M42
Women who expect you to pay for everything?
December 20 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Highpriority' Would you attempt to prevent your bloke from slipping, tripping or falling ? Female and independent is not the problem... Being so independent that you rail at the prospect of giving up a smidgen of that independence, that is a problem... It's nothing to do with your fears of being a delicate little flower or any other twaddle... It's called caring for people... If we are walking along the promenade in Townsville after a night out, chatting away merrily, do I allow you to walk through that dog turd that you didn't notice but I did ? We approach the intersection of the strand and flinders st and I'm paying so much attention to you that I step off the kerb into the path of a car... You see the car, do you clutch my arm or let me meet my maker ?... Or do you push... 😈 I think it's insulting and patronizing in your mind... And with love and respect, I think you know what I mean... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... I classify myself as an independent woman, but I am human first before anything. If I go out on a date with a guy (friend or otherwise) and they do little things for me such as hold my hand, or pull out a chair for me indeed I notice. Of course I don't expect these little things but the guy would score top marks in my books. HP, if I miss the dog turd, indeed its not saying I'm fragile, just human. but if you let me step on it, after you have spotted it before me......well, I'd have to say I would never talk to you again; only after I have clutched your arm to save you from stepping off the curb first though
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Love it!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Nat27' I have a place of my own and would only meet local guys that can host as well (only condition would be they host first). I have many reasons and explanations for this...but that's a whole topic on its own Please do!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'm tempted to....but I think I might be opening a whole can of worms
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RHP User
12 years ago
Basically there a couple of groups: 1. cheap bastard, you should be paying for the princess2. I'm independent, I want to pay my fair share3. appreciate if you do pay, not no necessary!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Nat27' I'm tempted to....but I think I might be opening a whole can of worms Please open the can of worms , I desperately need some entertainment
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ohh, we love worms here... 😋😋😋 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think its lovely when a man is considerate makes a woman appreciate them , there is nothing nicer than a caring man. I think men and women should compliment each other its not a race to see who is the stronger sex- well not for :-)
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On_Safari
12 years ago
My philosophy is to try and make things as fair as possible. I have been paying my own way since I turned 18; I will not let a guy pick me up from my house, if we go out to dinner, i will insist on paying for my share, if he insists on paying, then I insist on getting desert or paying the next time, and I do. But this has nothing to do with independence, I feel I work hard to earn a living and I assume the same for everyone I meet,so I try not to impose. Yup what she said 😃
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'I_N_D_A_G_I_N_E' I got what you meant and trust me I have heels higher than most men's standards on this site so when I come across a "gentleman" who is happy to take my hand/arm and hold me steady as we descend a staircase or a hill I'm more than happy to accept that small gentlemanly offering for what it is, good breeding, courtesy and a helping hand. FFS I'd rather someone help me than go boonty up and look like a right twat!! Mooka I do the same thing giving up a seat on the train, assisting someone elderly with their bags/disembarking and even assisting a lady travelling by plane with her toddler, pram and carry-on's a Brissy airport while she had her newborn to tend to. Seriously sometimes a helping hand is exactly that, a genuine nothing expected in return other than thank you kindness. I'm all for independance but Seriously ladies!!! Get off the women's lib shit and allow a guy to be a gentleman occassionally. Like like likety like.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I often pay for a guy's dinner. If I don't do that, I offer to put in my share. I pay for hotel rooms, and they are 5 star not cheap crap. I have paid my own way to fly to the USA for a 2 week booty call. I was also taken on a weekend sex fest and lo and behold the guy's credit card didn't work so I paid the $1500 cost. I think he was married and couldn't have the charge show on his credit card. I think I was taken advantage of. I think I offered to pay as I didn't want to be seen as one of those females who takes advantage of the situation to get free stuff.
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RHP User
12 years ago
All too funny. :-)
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1Featuredmember
12 years ago
Quoting 'Lovinit28' I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd be happy to pay my own way....I'm an independent woman, and haven't relied on anyone for anything (including dinner/drinks/a lift home) in a long time. I have a close male friend (used to be with benefits but not anymore) and he likes to pay for dinner when we go out, but I always buy the drinks. (and we always have quite a few) i love paying for dinner... the browse of the menu, what would you like? this looks nice ect gives me an idea of her pallet and wine taste plus checking out if she can use a fork . i love ordering a bloody good wine and her loving the choice....... and .... if the lady wants to buy me a quiet beer at the bar because the companies good and the meal was nice ........ bonus .............its not about the money .... jesus lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'ivannahumpalot' I was also taken on a weekend sex fest and lo and behold the guy's credit card didn't work so I paid the $1500 cost. I think he was married and couldn't have the charge show on his credit card. I think I was taken advantage of. I think I offered to pay as I didn't want to be seen as one of those females who takes advantage of the situation to get free stuff. You paid 1500 bucks so he wouldn't think less of you? After his own little stunt?
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RHP User
12 years ago
We pay one way or another .... bwahahha
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RHP User
12 years ago
Indy - it's not 'women's lib shit' for me. It's the fundamental way I think and operate. And it's not twaddle either HP. I will accept help - from either sex - where it is appropriate, if I really require the assistance. And I will offer help myself - again to either sex, if they really require it. It's called being a decent human being. There is a big difference between grabbing someone who is for some reason going to walk into incoming traffic, and making a prior assumumption that they need help to cross that street because of their gender. The first is being decent, the second is being patronising and sexist. That is the differentiation that I make in my head. So no sorry, I'm not going to accept the latter, unnecessary help from a man just to soothe his ego. And I am perfectly within my rights to make that choice without being put down for it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' And you know...... when a Man (capital M) does those little things without making a big deal of it....... opening a car door, hand in the small of her back to guide her safely across a road, offering his arm to her for stability if she's wearing heels..... ....she notices. This does not make a guy a MAN by they way, what ever that is supposed to mean.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ivana.... why would you do that? I don't go more than 15km to meet someone let alone across the other side of the world. I assume this was someone you already knew. Your husband must be very understanding.
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RHP User
12 years ago
How did you YOU explain the $1500 charge to your husband?!? Sometimes, people just baffle me!
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Apart from his flights we've split costs 50/50, as it should be; and if we don't hit it off (unlikely with the friendship we seem to have developed and because I'm DAMN PICKY TO BEGIN WITH!!) I can drive home feeling fine about it all and hope he still has a nice holiday. 😇 It's all in your perspective.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' And you know...... when a Man (capital M) does those little things without making a big deal of it....... opening a car door, hand in the small of her back to guide her safely across a road, offering his arm to her for stability if she's wearing heels..... ....she notices. This does not make a guy a MAN by they way, what ever that is supposed to mean. No.... but what does it make him compared to a guy who doesnt?
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On_Safari
12 years ago
"There is a big difference between grabbing someone who is for some reason going to walk into incoming traffic, and making a prior assumumption that they need help to cross that street because of their gender. The first is being decent, the second is being patronising and sexist. That is the differentiation that I make in my head. So no sorry, I'm not going to accept the latter, unnecessary help from a man just to soothe his ego. And I am perfectly within my rights to make that choice without being put down for it." But I wasn't putting you doen, sometimes it's nice to be made to feel "delicate", of course I would accept this from very few men and those few are incredibly special. My piint was simply that we frighten men these days with our aggression and independence. Is perhaps why younger generations are oblivious to chivalry, respect and charm...... Yes from one man I would find the "guiding me across a street" I am capable of negotiating on my own just as insulting as he would my changing a tyre on his car would possibly emasculate him. But in another scenario that guiding hand on my back from another man may just be an excuse to toych me and me wanting him to touch me, an opportunity to get closer and more intimate. That sane man might actually be proud his date can change a tyre on her own, check her fluids and monitor other performance parameters of both "machines". 😘 Me.
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madotara69
12 years ago
A couple of gentlemen from the traffic control, came to help her already half way through changing the tyre. They may have slowed her down a little, though she was accompanying to the help and allowed them to finish the job. As usual all chirpy and thankful. It makes me proud for all of that. Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ahhhhh Indy God luv ya. Once again you prove...... you get it X
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RHP User
12 years ago
I agree with Jay_Me. And its rather amusing to read the replies of all these women, lol at the reactions.Sure a girl wants to appear to be independent etc but seeing tell me something...when has a woman offered topay for the whole night instead of the guy???? %99.99 of all situations the man will pay and the woman loves that and takes advantage of it. Girls honestly in this situation you can't defend yourselves as it's reality andlooking at history there is endless proof, lol. NOW GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A MAN OUT FOR DINNER AND MOVIE AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING!!!
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madotara69
12 years ago
My idea too the Gentleman is; A gentleman first would be honoured to the company with a lady at invitation. (He finds her interesting and attractive) Partly to tradition and some dignity to treat a lady with courtesy. Expect to pay and anything if required to ensure that lady for all he can hope (at this stage) she finds the time enjoyable, some what comfortable. To pick up the lady and see she has a safe trip home if it be so. That is just paying respect and a sense to duty of care. It also is a way for a man to have some self worth to offer for gaining some trust. ( A big bad world lots of bad people hurt women) However at no point does the gentleman treat the lady with disrespect by not accepting her as an independent person, nor an idiot. He wants that from a lady, he wants her to be that interesting person and if his dreams come true, she will be that person to find a connection with intellect and common values to beliefs, maybe love, maybe just a moment. Offering to pay, escorting a lady and the courtesy whilst doing so, is a belief for honest intentions masculine for feminine. Not dominance over the lady. Dominance to her respect. A gentleman will allow the lady all the time as hers if for the time when sex may become the vibe? feelings perhaps. As a lady "is" giving something, it is permission. And a gentleman respects that it is the ladies choice for that to even begin with always. A gentleman will be courteous to all ladies (other than for reason to any particular) though will not approach into their personal space unless by the permission from the lady to the gesture what ever it may intale. He will offer his services if hazards are foreseen, a seat on the bus, a lady on a busy street showing anxiety or uncomfortable, same to children or elderly folk. It is just being alert and careful. A lady would do exactly the same for the same reasons, and this is no secret. Shouldn't be an argument. Nor should a gentleman be. If the girls are to immature to understand that, they should not taint the gentleman's place to the ladies. As a lady is held with the highest of regards and honoured to the respect as a person. That is to all for a lady, in the bedroom, in a restaurant, in a crowd of people, in her home, in her company. (a lady is the mother of us all) She can do whatever she wants and treated with the respects to those decisions, hoping they are for the better to a gentleman's future, is all. Maybe only to his memories and to hers. It appears there is less and less respectable gentlemen these days. That does not mean they should tolerate being disrespected to some lost hopes to the integrity for women to feel threatened, as part with it all. I am a gentleman, taught to be one and learned to be one.(Proud and honoured) And I have some decent lady friends and a decent wife and I won her permission. She is a friend and her own person, I care for her to love me, don't own her. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think the term "Gentleman" is completely outdated and these days, poorly defined. And we've pretty much completely lost a solid definition of the word "Lady". A person with good manners. This is really what we're talking about here, right? But then isn't that subjective too? Good manners in one household may be completely different to the next, and if we cross cultures all bets are off! Manners in today's world starts with open communication. Use it, fools!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad'Ahhhhh Indy God luv ya. Once again you prove...... you get it X Just because someone agrees with you, doesn't mean they get "it". They just get "you". Now be a Man and hold my hair back while I puke...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' And you know...... when a Man (capital M) does those little things without making a big deal of it....... opening a car door, hand in the small of her back to guide her safely across a road, offering his arm to her for stability if she's wearing heels..... ....she notices Quoting 'Meeka100' This does not make a guy a MAN by they way, what ever that is supposed to mean. Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' No.... but what does it make him compared to a guy who doesnt? It makes him a guy looking to get laid DG.... how many blokes seem to forget to do all those lovely considerate things once they get what they want or after they have known the woman for awhile. So you will have to forgive some of our cynicism. Instead of saying it's all crap and rubbish maybe some of you would like to look at it from the woman's side? I accept that DG and HP may be real gentleman but have think about how it may appear to the woman and how she feels about it. Some women will not like you doing some of these things as she views it as belittling or that you are marginalising her. Do you teat all women these way or only women you are sexually interested in? You open car doors and help children across the road.......... yet you can not understand that some women may feel that you are still treating her as a child? As someone who can not cope without your guidance and help. I think it is rude to not take a woman's feelings into consideration, so DG and HP for all your lovely gentlemanly ways you don't seem to be treating women as individuals. For shame, for shame.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If I put my hand in the small of a woman's back and she leaps into the air screaming "Get your goddamned filthy paws off me" (Charleton Heston style... 😄) Of course I'll respect your personal space. But what does it really say...? It says that we are on the wrong date... 😉 I can't say I've had many disappointments, so obviously I'm meeting my dates expectations of me... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Yes Ladies alot of men become thoughtless uncaring using PIGS after they get what they want, can't argue that ..... it's a fact!! (Sigh) I still enjoy a gentleman. My darling ex still opens doors for me, holds my chair if we eat out to seat me and does the hand in the small of my back too (moreso now that I'm leaving town) even after 14yrs together. My lover is the same after 18mths and had he not been we wouldn't have progressed much beyond the first few mindblowing shags. They look after my comfort and I theirs.....They would be foolish to think I was less independent or dangerously capable simply because I appreciate their constant thoughtfulness and regard for me. I may not be as experienced in the swing scene as most here BUT I won't lower my standards to accommodate anyone and I wouldn't expect them to less chivalrous even if just a passing fling. Class people, has nothing to do with cashflow, arrogance, belittling others or ego. Class is something we all have, it's just a shame some are too shallow, ignorant or plain scared to practice/use it. And you hit the nail on the head Mado, you love your Tara; respect her and most importantly understand that you don't own each other. And I think we are somewhat off topic.....
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RHP User
12 years ago
After discussing what a so called "Gentleman" is suppose to do...what do we get back for being nice...what is required from the "lady"??? Surely she has enough manners to give something different back to the gentleman...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sexy_swede' I agree with Jay_Me. And its rather amusing to read the replies of all these women, lol at the reactions.Sure a girl wants to appear to be independent etc but seeing tell me something...when has a woman offered topay for the whole night instead of the guy???? %99.99 of all situations the man will pay and the woman loves that and takes advantage of it. Girls honestly in this situation you can't defend yourselves as it's reality andlooking at history there is endless proof, lol. NOW GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A MAN OUT FOR DINNER AND MOVIE AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING!!! Yep I do, all the time actually. As for your endless proof, when you become a man and go out with women you can come back at lets us know your thoughts.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mado, and beautifully put too- now that I've worked out how to read your posts I'm really enjoying them. Like poetry.
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On_Safari
12 years ago
That's where this double-edged sword comes into play...would you have the woman reciprocate because she wants to, because she feel obligated to OR set up a 2nd date and settle for the fact she thinks you're a gentleman and worth spending more time with? Your last post would seem to indicate you EXPECT to get more than just a lovely evening out, laughing and enjoying someone's company. If I got that vibe from you, the bill would be split 50/50 and I wouldn't feel OBLIGATED to see you again let alone allow you the pleasure of my body. Interest killed. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sexy_swede' After discussing what a so called "Gentleman" is suppose to do...what do we get back for being nice...what is required from the "lady"??? Surely she has enough manners to give something different back to the gentleman... Tell paintme what you EXPECT for being nice. Expectations are dangerous things. And tell me ... what do you REQUIRE from the lady if you happen to pay for dinner. You, my dear have a voice that can casually ask "Shall we go dutch?" I think so far you have been dating young princesses with perky lil boobies and fabulous hairdos and huge credit card debts. Ah the problems faced by Gen Y's. *saunters off back to the over 40 crowd who know better ... * (I know that sounds condescending ... bite me. Please.)
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'CravingTouch' I think the term "Gentleman" is completely outdated and these days, poorly defined. And we've pretty much completely lost a solid definition of the word "Lady". A person with good manners. This is really what we're talking about here, right? But then isn't that subjective too? Good manners in one household may be completely different to the next, and if we cross cultures all bets are off! Manners in today's world starts with open communication. Use it, fools! No not right, manners are a behaviour and a Gentleman is a person. And I am right here in this today's world, so I don't know who we're is, don't seem to know them. If they are your friends then I think "they" (we're) are getting a little ahead of their selves, little rebels that's cool for a meaning or a cause, if original wow, there's something going on. You Know like give it to the "MAN" Remember Woodstock.? Maybe not. In the "Old today" women were liberated through music. Love songs and all the beauty women posses. How women feel hurt, how men feel hurt. The head games with broken relationships. Often men sang of wishing they could buy the world for a lady, or take her to the stars. It made the world see women as independent, sexy, loving, rebellious, wanted needed, respectable. (lady common to expression of beauty) Do you think really that these men who sang to the lady of the song, to the world, are not gentlemen. And do you think that A lady to the likes of Olivia newton John, or lets cross culture, Bonny Raitt, further... Aretha Franlklin, and so, these women, ladies were not treated with respect by the gentlemen, You can see that on youtube (todays world) Rod Stewart and Amy belle ( He would have paid for her dinner) One Night Only, I Don't Want to Talk About It. Bonny Raitt (would put up a fight for who pays). With the lineup for Jimmie Vaughan, A tribute to his brother Stevie Ray vaughan. Have a look at how the way Bonny is treated. Then tell me Gentlemen do not exist. If a gentleman invites you to dinner, you can expect he will pay for it. He would respect your decision to discuss the difference to that if you felt like being independent to that time and place. Either way you will be looking eye to eye as respectable people do, nothing less. So if it only comes down to money why not accept in good spirit to the manners from a guy who is with you and treated a little special. Boy, girl ,giggle, kiss. Maybe he might even get a root, you could root him if you want. Up to you? is really what we are talking about. How would you expect to be treated? You may think I am whacko, fair enough. In my house this world is a reality, it exists and so do the Ladies and gentlemen. It's the joys in life, not who the fuck is paying for it. Independence and equality is within the meanings for the manners. And a Gentleman will see you as meaning something as a person with a feminine appeal. woman, lady, pretty person, pretty please. Of course HP would be dry humping your leg, a matter of moments possibly a few minutes after laying eyes on you . But he would really really respectfully mean it. He is a Self confessed slut, in his house that seems to mean quite a lot for manners. Still a gentleman at any cost. Bound to find him somewhere in porn tube. Category; "Cheap slut gentile-men and dirty ideas, one at a time. Something like that. And I have left Tara out of this one, only for the chance you get cranky again, thinking I have no place for calling her a lady in today's world. ( kidding) It's a good conversation, "most" probably won't even read anyway. ( calm and riffing, I believe this to be) The feminine women lady people shouted out for men to write something what ever it was. So I just write whatever. This time is your time CravingTouch. You can only blame yourselves. Except Awesome, she has a gift for the music, I write in drum music LL RR LRLL RLRR LRLRRLRLL RLRLLRLRR (Parradiddles) THEN GET SIRI TO TELL YOU WHAT THE DRUMS HAVE SAID. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Oh FFS........ someone give me a dirty fuckker and lets go have some fun, I promise I wont let the door bang his arse on the way out.
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madotara69
12 years ago
You just had to go and bring Tara into it, didn't you. sweet little lady she is. Unless you meant HP ? the happy man slut he is.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'sexy_swede' I agree with Jay_Me. And its rather amusing to read the replies of all these women, lol at the reactions.Sure a girl wants to appear to be independent etc but seeing tell me something...when has a woman offered topay for the whole night instead of the guy???? %99.99 of all situations the man will pay and the woman loves that and takes advantage of it. Girls honestly in this situation you can't defend yourselves as it's reality andlooking at history there is endless proof, lol. NOW GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A MAN OUT FOR DINNER AND MOVIE AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING!!! Yep I do, all the time actually. As for your endless proof, when you become a man and go out with women you can come back at lets us know your thoughts. Haha, wow you must be in that %00.01 minority then cause in this world girls like you hardly exist. When I become a man? Haha well ever since I looked I have always been one, I suggest you go to specsavers or adjust your monitor resolution incase you can't read or see very well, *SNAP*. And no, don't think I will be sharing my thoughts with a crazy woman like yourself. Have a nice life, now I am hoping I do not have to waste my time on reply to such stupid statements ever again!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mado... you must smoke some good shit. That's all I a can say.
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madotara69
12 years ago
ritmofish The way you have written the OP (original post) I use to think some of these people meant Off the Planet, funny that. OK it's written like your seeing women as an idea. And a fuck is a fuck, why does it need to be a challenge, should just be plain and simple exchange nothing more nothing less. Why should a man put more effort in, and the idea that women all think it is expected. You can see what has gone on for that question. Touchy shit. What your question is missing is the thing we are all going on about. As CravingTouch pointed out communication. That in your case is leaning toward blaming women for a frustrating manner in your tone of question. (How it is meant?) And it feels as though you are looking down at women. (Again how it's meant ?) Straight up Ok this is what it means to me. Women have been treated like shit, nothing worth an opinion, to stupid for anything to be told to men, no rights just abeyance. For centuries, some countries still the same. Things have changed and not that long ago, women and equal rights. It has been a tough time and cruel, so the pain and anger and fear and liberation and much more runs with the blood and within the spirit of these people women. Along with man (the male), adjusting to the complete acceptance for the woman his equal all but the physics of gender. It's not over for the woman just yet. Once if a woman was found by a decent man and looked after loved very lucky. Still knowing the women who were not, would burn a lucky lady. So a gentleman had some meaning, it has been abused and commercialised. Losing it's meanings. To be perfectly honest with everyone straight to and no one better or less. I believe, if women had even the rights they have today. The Aboriginal people would not be in the same boat. So we all have something that is painful for how some are treated. Without the woman straight beside and eye to eye with the man, allso what the "MAN" has taken for the power and greed. Men can't control the nature of people alone, They (The men) Fucked it up. We need our women before we can be great. Women are smarter and smarts there are many, but women don't take from people, they nurture and care and tougher than any tough bloke iv'e ever met, "they" (the toughest) agree anyway. When it comes to the throws of seeing things through for that care. Birth just straight on the chin like nothing, but that keeps going and going baby ,child,kid,teenager,and then nana great nana. Women don't buckle to that and they will do all that in shackles and chains. And men go and beat them up and rape them and more, they still get up and stick to it. I am nothing special, but I know women are, and I know that man and women lived beside each other for over fifty thousand years together. It's in my blood and my spirit to know and feel this. So all jokes aside. Be a gentleman and look after these ladies because not only are they equal if for the "privilege" I reckon.(just me) They are special to be what might just stop the damage man is heading towards. And to have a lady in love with a man his equal and his friend. A bloke does not know what sex can be when it is given from the lady to her equal. Sex and smarts both have many to them. A man and woman can be best friends and a bond that everything is alright if both put the heads together. And you can feel part of something. (What it is all about) I know Tara trusts me and that I would never hurt her. I can say anything at all and she knows there is some reason. Not something against her. For her or something, the banter and some truths too. You only need to respect women, don't have to be a fucken angel to mostly everything else. Because they are not. Hope this helps with your question OP (longer way for getting to things, got to find all them first to make any sense) shall move on now. good topic So meeka why if a man can be a dirty fucker, why can't a woman be one then. Don't need to smoke something to work that out.? Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sexy_swede' And no, don't think I will be sharing my thoughts with a crazy woman like yourself. Have a nice life, now I am hoping I do not have to waste my time on reply to such stupid statements ever again!! I don't know what kind of "girls" you've hung out with, but they appear to have made you rather jaded. Shame. And with that name calling I think you've just shown everyone what a pleasant young man you really are.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mesmerised' And with that name calling I think you've just shown everyone what a pleasant young man you really are. Very generous of you Mesmerised!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I do love reading a great bitter ranting lol ;-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
you are simply one of those people whom can not accept other peoples believes and thoughts without having a winge.It's my own belives and what you technically don't matter a single bit except giving yourself from my point of view immature exposure on this site. Now let us all think about and recognise how such an intelligent and lovely "lady" you are, my guess is you would be no where in this world with out a mans guidance. Enjoy!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Just...... wow.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Just...... wow. My thoughts exactly!!
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On_Safari
12 years ago
.....shakes head.......(sigh)
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mesmerised' Quoting 'sexy_swede' And no, don't think I will be sharing my thoughts with a crazy woman like yourself. Have a nice life, now I am hoping I do not have to waste my time on reply to such stupid statements ever again!! I don't know what kind of "girls" you've hung out with, but they appear to have made you rather jaded. Shame. And with that name calling I think you've just shown everyone what a pleasant young man you really are. Sensitive little petal isn't he.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Here's a clipping from your profile:- "Swedish lover boy for you... Just on here to find people to enjoy life and catch up for some good times. Very easy going and laid back. " .................... Before you answer anything. Just ask yourself this:- How have my responses shown what my profile claims??? Hmmmmm??? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Now where did he spit that dummy? It really should be sterilised. I've seen what people do to the carpet around here ...
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RHP User
12 years ago
Please keep the entertainment cumming Although my money is on the ladies on this one, pmsl
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RHP User
12 years ago
Lighten up dude. What the sandpit (aka RHP forums where we like to play nice and share our toys and where the sulky kids throw sand at the nice kids) is telling you here is just that you seem to be dating the wrong type of women. Instead of it getting you upset that you've been paying for everything, adjust your approach to one that makes it clear that you like to share the costs of a date. The prissy little tight arses will depart quickly, but the real women (that 0.001% that Meeka and many of us habitate) will stick around because it is you and not what you can give us that matters. You will now however be in very different territory. Just remember, it's your personality and not your wallet that will get you into our knickers, just remember that. So far it's not really working for ya ... Hope this helps.
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Mado... you must smoke some good shit. That's all I a can say. something to do with never needing to deal with addiction, nothing addictive. And I just learned the "Take" there was no word for it, no one would take things away from others. they shared but no ownership. Easy to take that for granted. but the fuzzy thing was CravingTouch getting into my mind. She was telling me things that took a while to come to thoughts, but she did make some things very clear to understand and feel to them. Sometimes you have to learn by feelings that do travel to others thoughts. Just got to remember to listen to them when they arrive, otherwise the will not be felt and just a few more wandering noises wandering aimlessly inside your head. Until one day they are listened to. then it's the old I thought I knew something about that if only I did back then it could..... Thanks Craving Touch, you did make it past my ignorance. And I agree to those feelings they hurt. And some a gentleman has no place to be to them. No one does.
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's a funny one. I've only had one woman expect me to pay for her (she went ahead and ordered the most expensive thing on the menu too), and she expected to come home with me, but I sent her on her way. On another forum elsewhere on the net a bunch of women were saying men should pay because we get the pleasure of their company. And here's where I take issue. Are the women not getting the pleasure of our company too? Isn't that the point? If you're paying for someone's company, well... that's not a date, that's a business arrangement with a lady of negotiable virtue. That said, OP is booking hotel rooms, definitely an expectation of sex. Maybe that's what has been worked out before meeting up, and as someone else pointed out, the woman in question probably won't be able to explain the hotel charge on the credit card to her husband.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sexy_swede' my guess is you would be no where in this world with out a mans guidance. Enjoy! If my dad hadn't guided it into my mum, I wouldn't be anywhere.
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RHP User
12 years ago
For some reason I always see you around a camp fire with your laptop, smoking and waxing lyrical on the forums like you are writing a song or poetry. To me you always come across as a hopeful romantic. Peace man.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have lovers over at my place regularly and always make sure there are plenty of snacks, breakfast foods, soft drinks, alcoholic beverages, etc. as well as condoms, lube and all other necessities. . Even with guests generously bringing gifts, hosting isn't always that cheap.
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' For some reason I always see you around a camp fire with your laptop, smoking and waxing lyrical on the forums like you are writing a song or poetry. To me you always come across as a hopeful romantic. Peace man. Got an Apple desk top. I killed a PC in one night surfing porn and somehow managed to cultivate more viruses than Physically possible for the area of containment to the computer, so they must have been in the power cord and my mouse the screen to. Fried beyond recognition. Cheap shit, Nothing gets into my apple, but plenty gets out. Meeka Other than an acquired and concentrated fixation to your lovely arse. We see only a blur to the jet stream of a heat seeking missile accurate as time itself, reliable as fuck is to swearing. Punctually on par with DG looking for Mesmerised and not ashamed is he for that impulse, can't blame him, he is just attuned with focus and very quick to add comment for reason to be there. The argument is just a time positive bonus for still being there, and in reserve he can Quote some of her tendered words and smile. Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Punctually on par with DG looking for Mesmerised and not ashamed is he for that impulse, can't blame him, he is just attuned with focus and very quick to add comment for reason to be there. The argument is just a time positive bonus for still being there, and in reserve he can Quote some of her tendered words and smile. Mado Tara xx I just spat out my tea.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mesmerised a lady always swallows.
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Aren't you all waxing quite lyrical this morning.....lol it's ok Mes, I'll go get a tea towel ;-D
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RHP User
12 years ago
Thanks for thinking of me ;-)..... sorry for the delay, I've been reading some rather funny "fan mail" lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'The_Stranger76' On another forum elsewhere on the net a bunch of women were saying men should pay because we get the pleasure of their company. And here's where I take issue. Are the women not getting the pleasure of our company too? Isn't that the point? I take issue with that as well, and have no respect for attitudes like that. Stranger, were these women of all ages?
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RHP User
12 years ago
We completely agree with each other (except for your first three words). I understand what it means to be a Lady and that Gentleman exist, absolutely, hallelujah for that! I just reframed it a little. How do you define a Gentleman? What separates a Gentleman from a not-so-gentle man? Is it not how he behaves? This behaviour can be described as manners. What makes a Gentleman is how he treats women, how he behaves, his manners. The reason I think the focus should be on manners rather than the title of "Gentleman" is because we live in a changing world and Gentleman has many incarnations. For some people it means a man who will protect and provide for a woman, for some it means a man who will speak and think for them too, under the noble agenda of protection, mind you. These may not be appropriate in today's world where women have gained so much more respect as individuals and feel more need to think, speak, act, provide and protect themselves. Today's Gentleman is a very different man to Bonny Rait and Aretha Franklin's Gentlemen, I can promise you that.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I gotta say, no one ever let's someone else have their own opinion on this site (especially this thread)now in regards to the previous posts I can not prevent myself from standing back and observing the amusing ways espcially women react, I mean come on don't freak out and start criticising the person just for his or hers own opinion. All you do is make assumptions and keep saying things that are not very clear, simply because you don't have any valid information to talk about. Stop living in some dream world, this is reality and the majority of men pay for the majority of things, now sure there may be some cases where you have paid or offered to pay but don't try to twist reality in this case just to make yourselves look or feel a bit better. Over and out!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'sexy_swede' And no, don't think I will be sharing my thoughts with a crazy woman like yourself. Have a nice life, now I am hoping I do not have to waste my time on reply to such stupid statements ever again!! Quoting 'sexy_swede'I gotta say, no one ever let's someone else have their own opinion on this site (especially this thread) Your opinions are as valid as everybody else's, but there is a difference between doing expressing your thoughts in a respectful way and calling others names (with smelly lady parts to boot) and calling other members' comments stupid. . The way you're presenting yourself does not seem to working for you, seeing the responses you're getting. Though maybe you like stirring things up or believe any attention is good attention, I won't presume I know, as I don't know you. However, I feel that if you wrote things in a friendlier manner you would be listened to a lot more, and I believe we all want to be heard in the end. . I'm merely giving well-meant advice here, not telling you what to do. Peace.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Expressing, not doing expressing.
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RHP User
12 years ago
But just because someone disagrees with your opinion, doesn't make it personal. Your ego makes it personal, not the words of others. I can't be any clearer than that. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
:p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting '181browny' Sorry, but I have to defend the ladies here. At the Sydney get together earlier in the year, not one of the ladies asked anyone to pay for their drinks. There was one of the ladies who even bought a round of shots for everyone. No hotel rooms paid for, no meals, not even a gift. Oh and it was the ladies who bought the red balloons and did all the organising. It hurts to admit it, but the ladies on RHP aren't the cheapskates that some of us men are. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
wow your copping it lol mate go dutch and let them know beforehand it gets hard these days because one womans gallant man is anothers sexist chauvinist pig you ll never win and better to set your own ground rules
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madotara69
12 years ago
No one treated as lesser than another What equates to a disrespectful women are they to be treated as respectable women, just a woman or childish. Give it up please you are wrong and stubborn uneducated and persistent. Don't think any thing less of you but for your disrespect. I know I haven't covered everything but respect does. it defines every decision to consciously make. It rules every subconscious meaning to form decisions. I don't care for others rules for meanings, I don't care for what they do. As long it is involving then respect needs to be rolling with it and them and all. Respectfully I am done here this is not something I would argue or accept as to negotiate. I will agree to disagree to it. A little frustrated, though composed. Bonny Rait's gentlemen are still alive and here in this days time respected as elders, and they have earned the right to be respected. It is not the kiddies today. It is a promise you don't respectfully have the right to make. and you never had it to offer. Please pay your respect to the gentlemen of the day, the person within the word it's self Gentle Man or men age or creed. and as equal to the woman (Quoted in modified theme) I just want to be thought of for the convincingly touching bit Ladies and Gentlemen, enter and welcomed to the internationally acclaimed royal "hot pie the RHP," please enjoy, but do not touch the women, (The old Oxford Cinema) unless they convince you too. Mado woman!!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Met a rather interesting Dutch woman in the real world several weeks ago. She's trouble..... but all the right kinds lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Wasn't me.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am Swedish, and clearly you are jealous, my noble roots are far more valuable than your peasant background you poor farmer. Sir loose a lot I understand you like to stir the pot but I think sometimes you should just unplug your keyboard and keep listening to what your mother have to tell you! Quoting 'Stir_it_alot' :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Oh sorry if my words made you cry but sometimes I just have to put the gloves on in order to get my point across. Your cranium is just as solid as Titanium, nothing gets through! What you need to learn to respect is also the way people express themselves. The responses I am getting, lol and take a look at the responses you are getting (from me in this case) ain't it amazing?! However I think if you wrote things and started to respect the way people express themselves in this world you would actually gain some points from me and everybody else. Quoting 'Mesmerised' Quoting 'sexy_swede' And no, don't think I will be sharing my thoughts with a crazy woman like yourself. Have a nice life, now I am hoping I do not have to waste my time on reply to such stupid statements ever again!! Quoting 'sexy_swede'I gotta say, no one ever let's someone else have their own opinion on this site (especially this thread) Your opinions are as valid as everybody else's, but there is a difference between doing expressing your thoughts in a respectful way and calling others names (with smelly lady parts to boot) and calling other members' comments stupid. . The way you're presenting yourself does not seem to working for you, seeing the responses you're getting. Though maybe you like stirring things up or believe any attention is good attention, I won't presume I know, as I don't know you. However, I feel that if you wrote things in a friendlier manner you would be listened to a lot more, and I believe we all want to be heard in the end. . I'm merely giving well-meant advice here, not telling you what to do. Peace.
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madotara69
12 years ago
are cheeky fuckers, but talk nice beautifully, it is said. Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
"You get this question right, you're a quarter of a million dollars richer!" So, this Swedish man... . A. Tries to say the right thing, but struggles with the language barrier B. Is missing a few faculties, preventing him from interacting with people properly C. Knows what he's doing and loves the attention he is getting from riling people up D. Is still learning the "Rules" of the forums as a newbie . Hmmm. I'm pretty sure it's C. Yes, C. . "Final answer?" . Absolutely. Lock in C please, Eddie. . "C is locked in. We'll find out the answer after the break!" .
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RHP User
12 years ago
Eddie Mcguire can pay me any day.
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RHP User
12 years ago
That really was my final answer, Swede, bored now. . So to quote another game show: "You ARE the weakest link, goodbye!" .
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RHP User
12 years ago
Contemplates taking the shovel away from swede .... and giving him an excavator.... it'll be faster. lol
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Give it up please you are wrong and stubborn uneducated and persistent. Don't think any thing less of you but for your disrespect. I am a little bit flabbergasted to be called the above. This is not how you make friends. When you disagree with someone, stay on topic, don't make it a personal attack, that's when shit gets ugly. Having said that, uneducated has to be one of the most hilarious things anyone's ever called me! LOL Thank you for the chuckle, no thank you for the insults.
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RHP User
12 years ago
DG, you beat me to it, pmsl
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Playful2looking
12 years ago
I am not going to comment on the topic other then. why if a man criticises some women its classed as women bashing. Men cop flack on here all the time. I am not talking about sexist pigs that have no manners they deserve an earful. I am talking about guys just expressing what they feel about a particular subject. Its a big sand pit we are told to man up.So common girls toughen up, not all women are perfect some can be less then perfect.
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On_Safari
12 years ago
As one who espouses that all is fair in love and war your most recent comment about women essentially "bludging" off men have offended me very much Swede. Please apologise as tour behaviour may be forgiven die to youthful ignorance and inexperience but your ensuing piffle is now just plain arrogant, condescending and disrespectful. You are lucky I don't know your Mother for I'm certain she'd be equally non-plussed at her son's poor spoilt behaviour ~ an unimpressed Mother. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Absolutely, I agree. But it's the assertion that ALL women are like that which grates. Not all women are the same, just as not all men are immature or sexist pigs. ;-)
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madotara69
12 years ago
Lots of things can come out for conversations, heated with passions can bring out the best in people. I believe it does any way so it is an opinion and as to Indi sparking that with CravingTouch sparking communication and to mine to respect for being straight up and to others, then personal feelings can be owned and felt to better know them, all being equal we can see to the nature of what it is the purpose and identity of it all. Thoughts to all the description layed out with the Questions to what the OP has offered to this topic and the conversations to all those pionts to his views for how expensive and time consuming it can be and possibly is becoming a reality to just how easy it is not, for the chance with getting a root, just because a good fuck or even a meaningless fuck breaks up the lonely feelings that can develop with ones self for passions fading to wanking. Personally I am a happy wanker, I do enjoy rubbing one out as often as an urge may persuade to having a bit of a look around to the privacy or spectacle, Tara can be quite passionate for the care I take to the beauty of masturbation, we share to that. And that's a thing. we are two mates, certainly not washed up bogan's but respectful to the loyalty to it married. (to the thoughts) To the thoughts and for innocence to a scenario. No guilt to it for my sakes to Tara's sakes. Will say to the interests of a lover rather not the fighter. CravingTouch if we had this conversation at dinner, we would split the bill and part company, not for being eye to eye never the the less feelings mutual and to the differences no effect so to speak. It doesn't always work out, and my offer to cover the cost of the chance to it all was in respect for that you would not feel I was a cheap inconsiderate wanker, but handsome, your soul would be a little pissed of with that stubborn thing again. And your spirit wouldn't be doing you any favours for a while either. But you owned that choice as did I. Or Eye to Eye, and something no one seems to have bought any attention to. The quality of the meal was a fucking rip off the cheap greedy bastard that couldn't boil water and not burn it, can have his respect shoved up his arse , for the anxiety bought upon two people and it's frustrations to find it imposable to enjoy a moment, let alone whisper some fucking lovely romantic notions for the chance. We could have (other scenario). left his bill on his fancy table, done a runner and gone to wherever was the closest and fuck each other stupid. All because we could not care worth a thought to any rules, other than what we found from being eye to eye and spoke to it. No insults, just expressing that respectfully, no one has the right to tell a gentleman how to be one. He is or he isn't. You can judge that to each as an individual, just the same you would expect as a woman. What character of a woman you would be is your nature to express. A defined woman and gentle in nature, a gentleman calls a lady a respectable lady at that, just a term to some meanings. The end Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have found that men I have gone out with in their 40's & 50's are uncomfortable with allowing a woman to pay on the first few dates. So I am very gracious now and don't say anything when they pay on our first date, however if it is an ongoing thing I insist that we take turns in paying. I don't think it's fair otherwise. Well unless he is a bazillionaire :P
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madotara69
12 years ago
Still doesn't show that you would expect a man to pay for the evening. I think it is more in mens thoughts to expecting that and fair that women would be accustomed to it. Maybe believing a man will offer the courtesy. I don't see it as a rite sort of issue, women have way more significant matters with that side of things. If a man invites a barrister to dinner, the barrister expects the man to pay for the meal. And the man then has something to lose if he refuses to pay.
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RHP User
12 years ago
This should be easy, Women protested and demanded total equality and equal opportunity for all women. with the government giving 100% support and approval not because they were concerned about how our stay at home women were feeling left to do a job probably the highest of importance and critical to human survival, the job of raising children..oh no! It was a chance for the greedy elite to have double! the tax payers in the work force! So little to almost no big budget consequential investigation or defensive campaign ever took place. It's liken to wanting to be in the Army for it's public patriotic pride, loyal mateship and values. Only to be seen to be a soldier in all its honour and privilege. But also expecting to pull the citizens right to turn down a request to work all night or sleep in the rain for days repeatedly eating the same processed rations. And to feel some injustice when told those past rights were upgraded and don't apply in modern equilibrium society. So you protest with a batter of the eyelashes and you get a social pardon from the deadly battle your unit selflessly fights. As always much love,
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RHP User
12 years ago
I really appreciate your time to comment about my oppinions, very nice of you or though what you need to understand is that things won't stay the same as the way things were when you were a young girl, things change in society and so does peoples opinion along with the changes that occure. I understand that you may be frightened by my opinion and that it may be something that you have never experience or been exposed to in the past but you need to grow up and be able to respect peoples own opinions and the way the express themselves in this amazing world. By the way I am very happy that my mother are alot more intelligent than you will ever be, and she would be very proud of my bravery of thinking freely and standing up against mindless creatures like yourself. Quoting 'I_N_D_A_G_I_N_E' As one who espouses that all is fair in love and war your most recent comment about women essentially "bludging" off men have offended me very much Swede. Please apologise as tour behaviour may be forgiven die to youthful ignorance and inexperience but your ensuing piffle is now just plain arrogant, condescending and disrespectful. You are lucky I don't know your Mother for I'm certain she'd be equally non-plussed at her son's poor spoilt behaviour ~ an unimpressed Mother. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I offer to pay sometimes, coz I don't want to feel obligated to sleep with the guy. Then I have this internal conflict of telling myself that I shouldn't feel obligated to have sex with the guy coz he pays for an outing, and the flip side of "but I don't know what he thinks about it if he pays". I think it is gentlemanly and a show of good manners and attitude to want to take care of your potential mate - this has nothing to do with women and men being equals. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'm very complimented by your concentration on my comments. But may I ask.... Does this mean I'm off the Christmas card list this year?? :/ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
You Dutch goddess you...... Bahahahaha C lock it in Eddie bahaha magic!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'Stir_it_alot' I'm very complimented by your concentration on my comments. But may I ask.... Does this mean I'm off the Christmas card list this year?? :/ - Posted from rhpmobile he doesn't want to take you out for dinner, maybe you are not feisty enough, or so pretty. I mean personally Stir, I just don't see you as sexy as Indi, not that you aren't a sexy bloke, just she is more stimulating and different curves. hmmmm xx Please don't take it personally Stir, I would take you out to lunch. Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
So what you're saying is, that's it's not that I'm a bad person, but my hairy nipples aren't fun anymore??? :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
12 years ago
getting a bit personal Stir
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RHP User
12 years ago
Only self deprecating humour my friend :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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