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People who constantly point out grammar mistakes are pretty much jerks, scientists find
April 07 2016
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Andremmo
10 years ago
Well I'll say that as a technical writer, it conjures odd pictures when I see things like 'hands around my waste' but I've managed to conceal my pedantry so far. And in light of the other thread currently active perhaps the correction should have been 'hands in my waste' - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I don't constantly point it out (unless I'm being a smart ass to someone who was already a jerk to me) but it does annoy the hell out of me. For instance, I wouldn't point out that extrovert is spelt incorrectly in the article, because that's just being jerk I have to say though, I am one of those jerks that sees spelling mistakes and grammar and assumes the person is less intelligent than someone who writes well. Ahh stuff it, I'm a jerk, who am I trying to kid?! Miss Little xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
'hands in my waste' Forgive me if I don't shake hands, lol. Somehow it brings to mind pictures of fisting. Another current thread... hehe Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
...browser plug-ins that will help eliminate both spelling and some cases, grammatical errors. The two that come to mind first are ieSpell and Speccie, both of which are designed for IE Explorer (now Edge) and there are any number of others for browsers such as Firefox. These will correct spelling and grammar...unfortunately nuthin' can hep wif stupid.
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RHP User
10 years ago
so....this is a continuation of the anal fisting thread eh?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
'Beauty fades, dumb is forever.' Judge Judy But, really, I had an attitude like yours once upon a time. It's so easy I thought... but with the computer as a basically self taught art in my case, I have no idea of what you're talking about? Does that make me stupid? Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Stirry' so....this is a continuation of the anal fisting thread eh?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile More about jerking off? Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
yeah....wankers are everywhere..... I found another one this morning looking back at me in the bathroom..... Fucken sexy as fuck he was too....not too talkative though, he was brushing his teeth at the same time I was...such a freaky thing though when he could tell when I was about to look up, as he did too!!! Lol :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Whatever gets you off Sir. Peachy :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Have you been breaking into your neighbours house again?😎
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RHP User
10 years ago
I love the idea that this post is an opposite approach from what we often see in the forum. Not attacking people for their spelling or grammar. Not defending them either. But calling to account the people with the problem. As aptly pointed out by yourself Deep. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
I wouldn't call it breaking in.....I just forgot my key lmfao - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Now that you're in the same house... Maybe you 2 could find a room of your own to get off on and leave my thread to the topic it is based on now. Thanks. I wouldn't like to think this is deliberate behaviour considering that supposedly doesn't exist in the forums. Cheers, Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Stirry' so....this is a continuation of the anal fisting thread eh?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile Is there a valid reason why I should consider looking at the anal fisting thread?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Stupid people equate the lack of correct selling and grammar with a lack of intelligence. Illiteracy affects around 50 per cent of adults in Australia. The shame that people feel can be overwhelming. I support young people who have a learning disability,they are often accused of being lazy or stupid,it's a struggle for them to even come to school let alone feel confident in their ability to learn. So the next time you mock someone or get annoyed with their inability to spell correctly,think on this,you are fortunate that you are not dyslexic, or have another kind of learning disability..lucky you. Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Wont happen again
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm sorry neither of you could find a moment to entertain the actual subject of the thread. My bad. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
peachy...... There's enough of me for you to join in too :p Xx - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'll be back. I appreciated that the article was not about attacking or defending people's spelling and grammar but approached the topic from the angle that the inquisitor has the issue. It was a change I know. Cheers, Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes, I'm a grammar nerd, so spank me…………………...
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RHP User
10 years ago
to mock people who make spelling and grammatical errors. I see the mistakes, ignore and carry on reading. It makes zero difference to how I view that person. The same as money/status/job/assets/material possessions/what type of car they drive or what clothes they wear (with the exception of budgie smugglers lol sorry guys). How do any of those things help us assess the PERSON? In recent years, I've changed my outlook on a lot of things, now appreciate what really matters in life, and appreciate open, honest people. Does it matter to me whether they can spell? No
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RHP User
10 years ago
I didn't exactly address the topic but open, less sensitive to typos, that would be me
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RHP User
10 years ago
Some of the nicest people I've met weren't very good at spelling, or sometimes grammar, and not particularly academic but the items they could make from how they pictured it in their head were dimensionally perfect and totally individual. Their craft wasn't with words it was what their brain could envision for their hands to do :). Gives a different aspect on intelligence.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I thought I had.....referenced the op that is by asking if it were a continuation of the anal fisting thread. I asked this because I kinda equate chastising people in a negative way about their spelling/grammar like copping a fist up the arse..... Or am I using a poor analogy on that one?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I before E except after C f..k i think I'm ready to put my bum on a seat ask for a grant and tackle global warming
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RHP User
10 years ago
Timely! I just read about work that looked at the relationship between conscientiousness and intelligence. Or should I say, the lack of a relationship. A technically perfect sentence, is only part of what a sentence can be. I'd rather read ideas that are evocative, clever, or witty, (etc) rather than grammatically perfect. Ideas is so much more thrilling, to me.
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RHP User
10 years ago
(dork)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'PepperRose' Timely! I just read about work that looked at the relationship between conscientiousness and intelligence. Or should I say, the lack of a relationship. I've spent some time making a study of the executive and working memories as they relate to both our conscientious and subconscious minds...quite amazing as the former is more of a mechanical function and the latter an emotional function. Writing and speaking are (hopefully) functions of both and 'intelligence' is so far as it is a relative measure of something we are fully yet to understand ... is a compilation of all of these quite human and very amazing functions of the mind. It is incomprehensible to think we will understand either...let alone grammatically dysfunction.
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RHP User
10 years ago
...YOU try typing one-handed. It ain't easy.
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RHP User
10 years ago
a study of 83 people.....is ...a very small study :) But I find it highly interesting that the author uses the term "social judgement" - this is a very fitting term to describe what is nothing more than one's SUBJECTIVE opinion agreed by others...judgement????? BS there is no SOCIAL JUDGEMENT...only the law can judge a person or their behaviour...everything else is an opinion...it would be high time people stop SOCIAL JUDGING others... btw RHP could do with a spell check programme update - it keeps underlying words that are spelt correctly as incorrect (e.g. programme with 2 ms is the correct spelling ..just saying
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Dryphuz
10 years ago
Scientifically, a study of 3 people satisfies the burden of the scientific method. I do tend to get annoyed at grammatical nonsense as i am articulate and very careful and specific in that what i say is grammatically what i mean. While i know it tends to annoy, i keep correcting people in the hope one day they will lift to my standard.
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RHP User
10 years ago
this morning I helped my uncle jack off his horse...
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RHP User
10 years ago
I is a big jerk then! LOL Pusscat xxx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' a study of 83 people.....is ...a very small study :) But I find it highly interesting that the author uses the term "social judgement" - this is a very fitting term to describe what is nothing more than one's SUBJECTIVE opinion agreed by others...judgement????? BS there is no SOCIAL JUDGEMENT...only the law can judge a person or their behaviour...everything else is an opinion...it would be high time people stop SOCIAL JUDGING others... btw RHP could do with a spell check programme update - it keeps underlying words that are spelt correctly as incorrect (e.g. programme with 2 ms is the correct spelling ..just saying RHP isn't exclusively Australia is it? Maybe it is, but program is the American spelling as far as I'm aware. For spellcheck to spell as programme, it would have to be Australia specific. The thing with the internet though, is we're always either talking to people in other countries or googling/referencing websites which originate in other countries, but being read all over the world. Being global, I can't see a country specific spell check ever working. Also, not only the law can judge. A judgement is a decision or assessment/opinion you form in your mind, the word is used not exclusively in the legal world. Not sure if this is technically correct but quite often our slang crosses over, making it difficult to follow. And in saying that, have I become a grammar nazi? lol I hope not
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'cavey50' this morning I helped my uncle jack off his horse... Can't the horse do it himself?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Is it wrong to judge or form an assessment of someone when looking at a few factors together? Or is that human nature? So the grammar mistakes might be one thing, but on here, another might be grotty pictures with or without dirty house or bathroom, another might be underlying meanings in messages, the sound of their voice, their baggage or personal shit? I even judged one guy on his clothes, the strangest thing, still like him, but thought his clothes 'odd' haha but the point I'm trying to make is that on it's own, poor grammar doesn't worry me, combined with other elements, different story, and that's just being honest. Same as everything in life, we're only human at the end of the day. Awareness does help though
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MasterBilly
10 years ago
grammar Nazis
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RHP User
10 years ago
I find most grammar nerds boring and high maintainence. Makes sense if you don't have a grammar hang up you're much nicer to be around. No way would I knock back a glamour with a personality just because she couldn't string a few words together. On the other hand , if the same glamour started scolding someone because their grammar wasn't up to scratch. Boring ? next please.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I was totally unware that the OP of any thread on this site actually 'owned' it... most of us are glad they don't and perhaps one of the many reasons more don't speak up. Enjoy 'your tread'... may God in his/her infinite mercy forgive us for going off topic.
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RHP User
10 years ago
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' . And in saying that, have I become a grammar nazi? lol I hope not only kidding :) :) btw if we are talking about language...what on earth has happened to the possessive verb "have"???? Hardly anyone says " I haven't got"...everyone says and writes "I don't have'....
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RHP User
10 years ago
I fall into grammar nazi! The way we communicate via text etc, spell check is available. I don't make judgements about people if they make mistakes but I hate lazy messaging and I am a snob in regards to any messages on here that are lazy! So if you ask 'how r u?' I'll ignore you! Mary xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'MidnightCruisin' I was totally unware that the OP of any thread on this site actually 'owned' it... most of us are glad they don't and perhaps one of the many reasons more don't speak up. Enjoy 'your tread'... may God in his/her infinite mercy forgive us for going off topic. Cruisin', so, I am stupid then :-D. Thanks for pointing out my typo, I love the irony under the circumstances. Other than that, I wanted to raise a topic in particular and have it discussed, not turned into a laugh fest about nothing, or a bash at people whose grammar or spelling isn't the best, there are plenty of other threads about both of those already. I went along for many posts before I tried to steer it back on topic. Anyway if you don't like how I play, please free to tread along to a thread where your sensibilities aren't threatened by the trend of discussing the OP at hand. :-Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Stirry'Well peachy... I thought I had.....referenced the op that is by asking if it were a continuation of the anal fisting thread. I asked this because I kinda equate chastising people in a negative way about their spelling/grammar like copping a fist up the arse..... Or am I using a poor analogy on that one?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile Cheers Sir, I can assure you what you meant was not at all clear to me, I thought it might have had to do with my post that referenced that thread. So took it as a fair call. And I did not mean to single you out Deep, it was the timing in the middle of me trying to return the focus to my OP. I did mean to approach with some humour. TGIF... Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' . And in saying that, have I become a grammar nazi? lol I hope not only kidding :) :) btw if we are talking about language...what on earth has happened to the possessive verb "have"???? Hardly anyone says " I haven't got"...everyone says and writes "I don't have'.... I don't have, is the correct way to say/write it. 'Got' was never considered good or proper English (I think ), however I just happen to love the word 'got'. I do find myself worrying about what others will think when I use it though lol
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1'Only Stupid people equate the lack of correct selling and grammar with a lack of intelligence. Illiteracy affects around 50 per cent of adults in Australia. The shame that people feel can be overwhelming. I support young people who have a learning disability,they are often accused of being lazy or stupid,it's a struggle for them to even come to school let alone feel confident in their ability to learn. So the next time you mock someone or get annoyed with their inability to spell correctly,think on this,you are fortunate that you are not dyslexic, or have another kind of learning disability..lucky you. Q Thank you. It is such a sad thing. I'd like to add to the possible illiteracy list, Forgotten Australians. People who were in 'care' who often did not receive any sort of education. Not stupid people, but poorly educated. Knowing a fair few of those people affected, do not let be your judgement be based on their literacy alone. Peachy :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am loving your approach County62. Really, yum. I'll have me one o' them. I'm bummed Summer, I canna see what that little square at the end of your sentence is on the laptop. I'll have to check it out on the mobile later. And that is beautiful too Pepper, translating heart into words is not the easiest skill ever. Thank you. Cruisin', I'm going to handball this to you because I took conscientious as it is but suspect it is actually meant to be conscious. Lol SYDnobarbie, it is a small group study. :-D have you ever noticed that vilifies is spelt with 2 Ls in the info box just above the comments box? There have been threads based on it, lol. :-) Lol Dryphuz, thanks for the tip on the number needed for a scientific study. ;-) Cavey, your uncle jack is one of those tools we carry around in our boot? I've never heard it called that before. 0:-) Pusscat... yes, but you're very good at it. :-P x I haven't finished, but will post this for now so I don''t lose it by accident. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Hardly anyone says " I haven't got"...everyone says and writes "I don't have'.... I don't understand the difference (probably because I learned English at a later age), so do tell! Have is the possessive verb...so when one possesses something then the grammatically correct phrase is "I have got a cat". When one does not possess something then the sentence should be " I have not got a cat" or "I haven't got a cat" 'do' is an auxiliary a verb is used to refer back to a verb already used e.g " I did not know that " in this case Did is the past tense of do...however DO is not a replacement for a possessive verb...so saying "I don't have" is incorrect - as "do not" in this case is does not refer back to any other verb... YET nowadays - in the last 3-4years- it has been common to use "Don't have" instead of "haven't got' the lack of possession...just a sign of how the language is changing and not necessarly logically - see my examples. If "I have got a cat" is "good English" then the negative of that should be "I haven't got a cat" yet people say " I don't have a cat" You would say "I do have a cat" if you wanted to emphasize that you DO HAVE a cat - you are emphasizing the verb instead of the possession itself...so saying "I do not have a cat" means (as per old rules) that one is "protesting" against the idea of owing a cat..it is not as simple as stating "I haven't got a cat" for whatever reason (e.g. I hate cats) yet nowadays everyone is "I DO NOT HAVE"....
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madotara69
10 years ago
Those 83 participants were the 83 that did the thing and that's a thing indeed. Mado Mado Tara xx
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Quoting 'Summersolstice' Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Hardly anyone says " I haven't got"...everyone says and writes "I don't have'.... I don't understand the difference (probably because I learned English at a later age), so do tell! Have is the possessive verb...so when one possesses something then the grammatically correct phrase is "I have got a cat". When one does not possess something then the sentence should be " I have not got a cat" or "I haven't got a cat" 'do' is an auxiliary a verb is used to refer back to a verb already used e.g " I did not know that " in this case Did is the past tense of do...however DO is not a replacement for a possessive verb...so saying "I don't have" is incorrect - as "do not" in this case is does not refer back to any other verb... YET nowadays - in the last 3-4years- it has been common to use "Don't have" instead of "haven't got' the lack of possession...just a sign of how the language is changing and not necessarly logically - see my examples. If "I have got a cat" is "good English" then the negative of that should be "I haven't got a cat" yet people say " I don't have a cat" You would say "I do have a cat" if you wanted to emphasize that you DO HAVE a cat - you are emphasizing the verb instead of the possession itself...so saying "I do not have a cat" means (as per old rules) that one is "protesting" against the idea of owing a cat..it is not as simple as stating "I haven't got a cat" for whatever reason (e.g. I hate cats) yet nowadays everyone is "I DO NOT HAVE".... There was no word as there was no such thing as possession, no such thing as taken, given,lent or sold, no such things with ownership and mother nature provided all as long care is in the balance even at sustain with who and where able, the spirits in the lands, the trees, the waters, the animals, the wind and storms and of the ancestors the meaning of the words, dreamtime and the smoking ceremony spoken of the didgeridoo and story time, some painted in the caves about the lands, walkabout the journey in and learning the meanings one must learn. Hardly worth a bother if it all get's spelt away with words that own and take and pay and claim then needs to be correct, contracts in business and the only word that matters is one by one the insurance paid, then the gramma, the spelling so correct is as the worth and safety in each and everything a cost and cost and cost and cost and cost, last our final words, "don't pay the ferryman till he get's you to the other side" But Stirry has that covered in the gravestone thread, rather timely and probably tapped in and spiritually guided, one of mother natures special kind there is no word, just got to feel the presence.MadoMado Tara xx
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Andremmo
10 years ago
SYDnobarbie and Summer Without going into the grammar rules, subtle changes to words in sentences do make a difference when you compare each variant. Taking your earlier example (in the easier affirmative construction), IMO all these following phrases are essentially the same and each is grammatically correct. But the devil is in the detail..."I have a cat" - meaning I have one and I possibly have had it for a long time"I got a cat" - meaning I have one now but at some time in the more recent past I didn't have one"I have got a cat" - I am reinforcing the fact that I have one (and possibly in response to someone telling me I don't have one) without indicating any time factor in how long I have had one."I have gotten a cat" - I recently acquired one (possibly in response to a need to deal with a mouse problem) The subtleties of the words used in each sentence are generally not perceived when each phrase is used in isolation but when you are asked to compare them against each other, those nuances will become more apparent. I haven't noticed a recent trend to avoid "haven't got" in favour of "don't have" but I do think that the language would be poorer if these subtle differences in the use of language remove the ability to include nuance.
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Andremmo
10 years ago
Without reading the actual research, I consider the article to be a pithy space-filler rather than an analysis of ground-breaking research. Lets consider how "agreeableness" is measured. The article implies that someone is considered 'agreeable' if they are a nice person. The question is then, who judges this and is it scientifically reproducible? Is it the opinion of a large group who know the person really well? If the 'large group' is 10 people, did they know all 83 people surveyed or did each participant need a different group of niceness assessors.Actually, it appears that someone's agreeableness is measured by asking the opinion of the actual person. It appears they have to complete a psychological test that scores their answers on a scale of Strongly agree to Strongly disagree. So if I was a psychologist scoring their answers I would say that someone is agreeable if they always answer Strongly agree regardless of what the question is. Or perhaps you are agreeable if you answer strongly disagree to "I see myself as someone who is sometimes rude to others" but self-assess as strongly agree to "I see myself as someone who is outgoing and sociable". I don't know how the psychologists really score the self-assessment questions to arrive at an agreeable rating but IMO the score is not going to match how many people think they are a jerk. Those kinds of assessments need to be made by peers since we are talking about measuring how OTHER people perceive them. I think the research is saying that people who assess themselves as less tolerant of mistakes in general are less tolerant when reading written communications which contain mistakes. WOW Do some people notice mistakes in written communication? Yes, but not all people doDo they form opinions on the author when noticing mistakes? Yes, and they also form opinions from the content tooIs the reader a jerk if they NOTICE mistakes in written communication? No, they are demonstrating that they are paying attention and they know enough about the language to spot unintended mistakesIs the reader a jerk if they notice mistakes in written communication which then negatively influences their perception of the author? No, this is human nature Which brings us ultimately to...Is the reader a jerk if they point out mistakes in written communication? Not necessarily. But you will certainly be judged by others as a jerk if:- you correct the author in a nasty way- you point out a mistake that was likely to be a result of rushing- you point out a mistake without educating the author on why it was wrong- you correct errors made by authors who don't take criticism well- you correct errors make by authors whom others feel should not be criticised. It is possible to provide useful feedback by educating an author where they are making repeated errors that lessen how (some) others perceive them. But ultimately, because of the comprehensive list above, it will most often rebound on you.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Typical thread... maybe I should start another thread for the jerks who just cannot help going on about how we should be speaking or writing. *rolls eyes* I honestly feel a bit like I've wandered into a Reader's Digest article that I skim and think, meah. You do know meah is the original spelling of meh? It's mentioned a couple of times in the forum. I actually have more of an admiration for people who have the ability to comprehend the point they are responding to. Comprehension being a large part of English lessons when I went to school. We all know what Uncle Jack was up to with the horse, right? Unless we're stupid. Also, I was taught to use the language around any part you don't understand to clarify the meaning. Mado, thank you for the beautiful spirit I feel in your post, I always loved poetry for the freedom it offered beyond the standard strictures of grammar. Music too. And yes, the language of the contract and the law. pfft. Give me a man's word as his bond. Oh yes, lol Summer, I love emoticons, they're a whole language unto themselves. And there's no arguing about the right way to use them. ;-) Peachy, feeling a bit jerky... you can consider the hard to chew type if you like.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Mutually exclusive me thinks..,different sides of the brain probably dontcha think? Grammar doesn't abscond with luscious words,like poetry does ,it tries to make them conform comply.,fit into a strictured ,structure. Poetry is unfettered by rules thanks to Mr Whitman. English is an ever evolving language,you can be a moribund,antediluvian,snob about it,or you can throw the rule book away lol now in the Oxford Dictionary. Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am impressed, thank you, and I apologise deeply. I passed over your post and did not give it due process. I shall look forward to following up on posts tomorrow that I have not today, including yours of course. I am going to need full concentration to give proper consideration to those few posts I have not followed up on yet. Peachy
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' Mutually exclusive me thinks..,different sides of the brain probably dontcha think? Grammar doesn't abscond with luscious words,like poetry does ,it tries to make them conform comply.,fit into a strictured ,structure. Poetry is unfettered by rules thanks to Mr Whitman. English is an ever evolving language,you can be a moribund,antediluvian,snob about it,or you can throw the rule book away lol now in the Oxford Dictionary. Q Our right side of the body acts off the left side of the brain and left for right, if I cross my legs or you or any, then both sides of our brain work together, it's true I do believe and we can learn, think, wonder, all things that benefit the other half's active functions during the crossover :)
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' That little flutter, 'do tell', so I'm of a feeling that was chick stuff in code or straight out 'come on' ready and waiting !!! Then SYDnobarbie seduced me with the nature in and it is all in the delivery, knowledge and given.. keep it simple and cared to that most while telling it as it is to be, as to where become, wrong perhaps I'm sure, she did not bag me or talk down, insist nor gloat bathing in her self as better, just I found it so sexy and Tara thanks and hugs and kisses and she even had her moment, the hints and little wish for wants, keep it simple....I put that hook up on our ceiling above the bed and with the settings of the sex swing Safe, I used coach bolts, good knots and hung off even jumped off myself and no way was the slightest chance a fail, so I hung her upside down and "do me" I did, we did it and she liked it 'bucket list" a biggy with the thrill and fantasy and where ever it is that place she goes, off with the fairies, bonkers, no control of motor skills, energetic and more so the animalistic passion sort of thing, not making love, don't even think I was there, I wasn't, she was in altered state of mind, in self , most of her body even emotions shut down for the energy her brain uses, a maternal and most beautiful wonder mother nature designed. But when there is a want to learn, words have wings and if SYDnobarbie made it so that something as complicated and only a pimple on the elephants bum, a snippet, couple of words and are meant each way so different when proper, Then I would be tickled pink if this gooblygoop of unfiltered words, start with one then all else follows, 'just get them down and edit later, as these don't be reckoned with by the sub conscious and most socially adapted as best understood, right or wrong, straight flowing from way deep in here, the place I like to chill out, my conscious and can dream, the words are just there as the typewriter makes them delivered. I think it is worth while and enjoy telling words perhaps dreamtime story, because I am a dreamer, and with a passion have spent most of the past years learning and dreaming and all as important, a work in progress as Tara teaches me how it feels to her as we explore the many pleasures her body each and every little sensation a memory and it has been said, our conscious remembers every step we have taken, all moments, seen touch and smell, felt and all feelings, emotions, every word ever spoken, first and most usual 'no' , but I said yes and 21 years later, I used it to serve a purpose and as an answer that would take care of all else forever and in love, "Tara would it be alright if I could kiss you" and she said yes and to now tells me that was the moment she fell in love and every choice she has made since has been hers to make, some I may have chose different, but of no matter as for or against any of mine, we learn and learnt together as friends eye to eye, but hers are beautiful and sparkle when smiling and something no words can explain when her eyes show passion, the two simple most things all decisions centred and mostly easy to make, second nature then cruising in this lifetime of joy in keeping it simple. Somewhere in amongst all down and a new found meaning and in respects conscious is honest, I would enjoy the edited story if it is a fun thing to do however if chosen it is yours. If not then just some words that came of thought and in reply with the cool chicks, women, sexy and Ok with Peachy:)Or I can delete it if you think I'm a froot loop
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RHP User
10 years ago
This afternoon I read an article in The Spectator (19March2016) by Rod Liddle titled "Why Joan Bakewell must be right about anorexia", and considered how it relates to this thread topic.I think these sorts of debates are emblematic of broader phenomena. Copyright precludes reproduction of the article here. I'd borrowed a hardcopy from the library. It's not behind a pay wall on the net if anyone's interested to take a look. (You can Go ogle at your leisure). Am interested to hear others' views...(Whilst at the same issue of The Spectator, you might take a look at "Ancient and Modern; Safe space in ancient Athens" by Peter Jones.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I have a cat ? I have not a pussy ? Some have a pussy and a cat and a pussycat .? Do tell ? Look that up in your Funk and Wagner
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RHP User
10 years ago
I could barely post the above post because it was in a small font and my concussion is ain't helping today...but I noticed that I was mentioned what did I do? is it popcorn time?
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RHP User
10 years ago
there is no such thing "is ain't helping".... I go and stand in the corner
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am a champion of the distinctive voice ,a general looseness with rules and regulations.....The English language is gloriously dynamic, resilient...Give me a stray paragraph from Cormac McCarthy or Emma McBride and I can tell you it's theirs from the distinctive rhythm of their prose and the audacity of their rule breaking. That may well mean grammar that slips away from the norm,but so be it,and their prose is all the richer for it. The Australian magazine 9/4/2016 Q
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' I could barely post the above post because it was in a small font and my concussion is ain't helping today...but I noticed that I was mentioned what did I do? is it popcorn time? I'm one of those people who mostly everyone would tell me what I had written, too out there and 'incomprehensible' the word covering the gist of each manner served speaking, an 'lol' or 'what are you on!' or 'can never understand your posts'. I liked it because the one word in the post that if the meanings of it were searched, meant the flick of sand was flung back at them, foot in mouth, because the word was not known and they must have been pretending they knew their shit. So often it would be some fancy pants announcement' look at me, look at me with the intellectual capacity of a toasted muffin and this covered most of those,... "unkind words and thoughtless snubs are but the echoes of a small and frightened person" A glass of lemon water and a teaspoon of Manuka honey each day will help, soon a Bowen Therapy appointment once you feel well, will clear out the toxins and brand new fizzing and feeling sexy as, then go stand in the corner all mischievous of the likes, even hang upside down, or at best think about it and leather
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' Is it wrong to judge or form an assessment of someone when looking at a few factors together? Or is that human nature? So the grammar mistakes might be one thing, but on here, another might be grotty pictures with or without dirty house or bathroom, another might be underlying meanings in messages, the sound of their voice, their baggage or personal shit? I even judged one guy on his clothes, the strangest thing, still like him, but thought his clothes 'odd' haha but the point I'm trying to make is that on it's own, poor grammar doesn't worry me, combined with other elements, different story, and that's just being honest. Same as everything in life, we're only human at the end of the day. Awareness does help though This is a very wise approach to the site, and life if you ask me I_touch. I liked that you thought to bring up the different languages for spell check too. Hi Mr Urn, thanks for the well thought out and presented posts. Haha, my daughter hates it when I correct her speaking. I'm getting better every day. :-D Honestly, I think RHP is pretty good about not correcting grammar at the moment, let alone having any actual 'jerks. Peachy ;-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Andremmo, that is a very comprehensive post, thank you. I think, lol. I found the original study which seems quite thorough from what I can understand. There is of course a blind group. And Jerk has nothing to do with the study, I'm not sure where that came into it except that it features in a large proportion of the 24 times the study has been covered by news media and blogs. One of the other headings which might be more agreeable is, "If Typos Make Your Teeth Hurt, You Might Just Be an Introvert". They did start with some expectations but were surprised at some of the outcomes. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1'Poetry and grammar are Mutually exclusive me thinks..,different sides of the brain probably dontcha think? Grammar doesn't abscond with luscious words,like poetry does ,it tries to make them conform comply.,fit into a strictured ,structure. Poetry is unfettered by rules thanks to Mr Whitman. English is an ever evolving language,you can be a moribund,antediluvian,snob about it,or you can throw the rule book away lol now in the Oxford Dictionary. Q I think you're absolutely right Q. I used to be more of an arse about grammar and spelling in the past but that was something of a relief to let go of! I've learnt so much better. And I think I have more love for words than being precise about how I put them together sometimes. My favourite ever thread was the Two Word thread where the only rule was to change one of the two words, that can be a lot funnier than might be imagined. Peachy xo
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1'Nikki Gemmell I am a champion of the distinctive voice ,a general looseness with rules and regulations.....The English language is gloriously dynamic, resilient...Give me a stray paragraph from Cormac McCarthy or Emma McBride and I can tell you it's theirs from the distinctive rhythm of their prose and the audacity of their rule breaking. That may well mean grammar that slips away from the norm,but so be it,and their prose is all the richer for it. The Australian magazine 9/4/2016 Q Thank you again Q, what a find... and timely. Hugs, Peachy xo
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RHP User
10 years ago
FYI, I had drafted the above in MS Word (Font size 11), then later copied and pasted into the thread... (Was not being loud or yelling!)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Uxorious Mado of Joycian persuasion , I would recognise his writing anywhere ..Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ontology' FYI, I had drafted the above in MS Word (Font size 11), then later copied and pasted into the thread... (Was not being loud or yelling!) I didn't think so. Thank yooou. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
From Cambridge University: Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!
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RHP User
10 years ago
don't know what happened to the spacing there Try this, I'm putting these in to illustrate how the human brain can work or how complicated it can be, these are only a few examples, I've seen another one where you watch a lady spinning around. They then ask in what direction you saw her spinning, left or right, or both? I can't put that on here, but they then say that if you saw her spinning right, the right side of your brain is working, left, the left side, both and you have an IQ of 160 or better. Interesting isn't it? and the next one below, well look and see. Don't scroll down until you've followed what they ask you to do, and the spacing here might make a mess of the text. If it does, sorry in advance but don't read all the way to the bottom until you've done as they ask at the top Alzheimers' Eye Test Count every ' F ' in the following text: FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITHTHE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... (SEE BELOW) HOW MANY ? WRONG, THERE ARE 6 - No jokeRead it again. Really, go back and try to find the 6 F's before you scroll down The reasoning behind it, is the brain cannot process 'OF' Incredible or what? Go back and look again!! Anyone who counts all 6 'F's' on the first go is a genius Three is normal, four is quite rare
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RHP User
10 years ago
just in case this was in doubt, I'm not a genius I counted 3
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RHP User
10 years ago
probably not really on topic Peachy but I found these, they were emailed to me years ago. I randomly found them tonight and just think they're enlightening. Just the same as one side of the brain being used for directions, that kind of thing, doesn't make the person any less intelligent, quite the contrary. I've said before on the forum I've known a few people in my life, highly intelligent, but hopeless with directions, get lost, forget the path they took to come back. And until you meet someone like this, you don't really understand it, and how it has nothing to do with intelligence or IQ
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RHP User
10 years ago
Lol Mr Urn, sometimes it is tricky to get the cursor outside the 'box' of the reply with quote. You did better than me who got 3, same as I_touch. ;-) I agree with Mr Urn I_touch, I've seen other examples of that sort of thing, including using numbers to replace letters. Yours are both great examples and I love how they were timely to this thread. The world and the mind are wonderful things with so much we have yet to understand. A bit like the English language, hehe. Thanks for the tip Summer, I tried approaching it as a puzzle where I'm supposed to see letters individually but that didn't work. How did you do with the jumbled letters? I've never seen anyone who couldn't understand those sorts of things. And did it bother you, them being all scrambled like that? :-) Now this thread: the article says nothing about pointing out mistakes, constantly or otherwise, that I can see. My little bit of later study found that the heading of the article had nothing to do with the study. It's a little further back in the thread in the heading of one of my posts, if you'd like to take a look as well as some info about the sharing of the study be media. The heading of this article and most of the 24 shares that I saw on the study page... is a judgement made by a large percentage of people who shared the study. Jerks ;-) Yay to Sunday peace... Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Amen to that, and thank you, and reading it backwards, who would have thought? I also tried going through it slowly but still only counted 3, didn't think about reading it backwards. Interesting that when I'm adding or calculating numbers, more so when there are a lot, I always go from start to finish, then reverse and do it back the other way but that's with numbers. Thanks for the heads up Summer If I ever get a test like that thrown at me, I'll have it covered
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Quoting 'Summersolstice' Quoting 'SYDnobarbie' Hardly anyone says " I haven't got"...everyone says and writes "I don't have'.... I don't understand the difference (probably because I learned English at a later age), so do tell! Have is the possessive verb...so when one possesses something then the grammatically correct phrase is "I have got a cat". When one does not possess something then the sentence should be " I have not got a cat" or "I haven't got a cat" 'do' is an auxiliary a verb is used to refer back to a verb already used e.g " I did not know that " in this case Did is the past tense of do...however DO is not a replacement for a possessive verb...so saying "I don't have" is incorrect - as "do not" in this case is does not refer back to any other verb... YET nowadays - in the last 3-4years- it has been common to use "Don't have" instead of "haven't got' the lack of possession...just a sign of how the language is changing and not necessarly logically - see my examples. If "I have got a cat" is "good English" then the negative of that should be "I haven't got a cat" yet people say " I don't have a cat" You would say "I do have a cat" if you wanted to emphasize that you DO HAVE a cat - you are emphasizing the verb instead of the possession itself...so saying "I do not have a cat" means (as per old rules) that one is "protesting" against the idea of owing a cat..it is not as simple as stating "I haven't got a cat" for whatever reason (e.g. I hate cats) yet nowadays everyone is "I DO NOT HAVE".... I don't have any recollection of being taught this in school. *runs and hides... Hehehe! ;)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' HOW MANY ? WRONG, THERE ARE 6 - No jokeRead it again. Really, go back and try to find the 6 F's before you scroll down The reasoning behind it, is the brain cannot process 'OF' Incredible or what? Go back and look again!! Anyone who counts all 6 'F's' on the first go is a genius Three is normal, four is quite rare Seriously? I counted six F's!
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RHP User
10 years ago
In my childhood years, I spend many a day with my nose deep in one of Enid Blyton's novels. Those days have attained an almost magical quality for me. In Primary School, my annual goal that I set for myself was to attain the #1 position in English in my class and my year. For five years, I was constantly beaten by the same classmate and had to contend with #2 until the final year in Primary School where I FINALLY attained #1 in my school. I love the English language with a vengeance. My fascination for it has never ceased. Q and SydnoBarbie, you are both dynamites and there is much I can learn from both of you. :) What I know is just the tip of the iceberg compared to the knowledge that both of you have demonstrated! I am truly in awe! All said, why can't we embrace the diversity in personalities? We all have different things to contribute to society, and we all have different skills sets, traits, inclinations, talents and gifts. Some of us love to make sure that we dot our I's and cross our T's and this conscientiousness is very precious in jobs that require precision and attention to detail. Society cannot function optimally if no one is a grammar nazi and spelling bee! All our fingers and toes are of different lengths, but we need them all! The non-grammar nazi's and spelling bee's should appreciate those who are. And the grammar nazi's and spelling bee's should appreciate those who aren't. My friends tap into my knowledge and skills by asking me to help edit their reports / cover letters / resumes and I tap into their expertise and talents in other ways. People who show excellence in what they do is a trait that ought to be respected, not trashed. This demonstrates pride in what they are doing, the diligence and perseverance that had been invested into the area, and a desire to be excellent in their field / interest. Instead of feeling uneasy because someone else is better than us, tap into their expertise and use it as an opportunity to improve oneself. I love surrounding myself with nerdy experts because there's always someone to go to for advice or to bounce off my crazy ideas. I'm just offering an alternative perspective on this matter. ;)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I wondered because I've never come across anyone who can't read it or similar. And interestingly, I don't approach the scrambled letters as a puzzle because I scan it as I would usually and only go back if there is anything I didn't understand. This one was a bit tricky because of the formatting for me. It's interesting how different minds work. Cheers, Peachy
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'PurePeony' In my childhood years, I spend many a day with my nose deep in one of Enid Blyton's novels. Those days have attained an almost magical quality for me. In Primary School, my annual goal that I set for myself was to attain the #1 position in English in my class and my year. For five years, I was constantly beaten by the same classmate and had to contend with #2 until the final year in Primary School where I FINALLY attained #1 in my school. I love the English language with a vengeance. My fascination for it has never ceased. Q and SydnoBarbie, you are both dynamites and there is much I can learn from both of you. :) What I know is just the tip of the iceberg compared to the knowledge that both of you have demonstrated! I am truly in awe! All said, why can't we embrace the diversity in personalities? We all have different things to contribute to society, and we all have different skills sets, traits, inclinations, talents and gifts. Some of us love to make sure that we dot our I's and cross our T's and this conscientiousness is very precious in jobs that require precision and attention to detail. Society cannot function optimally if no one is a grammar nazi and spelling bee! All our fingers and toes are of different lengths, but we need them all! The non-grammar nazi's and spelling bee's should appreciate those who are. And the grammar nazi's and spelling bee's should appreciate those who aren't. My friends tap into my knowledge and skills by asking me to help edit their reports / cover letters / resumes and I tap into their expertise and talents in other ways. People who show excellence in what they do is a trait that ought to be respected, not trashed. This demonstrates pride in what they are doing, the diligence and perseverance that had been invested into the area, and a desire to be excellent in their field / interest. Instead of feeling uneasy because someone else is better than us, tap into their expertise and use it as an opportunity to improve oneself. I love surrounding myself with nerdy experts because there's always someone to go to for advice or to bounce off my crazy ideas. I'm just offering an alternative perspective on this matter. ;) Yes sure, too and as well, when writing feelings and words for love, sometimes I just have to make up words that feel right in the moment as with in mind dynamics, get her all flustered, tingly sensations, flowing.......Tap into that 'Water of love' a word that belongs to her, enjoy. The wrong thing for all the right reasons, I suppose I'm uneditable.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Have Servant of a Cat on my resume
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'PurePeony' Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' HOW MANY ? WRONG, THERE ARE 6 - No jokeRead it again. Really, go back and try to find the 6 F's before you scroll down The reasoning behind it, is the brain cannot process 'OF' Incredible or what? Go back and look again!! Anyone who counts all 6 'F's' on the first go is a genius Three is normal, four is quite rare Seriously? I counted six F's! One word.........Mensa
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RHP User
10 years ago
"Grammar snobs are patronising, pretentious and just plain wrong" "Why is it that some people feel proud to be called grammar snobs? Mona Chalabi argues that those who correct others’ language are clinging to conventions that are unimportant. She says grammar snobbery is often used to silence those who have less of a voice in society" I've definitely seen peoples opinions in RHP being shot down because of the way they have expressed themselves in text. I think that is very small-minded. Ideas, thoughts, insights, etc., are so much more than having the right wrapping. I'd be curious to know about those who believe grammar is a sign of intelligence, and what their understanding of what intelligence is, and the different facets that intelligence encompasses. Grammar is a conventional, traditional set of rules for language. I'm just not sure that would be a big area of intelligence - maybe a small part of crystalised intelligence? I don't remember even seeing much grammar in the big intelligence tests. I wonder if Mensa tests grammar in their test.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' But Mensa measures IQ, which I think differs from intelligence. I used to believe spelling and grammar were related to intelligence, as I was raised that way (thanks, dad). I have learned I was completely wrong though, and the very smart Tuscan and Freya have played a part in that. :-) where did I say that grammar is the same as intelligence? my comment to PP was light hearted and friendly. Mensa the wrong word? Maybe, but your comment has a slight hint of grammar nazi to me. Isn't that the very reason we're here discussing this? Sorry but I'm sure people would have known the context I wrote that in. I've also been very clear with my opinion that grammar and intelligence aren't one and the same and don't see the need to explain that again. If you read back through the thread for my comments on that, might enlighten you some, thanks
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RHP User
10 years ago
So apparently the F's test has been highlighted as an 'IQ' test. Forgive my mistake posting it on this topic thread, with a special mention for Summer, thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate your attention to detail
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'PepperRose' "Grammar snobs are patronising, pretentious and just plain wrong" "Why is it that some people feel proud to be called grammar snobs? Mona Chalabi argues that those who correct others’ language are clinging to conventions that are unimportant. She says grammar snobbery is often used to silence those who have less of a voice in society" I've definitely seen peoples opinions in RHP being shot down because of the way they have expressed themselves in text. I think that is very small-minded. Ideas, thoughts, insights, etc., are so much more than having the right wrapping. I'd be curious to know about those who believe grammar is a sign of intelligence, and what their understanding of what intelligence is, and the different facets that intelligence encompasses. Grammar is a conventional, traditional set of rules for language. I'm just not sure that would be a big area of intelligence - maybe a small part of crystalised intelligence? I don't remember even seeing much grammar in the big intelligence tests. I wonder if Mensa tests grammar in their test. patronising, yes shits me to tears and the exactly the way they make you feel. Great post
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RHP User
10 years ago
That on Tuesday four of the students I support who have learning disabilities all independently completed two assignments...Their spelling was crap but who cares ,they really made a super effort because they believed they could... If kids walk into a classroom believing that they can't learn,they won't . PP you and I were so fortunate that we were encouraged to read,given books and or comics to read when we were very young.Children who are read to when very young have a head start. Many children are reluctant readers because they don't enjoy what is so hard for them to do There is a publisher now who is publishing using a font that is more accessible for kids who have dyslexia,I hope more publishers do this. Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am complete crap at them,I am very average. But social and emotional IQ tests I do really well in. My maths neurons were well and truly pruned years ago unfortunately and algebra gives me a complete headache ,makes me anxious. There are so many things I can't do,but I think understanding why kids have barriers to learning is one I do well Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Peony, Enid Blyton has a special place in my memories as well as comics as mentioned by Freya. They were my escape from the world. I absolutely respect dotters and crossers and their place in our society. Thanks for sharing that quote PepperRose. In answer to your question... Google, my ever educative ally found a meme for me from Pininterest that says... Language fluency isn’t a sign of intellect, because no language is universal. But math is a universal concept. This is why IQ tests such as Mensa, are math based, not language based. So stop picking on spelling and grammar mistakes! I_touch, your posts were perfect for this thread, they gave great insight into how our minds can work. and Q, confidence has to be one of the best things we can give. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
..."his" side, "her" side, and the truth. Let's remember the purpose for the rules of grammar is to help facilitate effective communication. Given how much conflict between people may be attributed to miscommunication, I cannot help but think proper use of grammar is indeed important and something people ought strive to understand and actually employ in their communications. Naturally, the alternative is miscommunication; the opportunity cost of which can be enormous. Consider the amount of time wasting argument on issues which may bear little actual significance/relevance, all the way up to full scale violence between opposing factions. Human society would be all the poorer both materially and culturally were it not for the clear and effective communication of thoughts and ideas. It is no coincidence that poorly educated people, or people with poor communication skills (not necessarily one and the same) typically find themselves locked into positions of socio-economic disadvantage, and this is a point that holds true at both personal and national levels. Hence the vital importance of all kids being encouraged to gain a proper education. I believe attainment of a proper education will sometimes necessitate pushing kids to work harder to meet required standards. I'm quite sure there are some kids who suffer genuine health/psychological conditions impacting their capacity to learn, however I am skeptical about the actual extent of the problem. I strongly suspect there are some people who are copping out with claims of learning difficulties where their difficulties might be more simply and accurately characterised as disciplinary in nature. Like I said before: There are three sides to every story.... Invariably, the Truth lies somewhere in the middle.
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RHP User
10 years ago
You are right.People who have poor literacy and numeracy skills are at severe disadvantage when it comes to work choices. Nearly 50 per cent of Australian adults fall into this catergory,the education system is seriously failing them. Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit. Yep, I'm a card-carrying pedant, but really, I can't help it!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'LittleMsBusty' Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit. Yep, I'm a card-carrying pedant, but really, I can't help it! That right there, that one sentence, perfectly encapsulates what is being discussed in this topic. And something else I took from it, is the 'knowing you're shit' might well be the person delivering the critisism/grammar nazi or the person on the receiving end of it. Because who's really shit at the end of the day, the person who's being made to feel like shit, or the person making them feel like shit just food for thought, or my thoughts. Thank you for contributing this. I think those few words say so much
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RHP User
10 years ago
You don't read a lot of what I write? lol 😜 yes empathy is far more important. It just needs to be displayed, not talked about, bit like respect really. So i'm interested to know, and no disrespect intended with this question, why if as you say you'd rather be seen for your empathy than brain smarts, then why come onto a public forum and say you attended mensa? Just curious, one statement seemed to contradict the other. Forgive me if I've misread what you said. I've been having trouble translating posts lately, maybe i need to go and get that checked out. Don't know if there's an existing condition or a name they give to that 😊 thank you so much for your comments. Cheers, have a great day 👍😃
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'll be back in a bit after enjoying Sunday, I'll be grabbing a beer and sitting out the back with the pets for a bit. Listening, and watching when I get the chance, to the top 200 guilty pleasures on Fox... Music is a language in it's own right. Hope you're all enjoying your day. Peachy xox
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RHP User
10 years ago
Summer... I could go look for it but I saw a post of yours over the weekend that I thought would be perfect here. I hoped you would share it because from the quick google I did on it, it tied in into mentioning grammar on a thread and killing it? And something about introducing a point for people to argue against. ? I touch, en pointe with your 'yes' post I thought. I do love irony. brb... :-Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Of Shakespere's death today. ...He invented over 1700 words ,his poems and plays make him immortal Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
The 400th anniversary... Impressive and timely. And My bad, I called you by 2 different names in one post earlier. Ontology, Q has taken a very good point from your post. I think you are missing the point of the thread though. It is more about the attitude of people who look down on other people because of their poor phrasing whether that be via spelling or grammar, and/or questioning that those other people could do better if they tried harder. Summer, I lost count of the IQ tests I had in the years before I turned 15 to find out what was wrong with me. It was nothing that a good dose of empathy wouldn't have fixed. I touch, I'm sorry I did not explain earlier that I thought there had been a misunderstanding. I thought your follow up post would go some way to a more reasoned response. Sorry LittleMsBusty, I did do a bit of google on your behalf but did not find anything that excused or explained pedants ;-) Peachy 🍑
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RHP User
10 years ago
all about timing and intent, same as grammar nazi's. Why do I feel like I'm in a classroom here. I tell you what, I'll leave you to it, enjoy
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