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Life is easier when you are one of the “beautiful people”
December 21 2018
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RHP User
7 years ago
I think we certainly think life is easier for the “beautiful people”. That because they have physical attributes that draw the eye that this then in turn translates to being more popular and more desirable. Whilst looks certainly plays a part in attraction so does personality and character and mind and knowledge. You can be beautiful but have no substance. You can have personality and character and knowledge but have no beauty. Beauty has to be a combination at all these things - in my opinion anyway. Beauty is different for each of us. We all see beauty in a different way and chaeacterising it into one category that suits all is impossible. I have looked at profiles in the past and seen pictures and straight away though wow they are out of my league - they are so beautiful/gorgeous etc and rule them out as potential friends ...but I am learning no one is out of my league unless I rule them out of my league by self sabotage... I’m learning to see beauty in myself in a physical and other capacity and not assume I am not a beautiful person.. I think being strikingly beautiful can potentially make it hard for people to meet others as they could potentially hit a brick wall and be written off as too beautiful without being given a chance to be known as a person and a human...
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madotara69
7 years ago
I'm an angel so I see all people as beautiful, some just don't know it. Tara though, wow her eyes sparkle when she smiles, she glowed so beautiful when having our babies...ineffable. The sex we have, has been regular with some spikes of more than regular sex, sex together we have shared with other folk, mainly guys joining us in threesomes, a few girls too and some couples. I truly believe the 'beautiful' of it all...is our friendship and all aspects of what our friendship has been built on, a set of principles, (single answer for any given moment) Tara is her own person, her spirit and soul, her self. So I can't tell her what or what not, I can ask, advise, argue, however she makes her own choices and I can only see them through with her, whether she makes mistakes....we all do, to learn by them. Being honest with her, faithful to her, respectful as in equality all protected and maintained by those principles has been enjoyable. Tara say's It's a beautiful word.. 'equilibrium'.. she loves the way it sounds, the way it looks and everything it so beautifully means. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
7 years ago
The argument that attractive people live a life of secret torment is much like people saying that money doesn't make you happy - strictly speaking it doesn't, but not having any is demonstrably worse than having too much. There is a woman at work who, and I am trying to be kind, was born cursed with unfortunate facial features. She is a lovely, wonderful person - way more than she ought to be given the hell she cops - she has been on the receiving end of scorn and flak all her life (still does to this day, even among other ''adults''). I wouldn't mind betting that she wouldn't mind trading places with someone even blandly attractive for just a few days, and probably for the rest of her life if she had a choice. Attractive people are listened to more attentively, more likely to be noticed in the workplace and are less likely to be lonely. I don't have stats for that but I'm sure there are some.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Statements like that are usually from weaker personalities... Everyone has similar fears, and insecurities...some people just make do with what they’ve got, whilst others allow it to define them and they become bitter and then comments like that come out.... One of the most laughable examples is about money...you need money to be able show a woman a good time, etc....and it’s true if they’re a gold digger...but all of the women I know care not about anything that superficial, and concentrate on the finer things like feeling their belly hurt from laughter... Same with beauty....
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madotara69
7 years ago
Attractive people are listened to more attentively, Perhaps more distractedly, intimidated or sucking up passably all a possibility ? I reason to this by also having a friend, she is at the top of her game in amongst only a few with her knowledge come expertise throughout the world. When she speaks, she is listened to attentively. She ain't no super model, beautiful person never the less. Not so sure your stats can be so sure. Merry Christmas and hope the festive season brings some joy to be with you OkeyDoke :)
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FredAndGinger2
7 years ago
Wow these are some fantastic heart-felt responses already. I will add: - an attraction to someone is more than beauty - your own beauty can always be improved in many ways both physically, attitude and ehaviours Merry Christmas - Fred
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RHP User
7 years ago
Beauty is not inherent I think the best beauty comes from the beauty that is grown, nurtured, encouraged, not expected... A beauty that blossoms from within and then shines to the outside world...
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RHP User
7 years ago
I have a friend in my running group who has always been what I call physically perfect but until lately suffered from low self esteem making her undesirable to others. Her self esteem has now improved which makes her now appear gorgeous although nothing about her weight or muscle tone has changed. Life is easier for confident people.
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FredAndGinger2
7 years ago
Is confidence easy?
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RHP User
7 years ago
I am a mature aged very very ordinary average woman with a mum bod, lumps and bumps, a few stretch marks and wrinkles here and there and worse still the occasional pimple! Yet I have never within myself felt more beautiful confident and sexy due to the knowledge attained thus far from life experiences. Beauty without humour or intelligence or the most treasued quality kindness, is just like looking at a beautiful object or painting. You may feel an emotion whilst viewing it but is that emotion enough to sustain your spirit indefinitely? And the very definition of female beauty changes throughout the ages. To me all people who are kind and show respect for the planet we live on are indeed beautiful.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Confidence depends on the person. My friend found it when she became happier with herself.
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Reg44
7 years ago
It does not matter what others think about your body.. Its your skin and wear it with pride ... The skin is an illusion
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RHP User
7 years ago
Hi, Oh …… You can have the talent know what your about be well trained in many fields of expertise have a lovely nature even get on well with people , yet your flawed in the beauty side of thing,s not perfect not feminine enough so your ignored , your walked past like you don't exist......I know form experance over many times that I have given up , some places I have been to I wont go again no point, the guys have eye,s for only what they perceive as beauty that is skin deep,,,,,, its not the beauty I don't like or how pretty the person is , its I know I don't stand a chance I,m flawed and why would a guy pick me any way, think I,d be so shocked if I was no idear what I,d do ….. and then I get told beauty is in the eye of the beholder . I like the beholder as I can say what about the holder would he bother, with me...….. I wonder in 30 years time what the beholder will say then when he is ignored and walked past will he remember what he has done to others and he,s the one on the recciving end ,,,,,Hmmmm. I wonder,how he,ll feel then. ...noeleena..
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nightingale8
7 years ago
Strictly speaking yes life is easier for beautiful people (but not "easy"). Let's not kick the elephant in the room. Ironically, you'd usually only hear that statement from people for whom perceived lack of beauty is not the reason for their failure.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Of course its easier!!! And when it comes to sex and relationships women have it infinitely easier than men and thats just a fact. The only men that have it easy are the extremely attractive ones and ones with bulging wallets. Once again, a blatant fact.
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countrytouch82
7 years ago
Incident on a packed commuter train. The train was literally packed standing with rowdy football fans returning from a Melbourne game to the countryside. I already had a window seat in the middle. At Melton, a few more people had to get on. One was a quite average woman with a pram, she went up and down to different doors but no more room was allowed for her. However room was made for a couple of young pretty ladies so to speak.
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countrytouch82
7 years ago
More to the point, I'm willing to believe that if the pram mother was very attractive and busty etc, they would have made more of an exception. On the contrary, if you are quite attractive then I guess it's a problem to never know what people's real intentions are when they are involved or interact with you. If you are of average appearance or less, maybe you would be able to take it as more likely genuine if someone wishes to be friends? There's a similar trend with having money. I remember a story on a multi-millionaire who gave away all of his fortunes to go and live like a hermit in the forest or equivalent. He said while he had lots of money, he never met a real person in his life so to speak. I'm sure it is always hard to work out whether people's interests are based on a superficial level only or not.
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MsJonesy
7 years ago
Thats a load of bullshite.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Which part do you disagree with?
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RHP User
7 years ago
is none of my business - however YMMV!
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MsJonesy
7 years ago
This is the bit I disagree with: "sex and relationships women have it infinitely easier than men and thats just a fact. The only men that have it easy are the extremely attractive ones and ones with bulging wallets. Once again, a blatant fact."
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MsJonesy
7 years ago
I'm not sure EQ, whether I agree, or disagree. I have had friends who are simply stunning, who appeared to have it all but they were so miserable. I am no raving beauty, but many would say I have it all. 🤔 Beauty is more than looks, I am attracted to a beautiful soul well before I am attracted to physical beauty.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Ms Jonesy, With men meeting women, as it is, and has always been; if theres a room with say 10 men, and a woman walks in, isnt she always going to gravitate to the most attractive guy in the room? The guy with the nicest eyes, the nicest smile or the most confidence? All these things are classed as attractive right? And between men and women, who can live without sex the most? Women can. That automatically makes women the more dominant sex, be it right or wrong. Im not saying this is the case 100% of the time, but it surely is 75% of the time. Some women may not realise they have this power and even some of the ones that do may not act on it, but many many do. Its like the old saying; the secret to a happy marriage is a happy wife; and what does that mean? the power to withhold sex.
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
The these beautiful people?? Ms Foxy
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RHP User
7 years ago
Ms Foxy, for me its someone with a beautiful soul that smiles at you with their eyes, holds eye contact and is genuinely curious and interested in what you say and asks just as many questions, and never once looks at their phone while they're talking to you.
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RHP User
7 years ago
What’s key here is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all see beauty in different ways, shapes and forms. Therefore there is no one mould to deem the definition of beauty. Beauty is components encompassing the outside and the inside of people unique to each individual, experiences that have moulded them and what they seek. Beauty is also what people choose to see in others: if you choose only to base beauty on looks then a person with a beautiful soul and story and mind may not be deemed as beautiful in the conventional method of looks. However should you choose to see beauty as more than the outer package you see people in a different light and manner and all of a sudden beauty is everywhere for you to find and appreciate.
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
People will fawn over people that are attractive. Both of my children when they were young constantly got comments over their beauty. I always felt uncomfortable about it. It just reinforced the stereotype that being beautiful somehow made you more than others. Which is of course BS. I personally didn't like it. I don't really think it's an important quality to focus on. But focused on it is. Constantly. Imagine if we were all blind somehow to looks? Wouldn't that be interesting?
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honkytonk
7 years ago
in a swarthy caveman kinda way (beats his chest like a terse silver back gorilla, throws a handful of poo and runs back into the bushes)
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
We just can't help it can we? You big wog hairy gorilla. 😂 Ms Foxy
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
i think ,it’s the same as for everyone ,some things may be easier for a beautiful person and some things may be harder ,it’s just the things themselves may be differ, confidence ,oh i would buy a bucket of that if i could for us ,that’s what i think the luckier people in world have loads of , mr b
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
sorry that may not read right ,surprise surprise,lol it is mean beautiful people may get things easily that non beautiful people but then a non beauty may get something a beauty may not eg. a cheap deal on something from a salesperson to promote a product ,cos they are beautiful ,but then maybe they will pay top dollar cos the salesperson assumes they can afford it ,but a non beauty may get the better deal cos the sales person assumes they can’t afford it and is just mr average like the sales person and they cut them a break to help out oh gawd i know what’s in my head ratterling around lmao , mr b
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RHP User
7 years ago
Look, there's a beautiful person... 😊 More on topic, people want things from beautiful people as a flip side to how physical beauty can get things. 🍑
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RHP User
7 years ago
Does being attractive open more doors? Absolutely, in my opinion. But does it make life easier? I think that depends on many other things that have nothing to do with looks. In my twenties I was considered conventionally beautiful by Western standards; tall, slim, with long hair, great skin, and even features. I got hit on everywhere, free drinks, seats offered, yada yada. But... Did I feel beautiful? No. As a child as was not attractive at all, had a very a IQ, and suffered a visible neurological disorder. I was bullied badly for years, and left with little self esteem. My upbringing didn't help. Did I enjoy the attention? No, I distrusted everyone. The same people who had bullied me now wanted to be my friends. Did I have more sex? No, I had a steady boyfriend (who didn't treat me too well because of said self esteem). Did it help me in my career? When I was nineteen my manager told me I may as well give up, because with my looks no one would ever take me seriously. Twenty-six years later I'm still here, fuck him btw. Had my school and home life been supportive, I may have used my looks to my advantage and gone far (and be rich now?). But then I also may have turned out to be a fucking dreadful human. I'm back online for a bit, almost 46 now and due to illness and lots of meds this year at least two sizes bigger. Those of you who've met me over the years at M&Gs probably wouldn't recognise me. My smile is still the same though, hope you recognise it. Merry Christmas, fuckers.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Don't agree... Life is tough enough somedays with out judgements. We are all different and because someone is percieved as beautiful in body and looks, you don't know what's really going in in the head. So you may think they get it better..... but do they really....Id say no.
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RHP User
7 years ago
CD I agree with Jonesy. What a crock of shit.😁
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL'More on topic, people want things from beautiful people as a flip side to how physical beauty can get things. 🍑 So no, I don't think life is necessarily easier for people perceived as beautiful. Peachy
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bonefide
7 years ago
Susan Boyle would have not got a second look, before becoming a world class opera singer. Just saying Its about the whole package, not just the outer casing. Some people got it and some haven’t, just a fact of life.Your choice on how you look at life as a wholepackage. Stand tall Walk proud.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Some of the "beautiful people" are ugly on the inside.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'MrMojoRisin' Some of the "beautiful people" are ugly on the inside. Reminds me of this Tweet by John Mayer I read once: If you’re pretty, you’re pretty; but the only way to be beautiful is to be loving. Otherwise, it’s just “congratulations about your face.”
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL' Look, there's a beautiful person... 😊 More on topic, people want things from beautiful people as a flip side to how physical beauty can get things. 🍑 I guess that's why I thought this was a relevant comment because the beauty of smiles is that they shine through from the inside no matter your physical appearance. I have some of the most beautiful friends and family who make my life complete with their beautiful souls. It wouldn't be worth living without them. Peachy, they've worked for what they have
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL'AgreedQuoting 'PeachyPearL'SmileLook, there's a beautiful person... 😊 More on topic, people want things from beautiful people as a flip side to how physical beauty can get things. 🍑 I guess that's why I thought this was a relevant comment because the beauty of smiles is that they shine through from the inside no matter your physical appearance. I have some of the most beautiful friends and family who make my life complete with their beautiful souls. It wouldn't be worth living without them. Peachy, they've worked for what they have
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RHP User
7 years ago
There are many studies that show that physical attractiveness leads to bias. Women who are more attractive tend to be more likely to be proven not guilty in a criminal trial, etc. That said, physical attractivemess plays no impact in advancement in the workplace from my experience. I have a soft spot for brown hair and brown eyes, but at the end of the day, I will employ men/women who get the job done.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Life is easier when you have beautiful people around you. You get that by being a beautiful person.
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RHP User
7 years ago
This is a very easy topic to argue for and against. My experiences (and that's what they are, no one else's) is that physical attraction is undoubtedly the first thing that draws us to one another. Whether we like it or not, that is the first impression we act on. Anything more than that can only come by meeting someone one on one - only then can you see if there is more to physical beauty. Some will act on looks alone, others will not. We have to remind ourselves that we are on a site that caters predominantly for a certain thing, and that will be driven be natural instincts. So, in summary (once again, my opinion), beauty goes as far as you're willing to explore, remembering everyone is different!!
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RHP User
7 years ago
If I could make an observation here. There seems to be bundles of furious anger on the 'everyone is the same' .. While the other side is a lot more calm. Does a beautiful person have it easier than a less attractive person? .... Maybe not all the time but more than 50% of those situations. Absolutely May as well call the sky purple if you can't see that
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RHP User
7 years ago
In a world where we see a photo of someone first, before we decide to meet them, yes, they do have it easier. Or even those that know how to take a good photo with the right lighting and angles. Without online apps, you had to meet someone in person. I have loved many people who probably wouldn’t be classed as ‘beautiful’ from their photo but in person, I was attracted to their energy, their smile, the twinkle in their eyes. They are beautiful. So I do try to remember this when I see a photo that isn’t particularly flattering. Everyone is beautiful. I try to chat a bit, then make up my mind about whether I want to get to know them better.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Is used by some people to get what they want,a tool in life and business. Is physical beauty an attribute that makes life easier? It can either help or hinder.I have a friend who when he was in his twenties and thirties was so good looking that people literally stared at him in the street.He was embarrassed by all the attention and felt like an object. Now that he is over forty,balding and not so physically compelling life is easier for him. If someone has used their sexual capital to advance their career it can be quite galling for them as they age and if they haven't developed other aspects of their personality they may find themselves rejected,the opportunities are no longer there. Hugs Q
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bonefide
7 years ago
If you’re pretty, you’re pretty; but the only way to be beautiful is to be loving. Otherwise, it’s just “congratulations about your face.”
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RHP User
7 years ago
Makes us think of Radiohead.."Creep" ..I want a perfect body, I want a perfect soul...etc...we are not stuck in amber...Fred your self improvement ethos is spot on..for us...nothing more more attractive than random acts of kindness, sincerity and generosity of spirit...if you are not connected by anything other than your appendages or invaginations your'e simply rutting. The intent always trumps the action, the physical involuntary reactions to appearance are hardwired and you could only feel pity for those dominated by their hard wiring surely?
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RHP User
7 years ago
Very interesting topic. Some great responses with a lot of thought and feeling. In the context of this site (and online dating sites in general) looks are the first and foremost hook. Then we typically read the witty comments, well that's the idea. It would seem those of us that feel.we dont cut it in the beauty department show our best attributes ie cock, tits, ass, chest etc. So on that basis alone i would suggest that yes beauty helps. Of course once a meet is arranged personality and chemisty (that is seemingly important on this site..) then beauty will only go so far. But if we werent able to get that initial response then a meet is unlikely. Therefore i suggest that yes beauty helps ..
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RHP User
7 years ago
I looked at your pic and thought that cute dogs like retrievers, labradoodles pugs and have much much better reputations than staffies, bull-terriers, or rotties. Yet the latter are just as (if not more) beautiful and loving.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Mike has been overweight and he has been fit and lean. I notice the attention he gets when he has a nice body. It is apparent. Women really pay attention both when we are out in public and when we are at swinger parties. He is the same charming flirty personality always and he has always been very confident (which I find sexy) but the body makes a major difference. I would sayife is easier when you are fit and have a nice body. I have seen both sides.
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
So many interesting answer so far. Thanks for your input everyone its making for interesting holiday reading x
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
It opens a lot of doors, get you in a lot of bedrooms, the better jobs. It helps everywhere in life. More than physical beauty ever will. When l came here over 4 years ago, l had zero confidence within my female persona. My confidence was built by the people I've met in here. As my confidence grew my life became easier and happier. I've not changed physically, older of course. To be who l am is naturally hard even in this modern age. But with confidence l can go anywhere, work any room and just be happy in myself. As has been said in here, the physically beautiful still have it hard if their mental aptitude is eroded by lack of confidence. So l think confidence is the foundation to build on. Get that by loving yourself, loving life and being a good person that those around you will see and want you around them. Just be the best person you can be and life will let you into it.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Well when they were handing out the beautiful people tickets, the line was far too long, so I just went to the ugly, grumpy old prick line and got served straight away...so I guess (Beautiful people 0) (UGOP 1). Another thing, even the fruit bats fly upside down over my place so they don't shit on my car....I noticed the beautiful people's car up the road had a big serving of mango chutney, so (Beautiful people 0) (UGOP 2)....do the beautiful people think life's easier? I dunno....I'll ask them when they finish washing their car....actually...they hired a UGOP to do it for them.....Damn! 1/2.....
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RHP User
7 years ago
There’s a study for everything... https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/mar/08/genetic-study-shows-mens-height-and-womens-weight-drive-earning-power From my experience (I worked for a few years modelling in Aus and overseas whilst in uni)... looks matter in school but wallet matters as a grown up.
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RHP User
7 years ago
But I will add....so as not to be perceived as a FUGOP, (Facetious, ugly, grumpy, old prick) I'll add this.... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....I've looked into the eyes of those beholders...and yes I saw beauty.....buggered if I know what they saw.....
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RHP User
7 years ago
I’ve been reflecting... the original question was posed as easy being equated to physical and career metrics- which is one aspect of life being easy but I think there’s a lot more that makes life easy or conversely hard. When your value is in the beholders hands, then insecurity can follow. In a way you become a slave to positive attention. Ive seen plenty of under educated girls that were told they were set and just had to throw themselves into their modelling as they were hot right now... and plenty that are completely f...d up as a result. If sailing through life easily is the goal, then I’d say having no master pulling your strings is a good start... just a thought.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Life would be easier with a six pack and good head just sayin
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RHP User
7 years ago
Inspirit; just as an inelegant responce as Jonesy to my comments. Well done, lot of brain power there.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Yep its %100 true. Also no different to been a boss or been wealthy how you dress. We live in a judgemental world. Most people walk past others every day and judge what sort of a person with just a look. Racisim also the same scenario. Were all under the same sun We all laugh in the same language We all cry in the same language We all smile an frown the same nomatter what we look like And we all have feelings and a strong feelings cant compete with any looks. Stay true an all will be content Ps jsut stay away from those who know no better an stay conscious of your doings to others. That my 2 cents may everyone prosper in the Newyear🙈🙉🙊
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SSExplorer
7 years ago
Does every beautiful person have it easier? Of course not! Does being blessed with physical beauty give you an advantage in most situations? Of course it does! Does this mean all less physically beautiful people are destined to be cheated out of the pleasures in life? Of course not! I have been blessed with having the most beautiful partners though my life, all have been beautiful on the inside and have ranged from model material to not quite model material on the outside. I’ve seen the seas part for their beauty and a few times have seen their beauty put them in severe danger. What I do notice these days is that there is a lot more emphasis on both sexes to be physically perfect above perfecting a beautiful soul. Look at social media, everyone is busy portraying a perfect life and a perfect body, I had a dabble into Instagram to check out what these “influencers” are about, wow, I have never seen so many beautiful people completely obsessed with being beautiful! To be honest I could look at these perfect pictures all day long, I have been just as attracted to this physical ideal all my life. I’ve punched well above my weight my whole life and realise that I stayed in some relationships more for the perceived value of the partner than if they were actually the right one! The most beautiful soul now lays beside me every night, she thinks she doesn’t compare with the beauty of my previous partners and to be honest she doesn’t get as much attention from others but my desire for her is different than anything I have experienced before. It is quite hard to explain as I am definitely physically attracted to her but unlike previous partners this is less of a focus which somehow feels more real. Is this perception a reality? It’s a complex question and I think it is something that is evolving and I fear not for the better. Society is becoming more and more obsessed with perceived perfection and more and more people are trying to attain it while the ugly issues of our society are being ignored. Ok enough of my rambling, let’s all head out and give our affection to anyone who greets us with a genuine smile or a genuine need :)
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RHP User
7 years ago
you asked "Who are these beautiful people?" Do you "Youtube" ?? Go there and put into your "Search" box ""Animals are beautiful people (Full movie)" And watch THAT..OMFG.. it is a movie form the 70's made by the producers of "The Gods must be crazy" And such a delightfully enjoyable movie.. ESPECIALLY when ALL the animals get drunk.. that is piss-funny..
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usrightnow_Again
7 years ago
Is beauty subjective, yes, to a point. However, I'm sure there are cultures outside the "West", that both find beauty and have this beauty influence lives. Why would such a thing be just within one part of the world and not another. People everywhere are surprisingly similar. .. There have been studies which show a preference for many, for mate or friend, for people with faces constructed in a certain way. I've had my teenage years and my adulthood during the time in the history of Modern Humans, where looks have been incredibly important, if not more important than ever. We can thank Rupert Murdoch and his wish to make enough money to access the American market, for him, thankfully, Diana Spencer appeared, the rest, as they say, is trajectory. .. Obviously, some people are lucky through their genes and are stunning. Even without makeup, surgical procedures and dyed hair. There are good looking people below that. Then comes the largest group, average. Now, average covers a lot of ground. These are people who at least some will find attractive, but not all. You could argue that there are stages of average. All the exercise in the world isn't going to allow them either out of average or beyond good looking. Then there is the category I'm familiar with. I made a comment in a thread in 2016 that I was undoubtedly the ugliest person, as far as physical appearance was concerned, on rhp. . I called myself The Beast in The Basement, of our little Hotel California here. I thought, meh, why not own it. Within an hour , that comment had four likes, and I thought, okay fair enough. I've had a lifetime, since middle primary school, of people turning away from me, or staring, then calling me names, people I've known and many I haven't, coming up to me, even on the street and saying "what the fuck...what is that, what's wrong with you. I've been disregarded or passed over for jobs I was more than qualified for, put out the back, away from customers. I've seen that look, when people first see me, friends or colleagues of my wife, rhp. people, work colleagues, nationally and internationally well known people, at home or at events, it's disheartening. Have I been treated differently? Absofuckinglutely, has it cost me jobs? Tick again. Friends? Tick. Has it cost me family relationships and have I been mocked and ridiculed by family, because of my appearance? Yep. .. Did it impact my confidence? Yeah. Was I a good person? Yep. Do looks make a difference? Yes, they can. Particularly for those who will never even make it to the average category. So perhaps it's relative. As some have made mention, it (beauty) can present some people with opportunities that some , like me, no matter how talented or whatever, will never be presented with or have as an option. Are there some problems that can be associated with that passage and success, yes. Is it as bad as where I sit? No. Being treated negatively being dismissed , being excluded, just because of the way you look, on a daily basis, year in, year out, can take a significant toll. For some of us, life isn't like a teen movie, where all the girl has to do is take off her glasses and put down her hair and it's suddenly a breeze. Yes, you can argue it's not that simple for anyone, however you get my point. .. Disfigurement, deformity, even weight, can change people's perception of you. I come across these people all the time, people who probably don't think they would treat someone like me differently, but they do. .. Solitary, thanks for sharing more of your story. EQ., there have been some great responses. Page three filled up before I could even post. This one cent, was found in a beach car park, run over think, bent up, scratched, rubbed, thrown away or dropped. I found it at some point, put it in the bowl on the dresser, just below the mirror. Mr. urn. .
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RHP User
7 years ago
Obviously you're stating the obvious, I'm constantly thinking about weird & screwed up it is that being smart, talented, an incredible person in general etc does nothing for your happiness in life, the thing that determines all of your happiness is how you were born looking
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Huntingbear
7 years ago
Beauty doesn't last forever while they tend to get what they want while their young, they need to become humble and have a good character in their older years
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RHP User
7 years ago
Simply put “ Beauty is in the eye of the beholder “
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RHP User
7 years ago
Great responses but my personal opinion is that a good majority of the 'white' folks have reservations and stereotype without reason. Example... a non white goes to a social event and you can be the non white Brad Pitt and get nowhere. You only get stared at and even if you try and make conversation, yiu can see lack of interest. Goto a swinger place and you will be kept out most of the time. Got asked one time if I was an uber driver when all I tried to do was have a polite conversation with a 'white' aussie. Not even considered a male with the same physical nature as your 'white' peers. Isn't this because of looks? How do you get a chance to present whats beyond looks if you don't even get a toe in the door! Look at Australian television, who do you see reading the news, fronting all shows? Dont want to be racist but my theory is if and when 'white' and 'racist' folks get over the 'whose's the fairest in the land' syndrome we would not need to have these discussions. Peace✌
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RHP User
7 years ago
Yep.. it sure is !! (Tongue firmly planted in cheek)
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'd be interested in the person who said this actually because it suggests more about them than the actual sentence spoken. Who are the beautiful people to them? Because it is all subjective isn't it? Look at the ugly mofos we have running the country for eg. Is it the way I perceive them rather than their actual appearance that influences my perspective? They often seem so affected? Hawke was amazing. Ahhh, googled that, and the man is shown mid laugh. Those were good times over here. Paul Keating's photo is due for an update? LOL Is there a laneway in our country's political arena that gives ugly people a place to be? Maybe? Or is it just that Australia was more a place about strength of character? I see the Monarchy as beautiful people in general though there is one couple in the family that does not shine in my eyes in particular who come across as ugly. One of those two I never took a shine to though. Beside that couple, is it the family's wealth that allows them to preen themselves so we never really see the real thing? I dunno, I do see physically beautiful people who do not appeal to me because of their character, so I guess there is some hope beyond my isms. And thinking on it... Who has seen the photos of the Kardashians before they became so called 'beautiful people'? A deep and meaningful, tortuous thought process... Still do wonder where the thought in the OP first came from. If only we could hear from that author. Peachy, Happy New Year's Eve, 2019. May good karma be what you offer that the generosity be returned multifold as is the way of whatever we offer.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'island_life' Yep.. it sure is !! (Tongue firmly planted in cheek) I cannot help but wonder, since you posted that, how many people have thought they'd like to stick their tongue in your cheek! Nice pics the pair of you. Peachy
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RHP User
7 years ago
I need some loving....anyone interested
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RHP User
7 years ago
I look for people I believe are of average beauty as I'm quite average looking. Kinda makes me wonder about the fact that maybe I'm butt fucken ugly, like well below Parr. Compare my inbox with a beautiful persons. I wouldn't know what to do with the attention. The beautiful people must have it tough.
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RHP User
7 years ago
It’s really interesting to hear so many different perspectives in a civil debate (let’s face it sometimes people get too heated sometimes). We thought we’d share our thoughts in this conversation as well. Unfortunately our view is that no single answer of yes or no can reflect the complexity of a life being easier. In many respects, being physically attractive can be an asset, you might attract a more physically attractive partner or even stand out in an interview to get a job but it also has potential drawbacks. That partner might only value you for your looks and nothing else (think trophy wife). If you secured a job based on your looks chances are you are also more likely to be sexually harassed or less likely to be assessed on your merit. There’s also the issue of who is deciding that a person is attractive. There are some people who are generally thought to be attractive and as stated before this may give the illusion of them being out of the league of others. There are also those who see themselves as being attractive and project confidence which in turn makes them more desirable. Good question though
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RHP User
7 years ago
Depends on the context. Sure perhaps in daily life and social interactions i assume it’s easier... people may be nicer instantly. But if you open your mouth and you’re a b***h - people would not respond very well. Although more easily will forgive you if it was an error etc. In the professional context (corporate world) I think it can be disadvantage. People at first value assume you’re just pretty and dumb.. it takes a lot more to prove yourself.. I assume once you’ve shown your capabilities then you’re seen as a “whole package”. Although I think beautiful women succeed in the corporate world by acting like a b***h.. just saying.. (that is passing the glass ceiling - yes it still exists sadly)..
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RHP User
7 years ago
Why the beast felt in love with the beauty ? And why the beauty felt in love for a beast ? Yeah sounds fairy tale ! But there is always a character or something in you only that special person will see it in you ,, you could be beautiful in the eyes of smith but less attractive to John ,, after all you not every one cup of tea ✌️
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RHP User
7 years ago
Its all open to interpretation however its true that taller people get into higher paid jobs, as studies have reviled. This may be due to a more dominate projection of someone you have to actually look up to. Therefore, this could be said for better looking people. They may or may not have more sex, however I would argue that they have better sex with other physical gifted persons which allows stamina and endurance. As for work, In my opinion it is very obvious that better looking woman go higher, look at the tennis player Anna Kornakova. She never won a title yet she was the highest paid as she was the best looking. So in closing, better looking people have very clear advantages in life, interestingly if your a good looking woman such as Veronica as she is not only stunning but also gifted cognitively.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Interesting discussion and great question. What amazed me about the questions and the responses is that nobody has yet leaned on science and or studies that have looked specifically into this subject. In case people are still wondering, yes, life is easier for beautiful people. It's been proven in research that they are more easily believed, get chosen for jobs over others and that others valued them as friends over others. I'd like to say that, 'oh no! That's not me and I'd never do that. Challenging as it is to contemplate, it's factual... but don't take my word for it (after all you don't know if I'm beautiful or not 😋😋😉😉).... Here is https://www.businessinsider.com/studies-show-the-advantages-of-being-beautiful-2013-6&ved=2ahUKEwiJzOrxnMzfAhVFf7wKHTSCBZcQFjAGegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3NEf8JWHt8Tmr-4dWSqFAk And if that link doesn't work, Google do beautiful people have it easier And look at the business insider article.....
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
Peachy The topic was from a discussion with a friend of mine. He said it and I disagreed to a point . I said it didn’t mean they were happier. He said it didn’t necessarily mean to be happier just that doors opened more easily for them. They were awarded more priveledge and social status because they were born with a set of features that are deemed attractive . I thought it was an interesting topic because it is so multifaceted.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'EarthQueen' Peachy The topic was from a discussion with a friend of mine. He said it and I disagreed to a point . I said it didn’t mean they were happier. He said it didn’t necessarily mean to be happier just that doors opened more easily for them. They were awarded more priveledge and social status because they were born with a set of features that are deemed attractive . I thought it was an interesting topic because it is so multifaceted. I have to agree that it is a fascinating question with many points of view wherever you look at it from. And I admit I have to agree to a point as well. It raises more questions than it answers. There are levels among the multi-facetedness? On the face of it, I feel like I could just plump up with a... Yep, it sure is. But I feel like I would be coming from a place of envy with a closed mind that doesn't explore where I am coming from. How much is it circumstances that define 'beautiful people'? That they're born into fortune. How many doors open that 'beautiful people' could well do without as we hear stories in our #metoo era? That invites the question about whether beauty come at a price. How many of our beautiful people have suffered the ultimate fate of an early death as that final door has opened and ended their lives unexpectedly? I think I'm way better at asking questions than answering them, lol. Cheers, Peachy, thanks for the reply and a Happy New Year o
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RHP User
7 years ago
Thanks for the nice words :-) My point about professional women was specific to the corporate scene. I think the professional tennis scene will be different and as per your observations.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Yes you’re right. There’s plenty of research that support “beautiful” people. In sales, apparently attractive salespeople outperform their not so attractive peers. In saying this, I think it also depends on the type of product they’re selling. But all else being equal (intellect, skills and environment), a consumer would purchase from the more attractive person (according to research).
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RHP User
7 years ago
yeah agree. I believe also that if you think you look good you are good, this develops confidence which in turn gives you advanced opportunities in the working environment. I once said to a very pretty girl "smile in your job interview, trust me". Lets just say she got the job, so yes looks are vital, and this backed up with performance can make you really stand out. You chat to me more on here than kik haha.
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usrightnow_Again
7 years ago
Quoting 'Domish' Interesting discussion and great question. What amazed me about the questions and the responses is that nobody has yet leaned on science and or studies that have looked specifically into this subject. In case people are still wondering, yes, life is easier for beautiful people. It's been proven in research that they are more easily believed, get chosen for jobs over others and that others valued them as friends over others. I'd like to say that, 'oh no! That's not me and I'd never do that. Challenging as it is to contemplate, it's factual... but don't take my word for it (after all you don't know if I'm beautiful or not 😋😋😉😉).... Here is https://www.businessinsider.com/studies-show-the-advantages-of-being-beautiful-2013-6&ved=2ahUKEwiJzOrxnMzfAhVFf7wKHTSCBZcQFjAGegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3NEf8JWHt8Tmr-4dWSqFAk And if that link doesn't work, Google do beautiful people have it easier And look at the business insider article..... Read it, interesting about the Dutch study mentioned. Also read an interesting piece on the subject on Quora, another on the smithsonianmag site, yet another on smallbusiness and one on Debate.org. Most, if not all those pieces included some of the negatives encountered by more attractive people too. Mr. urn. .
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
I have witnessed the animals (drunk) in real life. 😂 I guess I must be beautiful, if I drink "Amarula". 😀😂 Ms Foxy
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RHP User
7 years ago
How can one feel confident when people just end up degrading you for your looks , color of skin and race ???
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow_Again'Quoting 'Domish'Interesting discussion and great question. What amazed me about the questions and the responses is that nobody has yet leaned on science and or studies that have looked specifically into this subject. In case people are still wondering, yes, life is easier for beautiful people. It's been proven in research that they are more easily believed, get chosen for jobs over others and that others valued them as friends over others. I'd like to say that, 'oh no! That's not me and I'd never do that. Challenging as it is to contemplate, it's factual... but don't take my word for it (after all you don't know if I'm beautiful or not 😋😋😉😉).... Here is https://www.businessinsider.com/studies-show-the-advantages-of-being-beautiful-2013-6&ved=2ahUKEwiJzOrxnMzfAhVFf7wKHTSCBZcQFjAGegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3NEf8JWHt8Tmr-4dWSqFAk And if that link doesn't work, Google do beautiful people have it easier And look at the business insider article..... Read it, interesting about the Dutch study mentioned. Also read an interesting piece on the subject on Quora, another on the smithsonianmag site, yet another on smallbusiness and one on Debate.org. Most, if not all those pieces included some of the negatives encountered by more attractive people too. Mr. urn. . This question has been an interesting one that I've appreciated getting my mind involved in from my personal perspective. I'm over the moon to see that you, Mr. URN have found that negatives are mentioned in these studies too. I find I often have an unusual point of view, so it's a relief to see negativity mentioned elsewhere. Hm, Peachy
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm a big fan of older women compared to the young girls i like a woman with experience not just in bedroom but In general. Feel like I get along more and just have a better time which has made me more attracted in turn My thought anyway
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hornymark
7 years ago
It’s all about looks on rhp, anyone who says different is lying or delusional
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FredAndGinger2
7 years ago
We're not all born "beautiful" and many attributes of beauty" is in your own control. We have both an immense amount of effort to be the best people we can be. Some examples: - clothing / styling - we've been to some social meet and greet events where we've seen others rock up in a dirty, bad fitting t-shirt or shirt. For god's sake buy a few going out clothes because first impressions do count - right down to the shoes and socks- teeth straightened - we've both had braces- tanned people look healthier- physique - takes months/years and endless pain in the gym (we both know first-hand)- weight / fat - we do not diet but we do eat very clean "meat and 3 veg" meals- smile / happiness - more than a used-car salesman fakeness- hair - cut / styled / coloured- personal grooming - skin, ear/nose/eyebrow/body hair trimmed, perfume / cologne- self/inner confidence - I remember how nervous we were for the first 6 months. Crikey we've come a long way in 3 years and now we host our own social meet and greet and play events- personability - are you approachable/open/personal with a positive vibe? 3 years ago we had very little of any of these qualities and we've worked very hard on ourselves so that others can feel comfortable calling us the "Barbie and Ken fakes" ;) - true - you'll find several attacks in these forums! Being (lightly) in the swinging lifestyle has driven both of us to continue to improve ourselves so that we can be the best we can for each other and for our friends. To answer the question: Is life easier after our beauty make-overs? Not really but it's certainly way more rewarding and fun.
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm not sure why this is being talked about, when the only thing people are attracted to is 100% how you look and being with a woman means everything to a man obviously life is usually going to be devastating if you're not attractive Even if you are average looking life is going to be hard, I'm average looking other and I haven't had even one sign in my entire life that a woman has been even slightly interested in me and people that say having a good personality or being funny, intelligent etc actually means something are living in a fantasy land, we all know that these things mean nothing The only upside to being unattractive and therefore suffering is that it can make you wiser and more sympathetic and basically a better person but then again that can't be true with most people because obviously there aren't many good people in the world and the numbers don't add up Also I don't understand the person that said women like white Australian American etc men more than others, I'm positive they are last behind Latino Mediterranean Asian and even black men and non white women generally dislike white men even more so
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RHP User
7 years ago
There is no beauty like a kind heart. Some people are housed inside hot bodies and they're so ugly. Patience, tolerance, respect, kindness and empathy are attributes indicitive of true beauty. My quest is always to find the diamonds in rough.
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
Quoting 'Mollymoet' I'm not sure why this is being talked about, when the only thing people are attracted to is 100% how you look and being with a woman means everything to a man obviously life is usually going to be devastating if you're not attractive Even if you are average looking life is going to be hard, I'm average looking other and I haven't had even one sign in my entire life that a woman has been even slightly interested in me and people that say having a good personality or being funny, intelligent etc actually means something are living in a fantasy land, we all know that these things mean nothing The only upside to being unattractive and therefore suffering is that it can make you wiser and more sympathetic and basically a better person but then again that can't be true with most people because obviously there aren't many good people in the world and the numbers don't add up Also I don't understand the person that said women like white Australian American etc men more than others, I'm positive they are last behind Latino Mediterranean Asian and even black men and non white women generally dislike white men even more so TBH I think you are trolling..... but if not, this is just not logical.
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RHP User
7 years ago
??? I'm very curious to know which part is illogical and why, as usual I'm the only person on the entire thread saying something even slightly intelligent or truthful or isn't just plain gibberish and as usual somebody STILL has a problem with something I said 😅 Out of all of the illogical backwards wrong comments that are here someone singles out my one??? What is illogical and why? ☺
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Mollymoet' I'm not sure why this is being talked about, when the only thing people are attracted to is 100% how you look and being with a woman means everything to a man obviously life is usually going to be devastating if you're not attractive Even if you are average looking life is going to be hard, I'm average looking other and I haven't had even one sign in my entire life that a woman has been even slightly interested in me and people that say having a good personality or being funny, intelligent etc actually means something are living in a fantasy land, we all know that these things mean nothing The only upside to being unattractive and therefore suffering is that it can make you wiser and more sympathetic and basically a better person but then again that can't be true with most people because obviously there aren't many good people in the world and the numbers don't add up Also I don't understand the person that said women like white Australian American etc men more than others, I'm positive they are last behind Latino Mediterranean Asian and even black men and non white women generally dislike white men even more so I completely disagree and would prefer it if you wouldn't speak for me. I believe people having good characters means a lot. If this is really your reality than it sounds like a very negative and isolated one. I hope you will get to experience different. Everyone deserves to know there is a lot of good out there.
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
What Solitary is highlighting but also. It is illogical. If what you say is true that means that every person who is deemed "unattractive" (whatever that means) will live a miserable life. I'm sorry that you haven't found this for yourself but you can't just generalise and say that its the same for everyone when clearly it isn't? The whole race thing ? You are entitled to an opinion but you can't speak for everyone on what they do or don't like and what they find attractive? It's an individual experience. I mean TBH you look fine If you haven't found what you are looking for maybe you just haven't found it yet?
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RHP User
7 years ago
Mollymoet Two things I'd like to suggest: 1: RUOK? 2: Read up on Anne Frank. There's some really interesting insights/discussions about her prevailing optimism, hope and belief that most people are good people, in spite of her dire and deadly circumstances. Anne Frank was able to find the good in everything. There really are just a lot of people with a lot of different personalities, attitudes and beliefs. I know I am a solution finder when things go wrong, others might seek help, some might wallow, others might look for sympathy, some might retreat. I think you should do a self assessment and see then if you can't figure out why you're not attracting what you so desire. Good luck and I genuinely hope you are okay.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Mollymoet' ??? I'm very curious to know which part is illogical and why, as usual I'm the only person on the entire thread saying something even slightly intelligent or truthful or isn't just plain gibberish and as usual somebody STILL has a problem with something I said 😅 Out of all of the illogical backwards wrong comments that are here someone singles out my one??? What is illogical and why? ☺ That just isn't the truth from my point of view. There have been many facets of approach and this has been the ideal thread for it. That's why. The idea of negativity that 'beautiful people' can cop has been introduced multiple times. The idea of what constitutes a 'beautiful person' has been explored. Putting down everyone else's opinion doesn't make ours any the more relevant but it can garner unwelcome opinions in return. Hiya, Peachy, I should know...
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RHP User
7 years ago
So am I a bitter person all the time in life just because I stated 1 fact that was relevant to the thread topic?!? 😅🙇 The other part is true but, women much prefer a fake psychopathic personality over a normal or in other words unique one
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RHP User
7 years ago
None of us can say who you are in real life, because we can only judge you by your posts. Personally I have no time for fake psychopaths in my private life, though I'll admit I was with a narcissist for far too long. I'm not pretending to care, btw, I really do. I wish you all the best.
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