - i'm not going to pass judgement. Weed - I'd exercise caution. All you need is for someone to have a bad experience and things can go south very quickly (and I don't mean that in a sexy way). Coke, ecstasy - I think people would be wise to stay away from recreational party drugs that you can overdose from. If you really want to, do it in your own time. Chances are it won't happen, but someone overdosing would just be a real mood-killer. If I have to stop playing to perform CPR while waiting for the ambulance to arrive - chances are I won't be inviting them to play again. If you're into crystal meth or heroin, well, let's be honest. You probably have bigger problems to deal with than sitting around your computer wondering why nobody wants to play with you... Mr Kinkster.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I was a DJ from about '85 to 2002. I played music for people who enjoyed E & Acid . I was on stage watching over 2000 people having a fantastic time ( no fights ). There were a lot of people who Lost The Plot but , on the FlipSide, There were also many people who held positions of responsibility during their week (successfully ). I'm over the Drug Scene now , but I don't think anyone is in the position to make Blanket Statements about the subject . Every individual reacts differently to Drugs . As for taking Drugs for Sex , I think it's each person's choice . I don't need them .... Sex Is The Drug . I've never approved of intravenous drug use , I think that creates Zombies . I know Drugs can be a Social Issue but , once again , that is the problem of individuals & the people that surround them . Many people use Drugs to unwind & let loose on rare occasions without it affecting their daily life. Lets not forget that Ecxtacy was used in Clinical situations for Marriage Counselling back in the late 60's . :)- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think great experiences happen when everyone is in the same headspace, and has similar wants.Trick is finding people who match (however they do so), at the right time, surely?I'm probably more likely to have a good time with someone who's had a line of coke than someone who has a penchant for scat, just because - on a scale of 'good fit' - one is further, much further, out than the other. And patchouli oil really puts me off. Damn hippies.
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madotara69
13 years ago
Frowning is for frowners, and they frown at just about anything other than themselves and frowning. And that is just boring.We spend the first third of our life, thinking to look at every one We spend the second third of our life, thinking every one is looking at us We spend the third part of our life, realizing no one was really looking at any one at all There is always the frowners Some people have a story, laugh or cry. They are what matters.If it is a copper looking for some money, make sure you take a hatIf you are referring to Drugs... Love is a Drug, and I am addicted Mado
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RHP User
13 years ago
I could not agree more Shina. Great post.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Curious Shinas - you say you deal with one recreational drug death a week. How many more alcohol related?Tobacco of course is the biggest killer, but don't dare start a thread on not playing with smokers. Been there and done that.Choosing not to play with drinkers, smokers, potheads, coke fiends, caffeine addicts, gym junkies, book worms, or any other bad habit you want to name is of course everyone's right.Personally we dont have anything against anyone who has a habit in moderation and we wont rule them out. We wont however play with smokers who smell, drunks, anyone obviously wasted, or anyone who has recently eaten a lot of garlic. Unless of course we're in on the party. If everyone is happy, then everyone is happy.Mr C
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RHP User
13 years ago
I was part of a threesome recently when things were looking like a long night could be had. MM, not mine, decided a little extra fun could be had by using something he had bought along. For me that was the end of the night, I don't need a mind altering drug to make me go all night, I do want to enjoy the experience with all partners.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara'Curious Shinas - you say you deal with one recreational drug death a week. How many more alcohol related? Tobacco of course is the biggest killer, but don't dare start a thread on not playing with smokers. Been there and done that. l Sadly Mr Chick...based on the method of deaths - usually they die of a combination of both alcohol and rec drugs. (it just goes hand in hand nowadays ) ..my comment was for rec drugs only............and every so often you get one which is solely alcohol related (perhaps now one every 10-12 days) only but that is becoming rare as opposed to say 15 years ago 10 years ago it was mainly heroin OD but since the war ...heroin deaths have declined..now its all ekky, ice , coke related deaths ......and not always the drugs but what they cut it all with that kills ....still regarded as a drug death though... And also what paramedics and ER staff are finding when there is a drug mishap the patient often lies about exactly what they have taken and how much they took, making it almost impossible to treat them (we rely on frineds telling us) .....death at times simply comes about cause the patient lies...and theres a lot in that...what does that say ?? yes shame and yes if they survived they will be charged..............we have to report all drug incidents.. The thing is as we know...tobacco is one of our biggest killers but it doesnt alters ones state..like RCD or alcohol... Have I taken drugs.? .yes..............hell I was med student..of course I did. ( and thank god for Dex but thats a legal drug) .....and it had its time and place......20 odd years on...yeah whole different ball game ...............nope I like my sex highs from awesome sex and a brilliant lover ....... Thankyou Courtesan Aly - lovely to see you back..missed you ..:)
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RHP User
13 years ago
If I can't be relaxed enough to do it sober, why woiuld I want to get high and then do it? I also tend to prefer my partner not to be stoned during sex as well. I've never done drugs and don't ever want to for a lot of reasons, one of them being I don't really want to be so relaxed that I couldn't care what I'm doing or what's happening to me only to regret what I've done once I come down from that high. Having said that, each to their own I guess, but my home is an illegal drug free zone.
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swifttall
13 years ago
The OP is very confusing to me. Some substanaces are illegal. Cigarettes and alcohol are not. An opinion on them needs to fit around this fact. So to get them you act illegally . Why are they so important to you that you 'need' to include them? To lose your inhibitions in front of your own partner. Confusing.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Iced tea anyone? ;-)
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RHP User
13 years ago
.. that's herbal tea by the way. And regarding "substances", not for me thanks.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Dimethyltryptamine is not an issue: - it is widespread throughout the plant kingdom and the human body naturally produces it. I saw the Spirit Molecule recently - science is starting to throw some light on this..... Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' Recreational drugs bar alcohol are illegal. You are therefore breaking the law in buying and using..........................and that one cant be argued I deal with at least one recreational drug death a week in my line of work (on average) and sadly it is mostly young people using - say under37 Once you see a parent hysterically grieiving over their childs body, sobbing, inconsolable, trying to shake their lifeless child awake... beyond grief stricken..and always insisting - no screaming at you that theres no way their child is a user.......................and toxicology report states different...... and then you hear the howls of this parent, chilling..asking why ? why ? why ? over and over again...and watch how their lives are now shattered beyond anything you can begin to even imagine...all because their child wanted to feel "good/heightened excitement /high and out of it " for a while......then you may just change your mind....... or perhaps not..and therein lies the tragedy............. cause it will never happen to you rite...??? How about Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)Dimethyltryptamine is not an issue: - it is widespread throughout the plant kingdom and the human body naturally produces it. I saw the Spirit Molecule recently - science is starting to throw some light on this..... All mammals produce it in trace amounts yet it is still illegal.....no recorded cases of overdose or abuse (no deaths recorded). It is not linked to suicide. It is released by the brain during REM sleep......It is illegal purely because it is psychedelic.....not because it causes harm......it is found in over 1000 plant species.....Just because something is illegal it does not mean that it is morally, ethically or inherently wrong.....
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RHP User
13 years ago
We're pretty surprised by attitudes in this thread. We have to giggle at the whole "I don't need drugs, I like the natural high" posturing. Tell us, do you NEED handcuffs to get you off? Vibrators? Massage oil? A feather duster and a photo of Leonard Nimoy? Nope, because they're 'extras'. They're different and pleasurable experiences that you include in your sex life sometimes, but probably not all the time. The argument is the same for most light recreational drug users. We doubt many NEED them to have a good time, and few would demand or even suggest it on a first session (though sure, some people are just dickheads.) There's a world of difference between someone who is open to the idea of sharing a spliff before a session with some candles and a massage, and somebody who's going to turn up at your doorstep grinding on a Chuppa Chupp and shaking her head to the music only she can hear. We think it's an incredibly simplistic assumption to equate popping a pill on a night out once every few months with friends, to ending up in the ER with an ice-induced psychosis. That is all. Mr Tryst AND Ms Shout
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RHP User
13 years ago
Having worked as a drug counselor/RN/Nurse Specialist in Drug and Alcohol Services for half of my life, all I will say is this: Some posts here made me feel absolutely while others made me Overall I'm left with an overwhelming feeling of Meh... All drugs and drug consumers are not created equal, people. Now, where are my mood elevators? p.s. Slippery: I think I love you.
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RHP User
13 years ago
There are two questions here...do I have a problem with those that use "recreational drugs"? Nope...that's their choice, as long as THEIR choices aren't pushed onto me, my kids, or anyone else that chooses NOT to.Would I play with someone that uses "recreational drugs"? Once again nope. That's my CHOICE. I don't push my CHOICE onto others, otherwise what choice am I giving them??Lastly however, I have a problem with the term "recreational drug." The term incites positive appeal....my definition of "recreational drugs" are ENDORPHINS, go for a walk, jog, spend time with your loved ones, THAT'S my idea of recreation.
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RHP User
13 years ago
like this are what make this an entertaining forum. Sure there are people who take drugs out of hours to enhance their experiences in life. People find their own way of enjoying life or ruining it. Mary Jane is illegal because Big Pharma had no way to sell some of the chemical compounds they want to. Marijuana can be and has been used as a medicine for hundreds of years, this is now recognised and medical smokers in many US states are able to use it to help control and alleviate the symptoms of nausea, pain related issues in cancer treatmen and Glaucoma. The issue of mental illness ie; schizophrenia being caused by Mj is another problem as the link has not been proved and Schizophrenic people may have been using Mj to mask the symptoms. In my field its called self medication and can exacerbate some of the more problematic behaviours...... Mike
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting you :Just because something is illegal it does not mean that it is morally, ethically or inherently wrong so very true but until its legal........................ its illegal...................
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RHP User
13 years ago
Having worked with people addicted to various drugs has made me not want to have anything with taking them. There's nothing 'wrong' with the person who's trying to get off an addiction (I have a huge amount of respect for people doing this, they deserve a medal just for attempting it) however, I've just seen the devastating ripple effects that drugs have in the wider community.
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RHP User
13 years ago
My view when it comes to drugs..each to their own..its their body, who are we to say what people can and cant do with their bodies..Me personally i wouldnt wanna touch any. Ive seen the dark side. Had an ex die from a OD..Doesnt mean im against it..What is needed for better education when it comes to drugs..In the end..some people just shouldnt go anywhere near drugs. But in saying that, if one needs drugs to have a good time..i feel sorry for them...just my 2 cents...dont shoot me
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RHP User
13 years ago
Yes yes yes .... Drugs kill people So do: Motor cars Other people Cigarettes Alcohol Diseases .........etc ad nauseum It all comes down to personal responsibility ..... I use them for sex and I love it .... We have ridiculously awesome sex without them but like one having a few glasses of champagne to get in the mood it's our choice to take the odd mood enhancer. In saying that there are a hideously large amount of people in particular young people that choose instead to ABUSE said drugs which in my opinion is sad and the reason for that is lack of education and stigma attached to being an illegal drug user. Drugs have been around since god was a boy .... And everyone from your friendly neighbourhood newsagent to your max-facial surgeon from your multi-million dollar executive to your favourite megastar singer has more than likely dabbled but will more than likely never admit to it as the connotations attached to such an admission are anti social and detrimental to ones public persona because of said stigma. Jesus Christ people Hitler as mad as the bastard was lived on speed and fed it to his army which allowed such a small country to seemingly march across Europe and almost take over the world. My reasoning is if it makes u feel awesome and makes the sex surreal and an ultimate pleasure and you do so with knowledge and responsibility then do what feels good. If you are too uptight and moral and judgemental and narrow minded to believe that people always have a choice and sadly the people that choose to overdose or choose to push boundaries without knowledge then suffer the consequences were doing it for all the wrong reasons and would probably have found some other reckless method if either intentional or unintentional suicide. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
Pressed send prematurely ( don't freak at my choice of words lads .... They have drugs for that too... Lol) Just to surmise ..... If u like it do it if you don't like it don't .... But don't impose your views or statistics or in fact drugs on others ... I have a particular distaste for fanatics of any kind narrow minded bigoted or well meaning it matters not. TO EACH HIS OWN Mr&Mrs Sshwammy Peace Love And Light To All Now where is my pipe... Hehehe Xxxx- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
There is a remarkable strength of opinion amongst most posters (posterers?), which is unexpected to me. As T&S elucidate so clearly above, everything alters your experience. Think about how nice "half-asleep" sex is in the morning. It's an altered state of perception.Perhaps Mado is bang on - it's group-think to avoid narrowing the field?wantingtogetiton, I'd be curious to know if the respondents are a representative sample, or if all the disco people are hooking up outside this thread?I discovered a long time ago that E's make my willie shrink (temporarily, thank god!), almost inversely proportional to how horny they make me (extremely). Bad news!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
my safety is a high priority.I choose to meet with people who are not affected by any mind altering substances...alcohol, smoke, drugs.Its hard enough to really know a persons personality when they are sober, let alone trying to know how they will be under the influence of anything.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Yea love it how people have drug or disease free lol but looking at some pics I wonder about other substance to ? Is drinking not a killer ? Does steroids make your dick shrink ? How many have prescription drugs mayb ADHD or down sindrome etc ? Even silicone tits can cause harm. I'm glad we live in such a perfect world . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
13 years ago
so many biased opinions floating around here... seems alot of people pay lip service to being "open minded". If you dont need "drugs" to "feel normal", and you are against them, thats all well and good. But please don't then visit the pub to consume alcohol with your mates and delude yourself into believing that its OK and "not the same"
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RHP User
13 years ago
Just to avoid confusion; (And to avoid the poster somewhere above me being jumped on) there are no medications for Down Syndrome, only to treat the conditions associated with it, such as epilepsy. Carry on...
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RHP User
13 years ago
I must be tripping on something.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That in its self is an attempt to soften the word "drugs", as others have said in my youth I dabbled with a few illicit drugs but saw the light & now make a personal choice not to associate with anyone who does use drugs. Further I wont play with anyone under the influence of alcohol or drugs, my thinking is that of a few other psters in that if you have to be 1/2 loaded/ tanked to jump into bed (or a car bonnet etc) then theres something fundamentally wrong. But that is my choice & if your happy to play while stone/drunk/high thats your business but it can also leave you wide open to a criminal charge as theres a issue of been capable of giving consent. (theres been a few high profile cases in the media lately about that very issue)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Ms_Devious' I must be tripping on something.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Ms_Devious'I must be tripping on something. I thought I was having flashbacks. Glad it wasn't just me.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Disclaimer: I'm not much of a drinker, a non smoker, and dont use recreational drugs. I used to do all of the above but it was a long time ago. We wouldn't play with people obviously affected by mind altering substances to clearly answer the OP.I am however addicted to pointing out hypocrisy whenever I see it. It's something I've tried to control over the years without success. It's combined with a very healthy disrespect for needless authority, which makes this one of my favourite issues.Sure "recreational" drugs are illegal, but they shouldn't be. Alcohol was illegal once too and just about everyone understands that was dumb. So is the current prohibition, in fact it's much dumber and much more damaging.Some say too bad they are illegal, and therefore are bad, and therefore you shouldn't do it. Fair enough, if you dont want to take risks then dont. But if others choose to well that really is up to them and their own bodies.I'm curious though - it's obvious from the forums that many here enjoy anal sex. That was illegal too not that long ago, some here are probably old enough to have broken the law. Men went to jail for it. If it was illegal now would you all stop? Dumb laws are made to be broken.Some say drugs ruin lives, and it's true. But for every person that's ruined there are tens of thousands of others that just have a little fun in moderation. You dont see them in the ER, but it doesn't mean they dont exist.Everyone has the right to choose what they put in their own bodies and no law can change that. We choose not to insert a lot of people for a lot of reasons, just one of which would be how wasted they are.Excuse me I need a coffee.Mr C
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara' Disclaimer: I'm not much of a drinker, a non smoker, and dont use recreational drugs. I used to do all of the above but it was a long time ago. We wouldn't play with people obviously affected by mind altering substances to clearly answer the OP.I am however addicted to pointing out hypocrisy whenever I see it. It's something I've tried to control over the years without success. It's combined with a very healthy disrespect for needless authority, which makes this one of my favourite issues.Sure "recreational" drugs are illegal, but they shouldn't be. Alcohol was illegal once too and just about everyone understands that was dumb. So is the current prohibition, in fact it's much dumber and much more damaging.Some say too bad they are illegal, and therefore are bad, and therefore you shouldn't do it. Fair enough, if you dont want to take risks then dont. But if others choose to well that really is up to them and their own bodies.I'm curious though - it's obvious from the forums that many here enjoy anal sex. That was illegal too not that long ago, some here are probably old enough to have broken the law. Men went to jail for it. If it was illegal now would you all stop? Dumb laws are made to be broken.Some say drugs ruin lives, and it's true. But for every person that's ruined there are tens of thousands of others that just have a little fun in moderation. You dont see them in the ER, but it doesn't mean they dont exist.Everyone has the right to choose what they put in their own bodies and no law can change that. We choose not to insert a lot of people for a lot of reasons, just one of which would be how wasted they are.Excuse me I need a coffee.Mr C Some very good points there..;-)I agree that some laws are just plain nonsense......
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belladonna888
13 years ago
Quoting 'Ms_Devious' Having worked as a drug counselor/RN/Nurse Specialist in Drug and Alcohol Services for half of my life, all I will say is this: Some posts here made me feel absolutely while others made me Overall I'm left with an overwhelming feeling of Meh... All drugs and drug consumers are not created equal, people. Now, where are my mood elevators? p.s. Slippery: I think I love you. He who is without sin .. Im not a drug user and im sure this post isnt about " drugos " Walk a mile in their shoes , it aint pretty !!
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RHP User
13 years ago
"Television, the drug of the nation, breeding ignorance and feeding radiation" I don't own a television but I do enjoy a drink in moderation, the occasional joint and every now and then, acid. If no-one wants to have sex with me when I am enjoying those things that's fine, I'm experienced at masturbation and hell it feels good. I believe in harm minimisation, I also believe what people do to get themselves off sexually is their business. As they say in the BDSM world,keep its safe, sane and consensual and its the players who define what all of that means for them. If it means sharing a joint, having some recreational drugs from time to time, enjoy.As Mike said moderation is more than a word.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara'Disclaimer: I'm not much of a drinker, a non smoker, and dont use recreational drugs. I used to do all of the above but it was a long time ago. We wouldn't play with people obviously affected by mind altering substances to clearly answer the OP. I am however addicted to pointing out hypocrisy whenever I see it. It's something I've tried to control over the years without success. It's combined with a very healthy disrespect for needless authority, which makes this one of my favourite issues. Sure "recreational" drugs are illegal, but they shouldn't be. Alcohol was illegal once too and just about everyone understands that was dumb. So is the current prohibition, in fact it's much dumber and much more damaging. Some say too bad they are illegal, and therefore are bad, and therefore you shouldn't do it. Fair enough, if you dont want to take risks then dont. But if others choose to well that really is up to them and their own bodies. I'm curious though - it's obvious from the forums that many here enjoy anal sex. That was illegal too not that long ago, some here are probably old enough to have broken the law. Men went to jail for it. If it was illegal now would you all stop? Dumb laws are made to be broken. Some say drugs ruin lives, and it's true. But for every person that's ruined there are tens of thousands of others that just have a little fun in moderation. You dont see them in the ER, but it doesn't mean they dont exist. Everyone has the right to choose what they put in their own bodies and no law can change that. We choose not to insert a lot of people for a lot of reasons, just one of which would be how wasted they are. Excuse me I need a coffee. Mr C and off the record I totally agree with your points ..however as per usual when it comes to ethics I am torn and wrestle with so many issues (dont even start me on euthanasia !!) however I took an Oath and that is why I have to abide by the laws as they are today - because the law took this decision making from me.(with my consent) ..the line drawn is very clear for me...as it should be from a professional l point of view...I have to walk that line at times both personally and professionaly and its not easy because they do clash.... Shinas bashes head against laptop....again............sighs.......... Trust me its hard..............
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RHP User
13 years ago
i can honestly say,, whether i condone it or not,, the majority of the people i have met have been indulging in some form of drug or another,,, drugs is generally depicted by mind altering,,,, We as an enviroment,, here on RHP,,, we are many and varied,,,, yet someone brings up the subject of substances, and everyone gets on the moral high ground,,, substances, can be from a panadol,, to a line,, a joint to a pipe,, from an E to amyl,,,, i am sure if, there was a dinner party for conservatives,,, swinging will be judged the same,,, it gets down to different strokes for different strokes,, just like our sexual behaviour,,,, our substances are not dissimilar,whether it be suctance, being chemical, emotional, or sexual,,, i think we are a free thinking enough enviroment not to pre-juge. the original auther of the forum,,, asked a question,,, it was minimised with the word substance,,, rather than the word drugs,,, isnt sex a drug for us all who are on here for a real reason??we are in an enviroment,, where bi males are not judged,, one of my mates is gay,, he feels no offence when i call him a poofta,, i watched the sex researchers on ABC,,, sex is a drug,,, or as politely put,, a substance,,, sex can give you a high,, it can give you lows,,, it's where you set your boundaries,,, not unlike substances in the drug agenda,,, where do we draw the line,, cigarettes? a joint? panadol? alcohol?A line, and E?come one,, we are into this lifestyle because it gives us pleasure,,, we asl not to judge,,, yet we are all so quick to judge someone who asked an honest question,, whether he indulged in drugs or not,,,drugs has been a part of our partyh scene,, it lowers inhibitions,,,so does our sexual desires,,, and sex is not a drug???
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RHP User
13 years ago
Good to see some here are open minded about substance , ? For the drug councelors ! Are yous not required by law to take partition in counciling yourselfs ? So with out judging are yous mentally untrusted for mental break down . People that take steroids , implants or even Botox ! Should they be judged from Bn from low selfastiem to think there better than you ? Alcohol has Bn known more times as a killer road or even home abuse should they be judged ? I'm sure most people would have a family member or a friend that dabbles a bit I no we do no people, but hey personal preference and open mind people ! Personality is an a+ an not to judge people cause they might dabble or work cleaning gutters after all it only dribble - Posted from rhpmobile
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Soulmates
13 years ago
& don’t forget Cialis, Viagra, & their associates are recreational substances too, but I guess there legal.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'flimac' Your right I didn't phrase that well at all, people who don't think drugs are damaging and have a complete lack of understanding about the harm they do are the ones that I dislike, I am very sorry the way that what I wrote came out because it wasn't meant how it in hindsight reads. I have nothing but respect for those who seek out help, and I do point out im no longer in that field at all because it burnt me out well and truly!! So I'm not "representing" the sector at all but it does colour my acceptance of drug use now. I will help friends who choose to take that path - but if I'm honest I'm not going to stick around in that friendship if they continue that behaviour. What I'm trying to say is that I choose not to have contact in my private life with drug users because that is not a lifestyle I can ever condone or find attractive - not that they are less worthy people. And you would be surprised that I'm actually far from judgemental and disapproving but you know what, I knock off work and am allowed my own opinions about who I have sex with!! Much better with the clarification flimac. You certainly aren't the first community worker to get burned-out, I hope whatever you're doing now takes less of a toll on you. If I'd been burned-out of my role (in a different field, but just saying), I'd probably let my frustration seep into my posts about the topic too without necessarily meaning to give offense.I apologise for being so narky in my criticism of your initial post. Usually I'm a nice guy, still I occasionally drop the ball and let the cutting tongue off its leash. I'll try to be kinder next time.I hope you find plenty of suitable new friends and playmates who are compatible!
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RHP User
13 years ago
*biting tongue really.....really....HARD*
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'weracupl' For the drug councelors ! Are yous not required by law to take partition in counciling yourselfs ? So with out judging are yous mentally untrusted for mental break down . Not required to have counseling at all, but who needs it with all the good drugs you can get. Prescribed. Prescribed! And... untrusted? My mental breakdowns are very reliable actually.
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madotara69
13 years ago
A man that appears to work sleepless for his cause, runs the inpatients emergence wards at St Vincent Hospital Sydney. Not that long ago ran a campaign to plead with society for changing this attitude of zero tolerance and stereotype towards drug users. It caused more problems than the actual drugs. Simply our kids were more afraid of being seen as scum,druggo's, filthy,lowlifes,junkies etc etc. so much that by the time they got to hospital, it was often too late. The Dr promised publicly, If someone you know or are with is sick from drugs, just bring them to me, I promise you will not get in trouble. Please if you just bring them straight away, We can help them.Further to that, The Dr was on televission in the supermarket educating us for the poisons in the packaged food, focused with a chemical preservative 282. Now that he said is bad for us, especially children. I used to love crumpets.I for one never want my kids to be afraid to call me if they are having problems for taking a drug. I would be the fool to expect they won't. We have made a promise to our children, they will never be in trouble for telling the truth, no matter what, we will stand by them.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Each to their own but if you want to punch cones hit us up. Haha. On an honest level if we were to play with a couple on Drugs and we weren't dabbling with the chosen substance we'd feel left out. Drugs are like an in joke. If your not in the moment/ same level of high then no one will understand. We've all gotten the drunk call from someone where you can't comprehend their current mind set. To contradict everything ive said theres been many nights at gangbangs/swingers clubs in the single days where I was on a different level to everyone else and still got laid. Puddin- Posted from rhpmobile
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N4November
13 years ago
#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; } Quoting 'DeliciousCplBris' This scene is rife with recreational drug users , I find it sad and a little disturbing to watch 40+ year old men and women off their head on ecstasy or coke or ghb . One party we went to the women were all dressed as school girls ( 35-50 year olds) taking ghb balloons and dancing alone like wils video vixens - the scene was quite confronting ( put me off school themes for life !!) I find it almost juvenile and off putting to see mature people in that state. Nothing worse than fucking someone who's head is somewhere else . If the entire room is on drugs and you are not, the night is a complete downer as their party is in their heads and you are present. ...recreational drugs are a no from us, though we do have friends that dabble , they know and respect our stance on them . So glad my life isn't dictated for the need for drugs. Seen firsthand how fucking stupid they are and then someone you care about become trapped in that addictive cycle..... :(Me? I'm crazy enough without them so can't imagine what my life would resemble if I did!! lolMy vices are sex, coffee and food. In that order
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N4November
13 years ago
That's the best thing - remembering all the really cool stuff you got up too ;) .#next_pages_container { width: 5px; hight: 5px; position: absolute; top: -100px; left: -100px; z-index: 2147483647 !important; }
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RHP User
13 years ago
i wouldve thought that if an adult ...or anyone for that matter.....said.............' I dont want illegal drugs or anyone who uses them, anywhere near me'.....then that would be the beginning, middle and end of the discussion............there is no argument. none.
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RHP User
13 years ago
all i can say is - how can you comment on an experience unless you have tried it, its awsome! not for everyone though...that i can understand!
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RHP User
13 years ago
We all make our own choices, hopefully enlightened or at least informed ones. It can be very tempting to play down the impact of alcohol, but over consumption of alcohol creates more misery, injury and death than any other drug. Think of all the violence and accidents that happen every day because of it. I am not advocating tee totalling by any means, but when you put it in perspective, the legal recreational drug has an amazing impact on our society. And for anyone who is unsure? We have lost the "war" on drugs.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'sexyeyes60' I was part of a threesome recently when things were looking like a long night could be had. MM, not mine, decided a little extra fun could be had by using something he had bought along. For me that was the end of the night, I don't need a mind altering drug to make me go all night, I do want to enjoy the experience with all partners. Have to agree with you there sexyeyes, think the night would be over for me too
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RHP User
13 years ago
There is nothing more unattractive then meeting with a guy or couple and then bringing out the goods (rec drugs) straight away.Even though I can indulge every now and then, it shows me that their priotities are not where they should be when meeting someone for the first time.Once you get to know someone and know where they stand on the subject, then you can entertain the idea... but it is a big turn off if it comes up too soon.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I dont drink smoke or do drugs and most people would say im a cute guy, but the fact that i dont do any of that and refuse to makes a lot of people feel very uncomfortaable a does limit who i can be intimate with.... I know it sounds strange but i have seen it happen first hand time and time again!
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RHP User
13 years ago
We take drugs maybe three nights a week.. His drug of choice is a Sapphire Gin and lemonade with a twist of lime and a splash of bitters and hers is a splash of vodka or a glass of red....We are so bad and so not worth meeting... He! He!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Dylan1983'all i can say is - how can you comment on an experience unless you have tried it, its awsome! not for everyone though...that i can understand! having an opinion one way or the other doesnt mean someones not tried it at all......some of us have, but decided long ago ...that its not for us....our lives have been touched by the darkest side of drug use, and theres only so much sadness and loss that a person can tolerate..........
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Freya13' I hate the fking Eagles man,...what was the question C.mon, Hotel California isn't that bad.. Well Well Peaceful easy feeling isn't anyways
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RHP User
13 years ago
Live and let live
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RHP User
13 years ago
In a box with a fox, In a train in the rain...
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RHP User
13 years ago
We aren't drug users so for us, if someone were to bring out some drugs, we would probably politely leave the scene. Don't like the idea of sex with people who are off their heads on any substance. When we meet a couple, we may have a couple of alcoholic drinks, but nothing to get us more than tipsy. We aren't judging anyone for enjoying an indulgence here or there, it's just our choice not to associate with drugs. We don't find wildly drunk people attractive at all and the same would go for people on drugs. That's just how we feel.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Adding on to that post *hit Post comment too soon*, I think it's bad etiquette to drink (to the point of drunk) or do drugs around people who abstain.
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