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GREEDY COUPLES. SAD SINGLES
July 20 2014
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Tart_Du_Jour
11 years ago
All the single men are locked up in my basement. Making wallets that I will later sell on eBay.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I guess if you enjoy watching the forums slow to a crawl while the few spout their ability to make and break the rules, you couldn't possibly be having more fun right now.
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RHP User
11 years ago
The forums is a crawl MrsP... nobody is here.
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Plain280
11 years ago
Not quiet just nodding off a bit, I think some of the ops subject matter has morphed into something else, hey we are allowed to vent may as well be here, if you dont like the way its going, answer back just keep the abuse to oneselfs thoughts however some times tit gets out of hand for responding to tat.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Enjoy reading your posts and opinions. I respect your.opinion regardless of whether i agree or not as you articulate them well and seem to think them through. At times making me think. and would hate to see you leave. We need you to stay and yes some battles are better left alone. So please stay. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Just like Pavlov's dog hey So are you saying that single men can be taught new tricks?
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'zappeddancer' As a Newbie to the scene I get a little nervous reading this forumAs a single in a rural area I don't have trouble finding men to play with as I am prepared to travel to have fun. It worries me that their appears to be so much tension under the surface of these gatherings that I am feeling put off by attending. I have recently had a few invites to private parties and have been considering trying them as a new experience but after reading what you all have to say ... well Im not so sure now.I do like the suggestions of hosting private parties and even single minglesMaybe its just everyone's preconceived notions at play or maybe people have had negative experiences... Id love to hear some really positive stories/ experiences In my experience meeting forumites, the forum is left at the door and people just mingle and have a good time. It is a bit of a soapbox in here, easy to get on your high horse but face to face, the people I have met have been amazing. It is a bit like chatting with guys and all they have in their repertoire is sex but when you meet they become people not just penises, lol. They don't talk to you in person like they do online.
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RHP User
11 years ago
That's a bit harsh,surely you are mistaken..... at the very least you must mean the Cleo and Cosmo girls:-) xQ
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' The forums is a crawl MrsP... nobody is here. They crawl out of the woodwork! Slippery_Halo, BigO, etc... yay.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Harsh Qefenta? No way, I thought I was being quite polite saying Womens Weekly. I could have said Readers Digest.
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RHP User
11 years ago
In my experience, most 'couples profiles' are run by the male with little input or knowledge from the female. The male of a couple likes to control who sleeps with his girl, and rarely allows someone hotter, fitter or better hung than himself. Even though 'couples' will deny this, it is true. So when it comes to parties, the females generally don't have a problem with the hot ripped and hung single men, but the male of the couple often does. That being said, the male has no problem with single females at the same party....absolute double standards. Most times the females of a couple aren't necessarily aware of the extent of control her man exerts. My experience at parties has been the female loves to touch, kiss and play, but her insecure male is not happy with his female spending time and quickly gets pissed and controlling of her. Bit again, its ok for him to play with any female. Again, that is my experience, and while most couples will come on here (as the 'female') saying its not true, it is! And the no or reduced single guy rule at parties exists because organisers know this small truth. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
It's a complicated topic overall isn't it, and there were plenty of good answers in among this mish-mash. Do come back to the forums again soon won't you.
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hardnslow
11 years ago
Maybe it is because that most of the single males are only single to attend the party the rest of the time they are attached
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RHP User
11 years ago
Curiousplay. I didn't read what you have written because I chose not too. Just to let you know, bully tactics don't work on me.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Tart_Du_Jour' All the single men are locked up in my basement. Making wallets that I will later sell on eBay. I do love your work Ms Tart!!!
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RHP User
11 years ago
OMG... I just read your personally email to me WickedClassy telling me you hoped you hadn't caused me any offence and how you love my comments on the forum.... and then I just read the above? What the? Hahahaha. Are you two serious? That is very strange behaviour I have to say. But it did make me laugh. But just because I am a mean bitch, that nice reply I sent back to you just now. Discount it.. cause I take it back. ner ner ner ne ner ner. I think your timing may have been a little off Meeka. Message on boards was way before that. I sat and thought "mmm, maybe Meeka took my initial comments as being about her, me feel bad now, must apologise" . My comments were never intended for you, however you have come to the defence of others before that should never have been defended (in my humble opinion anyway). As I said before, Peace Love and Happiness.
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Share the love people....would be very interested in a singles only event mention back on page 3/4. DTE couple your events sound fun too. ~ Indy still here and smiling
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RHP User
11 years ago
You want to organise a singles only party then, I will help :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'zappeddancer' As a Newbie to the scene I get a little nervous reading this forumAs a single in a rural area I don't have trouble finding men to play with as I am prepared to travel to have fun. It worries me that their appears to be so much tension under the surface of these gatherings that I am feeling put off by attending. I have recently had a few invites to private parties and have been considering trying them as a new experience but after reading what you all have to say ... well Im not so sure now.I do like the suggestions of hosting private parties and even single minglesMaybe its just everyone's preconceived notions at play or maybe people have had negative experiences... Id love to hear some really positive stories/ experiences In my experience meeting forumites, the forum is left at the door and people just mingle and have a good time. It is a bit of a soapbox in here, easy to get on your high horse but face to face, the people I have met have been amazing. It is a bit like chatting with guys and all they have in their repertoire is sex but when you meet they become people not just penises, lol. They don't talk to you in person like they do online. thanks ralf, I needed to read that xx
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Quoting 'candyman_76' You want to organise a singles only party then, I will help :) How about it Brisbane.....Should we have a SINGLES ONLY meet and greet? Of course I have some awesome couples friends who would be more than welcome to attend, I don't like to discriminate based on relationship status. Indy
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madotara69
11 years ago
Some couples (including some of my close friends) don't want to play with single males. That is there prerogative. Single males need to simply respect it, accept it and get over it! Don't take it personally. Don't try to rationalise it with idiotic thoughts such as "That husband is so insecure" or "They are afraid they might learn something", as those are indicative of exactly the kind of personality that nobody wants at a party. A good rule of thumb for any single males who aren't sure how to act at a swinger party (especially a party filled with people you don't know very well), is this: Don't act like you are at a swinger party. No matter what is going on or how wild others are acting around you, your behaviour should be that of someone attending a dignified vanilla dinner party. Be polite and helpful. Until someone else actively seeks to get you involved in something more, just focus on being the world's best party guest. Even if nobody gets you involved on that particular night, you will have made a lasting good impression and will more than likely be invited to future parties. Respect is everything when it comes to single males in the lifestyle. If we want couples to respect us, we need to show them how respectful we can be of them. The plain truth of it is this – The lifestyle is a couples' world... with room for some good swingles. So live and let live. Be well, treat others well, and swing often. Sadly, nearly all lifestyle couples have either experienced or heard stories about rude solo males. The ones that pose as a couple online, but show up at a party alone with excuses like, "My girlfriend got sick, but she told me I should still come". They post idiotic comments in online forums. They become indignant when couples politely say "No thanks." They might interrupt or monopolise conversations. They leer, over play areas, or even climb onto beds (uninvited) where couples are playing; These uber-jackass males may be in the minority when it comes to solo males in the lifestyle, but the immense drama created from these isolated incidents creates a ripple effect through the entire lifestyle community, which results in a general feeling of "It's not worth the potential hassle" among most couples.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Well if there are couples going it defeats the purpose of singles only lol.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Some couples (including some of my close friends) don't want to play with single males. That is there prerogative. Single males need to simply respect it, accept it and get over it! Don't take it personally. Don't try to rationalise it with idiotic thoughts such as "That husband is so insecure" or "They are afraid they might learn something", as those are indicative of exactly the kind of personality that nobody wants at a party. A good rule of thumb for any single males who aren't sure how to act at a swinger party (especially a party filled with people you don't know very well), is this: Don't act like you are at a swinger party. No matter what is going on or how wild others are acting around you, your behaviour should be that of someone attending a dignified vanilla dinner party. Be polite and helpful. Until someone else actively seeks to get you involved in something more, just focus on being the world's best party guest. Even if nobody gets you involved on that particular night, you will have made a lasting good impression and will more than likely be invited to future parties. Respect is everything when it comes to single males in the lifestyle. If we want couples to respect us, we need to show them how respectful we can be of them. The plain truth of it is this – The lifestyle is a couples' world... with room for some good swingles. So live and let live. Be well, treat others well, and swing often. Sadly, nearly all lifestyle couples have either experienced or heard stories about rude solo males. The ones that pose as a couple online, but show up at a party alone with excuses like, "My girlfriend got sick, but she told me I should still come". They post idiotic comments in online forums. They become indignant when couples politely say "No thanks." They might interrupt or monopolise conversations. They leer, over play areas, or even climb onto beds (uninvited) where couples are playing; These uber-jackass males may be in the minority when it comes to solo males in the lifestyle, but the immense drama created from these isolated incidents creates a ripple effect through the entire lifestyle community, which results in a general feeling of "It's not worth the potential hassle" among most couples. as many females as he can and he doesn't want to 'compete' with younger and hotter men, married, couple or single, at a party, its a male, go figure why coupled males make such a fuss to have no competition but lots of females. As said in another post, married me tend to be very jealously guarding their female while trying to play with as many other females as possible. I have been to several parties now, and that has been my observations.
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RHP User
11 years ago
and from our experience single men are not now nor ever have been a problem. Its married men pretending to be single and married men who think its their right to fuck as many females as possible while monitoring and controlling their own female. Married men in 'the lifestyle' can be quite the jealous and controlling types. We are old and wise enough to have seen it ;) - Posted from rhpmobile
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scubaboy69
11 years ago
"The lifestyle is a couples world"??? Sorry, but you're living in a time-warp. Just met two different couples randomly over tables at different times in an upmarket straight "normal" wine bar tonight ... both couples initiated ... both couples flirted ... both couples dropped the suggestion and asked for a number. Bisexual is in and is the new norm and couples-only parties are Old World lifestyle now. No place for single men in Old World couples parties and no room for subordination of single men in the lifestyle anymore ... single guys are not your towel sharks (otherwise you're useless at vetting singles and couples at the door of your parties) and I've seen more grief between couples with attitude than I've seen with single men. It works both ways if you get the gender balance wrong: You invite 100 single men to a couples party and it'll ruin it. You invite 100 single women to a couples party, no-one'll get laid and it'll sound like a chicken pen!!
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madotara69
11 years ago
As we said, we would choose to stay away from all the dramas of this modern lifestyle, and just bring good lookin, sexy men too our bedroom and enjoy the threesome atmosphere. Can say this as well, we have experienced the guy as suggested in that article, and we have experienced the guy like who wrote it. So fair to say, there is a difference between jealous and insecure, compared to disrespected. Personally I don't like being put in a class of that type of bloke, we are some of the few who are not so much looking for women to play with, we enjoy playing with men. Our most memorable time so far was with a younger fit bloke, well endowed, well his cock was bigger than mine, Tara can hardly remember any differences as it was the guy and his nature that made us all a bit.............lost in it all. Have fun guys, it sounds great.
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madotara69
11 years ago
Little bird, you seem to have contradicted yourself, it seems just for the sakes of an argument.
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madotara69
11 years ago
Heavens to Betsy, spell check has it's own mind.
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RHP User
11 years ago
And reading all your comments. Ducking for cover :). Love hearing people's thoughts and always learning. What's a conversation without a bit of passion.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Said it right. If you are of the opinion that the swinging lifestyle is for couples, you are too old fashioned and not keeping up with the trends and currant lifestyle. Might explain why so many couple complain they cant find a single female if thats their attitude. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
The swinging lifestyle is for all, not just couples. When couples are genuine swingers they will enjoy single men, women and other couples. Why would a genuine swinging couple be so against single men? Unless the male wanted it all about his fun and not his partners! We want to go to parties where all respectful people are welcome, not dependant on their relationship status. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Little bird, you seem to have contradicted yourself, it seems just for the sakes of an argument. Firstly, by your consistent tone towards me on these forums, you are a condescending old man who thinks anyone of my age is nothing. I am not a little bird, and I did not contradict myself for the sake of argument, that is what you do! I initially made a comment about what I knew at the time. Since then, my couple FWB's told me that the party I was at and thought the men were single were in fact a couples and single female event only, information I did not know. So then I realized that the so called aggressive single men were in fact married men. I hope that clears it up for you as you seem very concerned with every one else on here and trying to elevate yourself in my opinion. Please don't bother with your condescending tone with me babe, save it for your female who obviously supports and enables your condescension to strong females.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Heavens to Betsy, spell check has it's own mind.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' The plain truth of it is this – The lifestyle is a couples' world... with room for some good swingles. of the smug couple attitude...'it's our world and you should be so grateful if we deign to allow you entry to our privileged sanctum of coupled bliss'. Ugh. The only reason I was looking for couples was because logistically it represented the easiest way to have a MFM / MMF. With the exception of a few awesome 'proper' couples, I would much, much prefer to get together with two singles / FWBs but obviously that's much more difficult to find and organise. As some have already stated, many couples in this lifestyle (which is open to everyone these days and doesn't 'belong' to any group in particular) are difficult to deal with and give the impression that you should grovel at their feet just because they want to use you as their plaything. Yet another forum was recently posted by a couple with this attitude (but of course they blame the 'narcissistic' single women).
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'MWK2014' The swinging lifestyle is for all, not just couples. When couples are genuine swingers they will enjoy single men, women and other couples. Why would a genuine swinging couple be so against single men? Unless the male wanted it all about his fun and not his partners! We want to go to parties where all respectful people are welcome, not dependant on their relationship status. - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
11 years ago
Quoting 'GooeyBliss' And reading all your comments. Ducking for cover :). Love hearing people's thoughts and always learning. What's a conversation without a bit of passion. It brings the life to the forums, hopes and dreams, bullshit and madness Welcome to the house of fun. Disclaimer, at no point have we said swinging is for couples ONLY. What we are saying is that it takes a certain type of man that as a single male is enjoyable for a couple, unfortunately some men do not understand what it is to be part of that bond and seem to think they are special in some kind of way and have little respect, just some stupid idea it's all about them. As for the OP, if it is still so difficult to find parties where singles males are openly invited, then maybe that speaks for it's self. We have had drama with a single man, it was not because of insecurity or jealousy, the opposite actually, he was just a fuckwit show pony that became well..... boring and really had no idea what he was doing and that article above, explained his attitude perfectly. And the article was written in 2008
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RHP User
11 years ago
Mado, can I ask how many swingers parties and clubs you have been too? By the way, a couple looking for single men to join them for threesomes. Are they technically even swingers?
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madotara69
11 years ago
That was written by a single male from the swinging scene, not from us as a smug couple. As advice for something like, typed in searching for, Why are single men not invited to swinging clubs and parties. We do not know the answer.
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RHP User
11 years ago
The urban dictionary says that a swinger is someone who dates or sleeps with more than one person at a time. Which I suppose means all of us?
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madotara69
11 years ago
No, none and to be honest, we have always since being on this site, taken your views of the clubs and parties as good valuable input, we know you have plenty of experience and you have often mentioned that bond couples have. Trying to add a males perspective of the meanings to play with single men, that is all. Is it true, in your opinion, that the clubs and parties are a bunch of jealous husbands ruling the coup. As far for what we believe from reading many posts over time, is that women seem to run the show and if that changes, then maybe that is why there seems to be these dramas that all these people in here are referring too? If we went to a swingers party, who we played with would heavily and ultimately be Tara's decision. As a husband I think that matters.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' That was written by a single male from the swinging scene, not from us as a smug couple. But you did say that it reflected what you yourself were trying to say, and that couples are the 'gatekeepers' of swinging is the general gist I get from the rest of your post and other posts that you have written in the past.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Interesting thread, however there are quite a few events/parties where single guys are allowed, so really a question of where you are and finding the right party. Obviously if a party has lots of single women, it needs to have single guys - plenty of these parties around. Good topic, wrong question. Should be how do I find parties with single guys? The next question is how do I find the right party?
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madotara69
11 years ago
None of that post was what I wrote, it was two snippets from the same page, I copy pasted. The intentions were aimed at behaviour. For what it is worth we have no prejudice against anyone involved in the swinging scene, just behaviour.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Seems there is a good debate here, perhaps due to the lack of singles parties, who is with me in creating more singles parties?
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' None of that post was what I wrote, it was two snippets from the same page, I copy pasted. The intentions were aimed at behaviour. For what it is worth we have no prejudice against anyone involved in the swinging scene, just behaviour. I was referring to your post heading "Got this off the net, not our words, but what we were trying to say". Anyway, flogging a dead horse now, all good.
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scubaboy69
11 years ago
Quoting 'MWK2014' The swinging lifestyle is for all, not just couples. When couples are genuine swingers they will enjoy single men, women and other couples. Why would a genuine swinging couple be so against single men? Unless the male wanted it all about his fun and not his partners! We want to go to parties where all respectful people are welcome, not dependant on their relationship status. - Posted from rhpmobile Nailed it. ... and I agree with Luckdragon, you guys are awesome!
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guykinkster
11 years ago
would like to see more events where single guys are welcome....
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RHP User
11 years ago
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RHP User
11 years ago
The more emphasis you put on someone else touching your cock or pussy.... The bigger disappointment you're gonna feel if you're not included.... Seems to me there's a lot that do put a massive focus on it... - Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Not taking sides here but mado n tara aren't generally the type to pick on anyone. If you ever meet them you'll know this. Debate rages hot here, try not to take things personally or too seriously. Sometimes less said is soonest mended (shrugs)
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madotara69
11 years ago
Youngand married, If you look back over this thread, you will see that it was behaviour that was what was being referred too, so when you pick a line out of that article posted and turn it into your reason for the argument to try and change the course of the discussion, then you are just trolling. There was no contradiction because at no point were we trying to say singles are not welcome to the lifestyle. Just Tara is no whore, I am not a jealous and insecure husband, and women should be treated with respect, is the whole point that is the intentions of our part in this discussion. Some in here are trying to throw it all on the husbands, and that is not true. We have experience to vouch for it.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'I_N_D_A_G_I_N_E' Not taking sides here but mado n tara aren't generally the type to pick on anyone. If you ever meet them you'll know this. Debate rages hot here, try not to take things personally or too seriously. Sometimes less said is soonest mended (shrugs) thanks babe!
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RHP User
11 years ago
Can you show us where Y&M quoted anything you said? From where we sit, It appears that it was you that is picking on her. She is a feisty young lady and it appears you are trying to put her in her box, so to speak. We know her personally and meet up with her regularly, what is your problem with her? Why is a couple in their 40's (well a male) ganging up on a 23 year old? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Looking back, it was actually luckdragon who quoted your ridiculous post that YOU said YOU were trying to say. Get you facts right. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Why does every other post on here turn into a bangup argument? Agree to disagree already! I would have thought the answer here is obvious! Couple parties are organised by couples for couples so they call the shots on what single males are attending, if a singles party is wanted then organise a singles party! Simple!
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Renken' Simple really?With all these great EVENTS organisations on here for SWINGERS!!!Far too many to mention.......Why not organise a SINGLE MALE / SINGLE FEMALE Bash, one night only!!! that if done correctly with the right guest lists etc could possible be the BIGGEST EVENT of the year!!!!! Imagine how many hook ups and marriages that could come of it then these poor SINGLE GUYS and GIRLS that feel left out of ut will end up SWINGING as a NEW couple anyway LOL!! yes you are right. we all need to capitalize on the opportunities given, whether the singles parties or swinging or a meet and greet. No self pity here. Lol. At the recent Melbourne Meet and Greet, it seems that the single men who were supposed to turn up did NOT. There was a misconception, regardless of what the OP has said, that it was NOT an orgy in a public place. Lol. Scared some of the men shitless which was funny. Anyway, we make hay while we can and really no point blaming other people for our misery or handing out accolades to others for our joy. It has to start from us. Happy to attend any party.
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RHP User
11 years ago
News flash - ppl are entitled to voice an opinion. You have voiced yours. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Why dont you all just get a room lol
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RHP User
11 years ago
Simple economics, Single men out number women 6 to 1
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'MWK2014' News flash - ppl are entitled to voice an opinion. You have voiced yours. - Posted from rhpmobile If feisty young women wants to be on the forum and make brash outlandish statements at times. Well there are other people who are going to have a go. I agree that we should give youngsters a bit of leeway but that doesn't mean that nobody can make any comments against them either. Btw, what's with people saying I am friends with X, Y and Z and meet up with them regularly. Where is the descretion?
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RHP User
11 years ago
That ain't having a go at young married by the way. Just saying when you come onto a forum and have strong opinions.... Well it just makes sense that there will be some people who won't agree with them. I would be the last person to tell someone to not have a go and say what they think. ;-)
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'MWK2014' News flash - ppl are entitled to voice an opinion. You have voiced yours. - Posted from rhpmobile If feisty young women wants to be on the forum and make brash outlandish statements at times. Well there are other people who are going to have a go. I agree that we should give youngsters a bit of leeway but that doesn't mean that nobody can make any comments against them either. I agree with you here Meeka and if Youngand married sticks her head in and makes as controversial statement, she should be prepared for both positive and negative response. In this instance though, Young did not quote anything out of Mado's post and she got picked for that and that is where I agree with MWK. However, I think Young is big enough to stand up for herself. she may be young but she has a lot of chutzpah in her, albeit sometimes misdirected. Lol. But go girl. Btw, what's with people saying I am friends with X, Y and Z and meet up with them regularly. Where is the descretion?Yeah not sure about trumpeting to the whole forum and RHP community that you are sleeping with x, y and z on a regular basis. Hmmmm. I see a new pack forming and nothing wrong with looking after each other. good on you and keep enjoying yourselves. But I prefer to be more discrete. IMHO....
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madotara69
11 years ago
Madotara69 bullies me and then says I contradict myself, but look who is the real contradictor now! Then where is the contradiction? I never said "quoted", just picking out parts that were not being emphasised in prior posts. There was no bullying, first there was a contradiction between two separate posts from young and married, then she explained the contradiction, then she had a dig " yes hot single men can" something like that, then she called me babe, So I in turn called her little bird. As for the ridiculous post, it also referred to a small few single men and the "It has a rippled effect, makes it not worth the hassle", relates to the OP. Would point out we had a regular poster put up a topic recently where her hubby had to throw out a single guy from a party recently, so it happens. (was he jealous and insecure? couldn't blame him for wanting to throttle the bloke) Just a little group bash up is all it is. Go for it, been a while since a bit of sand has been tossed.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Owww Mado. There must have been a few posts deleted as I did nto see your references to them with re. to Young and married. Just followed this and did not see her quoting from your post... So.. Not bashing you, just saying. We know you are a little devil beneath those angel wings. A bash up will not be given to you as you are the type the would take pleasure in it so will withdraw all those privileges... Lol.
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madotara69
11 years ago
I was referring to the little love triangle, not the rest, use to that. And bow out off this topic, as it's gonna get all twisted again. Bye bye folks.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sick and tired of madotara bullying me and constantly lies and makes stories up. He parades as a couple, but is just a sad old man who picks on those he perceives as a threat for whatever reason. Bye all - I'm not going to be bullied by you possessive regulars who enable each other!!!
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RHP User
11 years ago
No posts were deleted, madotara is a lyer.
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RHP User
11 years ago
There is a difference between having a go and outright bullying and lies.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Btw, what's with people saying I am friends with X, Y and Z and meet up with them regularly. Where is the descretion? We are the sort of people who take care of our friends, and when we see a good friend being picked on for no reason, particularly by a middle aged man, we will stand up for them. On this occasion we see the result of the alleged "bullying behavior" from Madotarra, and we are pretty much disgusted. Rather than Madotarra direct his aggression at luckdragon who actually called him on his ridiculous post, he rather directs his aggression to a friend of ours and people on this forum tend to side with the regulars no matter how wrong they might be. That is bullying, as Y&M is asserting. As far as discretion goes and your questions regarding why do people say I am friends with x, y and z - we are pretty sure that the site allows for all to see who are friends on their profiles and it also allows for validations, so we are not sure what your point is? Any way, anyone reading the thread will see that Y&M didn't say what Maddotarra is suggesting, and we have noticed a theme with him picking on Y&M - not sure about others on this site, but we do not tolerate bullies.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Go luckdragon!! We love your direct honest approach.
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RHP User
11 years ago
totally agree with you gooeybliss...............there is a definite imbalance in the scene at times (not always but very often) and an obvious stigma towards single men. Unfortunately that is because single men on these sites are the majority, we are seen by many as cheap plentiful and disposable, and its a small minority of dickheads that ruin it for the rest of us. Then again the behaviour of many single women ive come across is just as appalling at times. The number of single women ive come across from this site that have no qualms about fooling around with married men behind their wives backs is disgraceful, and its behaviour I myself would never engage in. You see married men wouldn't cheat if there wasn't a plentiful amount of single women willing to do the deed. Also many of these single fems in the scene seem to have seriously inflated egos and think their shit doesn't stink. This has a lot to do with why I personally prefer the company of couples for the majority of the time, single women are often more trouble than they are worth......again not all.......but a large percentage. Ive found over the years in the scene there is a large number of couples who may not advertise their desire on their profiles to meet single men, who actually do enjoy the company of single guys quite regularly. They do this to discourage the vocal minority of dickheads...so they arent bombarded with msgs, and so they can approach the guys themselves in their own time. Ive also found that many of the couples who say a big "NO" to single guys, is basically because the male partner has insecurity issues and is generally selfish. Often the wife wants the company of singles, but because hubby says no it doesn't happen. Yet they will play with single women??? like seriously whats the difference??? a single is a single despite gender. In my eyes that stinks of selfishness on the part of the male......they want their fun with single gals and couples, but deny their wives the same in return.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' There is a difference between having a go and outright bullying and lies. Hi YoungAndMarried... Sorry, I probably shouldn't have commented as I haven't been paying attention to what has been happening on this or other threads, so I wasn't saying anything specific about your situation as such. Just that if you have strong opinions, such as yourself, well there are bound to be disagreements and a few fights. I know because I am out spoken too. You keep posting whatever you like as is your right. That was all I was trying to say.
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RHP User
11 years ago
MWK2014 for all I know you could be her parents or something. I just find it a bit weird that you keep mentioning how often you see her, etc. At the end of the day you don't know who is seeing who, or who is speaking to who and sometimes people prefer their friends to be a little more discreet. You don't know who you may upset. But if you see nothing wrong with it, well go for your life as it's none of my business....... well, I suppose it is since you have written about it on the open forum.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Thanks for the further dig, but if I was Y&M's mother, I would have been 15 at conception. Thanks though :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' Sick and tired of madotara bullying me and constantly lies and makes stories up. He parades as a couple, but is just a sad old man who picks on those he perceives as a threat for whatever reason. Bye all - I'm not going to be bullied by you possessive regulars who enable each other!!! Please do not go. I enjoy your posts despite the fact that we do not agree on some occasions and at a couple of times were at oggerheads in our opinions. But I enjoy a good debate without malice and I hope you change your mind and stay. Your views are interesting if not sometimes controversial. Lol. I times you make me giggle. But hey, it is your opinion and it should have a place in the forum, regardless of what we personally think. Please reconsider. big hugs.
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Genius_Ironman
11 years ago
Maybe someone needs to log a formal complaint with their state's equal opportunity commission. I am pretty sure that such a complaint against one of the commercial, rather than a "backyard" club would succeed. It is simply illegal to discriminate via gender or marital status. Mainstream nightclubs were pulled into line here in WA years ago, when they tried charging by gender, 'a swingers cub isn't really all that different.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sorry that was a bit naughty of me. Sorry. :p
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madotara69
11 years ago
MWK, not only have you hijacked this thread, you and your lover have vilified and attempted to defame me/us Put your money where your mouth is and show where any bullying has been done too your beloved Y&M Three posts maybe, where her derogatory claims have been challenged, is not bullying, in fact you are the ones bullying Perhaps you should read the rules of posting in these forums. In respect too Luckdragon, we had a discussion and your selves and Y&M are trolling of the conversation we had, her last words were ALL GOOD. WE are not frustrated at all with that conversation, so why bring her into it. Perhaps you are letting your emotions get the better of you.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Genius_Ironman' Maybe someone needs to log a formal complaint with their state's equal opportunity commission. I am pretty sure that such a complaint against one of the commercial, rather than a "backyard" club would succeed. It is simply illegal to discriminate via gender or marital status. Mainstream nightclubs were pulled into line here in WA years ago, when they tried charging by gender, 'a swingers cub isn't really all that different. Do some more reearch
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' There is a difference between having a go and outright bullying and lies. Hi YoungAndMarried... Sorry, I probably shouldn't have commented as I haven't been paying attention to what has been happening on this or other threads, so I wasn't saying anything specific about your situation as such. Just that if you have strong opinions, such as yourself, well there are bound to be disagreements and a few fights. I know because I am out spoken too. You keep posting whatever you like as is your right. That was all I was trying to say. Young&Married, you don't need to go. Debates come and go, we all say dick stuff at times. I enjoy reading your different outlook on here and you are entitled to your opinion regardless of who agrees with it. Besides...this would be good practice for your debating as a lawyer .
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RHP User
11 years ago
Wot are these SWINGERSpartys you speak of??
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'sxy30sGCguy' totally agree with you gooeybliss...............there is a definite imbalance in the scene at times (not always but very often) and an obvious stigma towards single men. Unfortunately that is because single men on these sites are the majority, we are seen by many as cheap plentiful and disposable, and its a small minority of dickheads that ruin it for the rest of us. Then again the behaviour of many single women ive come across is just as appalling at times. The number of single women ive come across from this site that have no qualms about fooling around with married men behind their wives backs is disgraceful, and its behaviour I myself would never engage in. You see married men wouldn't cheat if there wasn't a plentiful amount of single women willing to do the deed. Also many of these single fems in the scene seem to have seriously inflated egos and think their shit doesn't stink. This has a lot to do with why I personally prefer the company of couples for the majority of the time, single women are often more trouble than they are worth......again not all.......but a large percentage. Ive found over the years in the scene there is a large number of couples who may not advertise their desire on their profiles to meet single men, who actually do enjoy the company of single guys quite regularly. They do this to discourage the vocal minority of dickheads...so they arent bombarded with msgs, and so they can approach the guys themselves in their own time. Ive also found that many of the couples who say a big "NO" to single guys, is basically because the male partner has insecurity issues and is generally selfish. Often the wife wants the company of singles, but because hubby says no it doesn't happen. Yet they will play with single women??? like seriously whats the difference??? a single is a single despite gender. In my eyes that stinks of selfishness on the part of the male......they want their fun with single gals and couples, but deny their wives the same in return. Well said. Spot on.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' No posts were deleted, madotara is a lyer. Start the respect ball rolling by getting my name right. LILYORCHID. For the second time. Lol. Show me that respect and I will reciprocate.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I have been to Several Parties now as a single male I was invited and enjoyed my time there. I must admit its a better environment than the local bar. In saying that there are a lot more genuine Straight guys out there that are understanding to the etiquette of a Swingers Party It's all about meeting and enjoying people's company if something happens it happens, the fear of having single men overload is never going to happen and the men that are single that go in my experience are just like the straight male of a swinging couple..... They just haven't found their perfect partner that is comfortable with this way of life.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Why not find a like minded Female Hook up become a pair.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' Sick and tired of madotara bullying me and constantly lies and makes stories up. He parades as a couple, but is just a sad old man who picks on those he perceives as a threat for whatever reason. Bye all - I'm not going to be bullied by you possessive regulars who enable each other!!! Well, well, well....the young lass who gave everyone shit on the forums, who then told those who took offense to 'lighten up' or 'harden up princess' or 'learn to take criticism HUN' has been defeated by her own weaponry. The lesson here: Treat people the way you want to be treated. Oh the Irony of it all...goodbye Young'n'married :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'playalone' Why not find a like minded Female Hook up become a pair. a lot of guys try that, it is just hard to find a like minded female.
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RHP User
11 years ago
There is plenty of events, parties where single men are allowed just have to have a look around. we know of 3 in our area and within a few k's a few more if that's your taste. Enjoy we say and each to their own
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RHP User
11 years ago
Seems one persons bullying is another's perceived debating skills.. As a regular poster myself ' I find it better to just ignore those who display their holier than thee attitude. Young and married.. Don't you go anywhere... I've learnt for every nark there's 10 good ppl. They will eventually leave you alone and then you can get on and make some great friends... If you go , you lose, so better you stay ...
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Tigeroo' Quoting 'YoungAndMarried' Sick and tired of madotara bullying me and constantly lies and makes stories up. He parades as a couple, but is just a sad old man who picks on those he perceives as a threat for whatever reason. Bye all - I'm not going to be bullied by you possessive regulars who enable each other!!! Well, well, well....the young lass who gave everyone shit on the forums, who then told those who took offense to 'lighten up' or 'harden up princess' or 'learn to take criticism HUN' has been defeated by her own weaponry. The lesson here: Treat people the way you want to be treated. Oh the Irony of it all...goodbye Young'n'married :) Don't be like that. Sure Y&M has had a go at things and we have commented on that 'behaviour' that we disagree on and we try to set our limits on what we think is acceptable to us. We have done and said things we dont mean and may be out of character and may and may not gotten away with it. A learning curve for her. A bit of compassion goes a long way. I don't like it when people get stuck to her because she is outspoken so play nice and give her a break. She is most welcome here in my opinion and provides that diversity and challenge status quo. As per my previous msg Y&M, stay and don't be scared. I am a somewhat of a newbie too (7months now) so still learning the ropes. this is all new to us and sometimes, rocks are thrown at us because we have crossed the 'invisible line'. so what right? We watch, just learn to duck and deflect then move forward. Lol. You have a bigger support group than you think. But stay only if you are comfortable. big hugs.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Jay_Me' Seems one persons bullying is another's perceived debating skills.. As a regular poster myself ' I find it better to just ignore those who display their holier than thee attitude. Young and married.. Don't you go anywhere... I've learnt for every nark there's 10 good ppl. They will eventually leave you alone and then you can get on and make some great friends... If you go , you lose, so better you stay ... Agree. I don't like it at all when someone gets pushed out of the playground just because they think differently or disagree with the guards. You can't win them all. I tend to stay in the playground and fight back and consider it a challenge. Brush yourself off the ground Y&M and stand your ground. Young and Married, your tenacity and feistiness reminds me of me when I was younger except that I could remember names very well, bit more reserved and thoughtful in my words and actions , and been mentored by great people, who walk the talk,to observe certain behaviours that could be used to your advantage in negotiations/interactions. but hey, you are young and the world is your oyster. Am still tenacious and feisty, never lose that, but now I have more life experience to back up my arguments. One mentor told me that if you are to err, make them while you are young as society is more forgiving and youth has given you a license to make mistakes. To do the same thing at middle age, you maybe labelled are a fool. Lol.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Ive always been interested but I don't really like to be the single guy at a sex party, I sort of get put into that generalised category of being that "single guy just looking for a quick fuck because I'm desperate". I sort of thought of the parties as a great way to meet and have fun with people, have conversations a few drinks find out about people, if sex doesn't happen Im fine with that, I had a great night and made some friends. Its certain men out there who ruin it for the rest of us who expect to get some, and I don't blame some parties for saying no men, some are just pigs. Maybe there needs to be more singles parties, Obviously the ratio would need to be accessed and screening of men as well which I'm fine with. Its really about being comfortable in a very unfamiliar environment, one thing id like is everyone has to introduce themselves and talk about themselves for 1 minute, it will really nut out the flogs I think.
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RHP User
11 years ago
The MOST sensible thing said in all 10 pages is - "... if you dont like it run your own parties." . Pretty simple really . Brae
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'playalone' Why not find a like minded Female Hook up become a pair. a lot of guys try that, it is just hard to find a like minded female. Not to mention that its wrong.
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RHP User
11 years ago
That is just how Mr Tryst and I got "together". We were both happily single (still are) and decided our chances of having threesomes and moresomes would greatly improve if we teamed up. Almost two years on we haven't had a single complaint yet. X Ms Shout - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsJonesy
11 years ago
Quoting 'BellaRH' Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'playalone' Why not find a like minded Female Hook up become a pair. a lot of guys try that, it is just hard to find a like minded female. Not to mention that its wrong. Why is it wrong? Are you saying that two people cannot play as a couple, if they are not a couple? Why is it wrong to go to a club as a couple when they are going together with the intention of playing together, with others? I don't understand.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I've had more than one lover with whom I've met couples and singles, or been to a swingers club. Some people have an image that "non-couples" don't look after each other and are only in it for themselves. I would never be the MF in a moresome with a man I didn't trust and whom I felt would not have my back and know my boundaries, and vice versa. Who cares if we are lovers and not in a relationship? It's all about respect for each other and the people we play with.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I guess it all depends on what you feel makes a couple. If you have an understanding and caring between two people is that adequate for the purpose of going to a swingers club. I think so. Some couples believe you need to live together, or be in a committed relationship, or be in love to be considered a couple. I don't agree with that either.
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RHP User
11 years ago
" wrongQuoting 'ralf74'Quoting 'playalone'Why not find a like minded Female Hook up become a pair. a lot of guys try that, it is just hard to find a like minded female.Not to mention that its wrong.......and couples wonder why they get labelled Greedy Couples and-or smug couples.... Thanks for the late Saturday night laugh.
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RHP User
11 years ago
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