so I am a tomboy

June 26 2015

but am good at acting feminine in public. A learnt behaviour to suit my corporate, mom-role and even dating style. I know we say we dont need to hide this but I see it more like adapting to my surrounds, where the means justify the ends. It has worked for me. It is more palatable to the people around me. Deep down i like to tussle. Growing up in the country where the whole outdoors, beach and bush is your playground, and not having access to $$ for nightclubs, nice designer clothes and having 3 older brothers who insist on making me their daily target practise made me learn to run fast away from dangerous games they concoct. I have very active teenage boys I do physical activities with, and they say their friends' mothers would nto go there. I am surrounded with testosterone, from home to work. for those who met me, I do not look it but I can be quite different from my rhp pictures. I practise martial arts and box, myt sports very demanding and physical, My mindset is very masculine when it comes to work and approach to a lot of things. I like to be a bit more sensitive (not that men are not , but in my experience, men are less sensitive) yet I find myself acting like the men around me. To my disappointment at times as I think I am more feminine. I was told by many men at gym that they get very surprised when I walk in into the gym in my suit and nice sexy clothes. then when i get into my boxing or muay thai gear, I change personality and become bullish and find me very aggressive and strong. they would have thought so. I am not living a lie but wonder if being a tomboy turns some men off. thoughts?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I guess I'm a mixture of girly and tom boy. As a child I loved playing with my meccano set and my match box cars etc. as much as I loved playing with my dolls. Same with clothes... my mom made lots of frilly dresses for me and I also wore lots of plain T-Shirts and shorts, and felt comfortable with both. I spent a lot of time with my Dad fishing, working on cars with him and doing boy-stuff, and lots of time with Mom baking, sewing, crafting. Being an only child meant I got to be both daughter & son, depending on my mood. Awesome! These days, I'd say the feminine side of me is what people see most. I love clothes, shoes, make up and getting my hair done. But I'm also lucky that I don't have to think about what to wear to work every day... steel caps and fluoro are my only options & I love it. I do put on make up, style my hair every day at work, and wear sexy underwear underneath the fluoro lol. I still like to feel girly and not look like one of the blokes. But I also like a good wrestle, I love watching sport, and I still like to go fishing and work on cars. And if I get my make up smudged and my clothes, hair & nails dirty doing those things... meh. I'll just have a shower afterwards :) So the bottom line is that I love the tom boy side of me. If guy is turned off by that, well, it's his loss.

  • tylannister

    tylannister

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Astrild' wear sexy underwear underneath the fluoro lol. Rarrrr..... Sorry, got distracted - on topic, though. For me - I'm totally into women that can look sharp and turned out for a night on the town or a presentation in front of the board (that's hot in it's own way) and be just as comfortable spattered in mud after three days of backpacking through the bush (love the way a woman looks after she's worked up a sweat through exercise...). I think that for a woman to be comfortable in both these environments says a lot about the strength of a woman's personality and her confidence. I'm attracted to strong women. ...not bodybuilder women, though. The ones that have muscles where you didn't know there were muscles? They kinda scare me. Not that kind of strong. You know what I mean.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    It depends on as to whether or not you could hold an intellectual conversation with yer mate or mates, whilst he or they polish the knob with the purple polish. If the purple polish has you wondering..... then you are just a girl. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Based on your test... I'm just a girl lol. The purple polish has me wondering :)

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    Anyone can copy cat, but coming up with the bright ideas is the truer testings. Consequences cause havoc and chaos, so by the time a girl figures out what the purple polish is... a man has already done it. Where do you think all the warning labels come from? Girls just want to have fun

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Although Ive worked on oil rigs and watch soccer with a passion, I love dressing up, make up, frilly lingerie, girlie days and nights out/in, flirting outrageously,.......... I just love being a girly girl. Instead of climbing the tree, Id be sitting underneath it with a male friend and a bottle of bubbles

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I have never been a tomboy or for that matter a girly girl...you will find me in an art gallery,a library,a museum...no not as one of the artefacts 😝a coffee shop or just gazing at the water and over to the island near where I live..I do love clothes though.particulrly silks,velvets and any fabric that is tactile..if I could use a sentence to describe me,it would be a little bit bohemian xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' It depends on as to whether or not you could hold an intellectual conversation with yer mate or mates, whilst he or they polish the knob with the purple polish. If the purple polish has you wondering..... then you are just a girl. Mado Mado Tara xx Mado. I've been a bloke all my life, have done everything from fixing cars. ripping engines out, hunting, shooting (killing animals and cutting them up for meat), white water rafting, abseiling, motorbike riding, building. I am completely practical & logical, and can only concentrate on one thing at a time (if I am watching sport I generally can't hear you talking to me). Yet, I have no idea what you mean by polishing the knob with purple polish (unless it is my own, and I would not hold any conversation with a mate playing with his knob). Maybe its because I'm a Kiwi, or maybe I'm just a girl ?

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    If you've been a bloke all your life, hardly think you're a girl all of a sudden. Must be the Kiwi bit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Will don dress when required, little makeup and once a year I fool myself into thinking I can wear heels someone gave me. lasts 25 mins at best! I don't apologize for being a country girl, I am what you see. plus I can service your car, what's not to love? oh, my cock might be bigger than yours. .... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But I've always found their approach to me .ie.. Target practise .. Very hurtful. In fact I generally can't cope with aggression ..No matter who it comes from. Sometimes I grow a set of balls and fire back. It would Be nice to be butch I must say. Good luck to you. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • tylannister

    tylannister

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Single_Guy4U'Maybe its because I'm a Kiwi, or maybe I'm just a girl ? Must be an Aussie thing, 'cuz I don't get it either, SG4U.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But when you do don the dress and make up, youre a proper glamour doll! xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' If you've been a bloke all your life, hardly think you're a girl all of a sudden. Must be the Kiwi bit. Is that maybe Astrild, me, or in fact anyone, (as Australia is made up of a combination of different cultures), may not necessarily understand all of Australian nuances or sayings. Maybe you could enlighten me/us regarding the meaning of purple polishing of the knob ?. (always up for more learning of the Australian culture). Kiwi Keith :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    bless you! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But can dress up with the best of them (I think)....though it doesn't happen very often, just special occasions.

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Single_Guy4U' Quoting 'madotara69' If you've been a bloke all your life, hardly think you're a girl all of a sudden. Must be the Kiwi bit. Is that maybe Astrild, me, or in fact anyone, (as Australia is made up of a combination of different cultures), may not necessarily understand all of Australian nuances or sayings. Maybe you could enlighten me/us regarding the meaning of purple polishing of the knob ?. (always up for more learning of the Australian culture). Kiwi Keith :-) are we polishing? Mado's? . are we talking about grape flavoured lube?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But it depends how you define a tomboy, lily.In the beginning, my ex was attractive to me...not just because she was pretty and intelligent...but because we enjoyed the same outdoorsy hobbies before we'd met. Motorbikes, camping, fishing, etc.A farmers daughter, she's a crack shot with a rifle, showed me how to skin a Hare, drives Combine harvesters, etc etc.The first photo she texted me was of her..rifle in hand..lying on a feral camel, blood leaking out of its neat head shot. Cute. I hardly know what to do with a gun.But I did find all those traditionally masculine skills very sexy. Especially in someone who still adored pedicures, massages and laser hair removal.I'm no princess....in MY opinion .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' It depends on as to whether or not you could hold an intellectual conversation with yer mate or mates, whilst he or they polish the knob with the purple polish. If the purple polish has you wondering..... then you are just a girl. Mado Mado Tara xx ... Purple is the name of a polish ... used on chrome ... chrome knobs on bikes

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'lilyorchid'I am not living a lie but wonder if being a tomboy turns some men off.Personally, I like the stereotypical 'tomboy that scrubs up well when needed' - I don't necessarily see the more bullish nature of people when they're at sport as a "male" thing, as much a "competitive" thing. You need it to varying degrees to win. I find it a turn-off when girls are just the floaty stereotypical girly girl in sport. (I'm not a 'social sport' kinda guy). Besides being able to be a bit more versatile in how you have fun together, I think part of the appeal of a 'tomboy' is that she's generally seen as less demanding and able to just go with the flow. (But then I'm not 'typical blokey bloke' - while I do play contact sport, and lift heavy shit at a gym, I'd rather a coke or a cocktail than a beer, couldn't tell you what's happening in the footy, but am right up to date on The Bachelor/Bachelorette and Devious Maids)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I may turn some men off, just as being a girly girly may turn some men off.It may turn some men on, having an assertive woman who is their equal in behaviour and driveWe are all different, you just need to find someone you gel with.Corporate world means we often have to act in ways that we don't believe in personally to suceed.Not right, but it is the way it is

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'xKiwiBredx' Quoting 'madotara69' It depends on as to whether or not you could hold an intellectual conversation with yer mate or mates, whilst he or they polish the knob with the purple polish. If the purple polish has you wondering..... then you are just a girl. Mado Mado Tara xx ... Purple is the name of a polish ... used on chrome ... chrome knobs on bikes you're not just a dag, you're the whole sheeps arse.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    When I was a child and teenager I was. Cars over Dolls, football over girltalk, mates over boys. As I got older I learnt to dress to impress myself and developed a love of lingerie and heels. Whilst still preferring a pair of jeans and trainers. I can ride a motorbike- but havnt for a while. Love to fish. Learnt to strip, clean and reassemble a 22 rifle and get a clean shot off in my teens-ask me to do it now and I'd be stumped! My preference is watching a match over shopping. But do I get my nails done? Occassionally. Do I act like a girl? I might if I knew how girls act but we are all different. I have the soft curves of a woman, don't think I've ever not have them. Would I class myself as a tomboy now? Probably not. I'm just a strong independent woman who can kick ass if I want to, but prefer the gentle art of conversation and good manners. Which I'm sure, male or female, we all prefer.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    In fact, I'm spending a bit of time back "home" as we speak. If you look at a map of Australia, find a place called "Bumfuckhowdidienduphere", and I'm about 400 clicks south of that. Lily, what I find most (or atleast REALLY high in the list) attractive in a gal, is just someone who is who they are, and owns it. Nothing faked or put on, just someone who takes pride in themselves, for who they are, and wears a smile... And Lily, I would tussle with you anyday...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Mado,confusing the poor old blokes what don't polish their nobs is ..well ..just plain mean😝..glad to see you back and in fine form xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I am what I am, said some famous dude some time ago. Some people take on personalty traits for reasons to fit in and be accepted, these things if done for extended time become habitual. Most of our personality comes from this process as we applied it in our early years, the "who you are" part of you. Then as we grow up and find that we modify our selves, it is completely subconscious, like talking to someone with a strong accent, with in minutes you find your self putting on the same, this is the same in our behavior. What is most appealing, to me at least, is someone that is good at being everything to everyone. If tom boy is the thing then be tom boy, if sensitive caring is what is needed then be so. We cant always just be our selves, circumstance and social normality demands we show respect for the situation. Some will say this is being fake, to those I say, so what, I am what I am... OP you are now tom boy, earlier you were the comic. Both occasions you asked if men liked those traits. Seams like you are looking for something. Too much introspection can be dangerous as you can never know what it is like to be another, even worse to assume what they like and don't. Most of our brains power is subconscious thought, introspection is a conscious process and it ignores the subconscious knowledge. Trying to modify behavior based on conclusion drawn from incomplete understanding can result in awkwardness. Just be your self, what ever that self needs to be at the time, your subconscious mind will take care of that, leaving your conscious mind to concentrate on what is happening now, for if you preoccupy it with "how to be" you end up looking like you are trying to hard and that is seldom a good look.

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    10 years ago

    I only owned one dress 18months ago, my special occasion dress I called it, I was a jeans, t-shirt and sandals, kinda girl and still am mostly. I'm more comfortable around the guys, swear better than most men and I'm not your typical girly girl. But always loved everything girly, my bedroom was and still is a girly girl heaven, pretty things, fairies, flowers, fairy lights, my girly underwear, pink and purple are my favourite colours. I lived in the middleofbumfucknowhere, I worked in the mining industry with only men, I worn hi-vis, steel cap boots (purple ones lol), but underneath my hi-vis was the nicest underwear, just so I felt like a girl... Wasn't until I went to my first Sydney for a M & G that I had to buy a dress, because Meeka informed me jeans were not appropriate for a swingers club lol.... Skip forward to now, I work in a more corporate office environment and on longer wear hi-vis, (still wear pretty underwear tho), my walk-in-robe no longer consists of jeans and t-shirts, I buy dresses all the time, I enjoy wearing them these days, my high heel collection is to die for, my underwear collection is even better, but still love my jeans and t-shirts.......💋

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    10 years ago

    I'm all lady ...polished nails, make-up, lingerie on everyday, I'll work all my girly assets to my advantage. My hubby would bone right up if I was a woman like Koolgrey described lol! I don't watch sports and I'll gently cuddle you instead of rough and tumble. I'll skirmish with you in the bedroom only and that is so I can secure the cuffs on you, and then I'll unleash the other side of this lady, the Domme! In saying all of that, when hubby was very sick, this girly girl mowed the lawns, stacked firewood and wouldn't hesitate to cook any animal he had hunted and bought home. I just really like the girly me, I am most comfortable that way and you get the best of me that way. Mary xx

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    10 years ago

    Preparing the kids pool with jello as we speak. Select your weapon of choice and let the tussling commence!!! Nice new pic btw. Hot!!! Xxx

  • teachme383

    teachme383

    10 years ago

    Maybe that's how I should view myself?I am more feminine inside than masculine, but I still do have a masculine side to me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'lilyorchid'My mindset is very masculine when it comes to work and approach to a lot of things. Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' Personally, I like the stereotypical 'tomboy that scrubs up well when needed' Besides being able to be a bit more versatile in how you have fun together, I think part of the appeal of a 'tomboy' is that she's generally seen as less demanding and able to just go with the flow. That sounds like me. I wouldn't turn up in jeans and Converse on a first date, but to a second date I just might. I don't have a job where I look particularly feminine and had never worn heels (not counting boots) until I moved to Australia. Though I like swanky bars and restaurants, I would prefer having a steak and a Guinness in a pub. Gel nails, fake tans, hair extensions, etc. are foreign to me, but I do think I scrub up well when the situation asks for it. I've never been called high maintenance by anyone in real life and hope to keep it that way. Luckily I'm attracted to men who prefer tomboys over girly girls.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Time to wash the DIY hair dye out of my hair and get muddy in the park with my dogs.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Oh, I've got your weapon of choice riiiiiight here... *pats front of jeans and winks* *pulls out a can of silly string* Well, what did you think I meant?? Now, how we doing this, are we nuding up? I don't want to get jello on my brand new t-shirt. I also can't guarantee I won't end up licking and eating something yummy when we get in there all nekkid tussling either... ,,,the jello woman! Where is your mind right now? I mean honestly! Now take off those pants so I can see that fine ass...

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' OP you are now tom boy, earlier you were the comic. Both occasions you asked if men liked those traits. Seams like you are looking for something. Too much introspection can be dangerous as you can never know what it is like to be another, even worse to assume what they like and don't. Most of our brains power is subconscious thought, introspection is a conscious process and it ignores the subconscious knowledge. Trying to modify behavior based on conclusion drawn from incomplete understanding can result in awkwardness. Just be your self, what ever that self needs to be at the time, your subconscious mind will take care of that, leaving your conscious mind to concentrate on what is happening now, for if you preoccupy it with "how to be" you end up looking like you are trying to hard and that is seldom a good look. I believe you misunderstood me and I dont want you to twist this post into anything else with an agenda. I am not looking for anyone's approval as at my age, i come as I am, warts and all (metaphor). Firstly, the being tomboy and humourous (not comical) is not mutuallly exclusive. I am very aware of my capabilities, my strengths and limitations. So please dont patronize me. Just baffles me that statement. Lol. Are we not all looking for something, that is why we are here? the statement that I have my inner tomboy is just a statement born out of comment made a few days ago. My drives, career choice and extra curricular activities of choice are very male oriented, as commented to me the other day by a male acquaintance over a drink. He asked if I had more 'feminine pursuits'. that got me laughing. I just told him, I am what I am and do what makes me most happy when and where nobody gets hurt. I didn't think it mattered in this time and age. but obviously it does to some. Not sure where you are heading with this. I believe seeing your previous posts in other threads, that the Introspective advice you have dished out applies more to you than me? IMHO.

  • MissBishere

    MissBishere

    10 years ago

    im a little bit of everything. Some like me, some loath me, most misunderstand me and I'm ok with that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Tomboys with a comic bent? ..the two are not mutually exclusive IMO xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    i love love love tomboys!!! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I don't really like the hard distinction between 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits, and I think to a certain extent the distinctions are socially constructed anyway...but if we do stick with the definitions then I'm like a lot of women who have already posted. No problems with getting dirty or doing jobs that are traditionally considered men's work. Used to love fishing, would still do it these days if I knew someone with a boat (I would only fish for food purposes these days though, due to some changes in my knowledge and values). I rarely wear heels, and the profession I'm studying for is definitely a flats only one which I'm quite happy about. I actually think I look damn sexy all sweaty and messy-haired after working out at the gym (I know it makes me feel sexy), and I'm looking at starting up some boxing or muay thai classes as well. But, like many women I do also like the occasional chance to glam up...put on the makeup, let the hair down, put on the heels and show off what I got .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ...do any of you consider it Tomboyish of you if you attend martial arts classes, do weights at the gym, work up a sweat, prune the roses....that sort of thing?

  • Forus1234

    Forus1234

    10 years ago

    No, we don't believe you are tomboy if you practice martial arts. I (Mrs) & have been practicing martial arts for a few years now. I enjoy the high impact fitness & someday I may need to get myself out of a situation, at least I'll have some confidence to defend myself.

  • Seachange73

    Seachange73

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Koolgrey' ...do any of you consider it Tomboyish of you if you attend martial arts classes, do weights at the gym, work up a sweat, prune the roses....that sort of thing? those activities you listed are not tomboyish, those aredone by both sexes. Not clear cut in my opinion. my sister in laws prune roses and go to gym (light weights onbly) will not do martial arts. nor will they lift heavy stuff into and out of the car. I build shelves (love Ikea), restore furniture, do basic maintenance of my car, rockclimbing/abseiling, boxing (sparring in ring not just group classes). I like doing physical things with my teenage boys. I used to ride a motorbike around Sydney and melbourne to get around work. I am very practical. growing up in the country, my friend had a cattle farm in Anglesea so we would go after school at times and i would drive the tractor while he cuts open the bail of hay and push it off the tractor trolley to feed the cows. it was fun hooning around his family's farm with the motorbike and tractor. If not at work or at a function, I will be in very simple sports wear or casual wear. Basically, I am low maintenance. devoid of makeup outside work or social functions. but I love to dress up and be sexy when practical. The dichotomous lifestyle as a single parent, i get to do all the home maintenance myself, when and where I can. No man around the house to change the tap .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    And I wonder if "being tomboyish" is going to fade away in time as it becomes the norm.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Koolgrey' ...do any of you consider it Tomboyish of you if you attend martial arts classes, do weights at the gym, work up a sweat, prune the roses....that sort of thing? which goes back to my comment about the issues with a 'masculine' / 'feminine' divide.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I was thinking on this topic this morning...it was keeping me awake.An example. I can think of 5 or 6 women that I know..or knew..that own and ride motorbikes. And big roadbikes too, not scooters/commuters.Coincidentally perhaps, they all were raised in the country...farming. Now...if road bikes are considered a "Tomboyish"hobby( which is not an unreasonable assumption: there are still no women at the very highest levels of motorcycle road racing, and there are no separate womens series...presumably because there is a lack of female interest in the sport ) then by this line of reasoning many rurally raised women are Tomboys.Or....as I really believe....what is Tomboyish for the suburbanite woman is merely the norm for the rural one.Therefore, the rural woman..and man..wouldn't use the term Tomboy as it has no meaning. It's a pointless term. Just my muddled thoughts.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Koolgrey' And I wonder if "being tomboyish" is going to fade away in time as it becomes the norm. at least to an extent it will. It's now considered normal for women to do things like work out at the gym, learn martial arts etc., and other things don't raise nearly as many eyebrows as they would have even 20 years ago. Whether it will extend to things like working in the really male-dominated industries such as engineering or mechanics remains to be seen, although I hope it does.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    on further thinking...it's not always just an issue of the activities themselves but the associated behaviours. As lily pointed out it's still often a surprise to people when women show aggression, competitiveness, etc., and a lot of people don't like it when women show these types of qualities. There have been a number of studies in organisations that have shown how people view men and women differently when they exhibit what are traditionally considered to be 'masculine' traits, and whilst men are generally rewarded for showing them, women are derided for it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    That the term is used much these days..Women are pursuing non traditional trades and going to the gym.playing sport AFL ,Soccer etc is more the norm ..I was curious as to when the term tomboy came into common usage and apparently it dates back to the 1550s meaning a bold immodest woman who acts like a spirited boy.xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ...look at the Aussie women in the soccer world cup. I don't imagine anyone considers them Tomboys,they are just sportswomen at the peak of their game. Clearly, Luck_Dragon, old fashioned attitudes need to change yet, and the workplace as usual is that bastion of old world thinking. It always seems to come back to money....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Most definitely not!! I love the Tomboy. I think self expression is the sexiest thing about a woman. I dated a tomboy for many years and she was handsdown the most adventurous funloving person I ever met. She was also amazing in bed. Don't change one bit!! I'd love to meet you if you didnt live at the opposite end of the country :) - Posted from rhpmobile