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Lets get Real...
March 12 2014
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Beachlover1999
12 years ago
Does this man exist???!!!! Lol HELLO.....IS THERE A REAL MAN OUT THERE..........;)))))
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real Men : Ask for directions. Real Men : Aren't t afraid to talk about feelings and emotions. Real Men : Realise that personal hygiene does matter. Using moisturiser and hand cream doesn't make you less of a man Real Men : Know how to change their babies nappies ;)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real Men show emotion and do cry sometimes
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real men are like car parking spots. All the good ones are taken and the only ones left are handicapped.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I wish these articles and the media in general would stop using the terms 'real men' and 'real women', and trying to have us believe that all men and women 'should' be a certain way, both physically and otherwise. I don't particularly like talking about my feelings and emotions much at all, I do not like or wear pink (fuchsia maybe), I hate most chick flicks, and although I am trying to be better I still often run late for social engagements. Does that mean I'm not a 'real woman'??
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't believe in the "Real men" label. What's the alternative, imaginary? I like my men (and women) genuine, nonjudgmental, confident and with dark sense of humour and devious streak to match my own. For reals.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Laugh at the tag 'real men' ;-) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Are accountable for their actions. They are committed to their word. They have some pride in their appearance and behaviour. They demand mutual respect in their friendships and relationships and finally they know that all interactions are a matter of teamwork. Real men know when to follow and when to lead. That's my take on it anyway. Mushy flicks do nothing for me and I don't know any man who would admit to crying. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
it's fine to have your own list of essential and preferred traits for the people you interact and form relationships with, but I do not believe that should be turned into a generalisation about what that gender as a whole should be like. So, some of the traits that are essential / preferred for me in a man are: - open-mindedness (yes a very broad concept I know but that's the thing, I like them to be open-minded in general)- no displays of the 'isms' - racism, sexism, ableism etc.- lack of arrogance- socially and politically aware- at least likes animals - has a respect for the environment- an interest in travelling- can be spontaneous and flexible Obviously it will also depend on my level of involvement with a man as to how many and which traits I look for. If I'm just bonking someone then they may not tick all the boxes, and don't need to.
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RHP User
12 years ago
All they have to do is tick your box, yeah? :P
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RHP User
12 years ago
But now and then we wonder who the real men are...... A lot of what your saying in that track Fox, when you read between the lines of course
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's kind of funny to see how divergent your list is from what a knight would be. Cocky arrogant and amongst other things an enforcer of unjust and unfair laws. Yet knighthood is considered a great honour and boys are taught to show at least textbook knightly behaviors - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Constantly have the piss taken out of them, thus making them turn into lesser versions of themselves... Real men would advertise the fact they were real men, if the constant stigma of being such were not constantly rammed down their throat. As far as I can tell, most of us are real in every way described, but have pushed the feelings, emotions, and engendered responses so far away to fit in with the norm, that they are forgotten about. I have no doubt that men know that it is chivalrous to help a lady into a seat, to help a lady into a car, as well as to bring flowers for the lady of the house when you visit. When I do this, I am looked at askance, as if I am doing something out of the ordinary, when in fact I feel that I am doing the right thing, and everyone else is missing the point entirely. To a certain degree, it has been the fairer sex that has brought about the changes, not wanting "help" telling us that they are perfectly capable of getting in and out of a car. Being embarrassed by the armful of flowers they receive just for being a lady. In today's era of fast everything, as well as sex, how do you fulfill the desire to undress someone's soul before their clothing, if you barely know them? That takes a certain amount of "strings" We guard ourselves from being thought weak and pitiful... If I told you that I cry at movies, and even when someone gets booted off MKR - does that make you think I am more of a man, who wears his emotions on his sleeve, or am I just a bit weird. I would suggest that you would think it was weird - prove me wrong tell me you would think it was sexy going to a movie with a date, and have him cry.What would you say? would you make a joke about it? or feel closer to him... I am one of those guys, so have lots of personal experience. I am also six foot four, and could easily tap dance on someone's forehead if necessary, but I never have.... Many things on the Real men list are taboo now days, and more's the pity. I couldn't care less what people think. I will make a lady feel like a lady. I will ask directions, even if I am asking a lady what pleases her most "where do you like this... what would you like me to do here" Hell - I am not a mind reader I know what works, but I want to do more than is just necessary...So I will ask..... To me it is not a weakness, but the only way you will pleasure someone to the fullest. I will continue to bring flowers, and pull out chairs. I will open doors, and be polite, and I will be looked at strangely by most. But the ladies that appreciate it will give me the warmest of smiles, and that is all I need. Please forgive my rant, but in closing I would like to say that real men exist - but sometimes it is up to a lady to find them in every one of us.... Give us the opportunity to cry with you in the movies, and don't make flippant remarks, just smile and give us a kiss, or hold our hand. If we open the door, say thank you, rather than saying "I am not a child". If we bring flowers, give us a hug and a kiss to say thank you. When we ask for directions - don't say "about bloody time" just be thankful we have. and if one of us bares our soul... bare yours back.. don't feel uncomfortable.. Well, my reply has even taken me by surprise...rant over!! Judge.......
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Goss, I think those who give men and women a label of desire traits are either dreamers or write for the moment they live, that is, they are very happy with their relationships at the time they write. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' I don't believe in the "Real men" label. What's the alternative, imaginary? I like my men (and women) genuine, nonjudgmental, confident and with dark sense of humour and devious streak to match my own. For reals. Everyone has different views,wants and needs...one person may say a "real man" isn't afraid to cry and another may say a man who cries is a sookie big girls blouse who needs to man the fuck up and grow some balls! Me...I love a man to show emotion and not to be afraid to apologise when they know they are in the wrong....but other than that I think most things in that list are more "personality traits" not really signs of being a real man...all men are real...Real gentlemen....Real Arseholes etc
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RHP User
12 years ago
Authentic and have a healthy level of self esteem. They do not need the constant validation of others to make them feel 'ok' and they do not blame others for not caring for their own self esteem. The same goes for 'real women'
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'm assuming that's meant to say "responsible"? Why would a real man be responsible for my well-being? Disagree.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Ubthejudge76'I have no doubt that men know that it is chivalrous to help a lady into a seat, to help a lady into a car, as well as to bring flowers for the lady of the house when you visit. When I do this, I am looked at askance, as if I am doing something out of the ordinary, when in fact I feel that I am doing the right thing, and everyone else is missing the point entirely. To a certain degree, it has been the fairer sex that has brought about the changes, not wanting "help" telling us that they are perfectly capable of getting in and out of a car. Being embarrassed by the armful of flowers they receive just for being a lady. As I have mentioned in these forums before - much to the chagrin of some male posters - I would be one of those women telling you that I am perfectly capable of getting in and out of a car, or into a seat. Unless there was something that was making that task difficult for me to perform on my own, e.g. I was injured or sick, or carrying something heavy. In that case, I would welcome the help, BUT in that case I would also expect help to be offered to me whether or not I was male or female. And that is the big difference that many men don't seem to understand when they get all huffy about some women not wanting all the 'help' that they received (or was forced upon them) before....that the expectation is not for them to be 'chivalrous' and perform tokenistic acts only towards women because of outdated ideas about females which frankly are downright patronising, BUT that we rather expect that they will show courtesy and provide assistance to any human being, whether male or female (or any other gender identification). If I am going through a door and someone is coming in after me, I will hold the door open for them, regardless of their gender. If a man does that, I have no problem with it, but if he only does it for women because 'chivalry', that's when it grates on me. And that is my simple distinction :-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
That was more than a little offensive. :-(
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RHP User
12 years ago
Same as a real woman!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real men wear a beard. Can men treat women fabulously without a code of conduct like Chivalry? - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
find the traits I posted, appealing and attractive qualities. I think a "Real" man knows exactly who he is. Foxy
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gazpacho
12 years ago
What are the others? Unreal. That's pretty cool. I'm unreal! Yeah. Unreal Gazpacho the Man. That's me. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Did I read that right? A real man hits and belittles someone else's kid because they had the misadventure to fall over?!!! And think it's acceptable because you paid for the privilege?!!!!.....I'll give you this tip for free...... You don't wanna try that to MY kid! :( - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
As I have mentioned in these forums before - much to the chagrin of some male posters - I would be one of those women telling you that I am perfectly capable of getting in and out of a car, or into a seat. Unless there was something that was making that task difficult for me to perform on my own, e.g. I was injured or sick, or carrying something heavy. In that case, I would welcome the help, BUT in that case I would also expect help to be offered to me whether or not I was male or female. And that is the big difference that many men don't seem to understand when they get all huffy about some women not wanting all the 'help' that they received (or was forced upon them) before....that the expectation is not for them to be 'chivalrous' and perform tokenistic acts only towards women because of outdated ideas about females which frankly are downright patronising, BUT that we rather expect that they will show courtesy and provide assistance to any human being, whether male or female (or any other gender identification). If I am going through a door and someone is coming in after me, I will hold the door open for them, regardless of their gender. If a man does that, I have no problem with it, but if he only does it for women because 'chivalry', that's when it grates on me. And that is my simple distinction :-) Touche', and a fair comment, I think that what you are saying is that chivalry should not be gender bias, but in reality, there are a lot of mixed standards there. While a lot of women would like their man to be chivalrous, they also want to show that they are not dependent. Please do not confuse my being polite enough to offer a seat in a train to a lady, with my thinking that she is incapable of standing on her own two feet. There is a distinction between being polite and being disdainful. If I were to open a car door for you, Luck...I would not make a show of it, nor would there be fireworks or champagne... We amble to the car, I "happen" to be on the same side as you are going to sit. I open the door, lean in to give you a peck on the cheek and close it for you... done. At a restaurant, we would be led to our table, and I would pull your chair out - you would sit. Of course I would hold a door for any age, gender of physical ability. Is that being over the top? Is that removing some of your independence? I would hope not as it was never intended that way. While I would not give flowers to a man, if I was invited into a house by the male partner - in my mind, he is the host, and will recieve a good bottle of red wine. I guess that in this day and age, where the glass ceiling has been proven to exist, and ladies are struggling to break through (a struggle that I commend, applaud and support) there seems to be a disconnect between being treated like a lady, and being treated like an equal. Do not believe for a second that I would take umbrage at you refusing my chivalrous advances, I would think no less of you either way. That being said... I would still offer you a seat on a train. Judge
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RHP User
12 years ago
In my experience there's a big difference between what women SAY they want In a man and what they're actually attracted to In RL. If you want a guy who is both warrior AND scholar then perhaps It's time to look at yourself. I think there's a lot of unfair expectations put on guys, especially for those of us who had useless parents and hard childhoods, I'd like to see women prepared to take the time to teach their men. This idea that 'men can't be changed / saved/ rescued' is complete bollox, we're all here to teach one another and help our friends to grow and evolve, to me that's the whole point of relationships.
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RHP User
12 years ago
All Men are Real Men . Just as all Women are Real Women . Any other concept is simply a construct of an Individual's perception . "Real" people come in all different shapes , sizes , colours and guises. GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'IllBloUrFnMinds'A REAL MAN picks up a crying neighbourhood kid off the ground, dusts him off, then gives him $5 and tells him to go to the cornershop to get himself a treat, then clips him across the ear for being stupid enough to fall over in the first place. Hmm...no...this isn't the 1950s anymore. If you go around hitting random children (never ok, but particularly for the ridiculous reason you state) then you are certainly not a 'real' man, but I can guarantee you're going to end up in the middle of a very real shitstorm.
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madotara69
12 years ago
And ponder to the meanings with it all. Try and care to it, by trusting feelings and recognizing they have purpose and all to meanings, do what you have to do and there is no other better only committed to what is better to themselves, some remarkable for the commitment, another man can learn from remarkable traits and commit to better themselves. What one man finds remarkable is each mans journey. I find remarkable traits to women and respect given, just the same is all remarkable lessons from men and women help me to try and care often done in silence, makes for the most real things, but silence can be a busy place, lots going on, not always simple in simplicity is it a sinch to find voice of reason, there is no point whinging out loud about what typically is of no reason to the meaning, just be annoying don't ya think? At a guess, it's what meanings to what a man really means, this man shall refrain from speaking for women to this, I'm not a woman, women speak for themselves of their selves, as long women know where they stand and feel comfortable to be their self, I try and care to that with all emotion and feelings to commitment. Man has got to do what he has got to do with meanings to it. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
That is never ok and only a coward bully does that! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
All of the things Judge mentioned. And it doesn't make me feel any less independent. I like chivalry
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real men wear green jumpers, drink pints of beer and have Peter Pan complexes.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Nah, it's just another label and I hate labels! No such thing as a real man any more than a real women. People are people. The end. Nuff said. Kisses, J (Mrs) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't go around saying someone is not a 'real woman' same as I wouldn't expect someone to say I'm not a 'real man'....... you just find someone with the qualities that you like. If they don't then your not a match with that person and move on. I am who I am and am comfortable in my skin knowing I am not going to appeal to everyone. Oh, and I won't be wearing pink any time in a hurry as its just not me Cheers, W.
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RHP User
12 years ago
A man that's not scared of a real woman.. let you know when I meet one..
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MissBishere
12 years ago
I concur with what you said. But I have to say I find crying uncomfortable from females as well as males :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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HereToPlease77
12 years ago
Don't eat quiche
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' All they have to do is tick your box, yeah? :P That's one of the essentials
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' What are the others? Unreal. That's pretty cool. I'm unreal! Yeah. Unreal Gazpacho the Man. That's me. HugsGazpacho People should give a damn, be considerat of others, care for one and other and nature, smile, be happy, positive, creative, humourous. Being open sharing feelings laying your soul bare arent easy to do because we all come with some set of consciousness that was affected by life. The last couple of days I wished I could return to the real me.........she was the best. Still trying as we all should.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Know the importance of turning up? Bwahaha. Tell that to the RHP fake men. :p I agree with the comments about this being patronising article and I think it's man bashing.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Passive aggressive man bashing. Is there such a term?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'looking4quality' All of the things Judge mentioned. And it doesn't make me feel any less independent. I like chivalry it's your prerogative to like it, I know I don't speak for all women. I was just explaining where I and some other women who don't like it - or should I say, some aspects of it - are coming from. I think a lot comes down to the man's reasoning behind his 'chivalrous' actions as well. When you look at a man like, say, Mike Huckabee (U.S. potential presidential candidate, whom I happen to be reading an article about at the moment), it is obvious that his expression of chivalry is based on an underlying belief that women are not really on the same 'level' as men...that they need special treatment, and to be put up on a pedestal because they are fragile, dainty little things, mentally and physically. It is problematic in his case because he isn't affording his female opponents the same level of professional respect as his male ones. And it's the beliefs like his that I really have a problem with, and I certainly don't want special treatment from a man who thinks of women as delicate little flowers in the way that he does (along with the majority of his political party, notorious for their rather archaic ideas about women and their roles).
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
I didn't think this was negative at all nor showed any hostility towards men. It didn't think it ran men down in my eyes. Actually if some men can do those things, to me they are being REAL. What's wrong with being the REAL? I have known men and the very thought of having a conversation about women's periods, just turns their stomachs, they won't buy their partners tampons, nor even consider their feelings/emotions at that time of month. So I do think a man who is REAL, can talk about them, is not disgusted, is understanding and is thoughtful/respectful when a woman has her periods. What's wrong with a guy who will sit and watch a chic flick?? Secretly I think some men like some chick flicks, bet 1/2 of them won't admit it ho?? ;) Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
It is implying that if a man does not have one of those qualities then they are not a man. The article is trying to shame men into acting a certain way. Poor form.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
How many men run when they hear the words "We need to talk"? Oh come on, some men on here would run a mile and 1/2 under 30secs, if they heard a woman say that to them. So how many men would stick around and want to hear what the woman has to say, is open-minded to her, respectful and listen to her? Hummmmmm makes one wonder?? Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
It teaches women that a man is not good enough if he doesn't have those qualities. It's that type of self help drivel that reinforces all the miscommunication men and women already have.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' It is implying that if a man does not have one of those qualities then they are not a man. The article is trying to shame men into acting a certain way. Poor form. I have not missed the point...The article is not trying to shame men into acting a certain way. Sorry I don't agree. It's talking about positive appealing traits not turn off traits or actions. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
are not real What's real? Well thats subjective
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Did you read the last sentence, there you will grasp what the article is about. Did you miss that? Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man.
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RHP User
12 years ago
All men are realthat women's magazine crapola stuff , its the same as real women bake muffins? Every guy on this planet is real, each man communicates in his own way some men fail where others strive I hate these cartoon definitions of things hands Foxy War and Peace and gets Freeya to take foxy to the library and get her books that weigh over ten kilo
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RHP User
12 years ago
.....are just soooooooo boring Nothing to do with shame..
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Ubthejudge76' Constantly have the piss taken out of them, thus making them turn into lesser versions of themselves... Real men would advertise the fact they were real men, if the constant stigma of being such were not constantly rammed down their throat. As far as I can tell, most of us are real in every way described, but have pushed the feelings, emotions, and engendered responses so far away to fit in with the norm, that they are forgotten about. I have no doubt that men know that it is chivalrous to help a lady into a seat, to help a lady into a car, as well as to bring flowers for the lady of the house when you visit. When I do this, I am looked at askance, as if I am doing something out of the ordinary, when in fact I feel that I am doing the right thing, and everyone else is missing the point entirely. To a certain degree, it has been the fairer sex that has brought about the changes, not wanting "help" telling us that they are perfectly capable of getting in and out of a car. Being embarrassed by the armful of flowers they receive just for being a lady. In today's era of fast everything, as well as sex, how do you fulfill the desire to undress someone's soul before their clothing, if you barely know them? That takes a certain amount of "strings" We guard ourselves from being thought weak and pitiful... If I told you that I cry at movies, and even when someone gets booted off MKR - does that make you think I am more of a man, who wears his emotions on his sleeve, or am I just a bit weird. I would suggest that you would think it was weird - prove me wrong tell me you would think it was sexy going to a movie with a date, and have him cry.What would you say? would you make a joke about it? or feel closer to him... I am one of those guys, so have lots of personal experience. I am also six foot four, and could easily tap dance on someone's forehead if necessary, but I never have.... Many things on the Real men list are taboo now days, and more's the pity. I couldn't care less what people think. I will make a lady feel like a lady. I will ask directions, even if I am asking a lady what pleases her most "where do you like this... what would you like me to do here" Hell - I am not a mind reader I know what works, but I want to do more than is just necessary...So I will ask..... To me it is not a weakness, but the only way you will pleasure someone to the fullest. I will continue to bring flowers, and pull out chairs. I will open doors, and be polite, and I will be looked at strangely by most. But the ladies that appreciate it will give me the warmest of smiles, and that is all I need. Please forgive my rant, but in closing I would like to say that real men exist - but sometimes it is up to a lady to find them in every one of us.... Give us the opportunity to cry with you in the movies, and don't make flippant remarks, just smile and give us a kiss, or hold our hand. If we open the door, say thank you, rather than saying "I am not a child". If we bring flowers, give us a hug and a kiss to say thank you. When we ask for directions - don't say "about bloody time" just be thankful we have. and if one of us bares our soul... bare yours back.. don't feel uncomfortable.. Well, my reply has even taken me by surprise...rant over!! Judge....... so I can be the judge, and thanks for that great post your all man honey and no you sticky noses I never slept with him, cause we had passed the bedroom section of Ikea by they time he got there.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' How many men run when they hear the words "We need to talk"? Oh come on, some men on here would run a mile and 1/2 under 30secs, if they heard a woman say that to them. So how many men would stick around and want to hear what the woman has to say, is open-minded to her, respectful and listen to her? Hummmmmm makes one wonder?? Foxy Do you mind, if we take some time off without distractions to have a conversation about ( insert topic) please.that we need to talk, I would say talk to the hand if someone said that to me, unless it was in a joke.and no men do not run a mile, when things are important and talking about your period is not on my hit list either. Nor is talking about a guys piles , does that mean I am not a real woman?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Im still trying to come to terms with real man: is it not a personality that makes a man or woman ? Not a generic aspersion that if you can't do these things you can't be real.ah well could i really implement my personality in words - yep just have :-) and yes i consider myself a "real man " - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I thinkshe is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Real men are supposed to be this this this Real women are supposed to be that that that. No! These are checklists of someone who needs to write a bullshit article their editor has told them to because gullible people take it in. There's you, me, and everyone else as themselves. Its up to us as individuals to see what we personally feel is important and real to us in each person because every man and woman brings different things to the table based on their life. In regards to sexist and racist, we ALL are. Just because you have friends of various races does not mean youve never made a stereotypical racial reference (e.g bloody asians who cant drive, what a sleazy wog, etc). Same goes for sexist comments. That's my 20cents - Posted from rhpmobile
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I thinkshe is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Actually, I think even as a literal statement, it takes more than a penis to make one a man. I'm going to chalk it up as one of those frantic keyboard moments.... A six foot penis. How intriguing. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I think she is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Mees just making a personal opinion. I think heterosexuals are effing weird. How can anyone be straight. Its not a natural condition to be monogamous or hetero. Its not something I would ever espouse to.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Stop this stereotypical bull shit!!! When I read this forum, I was like here we go again and until I read the comment below. I would have said was there an article on what "real women" do? Utter crap read. Stick to being you before trying to be someone else. Our environment dictates who and what we become. Our imperfections is what makes us unique. Embrace it and love oneself Quoting 'Luckdragon23' I wish these articles and the media in general would stop using the terms 'real men' and 'real women', and trying to have us believe that all men and women 'should' be a certain way, both physically and otherwise. I don't particularly like talking about my feelings and emotions much at all, I do not like or wear pink (fuchsia maybe), I hate most chick flicks, and although I am trying to be better I still often run late for social engagements. Does that mean I'm not a 'real woman'??
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ubethejudge! You nailed it! 50 gold stars - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy'Did you read the last sentence, there you will grasp what the article is about. Did you miss that? Foxy I must agree with Meeka about the passive-aggressive man bashing. All I see is a list of things men should be, or they're not real/good enough. And Sweetgem, I know you meant nothing by your comment and think EB is being too harsh on you. I think a real man is anyone born with a male brain, not matter what other bits they may or may not have.
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RHP User
12 years ago
That is so much work!!! Can I have an assistant with me 24/7 just so I don't bugger it up? I'm not in the know on chick flicks, can I just get a Channing Tatum movie instead? Chivalry is fine but I hate when I open the door for so done and those idiots take advantage of it and I'm stuck there for ages
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RHP User
12 years ago
Was that a Freudian slip? :-P
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yeah i said it! Lol. Some are good and some make me want to throw up. But it's something different from the constant watching of sport, action movies with the most BS things in them , and comedies nowhere near as funny as back in the day when it wasn't all politically correct. Doesn't make me less of a real man for a particular intrrest. It just means its a movie I enjoyed. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
12 years ago
Quoting 'looking4quality' Real Men : Ask for directions. Real Men : Aren't t afraid to talk about feelings and emotions. Real Men : Realise that personal hygiene does matter. Using moisturiser and hand cream doesn't make you less of a man Real Men : Know how to change their babies nappies ;)AAn worthy addendum. Funny. yes. all true sister....
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RHP User
12 years ago
Foxy, I think there are many men who find it difficult to 'talk' or who hate chick flicks etc. but equally, there are many women who do likewise. A man could postulate that a 'real woman' watches sport, drinks beer and belches loud and proud; others would say a real woman raises children and has dinner on the table when he gets home then shows her appreciation in the bedroom. I don't think we can say 'men = a + b/c. I think 'real' is about being honest with yourself and liking what you like and disliking what you dislike and importantly, being okay with that. And I think that should be a measure of who you are and how 'real' you are, not your gender (and its stereotype). Just my thoughts though, Kisses, J (Mrs) P.s great topic! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Unfettered common respect and admiration. I adore women, I cant live without them in my life, not just for sex but for friendship. To me this whole real man thing is deeply flawed. I find it rather amusing that some seen to think its this or its that a man must do to be real. You will know when you meet a real man because he will cherish being with you, respect the time time you give him and really pay attention to you and your needs.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Quoting 'LadyTuscan' hands Foxy War and Peace and gets Freeya to take foxy to the library and get her books that weigh over ten kilo What does that mean exactly? Why would you ask someone to take me to the library to get books that weigh 10kgs for? Some people enjoy reading and going to the library. Have I missed a cue or some fink? Is there something you are trying to say? Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
I don't think that was necessary Lady T. I think you are better than that. Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
I don't think that was necessary Lady T. I think you are better than that. Foxy
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custardapples
12 years ago
Real Men make origami cranes and put the toilet seat down after using it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I disagree....with you Bianca. Real men are out there. Sometimes ladies look straight past them, because your radars aren't in tune with your real needs. We all have boxes we would like to have ticked when we meet someone. The difference is which group, what rank and where on our list are these ticks? And are these ticks, the must haves(needs) or superficial? Koz.
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I don't understand, EuropianBliss, why did you feel the need to give a personal attack on my comment?! And by mentioning my age, you are actually doing a personal attack on me (while I have done nothing to offend you), and not just my response to Foxy's Thread! Why? I think you have read too much into my simple comment, which I have no intention to offend anyone! I don't need to explain myself to anyone on this Thread about my simple comment, because it really is just what it reads literally and there is no hidden meaning like you've read! That was all your own interpretation and misunderstanding, not what I meant! Were you a man before you've become who you are now? That's why you read too much into my comment and got offended? I would have expected someone in your age to be more calm and sane! But you've proved me wrong! Maybe you're the one who is so not in tune with the real world, given your level of maturity and sanity! Sigh!
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I think she is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Mees just making a personal opinion. I think heterosexuals are effing weird. How can anyone be straight. Its not a natural condition to be monogamous or hetero. Its not something I would ever espouse to. What makes you think you can speak for all human beings, EuropianBliss? Please remember that I am also entitled to voice my opinions, and that I would never go and attack anyone personally without them being rude to me first! Even if my past comments might have some harsh tones in them, they were merely made in response to the topics, and not the person or people who made the Threads! That's a big difference! Therefore, please keep your abuse to yourself and leave me alone from now on!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sometimes people say things innocently enough but thy end up offending other people. I believe that EBliss is upset that you are saying that a man is someone who has to have been born with a penis, which you realise offends transgender people. It is a sensitive topic for them. I don't think you meant to offend anyone. Although, sorry to say this.... I am outraged that you would ask someone if they were a man before. I think that is terrible. Thumbs down from me. By the way I have met Miss EBliss... And she is one sexy woman..... That would scare the bejesus out of the vanilla folk. Lol. Kisses to Miss EB.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I hope you understand now why saying anyone is real or not offends a lot of people.
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I thinkshe is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Actually, I think even as a literal statement, it takes more than a penis to make one a man. I'm going to chalk it up as one of those frantic keyboard moments.... A six foot penis. How intriguing. HugsGazpacho But I wasn't even going into anything deep to give my definition of a real man :-) I was only saying that if one was born with a penis, then he would be classified as male, just like if one was born with a vagina, then she is classified as female, simple as that! But if my comment implied any negative message to you, my apologies, never my intention for a negative meaning :-)
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Its not a natural condition to be monogamous or hetero. Don't think nature intended to be quoted to suit your intentions, try telling the Kookaburra to pass on it's mate, they have a condition too, life partners, love maybe. What sort of condition is it what you mean? Is there a real condition or merely a dream, by that you quote such so naturally, native or just naughty in nature? Another condition that seems to fit , natural it would be, those who do not know the feelings and emotions of such natural as nature be, love is bliss miss bliss. The condition of blissful love a forever thing, for us weirdos, that is miss Bliss, as real as real can be. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Can we not just be ourselves and stand or fall based on who we are as individuals? We aren't going to like everybody we meet and vice versa. The reasons are many and varied.
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sweetgem
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Sometimes people say things innocently enough but thy end up offending other people. I believe that EBliss is upset that you are saying that a man is someone who has to have been born with a penis, which you realise offends transgender people. It is a sensitive topic for them. I don't think you meant to offend anyone. Although, sorry to say this.... I am outraged that you would ask someone if they were a man before. I think that is terrible. Thumbs down from me. By the way I have met Miss EBliss... And she is one sexy woman..... That would scare the bejesus out of the vanilla folk. Lol. Kisses to Miss EB. But I am offended and outraged too that EuropianBliss has given a personal attack on me in the open Forums, while I have done nothing wrong to offend her first! Worse even when she mentioned that I was so not in tune with the real world at my age! So she deserves it! Like I always say, I would never give personal attack on anyone personally unless they come and bite me first! So why not be more respectful to me in the first place?! If I say something and the message is not clear, then ask me to define my definition before attacking me! Like what Meander has done in one of my Threads about foul language. Meander wasn't sure what type of language would be offensive to me, so she checked first instead of making an attack so bluntly!
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'sweetgem' But I wasn't even going into anything deep to give my definition of a real man :-) I was only saying that if one was born with a penis, then he would be classified as male, just like if one was born with a vagina, then she is classified as female, simple as that! But if my comment implied any negative message to you, my apologies, never my intention for a negative meaning :-) Thanks Sweetgem. I'm sure you didn't mean to upset anyone. If only I had a bigger penis when I was born, I might not be so confused about gender issues now. (That's actually a lame effort to joke). The "Real Man" concept emasculates men who do not expose the same values as those predicated by the author of "real men are" statements. It is a passive aggressive attack on gender identity. Just as your comment about being "born with a penis" comment passively attacks people who have good reason to consider that they have been born with genitals that do not belong. Gender identity is a very complicated social science and, I think, is not as simple as whether or not you are born with a cunt or a cock or an intersex combo, or micro genitals. In being simplistic, you risk offending others who are directly impacted by your assumptions, as well as the friends of those people. Gender identity, sexual identity and dna do not always match. That's what is so beautiful about the human condition, free will and a liberated society. Put us all back in the dark ages and any woman who is a bit horny is considered sick. We're liberated and I hope, better informed than back then, but we are still ignorant as a result of the fact that we are the product of our own little circles of experience and exposure to the lives of those who's life experiences are uniquely different to your own. We look at things from our now world view, which is unavoidable, but we ought try and understand the world view of others, I think. Sad fact is, this written forum has no edit facility, so simply by participating we all risk upsetting someone. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I thinkshe is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Actually, I think even as a literal statement, it takes more than a penis to make one a man. I'm going to chalk it up as one of those frantic keyboard moments.... A six foot penis. How intriguing. HugsGazpacho Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Quoting 'sweetgem'Is someone who was born with a penis biologically, full stop! Lol Your 34 and so not in tune with the real world ???. My gawd. Good luck finding your ideal man. I know her, and the last thing this women would be is a redneck, so there is a miss communication here I think she is only saying that her definition is just the literal one. I guess like people think all women have to have a pussy. and we know that gender definition is not always that simple. Mees just making a personal opinion. I think heterosexuals are effing weird. How can anyone be straight. Its not a natural condition to be monogamous or hetero. Its not something I would ever espouse to. in the animal kingdom it varies and we are all animalsI guess for me its preference, I can be with women, but not on an emotional level as far as intimate sex goes. But then who knows, you met the right person at the right time. Its natural for those people to be that way at that point in time of their lives. what I do not like is that people feel that pressure to be all things to all men and women. If its not natural for anyone to they should no do it in the first place, or else its contrived sexuality.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy'Quoting 'LadyTuscan' hands Foxy War and Peace and gets Freeya to take foxy to the library and get her books that weigh over ten kilo What does that mean exactly? Why would you ask someone to take me to the library to get books that weigh 10kgs for? Some people enjoy reading and going to the library. Have I missed a cue or some fink? Is there something you are trying to say? Foxy about not reading this kind of stuff, its woman's weekly on crackit was more a comment on the article not you honey
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Participating in this forum is for my benefit, to try and broaden my world view. We should all resist the temptation to type wild responses, which I know is difficult and Im possibly the worst offender, but if only we first stop and think..... Also, I may have been dreaming at the time, because my mind plays tricks on me often and I have no idea who I'm fucking, but I think I may have been fucked by EB with a strap on at some stage. She's all woman... a wild .... dangerously seductive woman, and I'd tap that for sure. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' I don't think that was necessary Lady T. I think you are better than that. Foxy it was a bloody joke, but if you need a tissue then I will give you one
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RHP User
12 years ago
Look I totally understand why EBliss upset you and why you are angry. But since I know how passionate EBliss is about free expression and the rights of people who are transgender and the millions of variations in between I can understand why she is upset too. So I see both sides. I give this thread 1 hour before it self destructs.
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Look I totally understand why EBliss upset you and why you are angry. But since I know how passionate EBliss is about free expression and the rights of people who are transgender and the millions of variations in between I can understand why she is upset too. So I see both sides. I give this thread 1 hour before it self destructs. I think everyone should kiss and make up.... but of course, only real men would do that. HUgsGazpacho
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Wanting a partner like SG does, is not something to be ridiculed at all, as deep down everyone here secretly likes a happy ending, including Gaz but his involves ten hands, three mouths, six cocks and a partridge in a pear tree. LadyT trying to maintain her cool. How very dare you associate any flack about wanting a life partner with anything whatsoever that I have said, here or in real life, now or at any time. You have me mixed up with another. Meah, no need for apologies. Men have broad shoulders..... HUgsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
SuperFoxxxy, this thread seems to have wondered somewhat from its original theme. I do not believe that the intent was to bash men, either physically, or emotionally. In my experience, most men are real men in every sense of the definitions that you have quoted, but, due to the stereotypes expected, hide that part of themselves fairly deep down. I guess that a reasonable analogy would be the smartie, or mentos mints.. Men have become conditioned to having hard shell... If you suck on them long enough (pun possibly intended) you get to the soft gooey center. Some men have thin shells, and share easily (like me), and some have a very thick shell that you may never get through. LuckDragon made some very good points, and it has to be noted that chivalry can be seen by some as patronising, and in fact I am sure some men try to exert pressure by being overly masculine, and overly obvious in their chivalry... LOOK AT ME... I AM PULLING OUT MY LADIES CHAIR.... AREN"T I A BIG MAN. I believe that Chivalry is an extension of good manners, but should also be understated and appropriate. To the ladies that have supported chivalry, I thank you for reaffirming my faith in the way I act - I hope to get to meet some of you down the road. Lady T, had I known all I needed to do was lead you to the bed section of IKEA, everybody here would have seen the result on the six o'clock news! Sweetgem, I have read many of your posts, and appreciate your humor. May all of your lovers have a penis when required, and boobs when not!! Meander - I cried like a baby when I watched Marley and me... and I like the odd chick flick....but please don't tell anyone... I like being though of as the big strong rugby player!!! Please all kiss and make up.. we are all friends. Judge...
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Look I totally understand why EBliss upset you and why you are angry. But since I know how passionate EBliss is about free expression and the rights of people who are transgender and the millions of variations in between I can understand why she is upset too. So I see both sides. I give this thread 1 hour before it self destructs. Copy paste before it happens, wasted time every thing from our minds goes up in a puff of smoke, touch of a button Rod has spoken, typo it was spelt with a G, how silly to call one Godney, poor Rodney has to deal with this mixed up junk every day. Though just to say for the next few minutes of worth, E Bliss defending each to their own, blew it by criticizing me, a real man in love, straight and stand by my wife something we chose to our life, we are wierdo's and termed unnatural? If I said that of transgender wouldn't there be a show?
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' God. (brilliant) Mado, Im typing this slowly so that it gets a chance to settle in when you read it..... You my friend, fortunately, will never be normal. You're a weirdo. It's a condition that should be embraced and delighted. Nothing upsets me more than to be branded normal. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' Quoting 'LadyTuscan' Wanting a partner like SG does, is not something to be ridiculed at all, as deep down everyone here secretly likes a happy ending, including Gaz but his involves ten hands, three mouths, six cocks and a partridge in a pear tree. LadyT trying to maintain her cool. How very dare you associate any flack about wanting a life partner with anything whatsoever that I have said, here or in real life, now or at any time. You have me mixed up with another. Meah, no need for apologies. Men have broad shoulders..... HUgsGazpacho you got that comment so wrong, its not even going to be worth explaining. so you can take it how you like it and put it where every man has dared to go spade and shovel now in hand and heading home
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RHP User
12 years ago
I beg your pardon? What pot am I calling black? Sorry your comments make no sense to me at all.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Quoting 'friskyeatin' Stop this stereotypical bull shit!!! When I read this forum, I was like here we go again and until I read the comment below. I would have said was there an article on what "real women" do? Utter crap read. Stick to being you before trying to be someone else. Our environment dictates who and what we become. Our imperfections is what makes us unique. Embrace it and love oneself So, if a woman said NO to you, would you take it as a NO and respect her for being herself or do you make here feel worse for saying "You've just made me feel uncomfortable". A 'REAL" man in my eyes DOES respect a woman when she says NO the first time, not after 3 times of saying No! Just saying...... Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
People have a right to their privacy. Someone may have said something about themselves a Year ago... Doesn't mean that they want it said now.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Most horrible thread ever.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Re-read your comment. I see what you mean. You are upset because EB called heterosexuals weirdos. Fair enough.
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Thanks to everyone who has posted. I really didn't think this forum would have so many different views, after reading an article and I just wanted to know "What does a 'REAL" man mean to you??". Very interesting responses. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
Time to summarise all this and get on the same page before we all end up with pink eye. Whether you all like it or not a real man or a real woman is someone born anatomicall correct with those body parts. Then comes the rest of it where unfortunately there's something inside these boys and girls who grow up to be who they feel they are. Therefore if a boy grows up to be gay he's still a real man. If he grows to want to get a sex change then he feels there is a woman in him. He's still a real person. Real is not defined by what we do or not for the other person's selfish checklist. It takes as much effort to put the toilet seat back down when we put it up. A real man in the 40's and 50's smacked his woman and kids because that was the go. A real man was someone working in the mines not the office. A real man didn't need to ask for directions... do you see this is just stereotypes? Do you see how WRONG half thst shit sounds like? No I don't want to hear a bout your rags or the Red Wings coming to town. No I don't care if Brian died on days of our lives. mI'm a man and I exist in my own ways. I'm still real. Every man and woman is the same...real. they exist in their own way. To some they will be fake to someone else they'll be all they wished for. If I like sport more than movie time with a woman it doesn't make me less man. It might make me a douchebag but not less a man. In such a situation the two will compromise. BOOM! Yes I really did that because I felt like it lol. Rant over. - Posted from rhpmobile
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