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It's almost entirely a complete waste of time...

February 21 2015

... Bothering to take time to write 'decent' messages. It's one of the more significant fallacies drifting around the forums, one of the more common pieces of advice given here to guys, looking to get in contact with women here, and I think it's about time we put that little furphy to rest. The simple fact of the matter is, the site is pretty much entirely visual. Speaking from a hetero single male perspective here - women, despite comments made here, and flowery comments often made in profiles - are not particularly interested in how sexy the mind is or whatever crap they try to sell themselves. People look at your profile and make a decision based upon the images they see. Well, not most men, I'd assume - most men will take the basic stance of: "Does it have a vagina? If so, then I'm in". No-one cares about the 'all-important' GSOH. No one is interested in anything, beyond how you look. Again, this is totally fine, I'm just looking to address comments to the contrary. The real advice, single guys, is not to bother with taking time on messages. Don't really bother to read the profile. None of that really matters. Women are interested - completely understandably so - in the *images* they can see in your profile. You can be as polite, respectful, engaging and/or interesting as you like, but if you are not pushing that visual button from the get-go, I'm afraid you are not getting anywhere. Do I sound bitter? Well, I am a little, I admit. In over 2 months, I've received a single reply. I mean, it's not like I spam out a million messages, but I have sent a bunch - so, even still, that's a little telling. That'll get anyone down. I get that I'm not the prettiest dude in the world, and women not being interested in my particular flavour is totally fine - but its the notion that if you're able to string together a sentence and engage with the actual person and say at least something interesting that is a significant factor in women taking an interest in you is what I'd like to address. Because it's not true. It's not relevant. It's absolutely meaningless. Nothing any guy here can say is remotely as important, or effective as having a hot picture. So guys, the advice to you here, is save the words, spare yourself the reading. Just put up a sexy photo, and don't be completely awful/stupid/offensive - that's it. The medium is entirely visual. It's ALL that matters.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    People can dress it up however they want but its true this is a visual site and pics get people noticed. No matter how good the message is, its more of an ego boost to the person concerned to recieve a well written message than it is to increase the writers strike rate. This goes for both sexes.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    11 years ago

    Yes it is a visual site.........and some pics get my attention more than others.....mmmmm

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Nathan6fs' Sheesh buddy you've got a few hot friends there ? What happened with them ? Maybe I should try the woe is me starving actor or musician look and see how I go ? I've met a few people on here but unfortunately they have either looked completely different in real life, or I haven't put in enough effort and it's just kind of fizzled out. (I know ladies - my bad) You really do have to put in the yards to get the rewards. I'd really love a sexy lady to chase me for once. Now that would be liberating but when you're confronted with an army of emails every time you sign in of course it will never happen. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Maybe just go back to the pub and have a crack like I've been doing for the past 20 years. Worked pretty good so far. :)) Nothing beats meeting someone face to face and at least that way you can actually get a response - even if it is "fuck off mate ". Lol N you look like the kind of guy that has more sex than hot diners.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I am sure there are a at least a few women here that are partial to the Mexican Hat Dance..Viva Zapata,ole xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    of briefly communicating with Nathan, not only is he a spunk but he is a nice guy who is well articulated. Very charming and friendly. He is a catch girls!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm surprised that men are shocked that when offering purely superficial dalliances, they will often be met with similarly superficial prerogatives. *shrugs* Umm re Nate - I can't look at that profile pic without thinking about watersports - eh emm.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm average looking.....got nothing really in the bank account to warrant much....I am over protective of my 8 pack as I've wrapped it in a nicely aerodynamic ball of jelly.... YET..... I can still get replies....I can still get meets.... So is it looks?? Or is it simply my genuine nature and light hearted look on most things that shines brighter than my physical appearance that has a naturally alluring effect?? I'll bet the latter....but I'd be more than open to hearing what others thought..... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    years ago, when i last active in RHP, I was one of the awesome chatters in the chat room around. Gotten alot of friends.. even got to intimately know a few girls too. But via profile searching and messaging? nope.. doesnt work for me. I suppose its depends on which angle you try. Some guys can get lucky via meet and greet... Some guys get lucky via group hatting.. some.. well you know what I mean :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    what forums need.. is an EDIT option to allow us to correct our typo mistakes .. O.o hatting --> chatting :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The best way to have sex with women is to treat them like they're full of "crap" and don't actually take in what they have to say. That sounds like a positive, foolproof plan. MsK x - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sparty you were subconsciously inspired by the OP's chapeau ...I quite like the notion of group hatting,mad hatters,tea parties,the list is endless...the lovers love,and the hatters,hat...some do both 😘xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ok so OP... I looked at you pictures before reading your profile and although your pics are great and would warrant a response, after reading your profile you've lost me completely. So if your statement is correct and this site is solely visual then what you have written in your profile and previous forum posts wouldn't bother me however I find that it does. Not everyone judges a book by its cover and those that don't require some form of stimulating substance to keep their interest rather than the "oh poor me" vibe.

  • ElleWould

    ElleWould

    11 years ago

    For me it is definitely not just a visual thing. It's rare that I will respond in any depth to a quick one line message. I definitely appreciate those people who take a bit of care with their messages and I'm much more likely to respond in kind. However, I'm not going to hook up with everyone who writes me a great message. I don't have the time and there are other things I take into consideration. I guess OP that there is no way to guarantee that you will get to meet someone you're interested in...there just isn't. And we're all going to get turned down more often than we're accepted. But if you don't put in some effort you might miss out even more often than you 'should'. Good luck with it. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'sir_stir' I can still get replies....I can still get meets.... So is it looks?? Or is it simply my genuine nature and light hearted look on most things that shines brighter than my physical appearance that has a naturally alluring effect?? I'll bet the latter....but I'd be more than open to hearing what others thought..... - Posted from rhpmobile I think it's the things that you mentioned and the fact that you seem to genuinely like women. Your affection for your girls that shines through in some of your posts also highlights the fact that you're a good guy. Not all of us are attracted to arseholes with six packs.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    and a nice bum so yes it is 50% visual...have a nice bum photo in your profile and I will send you an email! :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I've had profile photos showing abs and profile photos not showing abs. I've sent clever messages, and I've sent messages pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable. Can confirm: more replies with abs on view and being clever/polite/etc. Minimal replies behaving like a douche, no matter what photos are up. Some replies without abs on view but being clever/polite/etc... none of which is really rocket science! Good luck... we're all going to make it.

  • rupamohan

    rupamohan

    11 years ago

    Try it...I think they like "decent messages"....don't be so choosy...don't ignore this corner..look closer..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    My mate at work set up a completely template profile on here. But instead of describing himself as the short, chubby ginger that he is. He said he was tall dark and handsome, with a 10 inch cock (which could be true because I actually don't know his dick size). That profile still gets more views, messages and flirts than my profile does.. Premium couples who's profiles say no single males respond to flirts, ladies profiles that say no pick no reply will reply to his flirts or simple one line messages if they are platinum members. So the moral to this story it's not the picture but the picture in their mind that counts. And unfortunately crying that nobody likes you doesn't paint a good picture..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ... As it's been mentioned by/focused on by a number of people now: the perceived 'poor-me'-ness of this post and/or my profile: Not actually a thing. While there is venting in the post, for sure, I not only don't deny that - I directly say so in the post itself, in order to simply put it out there - but venting aside, the point of the post is really to talk about the explicitly visual nature of the site, particularly for initial responses. As Shevermin's post perfectly highlights, his mate didn't even use a fake picture, but merely desribed himself (falsely) as being highly attractive and as a result recives replies from one-liners and even flirts (honestly, how many guys get a response from flirts?)... Now, given he just supplied a description of a sexy dude; how much larger would his replies be if he also grabbed a sexy ab-shot from google images? The site for the vast majority of people is about images - this was my point. It's also my point that *THIS IS TOTALLY FINE* - but I raised the issue, as I have read a frequent refrain about how being charming and eloquent and writing fancy-pants messages is important: it is NOT important - and please read this next bit carefully - *UNTIL* one has received a reply. However, generally speaking for the purposes of getting that initial response, for the most part, anything other than a sexy photo (or a brief sexy description) is basically a waste of time. I *assure* everyone who has mentioned it, I don't have a poor-me complex, the site has been very good to me, on balance, over the time I've been on it, meeting and even sometimes having great sex with, some truly fantastic, interesting, sexy and incredibly fun women; and I have, as I've said, a pretty full little social calendar - I vented, yes, in hindsight too heavily I will admit, but it wasn't the point of the post. As for comments about my profile, well - to those I say that's honestly just reading comprehension: I have a small little bit upfront that says "Hey, even if I'm not your cup of tea, I'd love to get a reply, as even a 'no thanks' is appreciated". If you think that is somehow some sort of accusatory moaning, I'm afraid you need to read it again. Thanks for all the responses, particular those that engaged with what I was trying to say. Also, thanks to those people who got in touch with me as a result - as I said in response - your messages are always greatly appreciated!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Mate I have been on here two years looking for what I want and have yet to find it Maybe my profile isn't that good but really everyone has there prefrence and you can't be Upset because your not someone's

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'sir_stir' I'm average looking.....got nothing really in the bank account to warrant much....I am over protective of my 8 pack as I've wrapped it in a nicely aerodynamic ball of jelly.... YET..... I can still get replies....I can still get meets.... Yeah..... I get emails first!Vision impairment in RHP I guess

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The ratio is in the woman's favour (I think). So us blokes have to be creative with our profiles. I do get replies that simple state, 'open your pics first'. I then reply, have you fully read my profile? If I get a reply back it's usual, I won't read the profile unless I see pics. It can get just a tad frustrating if the person you are trying to converse with doesn't have any pics of them. And the I do get a few that state my profile is too long. I say you win some, you lose some. Life's too short to stress about the little things.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It is too long, now show me your cock !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    You wrote this topic on Feb 21. Its now March 5... and you're still here. Has anything changed?! DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I won't hold your ageing eyes against ya 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    when are you coming to Perth?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    when are you coming to Perth?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    when are you coming to Perth?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    sorry, the repeat message monster has come again

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If it was all about having pics like a male model, I would've had disappointing results as well. As it happens, I've met some amazing people, and have had great conversations. I've experienced that over 4 years with my below average pics (not just the subject matter, also how they've been taken). The only good selling point I had was my words. I guess every so often I've written something that people have liked.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    7 pages of responses? How good is that mate? You must be delighted, no?? I did take the time to read what the first twenty posts were and I see that you have taken absolutely no notice of what has been suggested. Are you someone who is crying out for help? Or are you some sort of narcissist who is revelling in the attention? Personally, I think rhp is not for you. Get out or get help. Spicy :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The OP was making a statement,confirmed that statement by saying that for him he has to be attracted to the visuals ,it doesn't matter about what's written on her profile,he doesn't waste too much time on messages and he has had lots of success here so now his sooky la la la stance,is really, just a public service announcement ..I love a good spin xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Isn't life too short to be worried about other's behaviour? If you're relying on websites to get you laid maybe you need to look at your personality. I'm screwed in the head but women still answer my messages.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ... with the OP's final statement: So guys, the advice to you here, is save the words, spare yourself the reading. Just put up a sexy photo, and don't be completely awful/stupid/offensive - that's it. The medium is entirely visual. It's ALL that matters. The medium is NOT ENTIRELY visual and it is clearly NOT ALL that matters. It's partly visual and partly what matters. As was said earlier in the thread - and, by the way, I had to go refill my drink twice, reading through all this - we are here on RHP and not in pubs or clubs because we know that what we see is not ALL there is. I am the first to admit that I'm not self-confident with my looks. I am entirely confident with my words. I know that I don't always get them right but if it's only about words, I feel I'm in with a chance. It's why I'm willing to open my private album with more detailed pics AFTER I've sent a message. I like to think I'm leading with my strong suit. We're not just catching mice, so the colour of the cat DOES matter, and we don't all like the same colour, nor should we. This isn't some kind of underground orgy, in a padded room and no lights that gets hosed down with Domestos the next morning. The more profiles I read (with and without profile pics, may I add) the more I see people looking for "FWB"s, and the variations seem to be with the emphasis on F or B. Call me old fashioned, I want to be with someone who chooses to be with me. The "why" is the grey area we exist in now, that many of us play in now. For a lot of people who would never even think about joining RHP for any reason, that "why" is something they work out together, hopefully, over a lifetime, amidst all there relationships, in a very "it takes a village..." kind of way. And we're in a kind of village on RHP. I hope I've put enough of my "why" on my profile to start conversations with people. I know I have, since I've been in conversations with people. I've only been back on RHP for less than a week. The conversations help us work out who we want to share pleasure with, fun with, breakfast with, time with - our very selves with. We're none of us perfect. None. What I find exciting about RHP is that I don't know who I'll meet, who I'll fit in with... ... and I don't have to buy drinks. Or dance. And I might *still* find people I connect with. Fan-fucking-tastic. Sorry for the essay, one and all, but after seven pages of posts, I had a lot rattling around in my head.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    oh well, good luck my friend......... Just one thing, what were you expecting to achieve with your thread?.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Do you need to achieve something by stating how you feel about something? OP had an opinion on what he thinks the reason is behind not recieving many replies. Think he said he had one reply in 2 months.He came to his conclusion that it was not his messaging that was the reason, but the fact he didnt have the hot body adonis pics. Thats his opinion. He wanted to state that opinion. He did. So possibly that was all that he needed to achieve. I dont see why he needs to add to that. And that is just my opinion, by the way. 😁

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm with Aries on this one. The OP has written more than one forum along the same lines, and nothing seems to change for him. I actually think his forums are working against him. So OP, I'm curious to find out if any of the responses here have helped you somehow and if there is anything you'll do differently yourself?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Meander, Seriously, have you read a SINGLE word I've written, or did you skim the original post, form an opinion and just get stuck there? How many fucking times are you gonna make the same point - a point I addressed in the ORIGINAL FUCKING POST, in order to just get it out there: YES I WAS FEELING A LITTLE BITTER AMD EXASPERATED AND THIS IS *** IRRELEVANT *** to the point I'm trying to express. You'd already said you'd had enough of this post - was it really necessary for you to come back to it and say THE EXACT SAME THING YOU'D SAID THREE TIMES BEFORE? Not to mention that I've already fucking answered it. Seriously, I get that you're a bit of a queen bee around here, but even without that factor I do apologise for losing my shit a little with this message, but how many times can I answer a question for you not to read it, or respond to my actual point? Anyway, this is largely rhetorical, as I'm done with the post - some people could see what I was attempting (and possibly failing) to get at and provided interesting answers on a variety of angles on this, which is all any forum post should really be about, and as a result I'm done.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    See my question on March 5. No answer is an answer... right!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I totally disagree. I always read profiles and my reaction is based on that. I never actually send flirts myself but felt that I had to say how much I liked one profile that tweaked my interest. Doing so led to us chatting and this led to us meeting up and spending an awesome 3 days together. If I hadn't sent that flirt neither of us would have ever even have considered each other because of location and/or age. So yes.. profiles do work and are important to spend time on. Appearance.... yes it can play a part but in the end its the mind that runs the show and that can be stimulated in a lot of different ways. I do think its rude of people not to reply to messages or flirts though. Regardless of if they are men or women. And as for your statement "not the prettiest dude in the world", personally I find men with facial hair extremely sexy. Keep on smiling cutie!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And words ARE your bitches my friend xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I don't think I said anything offensive, but you do seem to prove my point. You're not painting yourself in the best light on paper, in my opinion (and that's all this is). I'll leave you be from now on OP, I hope things work out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Yeah, I didn't say you said anything offensive - I said that you've said the same thing 4 times now, and that it was largely irrelevant the first time, and that this is frustrating. Also, I did apologise for 'losing my shit' (as mild as it was), but I note you've ignored that also. Anyway, hey - there's absolutely *and I do stress this* no hard feelings, I respect you and what you generally have to say, but your input, I feel, on this post has been pretty much void. Once again, I say to you and anyone else for whom it may matter: I'm all good - I got my venting done in the original post, that's why I had that in there. So please save the crocodile tear-y 'I hope things get better for you' faux-well wishes for someone who could use it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Everything is a lesson. Some are open to learning what the message is telling them.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Wowsy. IMHO .. the unanswered messages have little to do with your pics. Wondering, OP if you realise that forums posts can be searched by username and that all this angst and agression is easily found - even if your profile didn't do a good enough job at that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Some of the nicest people have made the best speech they'll forever regret when angered. Champion this is what I meant by asking "what it was you were you trying to achieve". In the forums it can get a tad rough at times - thus my point. Generally speaking and totally not aiming at anyone here we are all guilty of it at times...People will not hold back in here....I did for a long time but finally surrendered a few days ago....I regret it but I'm guilty too.... Do not worry though. As long as you learn from it. Dare you to challenge yourself - ask yourself what it is Youve learned.... My motto mate - stay calm and soldier on. Good luck going forwards.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I can kind of see where you are coming from, though I cannot agree totally. I know it is going to be true for some but for others I think they would just find this offensive. I have not been here long but have been on other sites, written many letters and had a decent profile but everyone has their choices and perhaps you just aren't theirs. I thought about it hard when I was getting no responses man it pissed me off but then thought if I took say 50 women and got to meet them in the real world not in this virtual pool, how many would actually wish to talk to me. I haven't the answer but I know that it would most likely be much less than 50%. Anyways bloke good luck finding what it is you are seeking. Cheers

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