M42
Women who expect you to pay for everything?
December 20 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
A women bashing thread! Haven't seen one of those in a while..Ritmo... wrong. I would never allow a man to pick me up from my house on a first date.
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RHP User
12 years ago
fine, do you expect him to:get the tab?pay for the hotel? I thought we live in non sex discrimination world. I sure they girl will have plenty of guys willing to do that for her!
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RHP User
12 years ago
is because you aren't married or attached...the OP it appears, is not interested in single women....perhaps if he was, he would not have to whine.... The devil is indeed in the detail OP
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't understand the correlation between women losing something during sex and the women expecting a man to pay? What are you trying to say? I do feel that sometimes a bloke may think that just because he pays for a night out he should get sex in return.... Or is that an old stereotype? I let a man pay for the first date because it is tradition, however I do feel a bit uncomfortable about it, but I am quite independent and always like to pay my own way. If I asked a man out I would feel that I should pay for the night. With regulars lovers I insist on taking turns to pay for nights out.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Strong negative reaction from the ladies there. Although I have skimmed the profile and I didn't see any mention of preferring married women?
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On_Safari
12 years ago
You're dating the wrong women hence the attitude. I drive myself so I can leave when I choose. I stay for a minimum 2 drinks so I can repay a shout and to give you a fair chance at gaining my interest further. I mean hey.....I agred to have a drink with you right. Dinner is always dutch and this is understood during negotiation. Ppffft pay for the hotel room...if this was going to be an issue we wouldn't be having dinner in the first place!! Driving me home....refer to my initial point above. Puhleeease!
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madotara69
12 years ago
You forgot to buy them some flowers. Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
Perhaps you should be shopping elsewhere. It always makes me laugh when men make these kinds of comments. Did you not choose to meet that person? What filtering methods did you have in place? Did you choose someone who gave the impression they were strong, confident, opinionated, self reliant? No? Then why be suprised that she expects you to treat her like a princess? If you are attracted to that type don't complain about the price tag that comes with it. Similarly, if you are attracted to a strong independent type don't be suprised or offended when she insists on going Dutch. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
That once you go Dutch you'll never go back... 😍 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
I was bought up its the guys role is to pick up, open doors , pays for dinner / drinks , find a place to chill, then drop her safely back home and there's still plenty that deserve that. But because of the ever increasing independent females who think it thats a nice way to be, I agree ' then let them pay their own way.. Personally '. I still prefer the feminine variety , much nicer all round.. You can tell when a female is out for a free ride compared to the ones who sincerely appreciate being treated like a lady... there is a difference..
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RHP User
12 years ago
Two different issues here: who pays? I always offer to pay, quite often a man will insist on paying and I will let him... Usually it's just men being galant, it's part of the wooing process. I don't get too caught up in it. I only go out to places that I can afford to pay for. I also stay for two drinks so that I can return the shout (unless of course he's thrown me over his shoulder, dragging me back to his mancave). Do women think they lose something through having sex... A very interesting question!! I do think that when you have sex with someone you give a little bit of yourself. It's an exchange... Not just physical but emotional too, it seems like it's an energy exchange at the least. Which is why, having sex when you don't really want to is so devastating. It's why, I think, prostitution is so frowned upon... A complex issue and I'm sure many will disagree.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'ritmofish' fine, do you expect him to:get the tab?pay for the hotel? Absolutely not. I'm appreciative of gallantry, but I'm also self-sufficient grown-up. not a princess. It seems maybe you're dating the wrong women like the others have said?.Meeks, the OP is looking to meet attached women only. I think that might have a lot to do with the it actually. To the married women you are a lovely distraction who will be everything their husband is not. I think they may be looking to be spoilt, as it's what they are missing at home (huge generalisation, I know).
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RHP User
12 years ago
I just don't understand the price coming into what is either a great evening of laughs n mutual company... If we need to check the bank balance then don't go... Always remember zero expectations of sex drinks dinner laughter n cost... Zero expectations
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RHP User
12 years ago
I can't afford to go to the meet n greet but I'm going anyway! How n y is simply I want to meet some people n ill just not drink but fuk I can still chat n laugh... It's called compromise
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RHP User
12 years ago
Often are not financially independent of their husband... Ie credit cards... How does she explain to hubby that $220 dollar charge to the travel lodge ? I'm sure that some women do feel that they are providing their pussy, therefore you can supply the room... But, I think the more experienced and independent that woman becomes, that she will realise the deeper pleasure in being an equal partner in the relationship... Buying drinks for a woman doesn't worry me... After all I want to get to know her... But I do enjoy the company of women who are my equal... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Do you expect a woman to have sex with you because you bought her dinner? Who wants to be anyone's obligation sex? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Does it maybe depend on how much is being spent? Expectation of fine dining, the pricey champagne, a 5 star hotel, while in OP's mind its more of a basic meal, mid range priced drinks, motel/3 star hotel or less.. because he wants to pay but wasnt expecting it would cost an arm and a leg and now is stuck footing the bill. Regarding the do women lose something through sex. It might be a case that some expect to be wined and dined for a taste of that pink, but I think if the woman chooses to have sex with the guy she's not losing anything. She chose to so she's made that decision to give herself I hope I made sense - Posted from rhpmobile
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd be happy to pay my own way....I'm an independent woman, and haven't relied on anyone for anything (including dinner/drinks/a lift home) in a long time. I have a close male friend (used to be with benefits but not anymore) and he likes to pay for dinner when we go out, but I always buy the drinks. (and we always have quite a few) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Paying for meals does not equal obligation to sex. I totally fine with that! It's just they say the want mutual respect and equal footing, yet still expects me to fork out for the bill. Which is contradictory of what they are saying! I was talking to my friends, and they said it's probably cheaper if you just went to a prostitute for the same amount of time!
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RHP User
12 years ago
If you're going to bitch about it, use a sex worker because then you are totally clear what the transaction is.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If the woman wants the prime specimen that is me....she needs to pay :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
OP's profile clearly states... women,couples,groups....who are18-65 attached.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Wow a bad attitude is a turn off. Why are you making play dates around dinner time? You could easily arrange them after dinner say around 8/9 pm or there is lunch time or in the morning? It sounds like you are offering the world then having a whinge ? If something isn't working for you, change it. I don't expect to be taken out for dinner like a lot of other ladies from here have also said. Are you offering to pay from the start ? You have no problem stating how you feel here about this subject so why not before you actually meet ? Then all parties involved know where they stand... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's much cheaper to pay for a prostitute and it sounds to me like that's probably what you should do.
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RHP User
12 years ago
$50 will get you so far.
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RHP User
12 years ago
There are lots of things that we can do together that don't involve dinner :) try putting some imagination into it. I have a sandcastle building meet up this week and it's going to be fun :) and casual. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
@ ritmofish..... it's not the cock, the body or the bucks that gets you laid. It's the ATTITUDE. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Surely , buying a Woman copious amounts of Grog can work in your favour ;) GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Exactly! - Posted from rhpmobile
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Tall74nHard9
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' That once you go Dutch you'll never go back... 😍 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... That is the impression that I try to provide hehe Tall
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RHP User
12 years ago
Some women follow equality and pay there own way.Yet some want it both ways the gent and equality.Some are not financial and would pay if they could.Some will take advantage of a man and use him.In most cases equality is a word and not the reality.Decide to be a gent no matter what and be a betterman for it.
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
I just as happy, to lick back with a beer, have a chat and a laugh....cost of 6pack $16 laughs/chat - priceless..... Don't need dinner, steak and 3 veg in every beer... Hehe - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Go Chevy !! Hp xobecause you're worth it...
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madotara69
12 years ago
That's the music in you Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
....exactly
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RHP User
12 years ago
Then I do assume he is paying, if he asks if he can have me for dinner then I assume I'm paying ........ It's all in the wording
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RHP User
12 years ago
Pay don't pay either way never whinge!! You will come off second best in a forum. You ask for the date then you set the tone, you set the vibe and if your fortunate you also get the experience. I for one will shout if I invited, fair is fair. They didn't have to agree and well they , the op will see whether your actually worth the effort. So if you don't want to pay, man up and say it, but never whinge, especially on here, you will never come out smelling like roses. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
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RHP User
12 years ago
Your dates sound like precious princesses. They probably are drop dead gorgeous with perky lil boobies and those ankle breaking heels. Real sparkly man handbags. They probably have a huge dose of Gen X 'me me it's all about me'. Do you really want to get in their knickers? If so, then cough up sweetie. If not, then grow some balls and tell them before the date that you're an equal opportunity tight arse. NB, please excuse the tone, I'm just being silly but you get the point.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Are you of the opinion that if you date a female she should have sex with you? What happened to dating someone because you like her and enjoy her company. Is that all you want, sex? Sounds like you are worse than the women you are whinging about. Jmo.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Bahahaha equal opportunity tight arse hahaha Fancy a romantic dinner for two at maccas?? :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
12 years ago
I have lost count of the number of times I've offered to shout a "Happy Meal" ROLMFAO 😳 but seriously I have.....I even ask if they prefer nuggets or cheeseburger. And a trip to the car wash cos I like to take my men to all the best places!! 😃 Jay_Me I do love it when a gentleman opens doors or pulls my chair for me to sit at dinner, it's mannerly and gentlemanly to do so, that OP costs absolutely nothing. And I will add (huge generalisation) but the majority of men on this site OP do expect sex from the ladies here due to the nature of the site I'll let you in on a secret though.......(crooks fingers, come a little bit closer, yeeesssss that's it SLAP upside the head) WE AREN'T OBLIGATED TO FUCK ANY OF YOU SIMPLY BECAUSE THE WOMEN YOU MEET HERE ARE ON A SEX SITE!! And yes I lose somethng everytime I give of my body to a man, because I make love to every inch of that lucky bastard's body. What do I get out of it aside from the satisfaction of a job well done? Longer term mutually beneficial friends with benefits and deeper, meaningful, awesome, connected, fulfilling, orgasmic sexual relations (or in your terms repeat business mate!). So change the attitude, broaden your horizons and develop some R E S P E C T. Flustered by the number of men recently who think this site is a free for all. I wonder if men feel used if they're treated like 'fuck fodder'? Sry Mado (big broad loving smile) another lengthy bit of twaddle. OP I think your heart's in the right place but stop trying so hard, be a gentleman, don't gripe when/if you get stiffed with the bill and treat the women here like you would any other girls/ladies you met in real life.....I'm sure the ones worth having will make it known to you if you progress to the 2nd dinner date. Here's another tip for free: Stayers and Players, Players fck off if they don't get into your pants pretty much straight away because it means they have to put in some effort, they want a quick fuck and nearly any hole will do. Stayer's will take their time knowing a slow dance always yields better results. I love a slow dance......don't you?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sometimes a Scottish restaurant might be the right place to take that special someone... You gotta match the hatch sometimes... 🐠 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
To me if he asks you out - the first shout for a drink is fair enough to expect. If I am attracted to him and he is good company - I host on the next meeting. I have found many men are actually cheap skates - I recall a man who expected me to drive to the other side of town as it was more convenient for him. I went - he ordered an OJ as did I and only put $4 on the counter. After chatting for a while - I decided it was a no. He walked me to my car and expected me to give him a lift home...WOW!!! So yes perhaps there are women who expect to be wined and dined before they "let you take them to bed" but believe me there are some real winners in the male camp too.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I shared a fantastic first meet with a lady....erm....woman from here at the crossroads hotel in Sydney. Given I was in the truck, she picked me up, I think I paid for the food and drinks, and she grabbed the cost of the motel room.... And....well....I believe we had a great time.... You give a little, you get a little... It's not about the sex it's about enjoying the person. I'd shout my mates so why not a woman?? After all friendship is priceless :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is this not a swingers sex site? meet and greet should be exiting, invigorating and can be daunting to new comers like myself. Do you worry about how much money you spend on your favourite hobby? No of coarse not you do it because you enjoy it. People shouldn't be so demanding and just enjoy the company of others.... In saying that there are a lot of demanding, cunning, scheming cheapskates out there both men, women and couples..... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Caramel sundae for me please! :p unfortunately there are always noisy kids around and no alcohol! Seriously though.. Doesn't it depend on the financial situation of both of you at that point in time? I've had some lovely guys take me out to beautiful dinners and pay and expect nothing of it.. And they have stayed my really good friends and I have had other lovely guys that split the bill or I pay for and expect nothing from it and they are still my really good friends... Must admit it does turn me on and make me feel all girly when the guy/girl/ts pays though lol :D Xxviolet
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RHP User
12 years ago
Many women see having casual sex as losing something, even if they may not realise it. Socially, men having nothing to lose having a casual encounter, actually quite the opposite right? WOO you got laaaaid aww yeah boi, you the MAN! Women who subscribe to pack mentality, believe that there's something to lose by having casual sex, that may be her reputation, her future opportunities (I know men who won't date women who've slept with more than a certain number of men, thankfully I think these dickheads can DIAF, but many women still want to be the object of their affections), her career options even. I think this drives the dynamic where women feel like they have to get something from a man before they give it up. Hence the demand for men to pay. Did somebody say HAPPY MEAL?!?! My hangover wants.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If I "invite", then I expect to pay.However, I have come across a couple of women here on RHP who led me on to the stage I suggested a time and place to get together, only to be be asked for $$$$$$$ for their airfare etc.This is a DATING site, if I want to find a brothel they are advertised in the local paper.
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Yup what she said too...and yes SirLurk, friends are simply people you haven't met yet :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
I agree that it should be who ever asks who out first should pay. But let's be realistic here, which sex usually takes the first step of asking the other out ? If women were approaching men at the same rate, then the "who pay's" debate will even out over time. If I ask a woman out I have no problem paying, but what shits me no end is if I am taking out a woman who expects to be asked out, taken out, paid for because she is a woman and I am the man, then PLEASE do NOT sit there all night talking about equality. But maybe if men sat back a bit more and at least altered our approach, then maybe things might improve. Maybe if women got more active in making the first move, men might not come across as so desperate and not have a need to appear so desperate, then things might improve. Maybe instead of arguing about one sex earning a fraction more than the other sex, we should all sign individual contracts based on experience, or potential, and maybe things will improve. But while we play the blame game every day trying to achieve a never truly attainable Utopia of equality, then the debate will just keep going on and on. How can a world of individuals ever truly achieve equality when at no stage of human existence has it ever existed ?How can the rules of society that at one time claimed we have different roles depending on our gender, but then change the rules almost overnight and expect everything to just make a smooth transition. Or..........the whole shift was just yet another classic example of turning us against each other in their age old game [which never fails] of Divide and Conquer. The same people that created the image of the "happy home" then turns around and says screw the happy home, now we want to do everything possible to disrupt the happy home. And then that's where we come in and play their game, just like good pawns always do :) Is a man with the traditional views of having a clear role now wrong for still believing what he was told to believe was right ? Is a woman with the traditional views now harming the feminist agenda or cause by being happy to accept a role that she was told was right to accept ?Is a man who believes in equality entitled to look down upon a man who still believes his role is the bread winner and class him as some pre-historic caveman ?Is a woman that believes in equality entitled to look down upon a woman with more traditional views and accuse them of holding women's rights back ? Instead of constantly arguing amongst ourselves, we ALL should be focusing more on just who makes these unofficial rule changes in society, and how they then use their media outlets and influence to them promote these agenda's. How they then use their political influence to enact the agenda into law. They create the problem, they then gauge the public response, and then come forth with the magical solution [that is written and ready to go BEFORE the problem has been activated]. It's the classic game of PROBLEM>REACTION>SOLUTION. Just picture it if you don't believe me..............a unified society fighting against a common enemy is almost impossible to defeat, BUT, a society split in 2 under the banner of Divide and Conquer is a society at your fingertips and mercy.They have been playing this game against us for a lot longer then we have been turning on ourselves. They know how we think a lot better than how we think they think. There is good and bad in both male and female. Reward the good with friendship and trust, but punish the bad with no trust and no friendship. But apart from that, keep your eyes, and minds, focused on the cause of the real problem and why THEY do it. If you can't do this, then you'll just continue to contribute to the very problems you complain about ! End of rant :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sorry, but I have to defend the ladies here. At the Sydney get together earlier in the year, not one of the ladies asked anyone to pay for their drinks. There was one of the ladies who even bought a round of shots for everyone. No hotel rooms paid for, no meals, not even a gift. Oh and it was the ladies who bought the red balloons and did all the organising. It hurts to admit it, but the ladies on RHP aren't the cheapskates that some of us men are. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
ive always been of the mindset ,,,,,,,,,that chick pays for drinks n guy pays for dinner ,,,,,,,any how ,,,i prefure a guy that will make up a picnic basket ,,,,,,,,bring a bottle off wine ,,,and take me to the beach on a warm evening for a date ,,,,,not that expensive n a lot more romantic to me ,,,,,,,,xxxxx catherine
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RHP User
12 years ago
Sounds like you are a tight ass and had to many knock backs
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RHP User
12 years ago
I thought internet dating/hooking up 101 was don't go out for dinner - meet for drinks or coffee first? The latter can be extended to include dinner/a meal whereas the former can't be shortened without causing a fuss. I can't say I've met anybody like this. Perhaps if female graduates weren't short-changed by $10k their first year out of university they would be happier to contribute the $ ? Don't talk to me about equality and feminism until you've taken the time to actually learn what the words mean. Quoting 'ritmofish' Paying for meals does not equal obligation to sex. I totally fine with that! It's just they say the want mutual respect and equal footing, yet still expects me to fork out for the bill. Which is contradictory of what they are saying! I was talking to my friends, and they said it's probably cheaper if you just went to a prostitute for the same amount of time!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting '181browny' Sorry, but I have to defend the ladies here. At the Sydney get together earlier in the year, not one of the ladies asked anyone to pay for their drinks. Having said that, some of the gents were more than generous too though, and the Champagne flowed freely. .Really, if a man is raised to treat a woman like a lady, including picking up the tabs like Jay_me said, I'm genuinely appreciative of that. And like Chev mentioned, I'm sometimes not in a financial position to pay much.But I'm also a born and raised Dutchy (Thanks HP) and was raised to go halves. I met a lovely man once who said his parents would disown him if the found out I'd had to pay for anything. It gave him genuine pleasure to pay. It's not something I will ever ask for, expect or take for granted though.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' @ ritmofish..... it's not the cock, the body or the bucks that gets you laid. It's the ATTITUDE. - Posted from rhpmobile EXACTLY...If u get that right no one would even remember who paid you would be too busy getting freaky ;)
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RHP User
12 years ago
thats dumb,I go dutch or dont go, I never get picked up at home, NO WAY 'THATS DUMBER
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't think women feel they need to get something, as in a paid night out, before "giving it up" It is a respect thing. If a man asks you out, and pays for dinner and acts like a gentleman than he is a respectful person and the perception is that he will respect the woman before and after the fact. Blokes who just want a wham bam don't really see the woman as an individual. They are just someone to fuck, they could be anyone really. And who the hell wants that?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'InarasaurusRex' I thought internet dating/hooking up 101 was don't go out for dinner - meet for drinks or coffee first? Same. But I don't think the OP mentioned he was talking about first dates.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'WildSong' If you're going to bitch about it, use a sex worker because then you are totally clear what the transaction is. Please don't use logic when discussing should an idiotic subject, lol! I totally agree if the intent to pay of everything is to get sex, go pay directly for it. If the intent to pay is because you were brought up not drag up then its a given that the natural course is a few meets, lunch and then dinner where if your a half decent guy you pay. I get the shits when discussions like these get up because they suggest that aussie blokes are arseholes, when most of use are decent and like to show a bit of chivalry
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RHP User
12 years ago
Always with the comments this is a swingers site, this site is just for hook ups, who should really show anyone any respect?? FFS shits me to tears. This site is different things to different people and it's ppl making those comments who are really limited and usually boring when it come to the RHP experience. Boring zzzzzzz
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RHP User
12 years ago
PMSL Thanks for your profile... Love it 👍 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
I would have no problems with that paying for the date, Its the way its should be, The only way a gentleman would do things
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RHP User
12 years ago
What is worse are the men (and I hear about this all the time) who buy a couple of drinks and a bite to eat and expect to get something because of it. You know, because red hot pie is the stalking ground for low cost, low self-esteem hookers...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'matt31surf' Is this not a swingers sex site? When you go to log into this site, have you looked at those big words on the front page?? "Hot online DATING and social networking"
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RHP User
12 years ago
What a horrible and disgusting outlook, good luck finding someone who appreciates the real you OP.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have one lover who always pays for EVERYTHING which initially made me feel guilty as he's a PHD student on scholarship, but he seems to think it's not right for the woman to pay so I just gave up and let him. I figure I compensate him enough by baking him things and bringing the odd bottle of expensive wine when we meet up. In my experience here (going on 10 years on and off) most guys are happy to pay for the date. I offer to pay/go dutch but the offer is almost always rejected. If however, you do happen to be a tight arse, I'd suggest looking for date options that cost little or are free (a day at the beach perhaps?) And just to stir up the pidgeons, there is still quite a bit of inequality between the sexes and paying for dates is one avenue that women seem to have an advantage... so just give us this one boys.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I've never had a problem buying a drink or two for a meet and greet, even if it goes nowhere... But beyind that it should really be a shared cost arangement... Whether on the night or taking turns... The exception is obviously if one party is already booked into a hotel for work or pleasure, then it's effectively their "home" and free of cost for the guest, but if a room is booked for the purpose of fun time then that really should be split, or cocontributed to at the least. Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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Dork_Doggler
12 years ago
Possibly two separate issues. I would prefer to think women (and us men) are gaining something when you meet with no expectations, whether things turn out well or you decide no thanks. Whether you decide to pay or not is ultimately up to you, and you should have accepted and be happy with that decision both before, and regardless of how the date turns out. It is inconsequential as to whether you get to meet somebody you actually like and get on with. Bye :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Are you serious? What a horrible outlook, even if meeting on RHP we aren't whores. I've never expected a male to pay. Often I would pay. Hotel room I don't know never done that unless invited back to one that was he was already occupying. Wow I'm astonished. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Get over guys! I have been on here less than 24 hours & have had at LEAST 6 guys contact me asking me to email them! I hadn't even had my pix approved! As if I'd ever want to meet someone like that. AND as long as women earn 33% + less on average than men in Australia for the SAME job, you can't talk about equality! Good luck with that stingy attitude! I hat e a cheapskate, especially when I'm so generous...
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RHP User
12 years ago
so where's the blogger? he's gone silent! probably counting his money.. tee hee - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
When I was single (the guy) Id never buy a girl drinks/gifts/dinner etc Unless it moved to dating, then things are different. This way, I didn't become the usual lapdog guys who think buying a girl a drink helps their chances. And , helped rid me of of scabby girls who think guys are free drink tickets. saves lots of wasted time and money :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'AdventureTime' When I was single (the guy) Id never buy a girl drinks/gifts/dinner etc Unless it moved to dating, then things are different. This way, I didn't become the usual lapdog guys who think buying a girl a drink helps their chances. And , helped rid me of of scabby girls who think guys are free drink tickets. saves lots of wasted time and money :) So basically you were expecting the women to pay for everything, for the privilege of having sex with you? I'll bet that attitude weeded out a lot more than just the 'scabby' girls.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I expect to pay my own way and I am more than happy to drive to or cover costs my selfishness comes from not having available free time to travel. I have found that the older the guy is on here the harder they find it to get replies and meets and feel as though they need to offer more to seem more appealing. Not very fair from my point of veiw. - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
12 years ago
"They"... for a start, suggests this happens regularly for you OP. (expecting you to pay and run around for "them") "They"... also suggests that it happens regularly "they" are left feeling as "they" have lost something by giving it to you during sex ? "They"...gives the impression that you have a vast of experience, giving numbers of women have displayed the behaviour, in order to class them as "They". So, I do get it... that "They" all must be costing you a fortune, along with wear and tear to your car and selfish "They" are for wasting some of your valued time, to what you may consider important to things that mean more to you, than "Them". What I don't get... Is if this echoing charm of yours, "They" all see and find "Themselves" giving that special thing "They" give to a man during sex! What is it that "They" all express, to give you such a broad outlook, to "Them" feeling as something was lost when given to you? You must be very intuitive and focused, to have "been" so in touch to all "those" ladies. I just don't see it where as, the cost of things is what "really" is bothering you. Taken that your post relates to the RHP meets, none of "They" (sorry ladies) seem to feel the need to honour a response, in support to these feelings you are taking this time for. (to Them) Some things I just don't seem to get a grip on, it can be confusing at the best of times. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
you seemed to have read that wrong Dragon..I never pay for free drinks to girls who just expect it....On dates we split the costs... Where did I say anything about expecting girls to pay for me.. I expect nothing from girls, but seems lots here think its ok to get free stuff from guys, And then complain when they expect something in return?? Ive never had trouble meeting nice girls, and avoided the free ride girls :)
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RHP User
12 years ago
I find it very difficult to NOT pay, it is an automatic response from me I do without thinking. When things were financially tight (thanks to the Ex) I would not contemplate going out on a date if I couldn't afford to pay, simple as that. Anyway, I have found that the women I date tend to reimburse me in other ways, the home cooked meal, hell one use to come over and iron my shirts whilst I cooked dinner (yep true, strange as hell lol). But then I still do the stupid things like open doors, give up my seat on the train and the like - and have been abused and belittled by strangers for doing it. The good thing is I will continue to do those acts, it is built into me, I just do them without thinking most of the time. Mooka (one seriously old fart apparently)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Took from your post Adventure time... That you shared costs, rather than just wave cash around... And yes there is shrinking minority of women who do expect men to provide drinks, dinners etc... Hp xo 💌 Festive fornications to all my loved ones 💋
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RHP User
12 years ago
I still like to be treated like a lady. I like to have a car door opened for me, to be taken out for dinner, etc. I will happily pay for my share at dinner, or take turns paying, but then it needs to be discussed 1st, to make sure we go somewhere that suits both our budgets. But if you are travelling from out of town to see me, or need to meet at a hotel, I will not pay towards a hotel room as that would be your choice, not mine. That's one of the reasons why I stay away from attached men, or anyone who lives far away.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I would never took advantage of man/men just becouse i am a lady , when i go out i like to play fair everytime...i could guessed how much they have spent and i will equalized that or even sometimes i will paid or spent more than my date for the reasons , i tended to date them young so as we are all know lots young boyz dont make much money , but some of my dates are also young and made lots of money and they will spoit me rotten too which is i am grateful for that ( how can i not , young ,handsome, fit and treated me like a princess, woo hoo ! ) and sometimes i felt guilty too still tho'...when i do go out on date i will always do the same routines and the boyz likes my routines ,they like what i like so thats perfect , yes it is costly nite but what the hell we only gonna live once..and i will spend my money on any boyz who deserved that ...and i dont care it is only money and i can afford it... so why not , and i am sure my boyz is thinking the same after all we are still spending time together when we have time to do it ...and if in anyway they felt i used them ,i am sure they will never be back and spending time with me again , i think the key to a successful date out without one feeling being taken for a ride is we all had to know how to appreciate the person infront of us thats all which is very simple really , we must know when to dig deep into our pocket to show them we care about them too ,and that we are not out to use them , we are out to have fun , to have Brilliant time together , to have a blast ...thats all i know, and thats how i operated ,and the boyz seems to agreed with me ... i guess i just know how to appreciated people and they can see that i am genuine and appreciative of them , and to be honest some guys are also very old fashion too, they refused your money or for you to pay, but i wont feel good about it if i am just sitting there being given everything , becoz i do feel good when i give / contribute too, so i guess give and take is Good for everyone , it made everyone feel appreciated and happy ...and look forward to the next meeting.
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RHP User
12 years ago
How nice is it a man who likes woman to be a woman :-) I do however think buying drinks and maybe paying for the meal another time is a nice thing also :-). I know lots will think me mad but sometimes I wish the days were back when men opened doors walked on the outside he he aren't I being silly now. Women's lib has its good side but very often the sad side too. :-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
And you know...... when a Man (capital M) does those little things without making a big deal of it....... opening a car door, hand in the small of her back to guide her safely across a road, offering his arm to her for stability if she's wearing heels..... ....she notices.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' hand in the small of her back to guide her safely across a road, ....she notices. If a (M)an I was with assumed that I am that helpless / stupid that I can't cross a road without his help, I would certainly notice. And never see him again .
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RHP User
12 years ago
Yes she does notice :-) and most women deep down love it when a man does little things for them :-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
PMSL @ LD .... It's a bit like the hand on the back of the head gently leading her down to the gag of her life. Hahaha
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RHP User
12 years ago
And yet..... I bet you complain if a guy doesn't show you he cares or that he is thoughtful/considerate. Are you smart enough to open a door... or pay for dinner? ;-) lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' And yet..... I bet you complain if a guy doesn't show you he cares or that he is thoughtful/considerate. Are you smart enough to open a door... or pay for dinner? ;-) lol There is a huge difference between being thoughtful and considerate (which both sexes can and should be), and being a patronising wanker who perpetuates the idea that women are fragile little creatures with equally fragile brains, who need 'looking after' lest they wander into incoming traffic like a stray puppy. If some women like that well that's their prerogative, but I'm not going to pretend I'm that helpless just to feed some insecure man's ego and outdated ideas about women. And yep, I have learned how to navigate doors by myself (gotta watch those automatic shopping centre doors though....they can be a bit tricky), and to pay my share. I tell you though, it was such a struggle to overcome that biological female urge to wait for my white knight to come along and do it alllll for me .
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RHP User
12 years ago
I put my hand in the small of my woman's back when we cross the road ? Because I love the feel of her... 😍😍 And perhaps a little like DG, I marvel at a woman's ability to teeter alongside of me somehow managing to keep upright in her high heels... 👠 And should I notice a potential trip hazard ahead in the underlying terrain... stair, kerb, ramp, wet/dry etc then I will offer my physical support to you... I guess the alternative would be to stand by and watch you slip, trip, stumble or fall... I bet that would go down real well... NOT. Hp xo 💌 Because you're not much good as a date if you've broken your neck being stubborn and independent...
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think a lot of time it's just a little game. We put on the helpless girl thing for the blokes.... As in our lovers... Maybe I just like that submissive game because I am not generally like that in my day to day life. But watch out if be says something I don't like!! I roar quite loudly for a 5ft chick in stiletto heels. Lol.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' I put my hand in the small of my woman's back when we cross the road ? Because I love the feel of her... 😍😍 And perhaps a little like DG, I marvel at a woman's ability to teeter alongside of me somehow managing to keep upright in her high heels... 👠 And should I notice a potential trip hazard ahead in the underlying terrain... stair, kerb, ramp, wet/dry etc then I will offer my physical support to you... I guess the alternative would be to stand by and watch you slip, trip, stumble or fall... I bet that would go down real well... NOT. Hp xo 💌 Because you're not much good as a date if you've broken your neck being stubborn and independent... If I'm wearing heels high enough that I'm at risk of falling over in them (an extremely rare thing for me), then I know I'm taking that risk. I'm not wearing them and expecting any man I'm with to compensate for my wardrobe choices and keep me upright. What if I'm not going out with a man? Am I expected to stay at home because there will be no man there to stop me from injuring myself? I'm not a 4 year old, and I'm not some delicate little flower that needs protection from the world and myself. I'm a grown-arse woman who makes choices and is aware that there is the potential for negative consequences from those choices. If I fall over, well that's my fault for wearing stupidly high shoes. And the insinuation that being female and being independent is a problem, is again insulting and patronising HP. I will clarify though that in my former comment I wasn't calling you a wanker specifically DG, it was a generalised comment and probably unnecessary. I know that many men - particularly those over a certain age - grew up surrounded by the promotion and reinforcement of certain stereotypical gender roles. And that they generally mean well, and that there are still women who like and expect that sort of treatment. But not all of us do, for our own valid reasons.
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Rob_Ally
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' I've never had a problem buying a drink or two for a meet and greet, even if it goes nowhere... But beyind that it should really be a shared cost arangement... Whether on the night or taking turns... The exception is obviously if one party is already booked into a hotel for work or pleasure, then it's effectively their "home" and free of cost for the guest, but if a room is booked for the purpose of fun time then that really should be split, or cocontributed to at the least. Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... When are you visiting Brisbane again
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RHP User
12 years ago
Would you attempt to prevent your bloke from slipping, tripping or falling ? Female and independent is not the problem... Being so independent that you rail at the prospect of giving up a smidgen of that independence, that is a problem... It's nothing to do with your fears of being a delicate little flower or any other twaddle... It's called caring for people... If we are walking along the promenade in Townsville after a night out, chatting away merrily, do I allow you to walk through that dog turd that you didn't notice but I did ? We approach the intersection of the strand and flinders st and I'm paying so much attention to you that I step off the kerb into the path of a car... You see the car, do you clutch my arm or let me meet my maker ?... Or do you push... 😈 I think it's insulting and patronizing in your mind... And with love and respect, I think you know what I mean... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Rob_Ally... Mr Google tells me if I leave now... 10:30am tomorrow morning.... 1740km... 💋💋💋😈😈😈🚀🚀🚀 Hp xo 💌 Because you're certainly worth it...
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On_Safari
12 years ago
I got what you meant and trust me I have heels higher than most men's standards on this site so when I come across a "gentleman" who is happy to take my hand/arm and hold me steady as we descend a staircase or a hill I'm more than happy to accept that small gentlemanly offering for what it is, good breeding, courtesy and a helping hand. FFS I'd rather someone help me than go boonty up and look like a right twat!! Mooka I do the same thing giving up a seat on the train, assisting someone elderly with their bags/disembarking and even assisting a lady travelling by plane with her toddler, pram and carry-on's a Brissy airport while she had her newborn to tend to. Seriously sometimes a helping hand is exactly that, a genuine nothing expected in return other than thank you kindness. I'm all for independance but Seriously ladies!!! Get off the women's lib shit and allow a guy to be a gentleman occassionally.
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Be made to feel delicate and cared for 😍 and I'm not about to give up my stilletoes for anyone grrrrr
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RHP User
12 years ago
Whenever I'm around Kings Cross with a man I'll grab his arm. Once, a date nearly got himself killed by crossing the street and not looking carefully enough, so I learned to hold on. So helpless and easily distracted they are.
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RHP User
12 years ago
That you get it mes... Us blokes only have enough blood to power one head at a time... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
My philosophy is to try and make things as fair as possible. I have been paying my own way since I turned 18; I will not let a guy pick me up from my house, if we go out to dinner, i will insist on paying for my share, if he insists on paying, then I insist on getting desert or paying the next time, and I do. But this has nothing to do with independence, I feel I work hard to earn a living and I assume the same for everyone I meet,so I try not to impose. Regarding hotel rooms, I have a place of my own and would only meet local guys that can host as well (only condition would be they host first). I have many reasons and explanations for this...but that's a whole topic on its own
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