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Where to draw the line in MFM....
February 05 2014
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RHP User
12 years ago
Will let you know after Thursday night O:-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Actually... it was on a fishing trip.... (not of the Brokeback mountain type)... I had a MFM.... straight.... and the guy acted like such a fucking dickhead, that I decided to never do that again. That, and the fact it didnt really "fit" with my preferences and style. So my line is at the point where another guy wants "in". But his sister is free to ask
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erotictouch4u
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' And what makes me hold back is the thought that I might put him off his game if I reach around and grab him closer as we do all this? It's the right thing to do to grab his arse... But will that put him off? Hugs Gazpacho With her being the meat in the sandwhich Gaz, just whisper in her ear to do it as you grab her hips, or put your hands on hers then he won't feel your rough calluses. ET xox
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gazpacho
12 years ago
I've had my share of those encounters too. What I would look for are people who are naturally easy, in a Keith Carradine kind of way. Nobody enjoys anxt, stress, overly aggressive, pushy... Lovers. The word "lovers" doesn't fit in with those characteristics. Hugs Gazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
You shouldn't let one encounter put you off, you never know you may actually enjoy it if you gave it another try. But I understand how it isn't to everyone's taste.
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RHP User
12 years ago
In the handful of completely straight mfm threesomes I've had my impression is that guys are ok with MM contact of cock touching cock but nothing else, and only if it happens because you happen to be in the same place at the same time (eg the lovely ladies mouth... Or wherever else). I think once you cross that boundary of male initiated MM contact most purely straight fellas wouldn't be too pleased. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Has left me feeling hot and bothered (in a good way) - Posted from rhpmobile
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justforthefun44
12 years ago
We like to have mfm sessions they are hot my partner likesa to watch me suck all her juices from a hard cock and him do the same we like to share cocks. we also like mff. We make our rules before a meeting everyone know what is open and what is closed they are only a couple of rules we have. I would hate it if I had to thing before I moved my hand.
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RHP User
12 years ago
You could start by asking everyone's number on the 'Kinsey Scale'. I would be surprised if any male really into MFM would be a 0 (exclusively heterosexual... in the mind as well as the body). Sexuality is not black or white, and the 'line' in a MFM will shift based on each individual's line of comfort and the 'heat of the moment'. Its best to be honest, open, discuss boundaries, and be open to try what feels good... and don't do what does not feel good. There is some good discussion on this topic on 'Fuck Yeah! Friendly Fire' (as well as some hot heterosexual straightish porn).
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RHP User
12 years ago
But you've got me thinking...
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madotara69
12 years ago
Gaspacho, surely points his directions to group play, even open play and to the bi affections within men. When something such as this comes to a couple in love and it's meanings for sex play, then there is "love" that matters most. Any who think they know it all, think they are it, think others thoughts do not matter as it is their way or the highway? Would not trust them even for a moment with Tara, let alone share the thoughts to consider the teamwork a husband requires. Mado Tara xx
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'creampieladies' In the handful of completely straight mfm threesomes I've had my impression is that guys are ok with MM contact of cock touching cock but nothing else, and only if it happens because you happen to be in the same place at the same time (eg the lovely ladies mouth... Or wherever else). I think once you cross that boundary of male initiated MM contact most purely straight fellas wouldn't be too pleased. - Posted from rhpmobile Took me a second look... I thought you were a couple of dirty girls going by the handle.. lol. I can't see your profile pic as Im a guest. Your experience is exactly the same as mine with straight guys.. but I was a lot younger then... I think people loosen up to the idea and get less intimidated after a while. Look at a game of forty or soccer... nobody thinks twice about slapping a dude on the arse in celebration.... why is a mfm any different? Oh so cautious behaviour, is my experience, so as not to make the there guy feel uncomfortable. Damn it.. this approach makes ME uncomfortable. Rooting on egg shells... lol. How are you supposed to just let go and cum in that situation? Eagertongue4u is right of course, I can just stick my hands on her butt and her boobs and so on... but this means that grabbing his dick while his hands are full and teasing her buttonhole with it is probably out of the picture. So many opportunities gone. lol. I'll just have to use mine.. seems a shame. :p HugsGazpacho
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'perthfectcouple' You could start by asking everyone's number on the 'Kinsey Scale'. I would be surprised if any male really into MFM would be a 0 (exclusively heterosexual... in the mind as well as the body). Sexuality is not black or white, and the 'line' in a MFM will shift based on each individual's line of comfort and the 'heat of the moment'. Its best to be honest, open, discuss boundaries, and be open to try what feels good... and don't do what does not feel good. There is some good discussion on this topic on 'Fuck Yeah! Friendly Fire' (as well as some hot heterosexual straightish porn). Trouble with Kinsey Scale is that we all have our sexuality that can be measured on the kinsey scale, but then we have our sexual identity.... you know... what suits our self image... a guy who's self image is that of a 0 on Kinsey will say so, even if he doesn't mind getting sucked off in a glory hole... it's ok if you're just practicing for chicks... kind of thing. Furthermore you don't have to like the idea of having sex with men to get off on it. Many a tormented Christian who's sexuality is a 6 on the scale could attest to that fact. Furthermore, I wouldn't want to challenge someone's self image... whatever makes them happy.. it's not my business to test their sexuality. To your brilliant comments "be open to what feels good", and "don't do anything you feel uncomfortable doing".. I would add, don't have expectations, and if someone pushes your limit, let them know, in the friendliest possible terms. I'm not sure any of us can do much better than that. HugsGazpacho
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69'When something such as this comes to a couple in love and it's meanings for sex play, then there is "love" that matters most. Any who think they know it all, think they are it, think others thoughts do not matter as it is their way or the highway? Would not trust them even for a moment with Tara, let alone share the thoughts to consider the teamwork a husband requires. Mado Tara xx It's spot on that you say that. Inexperienced swinging single guys seem to get that all screwed up in their heads. For some reason they seem to take it upon themselves to think that they're in with a chance to steal the lady's heart just because they're getting in on a shag!! this couldn't be further form the truth. Typical couples who often swing are usually in a very tight relationship, where they discuss everything. I've been called "the fuck" by them. I mean.. the fuck's job is basically simple. Be charming, get nuded up, get involved, and help get the couple get off... be polite, then piss off. Lol. Could it be any simpler? I don't think so... but you get these guys who have demands and get haughty and forget their place in the scheme of things... ffs just piss off! Who needs attitude? lol. HugsGazpacho
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'justforthefun44' We like to have mfm sessions they are hot my partner likesa to watch me suck all her juices from a hard cock and him do the same we like to share cocks. we also like mff. We make our rules before a meeting everyone know what is open and what is closed they are only a couple of rules we have. I would hate it if I had to thing before I moved my hand. You know what Im talking about! wooohoo! Hawt sexy uninhibited loving'. HugsGazpacho
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madotara69
12 years ago
Starting to think that was seen and believed to be of jealousy and insecurities, not a good look in here, apparently. Our last post, you replied to in case.
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Nah you see it all the time. Single blokes running around getting all alpha male. It makes me laugh out loud, I tell you! Women don't pick up on it. They're usually oblivious.... So In those circumstances I usually say something like ... "My friend only likes to watch. She wants you on your knees sucking my dick but she is too shy to ask.... So how about it?" ... Makes me laugh. Mado you have to have fun, hey! :) Hugs Gazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
Talking to a lady friend about this subject she reminded me of several encounters we had with a transgender lady/man and whether that made my friend bi in the situation. Not that she cares as she is comfortable with her sexuality but in terms of classifying the situation was it MMF or FFM or should we just forget gender all together and just call it a threesome like in the good old days as MTF gets to many blank stares.
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RHP User
12 years ago
And the FFM where one or both the ladies are wearing strapons. There are many guys that love it but they don't want people to know because so many think that taking anything up the bum is "gay" Personally love it, gives the ladies an opportunity to find out that thrusting for extended periods of time is hard work. Come on girls, you call that a pounding.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho51' Nah you see it all the time. Single blokes running around getting all alpha male. It makes me laugh out loud, I tell you! Women don't pick up on it. They're usually oblivious.... So In those circumstances I usually say something like ... "My friend only likes to watch. She wants you on your knees sucking my dick but she is too shy to ask.... So how about it?" ... Makes me laugh. Mado you have to have fun, hey! :) Hugs Gazpacho What do you mean that the blokes go all alpha male?? What is it that we women are missing?? I am intrigued now. Can you please give an example.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes I agree using a strapon is hard work... but the hardest thing for me is to get the right angle, I know I joke about bringing my milking stool on dates but I really need it. I am 5 foot so bonking a 6 ft man with a strapon can be awkward. AND!!! Can I just say to all the men........ if you are watching a woman bonking someone with a strapon. Shut up! I don't want to hear all the tips, and telling me I am doing it wrong, and why don't I try this, blah blah blah. LOL
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RHP User
12 years ago
... youre all more than happy to tell me how to bloody drive...... lol
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'Bodacious_Tatas' Yes I agree using a strapon is hard work... but the hardest thing for me is to get the right angle, I know I joke about bringing my milking stool on dates but I really need it. I am 5 foot so bonking a 6 ft man with a strapon can be awkward. AND!!! Can I just say to all the men........ if you are watching a woman bonking someone with a strapon. Shut up! I don't want to hear all the tips, and telling me I am doing it wrong, and why don't I try this, blah blah blah. LOL I mentioned this elsewhere, and men do not often talk bout it... but there is a significant advantage in having a longer dick.... that is, it is easier to work the angles and move around for better purchase, without falling out of the whole you are filling. As a shorter nymph, if you choose a long strap-on, you will find it easier to drive without falling out and your reach improves, quite obviously... :) I like how guys will tell you how to fuck another guys butt, like they know what they're doing just because they have a dick... but have no experience at it. I think, broadly speaking, all butts are built the same but ever so slightly different to one another.. being just enough to mean you have to explore the individual to get it all working for you anyway. You're doing it wrong! lol. Oh gawd... that's enough of that.. am I bleeding? Oh Christ. You've stabbed me.... HugsGazpacho
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'Bodacious_Tatas'What do you mean that the blokes go all alpha male?? What is it that we women are missing?? I am intrigued now. Can you please give an example. I don't quite know how to explain it... its more of a feeling than an intellectual observation... but I'm sure it involves subtle positioning and posturing and niggling annoying as all fuck things that are said... In this respect guys will know what I mean by Alpha male behaviour... but women are too busy swishing their hair about and stuff... and never seem to notice... well, that's what I think anyways. HugsGazpacho
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' ... youre all more than happy to tell me how to bloody drive...... lol DG, would any of that change anything you contribute? But now you mention it in layman terms, if you had a decent co driver.... well things may be a little different. Maybe not Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes I get that. I know that men always seem to be oblivious to the female dynamics when it comes to groups situations- whether social or sexual.
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RHP User
12 years ago
A decent co driver has her hand on my cock at 110kmh and feeds me lollies every 5 minutes :D
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' A decent co driver has her hand on my cock at 110kmh and feeds me lollies every 5 minutes :D Yes, a nice gear stick can come in quite handy at times, that's for sure. The running engine and little bumps in the road can really liven things up, but what an uncomfortable way to have a threesome.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Twice in group situations there were women that took hold of my cock and just would not let go. One time one lady held it so long that I had to ask her to stop holding it so tightly as it was starting to hurt and get in the way of play. Both times the ladies were just there to watch.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am bewildered by men who want a MMF and are worried about touching the other guy. Just relax, enjoy, its more fun that way.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Honestly Spoctorwho, I think it's because they are scared they will like it. Touching a man or rubbing willies and that will make them less of a man or make them gay or something like that. It would seem from this thread that a man's idea of what makes a person bi-sexual is not as fluid as a woman's.
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gazpacho
12 years ago
That's hilarious. What about people who grab your dick and basically wear the skin off it. Ouch. Those tiny dick skin burns hurt like a bastard and put a guy out of action for days. Hold it, yes, hank it, yes please, but ffs spit on it and call it dirty names or something if you want to beat it up! Don't yank it dry until the skin peels off! It's not a fucking banana! :p Hugs Gazpacho :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
LOL Nothing worse than premature chaffing from an over enthusiastic player. Some inexperienced guys can do so much damage, "No teeth!" are words I will repeat too many times with some , or the girl lost in her own world getting close to cumming trying to create fire with your wood in her hand.. Ouch
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madotara69
12 years ago
between pleasure and pain Fuck, you fellows really work for the title, no doubt about it, can't call you selfish. he he Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Wow... Cold shower definitely needed after this thread guys!! I've had one MMF experience and it was all about me... the guys just wanted to please me and didn't really interact much with each other. In saying that... that was my first and only threesome, whereas these guys were definitely a lot more experienced and had had threesomes together with other women. So I think the boundaries for them were already defined. They had an experienced rhythm between them... they just seemed to take control and it was amazing. I don't think I've ever felt so turned on...every part of my body that could be stimulated...was constantly being caressed by a hand or a mouth. Mmmmm ok... well now that I've shared that... Ill go jump in the pool i think! :_) Thanks for Sharing guys! xoxo Cherry
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RHP User
12 years ago
We've had a number of MFM (and yes, MFM, not MMF) threesomes. Yes we're both straight. No, we have no latent bi tendancies. Our primary purpose is to give pleasure to our guest, and in so doing, gain personal (individual) pleasure. No, we don't do DP. Yes, the odd accidental brush may occur, but there's no going back for a second or a third "accidental brush". Yes, it means our mfms tend to be more of the spitroast variety, or one of us will sit back and watch, with hands, and tongue roaming on her....just not getting too close to the action. I really don't understand how a guy can call himself straight, yet is prepared to suck a cock, or have his cock sucked. IMHO it is clearly a bi experience. Even the concept of 2 cocks rubbing together in DP is, at least in my view, bi. I don't have anything against it or those who do it, it's just not my cup of tea. To answer the posted question, if I was in a "straight" mfm with another guy, and he tried to do anything of a sexual nature to me, that would be the end of it. If he is lucky, he might get a first and final warning. If everyone knows it's a straight mfm, there should be no attempt on his part to push the boundary.
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cnb68
12 years ago
We have been doing MFM regularly for the past 14 years, we are both straight, never had any of the problems with Bi guy's, we make it quite clear on our profile that we are straight and if any guy came along that worked for us then we make it clear that it is all about the lady, being straight doesn't mean you have to be uptight about inadvertent touching, and if you "Cross Swords" as was stated, then you probably will be safe and not turn gay or bi because of it, Honest!!, any encounter has its boundaries even in a non swinging environment - I have never been asked to suck a guy and wouldn't, never been offered or approached for sex on the MM side, and have no interest in it, a polite "No - Not for me" is all it would need. From my wife's point of view the bi guy thing does not interest her either, its all about having both guys pleasuring her at the same time and individually, all the attention on her and making sure she is totally and utterly sated sexually, if that is the case then guess the guy's have done a good job! The main thing is in my opinion - know exactly what you want and need before you start, be honest - always, if the other guy is bi and has been honest about it, then either walk away or face up to your own sexuality and limits and deal with it!, At the end of the day we are all here for fun and pleasure - whatever form it takes. For me if my wife has a huge cheesy grin on her face at the end of a MFM Session then I for one am the happiest man alive Happy Swinging Chris n Julie
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Thanks... you're probably not the only two straight guys around but it's certainly interesting to hear your perspective. I've had plenty of threesome experiences as you've described it.... Spit roasting high fives and all, in fact, it's the normal behaviour for me when the other dude is straight... I'm curious about the comment you made if I was in a "straight" mfm with another guy, and he tried to do anything of a sexual nature to me In the context of my question. If I used your cock as a dildo to rub on her pussy... I'm obviously doing something of a sexual nature to her, using you as the instrument... you could pretend not to enjoy it... in which case, it would not be of a sexual nature to you... is it all about perspective? I mean, if, god forbid, I actually was straight, but didn't have any quarks about physical contact, would that still challenge your sexuality? I mean, the purpose of grabbing your dick and using it as a dildo is strictly for her pleasure.... it doesn't do anything for the heterosexual me. I mean, even for a bi man, doing that to you isn't for my benefit so much.,, as it is to hers, and yours.... I'm not saying people should push their sexual identity and the boundaries that sets. I'm all for people feeling comfortable and enjoying themselves. I'm simply trying to discuss where the boundaries lay. (obviously it's up to the individual where that is, but for the discussion it's useful to hear from individuals) It's certainly interesting anyway.... As for sucking dick or having your dick sucked by a guy, it's hard not to agree with your take on it. CheersGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
In this situation, MMF, there is going to be some touching or rubbing you would expect. If they are really scared of this then a MMF is not for them, a MMF does not mean you are bi for the male but they may choose to have some new experiences. We have had these and always found the best way is to set boundaries early and agree on them. If someone is not comfortable, it doesn't happen. We also had one male join us and all he really wanted to do was pound me then take off - no real experience or fun, we suspect back to his wife or girlfriend. My best advice - set the rules early and this works for almost all adventures and if it doesn't feel or seem right - you have the right to walk away. :))
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think if guys are willing to jump into bed with a couple or tag team a girl they already have bent the rules plus lets be serious.... If its fmf the girls are expected to touch and nothing is said lol except the guy cheering us on lol. But when its reversed to a mfm why cant the girl cheer the guys on lol ! I say guys relax and enjoy haha and dont be scared ... Its only a shot in the mouth bahaha gulp !! X - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think the thing that's exciting about mmf playtime is that in the right environment there is no lines! If it feels good and everyone is having fun, just let it all hang out so to speak and enjoy the moment! 3 way bi fun is def the way to play and 2 guys that are open to anything, then it will be sure be the experience of your life!! Lol, I'm worked up thinking about it!! Who wants to play!!?
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have, over several years experienced quite a few MFM, MFMM and so on. I don't consider myself as bi. But when playing in this environment I have sucked another guys cock and had my cock sucked. It wasn't ever the situation of seeking the guy out during hot sex sessions, but rather part of it. I draw the line at anal but have never really had it become an issue. Most of the oral I've been involved in is eating pussy while he is fucking her, sucking clit and cock or when he pulls out of her, on the bottom 69 while she is being fucked from behind, Or Clean up ………….that sort of thing. So for me its all in the moment, hot sex with people who are relaxed and just want to add pleasure. Most of the guys that have been involved in these hot sessions have a very similar attitude.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'ready4funtime' 3 way bi fun is def the way to play and 2 guys that are open to anything, then it will be sure be the experience of your life!! This has been at the top of my fucket list for awhile now...come on sex gods bring it on!!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Whats the issue? Don't knock till ya try it I say hahahaha Pity guys who don't as best feeling... Just saying ;)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Nailed it for me. (Not nailed me!) Incidental contact will always happen in MFM, and always has in all the ones I've been a part of. MFM for me has been, is and always will be about the lady. Teamwork is required, and playing the alpha male (although I am one) runs a distant second to pleasuring and filling the lady up. I've never been asked to, or asked for anything other than the contact between MM necessary to make the lady explode with pleasure. I'm not rabidly against it, but I'm just not in that headspace.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Do guys prefer watching hot sexy men with huge cocks debauching women in porno's ,or fat flabby guys with 2 inch weeners? Does that make you bi? If your at a party with not enough women and a guy is happy to suck on you while you wait your turn, does that make you bi? If your enjoying a couple and he tuggs on your balls while your fucking his wife, and you love it so much that you explode, does that make you bi? Years ago on remote mine sites and in the Navy, "Strait" men would play group wanking games. Is that bi? I don't know. Who cares. I'm bi and I love it. So if it feels good then just close your eyes and enjoy it. If your not happy about being naked with another man or being touched, then don't ask to share his wife.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I can't wait for my first experience with a couple.... I don't think penetration would ever just happen and it's always going to be discussed. pretty sure that's not for me at this stage....as for the rest i'd say it's all go unless otherwise stated.. I can't wait to suck a cock covered in pussy... Imagine having a pash with a gorgeous girl with a nice fat cock in the middle...then share a big load of cum.... The female in the situation is what makes it though and that I think that is the defined line between bi curious and bi or gay... I really think I will enjoy a cock with some pussy around but find it hard to imagine touching a guy otherwise....Strange or normal?????
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Quoting 'jimmybebad' I can't wait for my first experience with a couple.... I don't think penetration would ever just happen and it's always going to be discussed. pretty sure that's not for me at this stage....as for the rest i'd say it's all go unless otherwise stated.. I can't wait to suck a cock covered in pussy... Imagine having a pash with a gorgeous girl with a nice fat cock in the middle...then share a big load of cum.... The female in the situation is what makes it though and that I think that is the defined line between bi curious and bi or gay... I really think I will enjoy a cock with some pussy around but find it hard to imagine touching a guy otherwise....Strange or normal????? See, this is what I mean. You're only doing it because of the twat involved... but the cock adds all of the extra spices, secret herbs and finger licking deliciousness of the whole scenario. Jimmybebad, you are not the only one that thinks like you do. really, if you abandon all the labels and just do what your dick and interests want you to in the situation, without having to hold back, it's a fucken ripper of a good time. HugsGazpacho
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RHP User
12 years ago
I would go all the way or continue and try anything if my misus is happy,, I want us both to have a threesome so we both get to play with another cock,,, I even been asking her if she want a casual for a while,, - Posted from rhpmobile
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