re classy establishment

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  haven't been to it yet, but the problem is with a classy place, is will people pay for it? Class takes big money, like will a couple pay $200-300 to go? rent on the place, equpiment, entertainment etc. not a cheap thing to do, if you do it right so come on couples, lets turn this into a real good forum for us couples, what does make a classy place to go and what would you be prepared to pay for it??

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  We have had this discussion on many occasion - how viable is it to actually have an upmarket establishment for like minded couples? It is understood that "classy" is a relative term though and of course lots of people feel more comfortable and relaxed in jeans than in an evening dress or a suit. However, some of us who have had a peek at the various clubs around Perth invariably wonder what would it take to set up a venue with good quality furnishings and fittings in an atmosphere of sexy sophistication. The economic viability of it all though in relation to Perth's population seems to dwindle that idea down to "buckleys or none". So far our thoughts have led to the occasional hiring out a high quality hotel suite. We know this has been done before successfully. The hardest bit is always the organisation and getting the confirmed numbers of couples that would like to dress up for a night of class, convivial atmosphere and erotic anticipation. Love to hear others' thoughts on the topic though.

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  Hugh heffner has to move the playboy mansion to perth!!!He has the business skills and time,as he already has the "CAPITAL"(which is paramount)and would instantly realise in Perth he won't recoup his money ,it would be a hobby ,what a great hobby,now thats unlikely. We have often thought of sponsorship from small to large business,but perth is still a "big village" with links and exposure to our "lifestyle",the sponsors will be frowned upon.I think adultshop/taboo/clubx/etc would be the perfect sponsors,they may have attempted this in the past (does anyone know)but it will still come down "to the bottom line" and i,m sure they would have done the sums. Client base/memberships,the entry fee would obviously be determined by the initial investment and weekly outgoings,too high and you run the risk of not enough bodies ,aswell as the same ole faces each week if its to exclusive,and to cheap you will let the "riff raff"in lol. Agree wholely with the points made above especially elysian,so back to "heff" retiring to sunny ole Perth,or anyone else with the balls and money !!! These are our views not directed at any individuals .

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  spoken to a friend of ours that works in the sex industry,she told us that mary anne kenworthy of langtrees fame had a go at an exclusive upmarket swingers club in perth a few years ago.Apparently they had a few good promotional evenings in plush surroundings,but once again it was the $150 a couple price tag that scared of most people,these figures are,nt deadly accurate alcohol can make you exaggerate a little .So did anyone go to any of these nights would love to know why it did,nt work,i know LP'S was the end result of it all ,anyone got any more info?

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  Yes we go to LP's all the time, definately more upmarket than the other clubs around and always seem to be a good bunch of people there, new and regulars. Think roughly $60 per couple, google Ladies Playground, will tell you all about it. shy

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  Quite possibly going into commercial factory area and into a converted factory wasnt "classy" enough for a lot of people plus being a fair way out of the city itself would be a drawback to a lot of people on the opposite side of the river.These are assumptions only as we never attended any events there or at its previous name of P1 so have no real idea,other than second hand descriptions,of the place itself. Personally speaking I think it is or can be self defeating to have a "classy" set of dress rules for an event that is primarily aimed at getting out of your clothes,classy or otherwise. We have had and do hold parties (we dont advertise just word of mouth) ourselves and dont have dress codes to be obeyed and have never found anyone attending that has been "scruffy" or badly dressed,again this is just our opinion and everyone has one. bothtogether6

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  playfulminx

  18 years ago

  I don't think enough people appreciate what is involved in trying to get parties and clubs going. It's more often than not a labour of love and few people go into it expecting to make a huge amount of profit. I appreciate the main theme of this thread being that if a club can charge a lot of money, then the expectation is for it to deliver. That's a fair call but in my experience, a club or party is as good as the support it gets from the people who attend. You can have all the capital and business acumen in the world but I simply don't think Perth has the population to really get anything seriously up-market going like Les Chandelles in Paris or Fun4Two in Amsterdam. I think owners of clubs would appreciate constructive criticism to improve their business, rather than simply being bagged as being tacky or soul-less. What is it that you EXACTLY expect from a club? Let them know :)

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  So freofuntimes, making a negative comment without actually saying what you didn't like about the place doesn't say very much. Maybe if you could say what you didn't like exactly or you had approached the owner on the night or emailed him, then perhaps your suggestions could be looked at and fix those things that you think are tacky. The club is happy to hear any suggestions that the customers may have. It has taken a lot of time, money and effort to get the Burswood club off the ground. It takes time to develop a club like this by getting peoples trust in you and support from regular clientele. With that support more money will go into the club and more can be done to develop the club further. The club is in an excellent position, very central. So please come along and support the Burswood club and then you may all have somewhere nice to go.

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  Firery

  18 years ago

  This topic is something we are very passionate about, not only the topic but the Lifestyle. We can see both sides of the arguement and also agree with what is being said. We have been in the lifestyle for 17 plus years and managed/run the biggest adult club in Australia, so we can fairly say we know alot about the lifestyle. A club only is as good as the support it gets from the public, also a club needs to cater for most peoples needs. This is where is gets difficult because in this lifestyle there is so many tastes to cater for. Plus there is many differant forms of swinging and some include, Voyeurism, soft play, part swap, full swap, BDSM, then the scenarios for example, FFM, MFM, MFMF, MMF etc, plus on top of that there is bedroom rules and play edicate which is just too hard to get into here. Puting the differant styles of swinging aside for now, a club itself needs to cater for all people with good entertainment and relaxation for any swing to even take place. Yes granted there is the hardcore swingers that just desire to get it on, no questions asked etc and they are easy to cater for from a club perspective. But they are usually not the target audience of a good adult club. Clubs do costs alot to setup and run and yes obviously the costs are passed onto the people that attend. There is no other answer to this unless like said in a post here, a good sponsor. Although this has been tried and some will sponsor but only on special events. We have found most of the sex shops, sex companies etc dont get alot of value out of Adult Clubs simply because they have wider audiences to target. Perth is still a small town compared to other capital cities in Australia, but one thing is for sure, per capita there is more swingers per head in Perth than other capital cities. The down side though is society and people in general still do not accept the lifestyle. Sadly it is still considered dirty and sleazy by the community as a whole. This is an area that needs alot more work to inform people out there that the lifestyle is not like that at all. It was not too many years ago that Nudists were treated badly by society, they were called all sorts of names and even called pedofiles simply because they had naked children as well in the Nudist Colonies. Thankfully nudists are now accepted as part of everyday life and left alone. This is what we desire to see for our lifestyle, to simply be acknowledged and left alone. It just takes time and commitment, and we have been promoting our lifestyle for many years and we are getting there albeit slowly. The main point we are trying to make is all of us need to work together for the greater good of the lifestyle and promote the lifestyle more. Infighting gets us nowhere except a bad reputation from those who shun us now. What we have is great but lets work harder together to make it better. We have plans ourselves in the pipeline for a new club, but as said in another post here, it takes alot of money but the main thing it takes is dedication and commitment. We have lots of that and will make our next club better and something totally new to Perth. Yes we have he time, dedication and commitment, its more the funds that are holding us back but maybe soon we will get over that hurdle. This has been a long reply, but for us to say what we feel it is the only way we can do it. At the end of the day it comes down to being ourselves, taking a deep breath, being accepting of others and their choice in what works for them in the lifestyle. Perth can support quite a few clubs small and big so lets work together for the better of OUR lifestyle..

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  My G/f and i went to Surf Board Company in Burswood and we had a great time, the people were very friendly, there was no pressure or expectation. The night we went there were a lot of people there and they do have everyones enjoyment in their mind. the night we went the sound needed some work but they happilly discussed that problem and were putting solutions in place. The spa is large and exceptionally clean, as were all the rooms. it is byo and all drinks are clearly marked and a barman was there to hand them over and there is security to make sure there are no problems. My g/f wrote a better description of the night in hot topics nov 18 but we will go again on the back of our 1st experience there.

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  RHP User

  18 years ago

  We totally agree with you playfullminx. I don't think anyone needs to worry about the successfulness of the club as from what I have seen it is become more and more successful every week. Basically I think that when you head off for a night out you will generally get what you put into it. The club is clean which for us as a couple is one of the most important things. We have been to a few clubs and private parties and almost always have a great time where ever we go. The reason is not because of any of the venues that we have attended and what they offer us but has more to do with the people we choose to spend our time with and our commitment to having fun and trying not to criticize everyone else. Wherever you go and whatever you do why not make the most of it. Have a laugh, smile a lot, look for the nice things in every situation and no matter where you go and what you do you will be able to reflect back and think…I’m so glad I didn’t waste my life complaining that something wasn’t quite what I expected or WHY DIDN’T SOMEONE ELSE MAKE ME HAVE A GOOD TIME. If you haven’t been to the new club why not give it a go. If you have been and didn’t like it then perhaps you should tell management what is bothering you and with a combined effort maybe a club will be born that most people can’t wait for the weekends for. Live Life, laugh lots, touch someone and keep smiling

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