M61
old topic---obesity
February 16 2016
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RHP User
10 years ago
that after the age of 30 the French women cut down a little on what they eat every year as our metabolism slows down. The average dress size has gone up over the years. But when we have fast food joints on every corner and supermarkets sell processed ands sugary food at low prices when fresh food is expensive, then its not going to change any time soon. Its up to the individual in the end. I walk a lot, try and eat a healthy diet, but allow myself treats. eg, wine and cheese. Gyms are expensive but sex is a good way of enjoying regular exercise with no fees....... Educating our children about a healthy way of life is also paramount.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think that the ageing population is also a bit of an issue as well. Australia has an aging population as we get older we do tend to stack on a few Kilos. I think this is part of the issue when it come to Aeroplanes also the fact that travel is so much easier. I realise that your post was not so much to do with air travel but the example you used is not really a bench mark for weight gain. That being said we are gaining in average weight it has a lot to do with fast food and premade foods that are in such high consumption now a days. LC
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RHP User
10 years ago
I started school in the mid seventies and during my primary years there was quite a bit of education on food and health. I recently saw Jamie Oliver has an online petition 'The Campaign' to make this compulsory education for children across the globe. Let's face it that is where we need to start. If our government actually gave a damn there should be some enforcement of images and advertising throughout the media. How sick and tired have I become of fast food ads that never represent what you see when I am there (if ever). Watching sport and fast foods plastered everywhere by way of sponsorship and so much more. And like Koko said prices are just another key factor, why is there no incentive and when you see the breakdown of price from farmer to supermarket it is infuriating and criminal. Our government most definitely needs to take responsibility for this.
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RHP User
10 years ago
the only way to get any of my taxes back is to grow even fatter than I already am and leach off the already burgeoning health system. If a politician can retire early and get paid a pension and stuff for life I fgure I might as well get some type of benefit back as I sincerely doubt, nor do I particularly want to be around in my older years still trapped in a sysytem that forces me to go to work every bloody day to pay for the likes of Gina Rhineheart to live off the sweat off my back and pay her taxes. So instead, I'm gonna enjoy my younger years and imbibe as much fast food, alcohol and all of life's other riches til I rolll over and die. It's all part of my master plan...mwahahahahaha....
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think the increasing obesity level is an outward manifestation of unexpressed dissatisfaction with modern consumerist society. But I speak only of averages. Individual reasons will vary considerably. Some want to be that way, some are just made that way, some grossly underestimate the calorie content of what they eat, some grossly overestimate the calorie requirements of the exercise they do, some are uniformed, some are unimaginative about exercise options, some are lazy, some have medical conditions .... It's a personal thing and I think its great that you are reevaluating your food choices and I hope you get positive outcomes from that.
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RHP User
10 years ago
"Danger Will Robinson Danger" !
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Seachange73
10 years ago
Good topic and very timely. We all gained a few 'comfort pounds' here and there during the racing carnival and xmas holidays. we slack off a bit and enjoy the festivities not knowing that the pounds are carefully stacking up and voila.... I feel like Fiona from Shrek and determined to lose the weight in the New Year. So far so good. as back into my normal routine. silly season is over. but definitely getting the training up to 4x a week. A fwb has just been turned down in the police recruitment because apparently his BMI is too high and he is borderline obese? I was surprised as he really wasnt and at 6 ft 1 and 28yo, he did not really did not look big at all and the physical was carried out when he was at his heaviest last year, near christmas time.so he has to lose weight and get back into shape. I am trying to help with lots of sexercise on offer. So far, he has showed up to all the training sessions. Just trying to help a friend.
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DynamicCouple36
10 years ago
A couple of years ago, we received details of an international study of sorts (via our medical insurance newsletter) that Australia was #2 in the world (USA was #1) when it came to highest obesity rates. Ascribed to poor diet, popularity of fast food, sedentary lifestyle etc. It was a wake up call for us. We changed our diet and lost 30 & 23 kg each , over a 2 to 4 month period, and have never looked back. It was an investment in our health, vitality, confidence , libido and love life . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
...As we do in Europe (I am from there)... We have good eating habits and most of us here and in Europe are aware that calories in and calories out are the affecting factor... If you want to have a laugh, look up the "fat acceptance movement" which is spreading like wild fire in the USA. I hope it is not going to arrive here anytime soon, but I saw an episode of "insight" and they are totally delusional. The American promoters of this movements go as far as saying that you can be morbidly obese and still be healthy (?). Incidentally, they are mostly super fat women, angry and bitter at the fact that men don't feel attracted to their *curves* (=lard rolls)... These people claiming that an obese body is NOT the result of poor nutrition and a clear imbalance between how much you eat and how much you consume is ludicrous! Specific illnesses causing weight gain aside, the excess weight is the result of behaviors, may they be understandable behaviors (overeating as a result of trauma) or unjustifiable ones (gluttony). The reason for an unhealthy relationship with food are multifaceted and complex, and nobody should be fat-shamed or bullied for having this issue in his/her life. At the same time, enlarging plain seats to accommodate the super morbidly obese is just like having public purging buckets to accommodate the bulimic, or having coin dispensers of heroin around the shopping centers... They should be helped by the medical community instead, so that they can figure out the reasons for self medicating with food... Btw, I am all for the feminine curves and I am a fierce advocate of stopping the unhealthy stick-thin model standards on the cat walks, as I work with teenagers and I see the damage that it is doing. But we should promote healthy BMI curves. But why is it that the majority of Australian women are between a size 10 and 16 but we either have mainstream models being a size 6-8 or the plus size models being 16-20???? Do you have any idea how effing confusing it is for young girls to see a size 8 model being " fat shamed" and at the same time seeing a size 20 plus size model being celebrated for being "curvy and fabulous"??? Sorry for the rant, great topic, it always makes me fired up! Hahaha... E
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RHP User
10 years ago
The government has Boards who assess the health risks of medications we are prescribed. Who is investigating what is actually in the food we eat and setting standards and healthy guidelines. There should be a quota of "real" ingredients per product to safe guard that we eat healthy food.... not chemically enhanced foods that taste good but have no nutrient benefit thus leaving the eater still feeling hungry and wanting more non-nutritious food! Its a vicious cycle. We will never stop convenience food being sold but we can make them better for us! Many people are time poor and not everyone enjoys cooking. It isn't always laziness that causes obesity. For example, when someone works very long hours and finishes work regularly at 8 or 9pm. The last thing they feel like doing is cooking dinner at that time of night. They eat what is convenient and then go to sleep. So many jobs are sedentary too. I think our whole lifestyle is out of whack! Lack of sleep is a contributing factor too. The choices of food.... even the healthy salads ...aren't as tasty as they used to be. They have less vitamins and minerals because of the forced growth and early picking that prevents the full flavour and sugars to develop. None of these are excuses but they are definitely contributing factors. LG
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl'There should be a quota of "real" ingredients per product to safe guard that we eat healthy food.... not chemically enhanced foods that taste good but have no nutrient benefit thus leaving the eater still feeling hungry and wanting more non-nutritious food! Its a vicious cycle. We will never stop convenience food being sold but we can make them better for us! How does a "real ingredient" prevent obesity caused by overconsumption? We do have ingredient requirements for many staple products already e.g. milk must meet requirements to be classed as certain types of milk. Even meat pies have certain requirements to be called a meat pie (it is famously somewhat iffy, but it's meat inside pastry, it is what it is) What is the healthy real food quota you can legislate on cream? it is essentially a suspension of fat and water. It's fine in moderation, but as anyone who has consumed a good portion of a tub of King Island double thick cream will tell you... it's fucking tasty, and all real, but after that large quantity you feel pretty seedy shortly after (but damn it tastes good). I can sit down with a good amount of hippie-approved organic-certified fair-trade free-range raw milk, and enjoy enough of it's creamy fresh unpasteurised goodness to turn me into a nice big butterball. I can do the same with olive oil or similar thing to suit the vegan audience, or pineapples or any other high sugar fruit. Unless the state is going to put us on a mandatory ration system, you can't legislate what people eat to that degree. You can introduce taxation incentives to modify behaviour, but it still doesn't prevent overconsumption, and it doesn't prevent someone deciding that instead of a responsible use of butter on their wholemeal sandwich as most of us might do, they're not going to just stuff the whole stick in their gob and use the bread to wipe up their greasy fingers. If someone was to argue that the methods of calculating caloric content of food was flawed and this needed to be changed, I'd definitely agree. The methods of testing calorie content sucks, it also doesn't account for the bioavailability, and in protein testing the nitrogen contents can throw whacky results out. (I think the last couple of paragraphs are correct, sleep and time constraints are major pressures)
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RHP User
10 years ago
To all who have shoved those unnecessary pounds! I am a bit open minded when it comes to the obese. I have stacked on the weight which has been a combo of medical issues, emotional eating and plain laziness! I think there are always multiple contributing factors when it comes to obesity. Personally I have ADHD and apparently sugar is highly addictive (more so) for people with ADHD. It works as a stimulant and as such the cravings are hard to ignore. Other stimulants - caffeine, nicotine and illicit drugs statistically have a much higher user group for those with ADHD just out of interest. And I have a chronic illness which limits me at times with energy. But the thing is I know about it - so it can't be used as an excuse! Does it make it harder for me than someone who doesn't have challenges? Hell yeh! But does it make it impossible? Hello no! Education is power and so is being a good role model for the younger generation. I watched a doco on obesity where scientists studied people with over eating issues. They had much higher levels of certain hormones which triggered them to feel hunger more than they should along with different neurotic responses under MRI. Science has come a long way. I think if you are aware that you are prone to overeating, piling on the pounds etc though you have two choices - lie down and put all the blame on conditions/situations which make it more challenging to stay healthy - or educate yourself and try what you can within your means to feel good. Having said that - because I am so aware of how emotions and illness play a role in how and what someone eats and how inactive/active they are, I don't tar everyone with the same brush. I detest BMI measurements with a passion! It's an outdated system which has an unhealthy impact of people's self esteem. Most rugby league players are considered morbidly obese using BMI. It's sad that the younger generation has a shorter life expectancy than their grandparents. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I agree with much of what you say in that you can't legislate for common sense or moderation or good decision making. But I disagree with your examples that infer that "fat" and fatty foods are the issue, I think for most people the enemy is too much carbohydrate particularly highly refined but including rice, pasta and potatoe. From my research into over 50 health we should be cutting back on carbs to cut the fat accumulation and boosting up the protein to maintain healthy muscle mass.In tribal society the elderly are given the best meat first. They know this.
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boobsandbusted
10 years ago
Nothing tastes as good, as fit and healthy feels , for me, feels is a Double meaning ,like inside healthy, yippeeee and outside feels ,nice buns, Hun ,lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting '50wetfigs' I agree with much of what you say in that you can't legislate for common sense or moderation or good decision making. But I disagree with your examples that infer that "fat" and fatty foods are the issue, I think for most people the enemy is too much carbohydrate particularly highly refined but including rice, pasta and potatoe. From my research into over 50 health we should be cutting back on carbs to cut the fat accumulation and boosting up the protein to maintain healthy muscle mass.In tribal society the elderly are given the best meat first. They know this. Hey figs, I wasn't intending them as "fat is bad" examples - just "calorie dense, single ingredient 'natural' food" e.g cream, butter, olive oil. (I agree re carbohydrate, and over 50's health)
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DynamicCouple36
10 years ago
When we decided to get back to our weight that we were at, when we got married almost 19 years ago (we did this in Oct 2012) we cut out all carbs (except for 30 grams raw uncooked oats for breakfast ) , cut out sugar , alcohol , processed foods , and instead enjoyed protein (rump steak , chicken , fish ) nuts , fresh fruit, vegetables & salad. Sugar & Carbs are highly addictive . The withdrawal symptoms were tough for the first week but became easy with time . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Many years ago, I gained 19 kgs within a year because of the medication I was placed on. Almost overnight, I went from someone who was approached by men a lot to someone whom no man would give a second glance to. From attractive and sought after, to fat and invisible. About three or four years ago, I participated in an annual month-long semi-fast where I ate mainly vegetables with the occasional chicken and seafood. I have never felt more energetic and light-footed! I learnt to listen to my body whenever I ate - the minute I am full, STOP! Pack the remnants away for the next meal. If I felt bloated / sick / sluggish after a meal, I'd ponder over which food might have caused me to react that way and made sure to avoid it. I started to take DigestEase and Probiotics to deal with digestion issues. I have never felt better! Last year, due to extreme stress in the workplace and in my personal life, I lost 10 kgs in 8 months. I had continued with the good dietary choices from the annual semi-fasts and had reduced my portion sizes. I maintained the weight loss over the Christmas period, yay! I very very rarely stuff myself silly. If I open a bag of potato chips, it lasts 3 to 4 weeks for me. I would watch TV but be mindful of what I was eating by eating slowly and tasting every morsel and the minute I stopped getting satisfaction from the taste and started to experience Diminishing Returns, I stopped eating it. Economics concepts can be applied to our eating habits too! LOL!!! This year, I am going to see if I can push myself to lose another 10 kgs at least. There's nothing "healthy" nor "beautiful" about obesity and proponents for obesity have to evaluate their true understanding of how the body functions and the adverse physiological effects of chronic poor dietary choices. Even though I still have lots of weight to lose, losing that initial 10 kgs gave me the sensation of being able to "run with the gazelles". That has restored my confidence much better than any anti-depressant or whatever meds or quack therapies could. Dragging out old clothes tossed in the wardrobe because I could no longer fit into them, and discovering that yay!!!... I can fit into them once more, is priceless! As your confidence improves, your love of self and self-esteem improves and when that happens, you find that you do not have any urge to eat junk food all the time or mistreat your body by eating lousy food. Somehow, you will naturally want to eat well because you want to treat your body right. So, I would say that there is a huge link between obesity and one's emotional and psychological state. Tackle the root cause of the obesity, and the rest will follow very easily. Until obese folks actually WANT to do it for themselves, no amount of convincing / Dr's appts / fad diets / diet tablets, etc will work. Once people discover the joy and sheer bliss in living well, eating well, and being healthy, it's much easier to build the discipline that is required to incorporate good eating and lifestyle habits. Next challenge... back to aquatic sports! And then, perhaps... pole dancing!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Oh! One more tip! To help me restrict the amount I ate each meal, I started to downsize my containers used to pack lunch to work, my saucepans and pots, and my crockery. That forces you to cook smaller amounts which means you ultimately end up eating less. I have small palm-sized saucepans and tiny Japanese plates and bowls. Even if you eat whilst watching TV, you won't end up over-eating and if you keep having to break the mindless TV-watching to head to the kitchen to top up your plate, you'll realise, "Oh hey, wait! I'm eating too much!" because when we watch TV during dinnertime, the tendency is to shovel everything into your mouth without realising if you're already more than full a good 15 minutes ago. :P I love my evolving Thumbelina kitchen! LOL!!!
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Seachange73
10 years ago
I wish I could downsize things.on my kitchen. Lol. Sounds cute though and.well done if it works for.you. I have a semi professional kitchen with all.the accoutrements to cook an easy stir fry to cordon blue dishes. My varying size woks to pots suits me fine as I do love cooking for friends n family. Having two constantly hungry teenage boys which means the fridge and freezer is beaming with food and stacked to.the hilt. I plan my meals a week in advanced, lots if marinades done in the weekend then cook and serve the.BBQ meats with lots of salad. We hardly indulge in sweets. I stick a daily menu for breakfast lunch and dinner on ky fridge to keep a variety of dishes on offer from Korean to Malaysian to French and Italian to Indian. I cook for 5 people when I have my two boys as they always have two serves. Great thing is I bulk buy at the Asian fresh food market once a week (Springvale or Victoria market) for cheap deals and variety. Cheaper than supermarkets by at least 30-50%. My fridge and fruit basket is always full fruits n veggies. Having fruits is a great way to satiate hunger before a meal. Keep going with your healthy choices and we'll done with your weight loss.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Lily, we have so much in common! My pantry is stocked with condiments, spices, and dry goods for a wide range of cuisine as well! For lunch one day, I had Moroccan Couscous with Panko-crumbed Prawns and Stir-fried Teriyaki vegetables served with Goji Berries and Chia seeds! And of course, a little dollop of that Kewpie mayo. Sometimes, I'll get 1/2 Coles Roast chicken which lasts three meals for me and I vary the sauces that go with it - Korean Spicy Bulgolgi sauce, American Brown Sugar BBQ Sauce, French Mustard, Red Onion and Cranberry Relish, Teriyaki Sauce... It makes one roast chicken taste very different. I think this is where it really helps to chew slowly and TASTE one's food and mindfully savour the taste and texture. This helps one to be aware of how fresh and delicious the food is and eradicates the desire for dessert, which is unnecessary especially when one has had a large meal already and is bursting at the seams. :P Eating mindfully has meant that I become aware of the point when I am full and I stop eating, even if there's still a lot left on my plate. Yada yada yada... all this talk and on my first date with Mr Dream Boat, I was soooooooo hopelessly attracted to him that I ate more than I should! :P What diet? When it comes to Mr Dream Boat, I want a smorgasbond of his body! OK... I shall stop drooling... Hehehe! Thank goodness Mr Dream Boat is too busy to read the forums! :D I used to love cooking for friends but atm, I live modestly and I do not have a dinner table to entertain friends with. I laugh when I think of you having to feed two teenage sons - I'm sure they eat up everything in your fridge as fast as cookie monster! Hehe! I hope they clean up after themselves... but in reality, dream on! LOL!!! I often dream of having to take care of kids during the period after school and until their parents finish work to pick them up. I actually contacted Big Brothers Big Sisters to see if I could be a volunteer and was really sad that they are not active in Melbourne City. The flip side of my Thumbelina Kitchen and new eating habits is that I often end up having to throw produce out because I do not eat them fast enough. That's when I really wish I have a non-fussy person to cook for - it helps to keep the produce fresh! LOL!!! My dream man is one who will eat whatever I place on the table in front of him, and one who can't cook well so that he appreciates my food. I have no patience for fussy eaters. :P Some guys try to impress me by boasting about what good cooks they are but that will be like trying to sell ice to an Eskimo! It's a different ballgame altogether if the man can do a good BBQ and I'm talking good old fashioned American BBQ Ribs and such. I do not eradicate sweets - I just eat them in controlled doses. I love good-quality chocolates with nuts or coconut, and I love to suck on the occasional Japanese candy. The trouble is, I throw out so much expired cookies, sweets, etc that I feel really awful. I buy Tim Tam's maybe twice a year, never get to eat half of it before it expires and into the trash bin it goes. I comfort myself by thinking that at least, all that sugar is in the bin, not on my hips and belly!
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DynamicCouple36
10 years ago
Prior to moving to Australia we had not before heard the term BBW (Big Beautiful Woman) . We assume this is a term adopted by some women /given to some women , who may be obese/ overweight. Correct us if we are wrong. Being overweight/obese is not healthy, that's a known fact. If one were to call oneself a BBW, would this be denial on ones part that one had a weight problem ? ie I am proud to be a BBW? Would it be avoiding the truth, that being overweight is not healthy and that at the end of the day only you are responsible for what you eat. Eat too much of the wrong foods and you will become overweight. Why coin the term BBW? On the flip side of the coin, if a slim woman were to refer to herself as a SSW (Sexy/Sensual Slim Woman) would this offend others who were overweight? And if so why the double standards? And then there appears to be a belief (amongst so many men on these swinger sites - judging by chat room comments ) that BBW are easier to get into bed (more desperate due to insecurity issues ) than their stuck up skinny Barbie Doll counterparts, and that slim women are not beautiful inside, but that all overweight women are. So much stereotyping with regards peoples perceptions. When we were overweight were we nicer people than when we lost our weight? Or was it just that overweight people perceived us as being nicer people because we too were overweight and as such they had something in common with them? Judging a book by its cover? If we see someone driving a Ferrari down Chapel Street, do we say to ourselves "Stupid rich nasty poser . They have all that money but cannot be happy ?" Now if we had a Ferrari would we feel the same about others who had a Ferrari? Perhaps this is all about jealousy and insecurity? When we shed our 30 & 23 Kg we lost a couple of good friends (at least we thought they were good friends). They were very overweight , and we used to BBQ with them almost every weekend and watched as they piled on the food, potato salad, pasta salad, bread rolls ..... And we used to do the same until we decided to lose weight. And then we would pile on a fresh green salad and a piece of rump steak instead. Anyway, when we had lost all our weight, and were looking much slimmer & healthier, they unfriended us, telling us that OUR weight loss made THEM uncomfortable. It came as a bit of a shock to us . Did our weight loss make them feel jealous? Insecure? Perhaps they felt guilty that we could do it but that they did not have the willpower to follow suit? Not once did we ever tell them that they needed to lose weight. We have another group of friends (husband , wife, son & daughter) who are all extremely overweight. And we have noticed that it may be due to insecurities of the mother. She perhaps feels insecure about her weight and so makes sure to overfeed her husband and children, so that she does not look so bad. We have watched as she piles on the food for them, encouraging them to eat more and more. She also bakes several cakes a day. Eating is a pleasurable thing. The process releases feel good hormones, and we suppose that eating is addictive. Food manufacturers know this, which is why they are sure to include combinations of ingredients that fuel this addiction : sugar, fat & carbs combined in one product are highly addictive. (recall reading some or other study on that ) It is a lot harder, and less pleasurable, to lose weight than it is to put it on. Sigh !! No pain, no gain as the saying goes.
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RHP User
10 years ago
... for going on and on. :P I LOVE food and cooking. :D Hard to decide whether my appetite for food or for sex is greater! Thankfully, if one is a sex maniac, one doesn't become "obese" in any way. Hehehe!
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Seachange73
10 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' To all who have shoved those unnecessary pounds! I am a bit open minded when it comes to the obese. I have stacked on the weight which has been a combo of medical issues, emotional eating and plain laziness! I detest BMI measurements with a passion! It's an outdated system which has an unhealthy impact of people's self esteem. Most rugby league players are considered morbidly obese using BMI. - Posted from rhpmobile I agree. It is definitely outdate. My lover's body is that of a rugby player, big, wide shoulders, strong and muscly. He was deemed 'bordeline obese' due to his BMI index result. Nothing fat about my friend and it does play havoc on one's self-esteem. But to his credit he is turning this into a positive, working out more in the gym and with me!!! How can i complain? Lol.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Congratulations for losing all that weight together and converting to a healthier lifestyle! I'm sure your energy levels have increased much since losing all that weight! Applause for you guys! I'm glad you brought up really good points about the "BBW" term. I think you can have women of Size 18 who have large bone structures and not much %age of fat and you can have a Size 10 lady who is flabby with a higher fat percentage. I tend to think of it this way : going by the bone structure, maybe I am supposed to be a Size 14. If I am a Size 22 instead, then there IS a huge problem! That's why I think BMI is a really poor indicator of ideal weight and think the fat percentage measurement is much better. Acknowledging that there IS an obesity problem is a huge first step for the folks in this category. Recently, I was aghast when I realised that there are actually folks who ought to have ticked "Large" for Body Type who think and believe that they are "Average"!!! I believe on RHP, "Large" is a good three boxes down from "Average"! If obese folks delude themselves into thinking that big = beautiful and that "big" is due to a grossly high fat %age and not muscular / bone mass, then there is a HUGE problem. You cannot start to fix a problem unless you acknowledge that there is a problem first. Sure it's uncomfortable to feel unattractive and one might even have to deal with shame / guilt, etc. But I went through all that before I decided that enough is enough and I am going to bloody reclaim my old self back! I was yesterday, priivy to a conversation between Drs about their experience with helping patients with weight loss. One GP declared that a lot of times, the patients are themselves not really ready for what it takes to lose weight, and without a positive, disciplined mindset, they have already lost the battle before they have even started fighting it! He was frustrated that a lot of times, his suggestion that his patients look at their diet and cut down on fat, sugar and carbs and decrease portion sizes was met with protests like, "My blood sugar will dip and I will faint if I eat so little!" / "I will be forever starving!" / "I cannot eat that little!", etc etc etc. These patients aren't ready to roll up their sleeves and actually DO something. They are perhaps still in denial and I believe that Denial is the attitude that conceived the "BBW" tag. In order for the Australian govt to handle the obesity problem and grab the bull by the horns, a multi-pronged approach has to be adopted. Obese people not only need the assistance of GP's and Dietitians, they will also require psychological support because over-eating tends to have an emotional basis ("I am sad / life feels so empty so I eat to comfort myself and I don't feel so bad anymore after having that Coke / Snickers / whatever!") and a personal trainer / coach. I don't believe in that Biggest Loser crap... someday, one of the obese folks will collapse from a heart attack or stroke out because you cannot go from zero to hero overnight! The key is to focus on good eating habits and a sustainable healthy lifestyle. The Aussie govt will reap a lot back in terms of decreased healthcare costs if they adopt a pre-emptive and pro-active approach in this obesity crisis. Obesity predisposes one to too many chronic health issues. Dynamic Couple, it's not surprising that you've lost those friends because whenever they saw you eating well, they would have felt massive discomfort and guilt because they KNOW they ought to do that too, but it's too much effort. We only see our own faults sometimes when someone who is doing what we ought to do is standing right in front of us and we see our own reflection against the shiny veneer of someone who's doing it right. Your friends had two choices : Join in and embrace the new lifestyle and collaborate with you guys towards a healthier lifestyle OR refuse to change and huddle together and comfort each other and view you guys as "intruders". That's life, but don't give up your great work! You'll have like-minded friends and you can all encourage each other towards the same goals.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl'There should be a quota of "real" ingredients per product to safe guard that we eat healthy food.... not chemically enhanced foods that taste good but have no nutrient benefit thus leaving the eater still feeling hungry and wanting more non-nutritious food! Its a vicious cycle. We will never stop convenience food being sold but we can make them better for us! How does a "real ingredient" prevent obesity caused by overconsumption? Many of the examples you give in your comment are valid but not what I was making my comment about. I watched an English short series of documentaries which analysed foods readily available in supermarkets and then they interviewed the manufacturers on the process and went to the factory and showed the products being made (sorry I can't remember the name of the series) It was interesting and also alarming and highlighted the chemical cocktails of artificial or man made ingredients that had no nutrient benefit at all. They made the person ingesting them feel sated for a short term. They were high in calories and shortly after eating them the person was feeling hungry again. The one product that stuck in my mind was a protein that looked and tasted like sausage meat but was actually made from some sort of waste product (I think it was the scum left over from processing soy for something else). It was cleaned and then whipped into a solid state combining with additives, stabilisers, preservatives, artificial colours and flavouring. Finally it was piped into pastry casings to resemble sausage rolls. There was no meat in it at all. What the consumer was eating was a whole lot of chemicals and carbs. It was marketed and sold in the health food aisle. My point is that food manufacturers should have a responsibility to label things correctly. eg. if a product contains sausage "meat" then there should be some meat in the product not something that tastes like it. Highly processed foods can't be good for us but there will always be times when people opt for convenience food. Why shouldn't convenience food be "real" food? LG
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RHP User
10 years ago
The human body is the most amazing and complex piece of machinery, that serves us well. We can abuse it in a variety of ways and it will continue to function but at times you can honour and respect it and it will still let you down I'm 5ft 8 and my weight fluctuates roughly between 47 and 56 kilos I'm a bit of a health fanatic. I work out 6 days a week either at the gym, swim, kick boxing, body combat, etc. I eat a low sugar diet, lots of fruit and veg, nuts and protein and complex carbs. I do not smoke and rarely even drink alcohol now I'll be the first to tell you that I'm fortunate that I have genetics on my side and have always had a slim athletic build and I'm also fortunate that I like working out. I feel fit and healthy and on top of the world after a session However it would be fair to say that according to my Doctor I am not "healthy" I recently had a full medical in anticipation for a work positon My body fat came back at 18 percent, but my cholesterol was high and so was my blood pressure. When I questioned this with my doctor, he simply told me that this was my genetic makeup and that I should learn to stress less. I practice yoga and pilates on a regular basis but it would be fair to say that I do have a nervous disposition. I do tend to stress and when I stress and worry I shed weight and become agitated/tired and in winter I am very susceptible to colds/bronchitis etc. I've tried to address this issue as best I can. To calm the fuck down and just chill but its hard to change what essentially is in your DNA. I'm self aware but its hard to change. When I'm tired and run down which I am at the moment, I look gaunt and haggard, yet to many I have the ideal bod, tall and slim and a size 8-10 I love to have some reserve on my body, but I simply don't So just because one appears to have what many would like to achieve, it carries its own issues. I think its important to take care of what we have and be grateful if our bodies are functioning in the way they should . Obese or thin, pretty sure there are plenty of people that would swap places with any of us all in a moment, to experience a disease free body
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scubaboy69
10 years ago
Just lost 10 kg over six months to a very healthy weight and half of that with the help of the lovely jessicaj Thanks babe!!
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RHP User
10 years ago
I appreciate what your saying, I'm not sure legislation is the answer, how about people taking a bit more personal responsibility for what goes in their mouths ?
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Seachange73
10 years ago
Quoting 'PurePeony' Lily, we have so much in common! My pantry is stocked with condiments, spices, and dry goods for a wide range of cuisine as well! ......Korean Spicy Bulgolgi sauce, I used to love cooking for friends but atm, I live modestly and I do not have a dinner table to entertain friends with. I laugh when I think of you having to feed two teenage sons - I'm sure they eat up everything in your fridge as fast as cookie monster! Hehe! I hope they clean up after themselves... but in reality, dream on! LOL!!! I often dream of having to take care of kids during the period after school and until their parents finish work to pick them up. I actually contacted Big Brothers Big Sisters to see if I could be a volunteer and was really sad that they are not active in Melbourne City. The flip side of my Thumbelina Kitchen and new eating habits is that I often end up having to throw produce out because I do not eat them fast enough. That's when I really wish I have a non-fussy person to cook for - it helps to keep the produce fresh! LOL!!! My dream man is one who will eat whatever I place on the table in front of him, and one who can't cook well so that he appreciates my food. I have no patience for fussy eaters. :P I hear you. My teenage boys are wonderful and have been exposed to various cuisine since they were babies via regular trips to restaurants, regular overseas trips to North america and Asia and Europe. The exposure to different cultures and way of lives and making friends with the local children (specially in Bali, Bangkok and Philippines) has been instrumental in getting them grounded and appreciate the variety of cuisine and produce available across the globe. Korean BBQ Pork Bulgogi (spicy) is a regular staple and I make my own marinade from scratch and so with teriyaki beef. Variety is also very important. I was preparing our lunches early this morning (Vietnamese baguettes with roast chicken, homemade carrot pickles, fresh herbs and chilli) while my boys were making brekky. We talked about food and my oldest son mentioned how his mate, a vegan was an awful cook and vegan food need not be tasteless. so he visited his mate and his housemate and made them dinner and showed them a few Thai and Indian recipes his mates can use. They love him and always gets calls from them on cooking advice! Lol. I always get the kids to help in the kitchen and they understand the spices and ingredients that goes into the preparation. being a single working mother, it is imperative that we need to work as a team like cogs in wheels. I always consult them what they want for the week to help me plan the food shopping, buy the fresh food produce at the market (we break up the tasks of buying stuff) and food preparation. Aside from fruits, all the meats and sauces are prepared ahead of time and in portions. large portions. Lol. My sons can cook very well from vegan food to bbqued meats. Their dad being a North American is very much a carnivore and I am borderline vegetarian with love for occasional meat. Love my seafood though. So education is the key for teaching them good eating habits from a very early stage. and that includes food preparation and teaching them what are 'good' carbs/oils and 'bad' carbs/oils. also proportions. My kids hate McDonald, KFC and Hungry Jacks. Surprisingly they like Subway, because they can choose the ingredients and can have more salad in their meal. Being an active family, all of us heavily into martial arts and sports, we all train almost daily, sometimes go for evening runs together, and share our love for healthy clean food. A small tub of ice cream (1 litre) will last us up to a month as we will have seasonal fruits for dessert or have a homemade mango or raspberry lassi instead. Eating healthy need not be expensive. It just requires some planning and a little discipline. Eating seasonal fruits and vegies are best and healthier for all of us as they are guaranteed not stored for months at a time. we buy australian grown seasonal fruits/vegies and organic if we can help it (and afford it). but all in moderation. Understanding how the food we take also affects our system and performance is important and the timing of ingesting these foods. I hardly touch alcohol, much to the dismay of my friends at times. And there are some alcohol i stay away from when I can because of what it does to me and my metabolism. Mainly beer and white wine. but good to know our cupboards are full of these ingredients and there is so much healthy selection out there. Now if I can just limit my strong soy latte intake, I will be a happy woman...
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Haleakala
10 years ago
My understanding of BMI is that it was developed as a tool to compare populations not individuals. However the ease of use compared to other methods of quantifying obesity means it is being used for individuals. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
10 years ago
Quoting 'Summer_solstice' Adopt me. I shall cook for you and make you pile up those 8ks you just lost. Lol.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I love how you involve your kids in the menu planning and in cooking! Maybe I shall see one of them on Masterchef someday? I love how global your kitchen is! I've come across Aussie colleagues who turn their noses up at sushi (!!!) and think that all Asian snacks are "dodgy"! When I brought a delectable dish of Indonesian Gado Gado (Vegetable Salad and Rice Cakes with Satay Sauce) to a Christmas party last year, the adults tried it and all loved it! But the teenagers and kids adamantly refused to try even a morsel because it's not something they are familiar with. An elderly gentleman, I think the patriarch of the family, walked up to me and happily said it was "spectacular" but even so, the fussy eaters kept away from it. Thanks for sharing! I enjoyed reading it tremendously! I agree with you that education is key! Usually, when you have obese parents in the family, chances are the kids will end up with childhood obesity because they have no one to learn good eating habits from. If I ever have the fortune of living in a large house, I'm going to invite you, your boys, Annie, and a few others and cook up a storm for you guys! PS. My ice-cream tub(s) usually stay in the freezer for such a long time that they get discarded eventually as they would've usually expired before I even consume 1/2 of it. I seriously need to find a man to feed to cut down on food wastage! LOL!!!
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DynamicCouple36
10 years ago
Thanks for the compliment and good wishes. Yes our weight loss has been life changing. So much more energy and vitality. No more sleep apnoea. A much more vigorous sex life .... the rewards have been great. Mr D was the one who decided to make the changes. Whilst he was not overweight (89kg when he started) he wanted to get fit in preparation for two major craniotomies he was told he would need to have (in August 2012 he signed the consent forms). A few days later he went on a 2 week herbal detox and started running .... and to date (touch wood) has not had those ops. Mrs D just tagged along for the ride, lost the weight with him (she lost 30 Kg) and we both had to get a whole new wardrobe ... an expensive process, but what fun.
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RHP User
10 years ago
With a number of causes. I never had to worry about my weight until recently - combination of genetic luck and and always being fairly active meant I could pretty much eat what I wanted within reason. Last 18 months or so though have seen some big struggles with health issues and associated decline in physical activity plus a bit more comfort eating. I'm nowhere near overweight but for the first time I've noticed a bit of a weight gain...obviously getting older doesn't help there, even 5 years ago I still might have got away with it but not now. I'm lucky in the sense that I have the knowledge to know what I need to do to get myself back to a fitter state. It seems like common sense to many of us, but fact is that there are many people who simply don't have the knowledge about food and exercise and the links to health. Not to mention all the other barriers (google social determinants of health).
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl' The one product that stuck in my mind was a protein that looked and tasted like sausage meat but was actually made from some sort of waste product (I think it was the scum left over from processing soy for something else). It was cleaned and then whipped into a solid state combining with additives, stabilisers, preservatives, artificial colours and flavouring. Finally it was piped into pastry casings to resemble sausage rolls. There was no meat in it at all. What the consumer was eating was a whole lot of chemicals and carbs. It was marketed and sold in the health food aisle. My point is that food manufacturers should have a responsibility to label things correctly. eg. if a product contains sausage "meat" then there should be some meat in the product not something that tastes like it. Highly processed foods can't be good for us but there will always be times when people opt for convenience food. Why shouldn't convenience food be "real" food? LG I take your point that lots of foods in the "health food" aisle aren't really "health foods" by certain measures - e.g. protein bars that are high in protein... but even higher in sugar. But that is why we have mandatory food labelling laws. At some point people have to take a bit of responsibility and read the labels. I'm not on the "anti processed food" bandwagon, they have their place - whey protein is pretty damn processed, so are most supplements - an unprocessed protein supplement is called a chicken, they're hard to fit into a drink shaker ;) Whole 'real' foods just aren't generally as easy to stuff ridiculous amounts of calories in when compared to some more processed foods (even whole foods have different caloric/nutrient densities - people might remember the ad showing the truckload of spinach you'd need to consume to get the same amount of iron as in a small steak). Organic, non-GMO, artificial chemical free, etc foods aren't necessarily higher quality or better for you. What are these 'chemicals' that people don't like and what are their effects? I often see them poo-pooed, but it seems like the 'toxins' mentioned on cleanse diets, rarely does it give any specifics and without that details it is hard to know if it is reasoned comment backed with science or has fallen into the trap of thinking "natural = good, artificial=bad". (this isn't to say some foods don't have chemicals that don't have negative effects, but I can't think of any examples where that isn't also at overconsumption levels... ignoring that that is a bit of a tautology e.g. any consumption of plutonium is overconsumption to an unsafe level) :-) this post isn't meant in an argumentative tone, it's an interesting topic :-)
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