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Women holding all the cards

November 21 2013

There have been a few posts lately about women hoding all the cards in this dating game, and men needing to jump through hoops. A few strategies have been suggested, such as suck it up, and play the game, but, well, I'm kind of lazy in that regard. I like to give & receive in balance. If there is not mutual interest and effort being put in, I'm not that willing to push the cart. So, I thought Id start a constructive thread on how to improve men's chances of receiving interest from women, rather than have to slog it out here. Sure, there are LOTS of threads about profile pics and profile advice, but I was thinking about that combined with general approaches to this site. My own advice would be to not spell it out in your profile eg I look like this, I like stuff, I'm looking for.. Demonstrate your personality in your writing. It's what is going to determine whether someone is attracted to you more so than your stats at the end of the day. Approach the site as an exercise in self development. What can you learn about yourself that you didn't know before? What can you learn about sexuality and sexual expression? It's an expansive field. How can you expand preconceived notions about the gender you are seeking to engage with that will make the person seem more appealing, unique and attractive to you? Approaches to messaging. Use this as good practice for your bantering skills. Don't get distracted by the promise of sex. A one tracked mind leads to a dead end street. Be intrigued by the person you are messaging. It's a very conducive mindset. What do you want to know about them? What piques your interest? Weave in & out of enquiring about them and sharing a bit about yourself to encourage a mutually engaging sense of discovery. Did I mention banter? A sense of ease within yourself will trump a sense of urgency every time. Be genuine, its the best thing a site like this and anonynimity can offer you, the chance to be 100% yourself. Good luck & love to hear more constructive approaches from you all.

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  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Did I complain about a profile please let it be known I do not complain about profiles.. look at mine ffs LMAO

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I can't help myself, I took issue with a lot of RA's comment but will limit myself to this... Please people, try to stop yourself using terms like 'weelchair-bound', or 'cancer/bipolar/etc-sufferer', which label people as their disability or illness and tend to de-humanise them. It is a big no-no for people who work within disability / allied health / mental health fields to use these types of terms, and much effort is being made to have this spread to the wider community, so that the emphasis is put back on the person rather than their disability (or illness). There are guides available on the internet regarding labelling language, and alternative phrases to use instead.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Unrushed1' Sooo, about 15% of respondents gave constructive advice, 5% jestful banter, 80% commented on the topic heading. And you all complain about people not reading profiles all the way to the end! LOL 😉 Your math is off. At least one serial poster chose to refrain from commenting.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Hey Mes, Inspirit & Luckdragon. My above post was not a criticism, it was banter. The forum is was it is & many a good thread have come from it evolution into something different to the original post. Long live freedom of speech!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I never saw it as that either....Saw it as fucked up bantering FACTS

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I wasn't referring to your post Unrushed, mine was directed at RandomAgent's comment. And just a general call to people to be aware of labelling language when it comes to disability.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Unrushed can I get you a nice cup of tea

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Can you invite Mes though. It sounds like she's been avoiding me 😳

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    i invite Mes you make your own tea and we will pop the Verve

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Before I agree to anything, I'll need to know what a Verve is 😬

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    That's a nervous teeth chattering emoticon...

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Your point is appreciated. Some sensitivity is called for at times. RA has been a bit quiet recently.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'inspirit' I never saw it as that either....Saw it as fucked up bantering FACTS Inspirit has it right on both counts. See, I can math. Now pass that Veuve. .

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Please excuse me for a minute or however long it takes you to read this, you are not going to get a short reply from me rather the long version so bear with me! And I will use paragraphs to make it easy for you all to follow. I will speak from my experiences here based on 9 months on a different site with a female profile where I was looking for a male (it didn't matter if he was married, single, divorced, whatever). My profile listed a false name (for discretion of course, I was cheating on my husband for part of that time until I came clean to him about what I was doing at about 5 months into the journey but I digress). It listed some vital appearance statistics, but nothing about what I was looking for and my my real age (for those who blatantly lie about this, that's a big no no- we do have an idea of what a 45 year old man should look like so don't say you are if you're really 50, what's the point, you do get sprung & it won't go well for you, trust me!!) Same with the smoking thing, don't say you're a non smoker or conveniently forget to mention it then turn up to your first date smelling like last nights ash tray- yes that did happen to me when I stated I was a non smoker, a huge turn off! I was bombarded with messages from mostly desperate guys who simply had a huge libido that wasn't being catered for on the home front. Same old, same old, blah, blah, blah, usually accompanied with penis photos. Straight to the not interested or delete button I went!! The fact I had virtually no information on my profile and a grey faceless cut out as a picture did not deter them and if I was online, watch out, messages would ping my inbox thick and fast. So I am going to be a huge hypocrite here and am preparing myself for a lynching in saying that to attract my interest a guy had to have a wordy profile that demonstrated a good level of education and literacy (no text language allowed or spelling or grammar mistakes), a sense of humour, a degree of honesty and why they were on the site. The more information the more I had to work with on determining if they were a person I would like to meet. A nice photo (no cock shots - I would go out of my way to avoid those, although there is a funny story there for another time). If they were dressed nicely, had a face photo or another interesting body part (a good set of abs or pecs or a nice shoulder was always more attractive than a cock shot) would always work to pike my interest. I HAVE TO SAY HERE GUYS, A PHOTO TAKEN IN YOUR MINING WORK UNIFORM WITH YOUR PANTS AROUND YOUR ANKLES AND THE SAFETY VISIBILITY STRIP REFLECTING WITH THE FLASH IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT FOR YOU!! Women are not that desperate when we are spoilt for choice. Now as a bit of revenge for some bad time wasting treatment from two guys who I'd had very open conversations with for over a month each, I put up a photo of myself on my profile. No face, fully dressed, black lacy top and skirt, knee high black stiletto boots. As you could imagine, the number of messages went through the roof, again from guys who didn't stand a chance because of the lack of effort and thought put into their profiles and dodgy photos. Guys, you have to stand out from the crowd, be creative and different if you want to attract attention. For myself, I will be attracted to a sense of humour and wit, to guys with a similar level of education to myself (university educated) and from a similar social class to myself. Does that make me sound like a snob? So be it, why compromise my values and I can usually tell all of this from a profile. Just like littlepinkhelmet stated- have some self respect with your appearance! I say save the mystery of your cocks till you meet someone, I get to the stage I've seen one, I've seen them all and for me the cock does not maketh the man. Sorry Kiwibred, first impression does it for me every time, generic profile next please. That's if I'm looking for someone to contact. Unrushed1, for me, I think guys do need to spell out some details about themselves in their profiles. How horrible to turn up to a meet and the guy is shorter than yourself. One idiot I met even had a profile pic of someone else, not even the same hair colour and forgot to mention this before I met him. Let's just say I only met him the once. Time is precious these days, the more we know about someone the more idea we have whether we may be attracted enough to exchange messages and meet. You decide within a few seconds of reading whether you would like to short list that person. If you bother to read our profile you will see my husband and I both have the view that our brains are our biggest sex organs, not my vagina or his cock. Take the time to engage our grey matter, titilate our fantasies, our desires, our imaginations and our senses and you're in. Being on a one track path to the bedroom or wherever does not work for us but do these things and invariably it will lead us there with you. Being genuine, honest, open and up front and yes 100% yourself will reap rewards. Start thinking with your big brains, not your little brains when composing your profiles and first messages of contact. First impressions go a long way......... Think that's all I wanted to say. Oh yes have left the site as a single, much better to be here on RHP with my husband on a journey of self discovery. You guys out there cheating on your wives, grow some balls, communicate your needs and desires with them and you just may get them to join you here, we are on the lookout for some nice genuine couples to meet! Mrs LTL

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I did compose the message in paragraphs I promise!! Bloody iPads!! Hope you can follow the last reply!!??

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    It's just champagne. I'll bring 7 bottles 😃

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    The iPad using safari won't separate the paragraphs. In order to do this you'll need the iPhone app. :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    A university degree didn't tell you that either :p - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Great track............ Amongst other connotations

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    But it was just tooooo long.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    and the rest of the girls will be there.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    A baker's dozen?

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    12 years ago

    Maybe I can come and drink the 13th... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    you made it to the East Coast Mrs Me, I'll get you a baker's dozen for yourself. 😃

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Of course you can me xx

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I just can't read squidged up posts....it's kinda like holding my breath under water

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    We try mistress... We do try... But no matter how many spaces or how many times I tap the space key, rhp decides in it's wisdom to convert all text into a single unpunctuated blob... The only respite I can offer is to do that thing that I can't remember what it's called... There it was... It's a rhp conspiracy against idevices... Hp xo 💌 Because we try and try to no avail...

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Highpriority' We try mistress... We do try... But no matter how many spaces or how many times I tap the space key, rhp decides in it's wisdom to convert all text into a single unpunctuated blob... The only respite I can offer is to do that thing that I can't remember what it's called... There it was... It's a rhp conspiracy against idevices... Hp xo 💌 Because we try and try to no avail... do you mean ... an ellipsis...? Yay! Thanks inspirit, you're just up the road, not quite stumbling distance though.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Long_time_lovers' Sorry Kiwibred, first impression does it for me every time, generic profile next please. That's if I'm looking for someone to contact. Mrs LTL, that's not what I said nor did my comments have any bearing on initiating contact. If I had to initiate contact then yes, that's where the informative profile makes all the difference and I too would pass on the generic one - unless I was intrigued enough by either their rhp name and/or headline in addition to pics.

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Unrushed1' you made it to the East Coast Mrs Me, I'll get you a baker's dozen for yourself. 😃 A baker's dozen to myself and I wouldn't rememebr the trip! Might as well stay here and just say I went, no?

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    How selfish. At least I would remember it. You wouldnt rob me of that would you? Oh God, what have I done, I think I've hijacked my own thread!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    A woman can only hold all the cards if the man lets them, likewise, a man can only hold all the cards if allowed to. The best thing anyone can do is allow themselves to be exactly who they are, and make no apologies for it. Know thyself, and let the cards fall where they may. That way, no-one holds them all....until it's time to deal the next hand. Then the dealer holds them all. CheersJAB

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    The fact is, men severely outnumber women by a huge margin on here, therefore women have the pick of the bunch. However, I think that if you're seen to be a decent kind of person either through your profile and initial contact or your forum posts you shouldn't have too much drama meeting likeminded people. Having said all that, I think age is also a factor. There are countless topics about how this age or that age don't get anywhere or who prefers over/under x age etc. best advice I can give- you can't catch a fish if you're hook isn't in the water

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Jay_Me' Gwad it irks me when I hear a woman boasting that her iron clad confident is that strong that no man dare venture near her unless us mere males are prepared to receive some tips on how to impress them.. ? WHAT ? That alone is enough to turn me off .. If I ever need to ask a woman how I should approach another womam, shoot me.. because I'd deserve it. Seriously' Who needs to work that hard ? No good relationship ever came about by having to explaining the facts on approaching a woman in one simple lesson ? If a man doesnt know what its all about by the time of maturity he missed out something bigtime. I've said it many times before, it's out there in the real world is where it counts.. Face to face where no one person gives you any of this " how to " BS. Nature has it attraction to one person is another's wonderment. ? When we click, we have a good time, when we dont the silence can be deafening... but at least we know where we stand.. How can any woman ever expect to find the right guy and vice versa ' with so many rules and regulations. ? May I suggest dropping the hardline, lightening up, become feminine, smile, be happy and let nature do the talking ? So much more becoming.. Very, very, VERY well said. In the past I had a profile on dating sites and could not believe some of the restrictions and limitations that many women put on their profiles, but then seriously still expected to find a human let alone a man that would meet their criteria. You sum it up perfectly in my opinion when you say it's all about just getting out there and rolling with what ever happens. One thing that I've learnt in my time and experiences is that if a woman wants to fuck you, she'll let you know very quickly and in no uncertain terms. I personally don't believe that either side holds the cards because if a guy isn't attracted to a woman then it doesn't matter how many cards she thinks she's holding. But the reality is that in todays society, females have the power when it comes to deciding on WHEN or IF sex occurs. Women usually get many messages everyday from guys with varying offers, to the point that you can actually pick and choose which guy you would prefer and go from there. Where as guys don't usually get inundated with messages or offers, therefore may come across as more "desperate". But just as a social experiment, imagine that the roles are reversed and men got flooded with messages from "desperate" women offering themselves to the point that guys could then pick and choose which women they wished to pursue and then narrow down the choices even more. In this reversal scenario, it would then appear over time that men held the cards. Now reverse it back to its original form, and it comes across as a whole that women hold all the cards. But to be fair, I have or offer no defence to the guys that just bulk send messages to 100 women hoping that 1 will reply and then class it as a successful approach. And it's usually these guys that turn women off and ruin the fun for genuine guys. And I was always lead to believe that 1 out of 100 was a pretty dismal failure ?

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    It's all about compromise and respect for your partner.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Love the way you say it girl - very direct. The men on here either find that intimidating and back off or they embrace it and go with it. Luckydragon - everything you said in "The Male Approach" was spot on. I couldn't have said it better myself. Everything's already been said here, no need for me to comment further, but have to say, am loving reading everyone's input, just wish more regular's would comment and have their say....... x

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Highpriority' We try mistress... We do try... But no matter how many spaces or how many times I tap the space key, rhp decides in it's wisdom to convert all text into a single unpunctuated blob... The only respite I can offer is to do that thing that I can't remember what it's called... There it was... It's a rhp conspiracy against idevices... Hp xo 💌 Because we try and try to no avail... Other than that, it does the same to me depending on the browser I'm using. Have you tried putting a full stop on the line between paragraphs? That works for me.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Well the ellipsis doesn't give me a paragraph so I'm not sure if a full stop will either... Now, where was I ?. Oh, yes I was wondering if the ellipsis or a common household variety full stop would allow me to paragraph. Mmmm, people wonder why I often use lots of smilies 😕 pretty simple really... 😉 it allows me break up those blobs of text ... 😄 into something more readable... 🙏😍 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Inspirit, we tried to arrange a couple of meets with other couples, and so many times even after sending pics etc no shows, all keyboard talk so its hard to find a genuine site

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Great subject , all in all woman do and should hold all the cards ,as woman are the owners of the pussy , in control of the table, cards in question are invite only , so women are the dealers and the house ! house has the last say , now as for the game itself every single person on any site is a player ! playing on so many different levels ,house always wins in dispute so women do hold the cards because a woman chooses the players ,decides a winner ,and presents the prize!! prize being open house to her desires? no second prizes maybe the odd runner up! so women do hold the cards have the final say! simple we just gotta play a good hand and get the nod, and if a woman says no its no. of course women hold all the cards always have always will.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    2 months ago i was over this shit on a free for all sight, so i sent a couple of quote me"you look like you need a good fucking" well one particular lady was quite besides herself and very cross , how dare you mr talk to me like that!!! yes i am sorry i had a bad day please forgive me ? you wont fuck me she said !! ok i am sorry again please forgive me ?Guess what she did, so chatting for a week or more she was very blunt with her no you will not, however from the very first messages she had actually agreed with me and admitted she needed a good fucking< so what a challenge and brings me to the point i am trying to make? i played my cards perfectly , and she handed hers to me!!!! So i on meeting this lady had a drink and explained to her that her handing her cards in like she did is very dangerous!! As i was handed her cards i was dictating every move i was in control of her basically as she denied all along that she needed but all the time wanted to be fucked. What i am saying here is what i told her, you should never hand yourself over as you did you are volnourable , with out her cards of control , a woman must for her own protection hold these cards her life her personal space depend on having the final say !! making the final and the first decision ,and being confident powerful onalert fussy choosey a bitch frigid cock teaser you name it ladies you have to be all of them and in total control your life depends on it. how many men are raped by women none. Always hold your cards ladies close to your chest. And for the record we had a drink till they closed the pub on us, i kissed her goodnight and went home.alone.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    *blink blink* What on earth was that about?? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Ha nice name ha spoon? Wooden i take it? Yes sorry bout confusion may have crept in difficult to explain but basic s, When someone is starving of anything , they become anxious then desperate! And when someone is desperate they tend to do what they would never dream of, but then desperate turns conservative into risky and risky into dangerous and people follow any one that offers what they are starving of. A desperate person has a lost spirit, a lost spirit will sell there soul !!! And the world is full of buyers.!!! - Posted from rhpmobile

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